The United States has put forward a ceasefire proposal aimed at halting hostilities in Ukraine, with Kyiv agreeing to the terms, according to US Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
Speaking from Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, after discussions with a Ukrainian delegation, Rubio stated that Ukraine had accepted the offer to enter into a ceasefire and negotiations aimed at achieving a lasting resolution.
A joint statement from the US and Ukraine confirmed that Kyiv is ready to implement an immediate, interim 30-day ceasefire, with the possibility of extending it if both sides agree. However, the agreement remains contingent on Russia’s acceptance and implementation, leaving uncertainty over whether Moscow will engage with the proposal.
The statement from the US State Department reads: “Ukraine says it is ready to accept the US proposal to enact an immediate, interim 30-day ceasefire after today’s peace talks. The proposed ceasefire will be extendable by mutual agreement of both parties and is subject to acceptance and implementation by Russia.”
In a related move, Washington announced that it would immediately lift restrictions on intelligence sharing and resume security assistance to Ukraine, signaling a renewed commitment to supporting Kyiv.
The decision follows recent tensions over the scale and nature of US aid, with Ukrainian officials pressing for stronger backing amid ongoing Russian offensives.
The proposal marks a significant diplomatic push, but its success hinges on Moscow’s willingness to negotiate—something it has been reluctant to do without major concessions.
Not a chance in hell the orcs will agree to this,they have already payed out their conditions for a ceasefire(surrender)
Then we will see numptys reaction to being told NO by pootin!
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I don’t have words. This is either a major gambit by the orange child that he believes might work, or theatre.
His words on Putin and Russian involvement left me incredulous and I still feel that we should remove ourselves from that self preening pr!ck’s orbit and begin creating a Defence organisation that covers all the bases in a small, agile but scalable way that we no longer need US enablers and bite the bullet and think about asking US forces to leave the UK in the middle future as our own forces take on those roles.
Defence buys? Not US and agree with other NATO MS to adopt the same approach. Sod them, let the US atrophy on the lack of sales and friends, except for Israel. Israel will always pay an honest dollar for American equipment… won’t it?
And of course, Israel will repay multi-annual $5Bn in finance and equipment it has received, won’t it?
Imagine if Israel had to pay all the money back the US had given it since 1975 for nothing in return. That might actually be enough to make America great again 😀
In 2006, England made the final payment on multi-billion dollar loan to the US they took out in 1945 to refinance your country. Obtaining mineral rights to compensate for the couple hundred billion the US has spent so far seems fair.
Like the United States, Israel fought for their freedom. And, thanks to the United States, Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East.
The US has provided billions in aid to other countries, but for some reason, Israel is often singled out as not worthy of US support.
It was the UK that made the final payment in 2006 for the loan. England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland fought during the war and paid the loan repayments together. Personally I think asking for some form of repayment prior to the end of a conflict is proving that you back the other side, if that is the case just come out and say it, Trump is not looking for peace in Ukraine, he is simply trying to benefit from an unjustified war which is scandalous.
Not sure what country your from bro but it’s clearly one that don’t spend a lot on education or much understanding of geography so I’m guessing it’s somewhere south of Ontario.
Just so you realise England is not a country and can’t borrow money and it hasn’t fought a war since 1707.
Iraq are Lebanon are also middle eastern democracies.
I believe the US refused to pay France back for its loans after its war of independence leading to the French revolution.
Here we go again, the knee jerk anti-American has hit himself so many times in the chin that his addled brain doesn’t know that the US paid back to France all of the loans it received during the Revolutionary War – a war that, thankfully separated America from a bunch of whingers until that incompetent racist Woodrow Wilson rescued them from the Hun – biggest foreign policy mistake in US history.
I didn’t say you didn’t pay it back my uneducated friend from north of the Gulf of Mexico. I said you refused to pay it back. You reneged after the fall of the monarchy claiming you didn’t owe the money to the subsequent French government. You previously defaulted in 1785 and 1787 which in no small part caused the French Revolution.
Eventually a banker named James Swan bought up the debt and the US paid it off via a secret deal at a massively reduced rate.
Always happy to help educate you about your own countries history mate.
Feel free to ask any other questions you may have.
Perhaps the Louis XVI should have asked for some minerals instead 😀
You didn’t rescue us from the Hun, we would have won the war in the long game, Germany was blockaded by Britain and DDay wasn’t needed, we had enough bombers so you wasn’t needed. We had the option to simply let the Soviets steamroll right over them and at the last minute in 1945 invade France to protect it from the Soviets. It would have meant a bigger Soviet Union after WW2 but we would not have lost. Your war was with Japan so stop puffing yourself up.
Indeed many here alienated by the media are ok to destroy NATO over not paying their bills and Ukraine .
Trump should have said that wanted to deploy “Cruise and Pershing of XXI Century” in W.Europe, then wait for W. Europe reminded that nukes continue to exist to run to Washington begging for peace, any peace.
Isn’t funny how the tags “hawks” and “doves” disappeared from the media because building that narrative today is not convenient?
The U.S. entered the war because the German empire was blatant in its support of Mexico in invading the US in 1917…infact it positively encouraged its ally to attack the U.S. the U.S. has been an ally in WW1 and WW2 after it was clear that another belligerent power was attacking it…not for any charity..your understanding of the geopolitical drivers of your nation is soundly lacking. No infact nations don’t generally do anything that is not for its own benefit and never will. They can make mistakes..for instance probably the biggest mistake the UK ever made was supporting France in WW1 as that war would have inevitably ended with a minor spat between France, Russia and Germany as the central powers would not have felt boxed in without the Uk being involved and there would have been a minor rebalancing..Russia would not have fallen to communism and Germany would have fallen to fascism…the U.S. involvement in Europe has only ever been to contain a power that threatened the U.S. world position..
Also we spend 60-70 billion dollars supporting you on your war on terror. We put 290,000 personal through Afghanistan and Iraq..with 10,000 injuries and 700 dead…. Was supporting our ally the biggest foreign policy mistake we ever made ?
“You didn’t rescue us from the Hun, we would have won the war in the long game, Germany was blockaded by Britain and DDay wasn’t needed, we had enough bombers so you wasn’t needed. We had the option to simply let the Soviets steamroll right over them and at the last minute in 1945 invade France to protect it from the Soviets. It would have meant a bigger Soviet Union after WW2 but we would not have lost. Your war was with Japan so stop puffing yourself up.”
You really have no clue. I will not even talk about UK and the nonsense blockade that did not exist.
Soviet armies moved on US rubber, US explosives and US communications.
Proof that education does not exist in the US…
The US has spent more like $30-40 billion than a couple of hundred; the books are cooked.
The cost charged is, aiui, the price Raytheon etc charge to the US Government for the new kit to replace the obsolete – but still useful – kit sent to Ukraine, which is depreciated to a value of almost nothing. In some cases sending it saves the cost of dismantling or destruction or defusing.
The out of pocket cost covers direct expenses such as transport, admin, refurbishment and the rest.
But the voices in Mr Trump’s head still claim $350bn or whatever, so that is the MAGA Mushroom chorus.
And when will the US be repaying all the countries that came to its assistance after 9/11 and in its war in Afghanistan?
That’s fake news bro, no NATO countries have ever helped the USA and America has never been to war in Afghanistan 😀
It’s actually getting quite scary how people with so much access to information and so many guns can be so easily manipulated by really basic bitch Propaganda techniques from the 1930’s.
Collins, The US gifted kit some of the time and 3 years later asks for repayments. That is not right.
There is no way the UK could afford to do that
The big guns might stop. However I think the war will just take on an insurgency campaign, Cargo 200 Russian troops will be going home for a long time yet.
If they agree then it means Ukrainians stay in Kursk and reconsolidate. Wonder what Putin will do
They’d have to hurry up and get the Russians to sign it if they wanted to try and keep hold of any of Kursk. This last month hasn’t been kind on that front.
Too much too soon. Russia will now draw back and up the ante.
The military industrial complex is going to be pissed
Mmmm. The US have significant additional negotiating levers Trump could pull to influence Russian decision making on territory and peacekeeping troops: he could take the governors off MLRS, ATACMS, Patriot, later model F-16s and missiles, remove trade sanctions. Notwithstanding what Lavrov says I think Putin will do a peace deal if Trump threatens to arm Ukraine to the teeth.
Reasonably inherently obvious that Mad Vlad and The Donald have decided a plan to partirion Ukraine, including multi-trillion dollar rare earth deposits for the occupying powers. If Mad Vlad is sufficiently insane to renege on the deal, there is absolutely no governor on The Donald’s possible response/conduct. It is w/in the realm of possibility that the US initiates the use of (tactical) nukes for the first time since Nagasaki, as a demonstrable measure of annoyance/petulance w/ RU conduct. 🤔😳😱
Has the Anderson shelter design been updated/upgraded? It could become a near-term business opportunity. 🤔😉
… partition…🙄
…partition…🙄
F/USAF, equally …. Mad Vlad is mad enough to release TNW against Ukrainian targets.
The Russians will agree to this then do what they always do just ignore it and carry on.
The orange one will try and ignore Russian glide bombs as fake news.
But hopefully the limited US support will continue and the Americans will get out of Ukraine and Europes way.
I don’t think anyone particular needs or wants the US hanging around now with the exclusion of a bit of intelligence sharing.
Look at what Ukraine can do to Moscow now imagine what they can do in 3 years.
I doubt anyone in Berlin in 1940 thought the RAF would be leavening Hamburg in three years,
Leavening or leveling Hamburg? Had never before contemplated preparations for baking as a metaphor for a strategic bombing campaign. Points awarded for originality. 🤔😳😉😁
Once a year we must eat unleavened hamburgers in commemoration.
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We know that if Russia agrees to a ceasefire it will only be used to re-group and reinforce the front-line before trying again, whether it’s 30 days, 3 months or 3 years, war will come again so long as Ukraine lacks adequate deterrence, such as NATO membership.
Cease fire does not mean sanctions relief for Russia, stop the shooting, keep the knife to Russia’s throat while keeping the aid flowing to Ukraine while it continues to build its industry and win the peace. Once Vlad is dead the rich Russians who miss Monaco and their mistress in Switzerland move back into the fold and hand back everything other than Crimea.
Like the Donald in Canada vlad is the only one that actually wants Ukraine and he can’t live for ever.
It depends who takes over after Putin – some are even more extreme than him. And for Ukraine to win the peace they will need a lot of western support, which I’m not convinced they will get. Russia outguns Ukraine economically and population size and Ukraine has more re-building to do. So I find long-term peace without NATO membership unlikely.
And the russians are son idiots that they will agree, yes, of course, 1 month so that Ukraine can rearm, fortify itself and have a breather, and the Russians, as we already know they are idiots, will accept it, of course they will.
Russians are certainly idiots 🤔
In the First World War the British had lions lead by donkeys
Today the Russians just have donkeys
But people tell me we need America to keep us safe from the donkeys
And apparently there is some bill we have not paid
I also here people are eating the cats and dogs but not sure how this is related
I can’t help but feel a ceasefire works more in Russias favour, they are struggling right now right across the whole front, you wouldn’t know it from watching the likes of the BBC though. They would welcome time to regroup and press gang more fresh meat.
I can’t see any long term Russian agreement coming that is remotely acceptable to Ukraine so what benefit does a ceasefire bring Ukraine? Unless Europe intend to use it to pour in arms and supplies unmolested.
I agree. I think the Ukrainians calculated the resumption of intelligence sharing and aid shipments from the US plus time to regroup itself was worth it for 30 days. But I suspect Russia will win the peace, so another war will begin if it’s just left as a long-term ceasefire.
Ukraine is rapidly building up its own industry, building its own s300 for example.
The UK Government, the French and the Germans have all been involved in this supporting the Ukrainians, and it looks like something of a tour de force.
The statement pushes Putin to a place where he has to respond, and as a ceasefire accepted by Ukraine has reopened intelligence and weapons delivery support. I assume that the Ukes are now pulling stuff in at very high tempo from the Polish base where Trump made it all stop just in case in gets turned off again.
It’s a good step towards having the agenda written in Europe, not by Putin-Trump, which is what is needed. The next thing is to be sure that Europe can follow through.
This is a statement report by Alex Wickham:
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The UK was heavily involved behind the scenes ahead of the US-Ukraine talks in Saudi, British sources say.
Jonathan Powell worked with Mike Waltz and French and German counterparts on a plan for a truce to begin a peace process.
At the weekend Powell met Zelenskiy and Yermak in Kyiv. They produced a written proposal for a ‘staged process’ to bridge the gap with the US.
It’s based on:
– a ceasefire
– confidence building measures including for an exchange of POWs
– the release of detained civilians
– the return of children
– then negotiations to bring about a just and lasting peace.
A detailed text was agreed with both US and Ukrainian sides.
Rubio will debrief G7 foreign ministers in Canada. Powell will be in DC on Friday with European colleagues to meet Waltz. Starmer will convene European and Nato leaders on Saturday.
The ball is now in Russia’s court, a UK source says. “Now Ukraine has made a concrete offer of a ceasefire the ball is firmly in the Russian court. Will they reciprocate and stop the fighting to allow serious negotiations on a lasting peace or will they continue to slaughter innocent civilians?”
statement on this was very informative, plus that this version of the “minerals deal” is the outline-to-be-clarified rather than the $500 bn Al Capone one Trump started with.
So your telling me that British diplomats crafted a narrative to make Russians look bad and US politicans do the right thing for the democratic liberal order while getting past their own bluster and bullshit all while staying quiet and letting those same American politicans claim credit for saving the world.
I think this happened before 🤔
As long as it works 😀
The tanker incident in the North Sea is now starting to have a bit of a smell to it, the tanker that was hit was chartered by the U.S. military carrying aviation fuel and it now turns out the captain of the of the other vessel who has been arrested for gross negligence and manslaughter was a Russian national…smells like a possible state sponsored sub kinetic action to me….just as the U.S. government puts a bit of pressure on Russia.
The initiative is essentially “dead on arrival.” While the proposal has garnered acceptance from Kyiv and outlines an ambitious diplomatic effort, several fundamental issues render its potential success highly unlikely.
First and foremost, the crux of this proposal lies in the need for Russia’s acceptance and implementation. The article suggests that Moscow’s cooperation remains uncertain, highlighting a significant obstacle. Historically, Russia has demonstrated a lack of genuine willingness to negotiate unless substantial concessions are on the table, and indications suggest that the current U.S. offer does not meet those expectations. The Kremlin’s previous negotiations have been characterised by a demand for territory and political leverage, and a thirty-day ceasefire, even if extended, is unlikely to satisfy its strategic objectives. Without any assurance that Russia will engage meaningfully, the U.S. proposal appears more symbolic than practical.
Moreover, the limited duration of the proposed ceasefire raises questions about its efficacy. A thirty-day halt in hostilities, while commendable in intention, does little to address the root causes of the conflict or lay the groundwork for a meaningful peace agreement. Ceasefires without clear plans for long-term resolution frequently devolve into temporary pauses in violence, only to be followed by resumption of hostilities. This cycle can exacerbate mistrust among the parties involved, further complicating diplomatic efforts. If neither side perceives a viable path toward de-escalation and solutions beyond the immediate timeline, they might view the ceasefire as merely a tactical maneuver rather than a genuine step toward lasting peace.
Additionally, the proposal’s timing, following a period of intensified Russian aggression, reveals a lack of strategic foresight. The urgency of the conflict means that any ceasefire proposition must be coupled with substantial and attractive incentives for the aggressor. The U.S. lifting restrictions on intelligence sharing and resuming security assistance to Ukraine, while a positive step for Kyiv, fails to fundamentally alter the power dynamics at play. Without adequate leverage over Russia to compel compliance, the United States may, inadvertently, signal a lack of seriousness regarding its conflict resolution strategy.
Finally, the geopolitical landscape offers little encouragement for optimistic outcomes. The broader context—characterised by entrenched positions, shifting alliances, and mutual suspicions—reinforces a cycle of conflict rather than cooperation. Moscow’s strategy of pressure and territorial ambitions complicates any U.S. proposal that does not align with their broader interests. Given this reality, without a robust diplomatic backdrop that includes direct engagement with Russia’s core demands, the ceasefire proposition risks being doomed from the outset.
While the U.S. ceasefire proposal represents a noteworthy diplomatic effort, its viability is severely compromised by Moscow’s likely rejection, the lack of a detailed framework for long-term peace, and an increasingly complicated geopolitical environment. Absent significant shifts in strategy and cooperation from all parties, this proposal, intended as a step towards resolution, is likely to falter before it can take meaningful flight.