Russian forces are running low on long-range air defence missiles the British Ministry of Defence has said.
According to the latest Defence Intelligence update on the situation in Ukraine – 1 October 2022.
“On 30 September 2022, Russian forces almost certainly struck a convoy south-east of the town of Zaporizhzhia. Local authorities report 25 civilians killed. The munition involved was likely a Russian long-range air defence missile being used in a ground attack role.
Russia’s stock of such missiles is highly likely limited and is a high-value resource designed to shoot down modern aircraft and incoming missiles, rather than for use against ground targets.
Its use in ground attack role has almost certainly been driven by overall munitions shortages, particularly longer-range precision missiles.
On the same day, President Putin signed annexation agreements for Zaporizhzhia and other parts of occupied Ukraine. Russia is expending strategically valuable military assets in attempts to achieve tactical advantage and in the process is killing civilians it now claims are its own citizens.”
Additionally, Russian troops have pulled out of the town of the strategic city of Lyman in eastern Ukraine “due to the risk to be encircled” and moved to “more advantageous frontiers”, Russia’s ministry of defence said via Telegram on Saturday.
“Ukraine forces encircled Russian forces in the eastern town earlier today where Russia’s forces at Lyman totalled about 5,000 to 5,500 soldiers. Ukrainian soldiers were later seen raising the nation’s flag before the entrance sign to the city.”
I’d recommend reading Putin’s speech yesterday announcing annexation. The guy was either high as a kite or he is loosing his mind. I don’t know if it’s a good thing or not but the expressions on the faces of some of those listening was interesting.
I also noticed the audience expressions. I think people are beginning to realise that Putin is not what they thought.
Fingers crossed.
Or perhaps exactly what most thought. Has been stated by associates in Russia that he didn’t know how to back down from his earliest years. Not framed as a compliment, as far as I’m aware. So, no doubt he’d invade & no doubt he’d use nucs – it’s all about him, not the greater good of Russia or anyone else. Removal down to exactly the disillusion illustrated from both your above, but I’m not counting on it. Thus there’s no alternative but for us to maintain current direction, distasteful as that is.
Rgs
Believe you are correct in your assessment.
Very happy to be proven wrong! but it is what it is. Always b*l*o*ks that nukes would remain off the table, defies human weapon history – ignoring that they were born in use during WW2, of course.
Hitler didn’t use gas in WW2 though he and the allies had stockpiles. Putin is totally unpredictable and the West keeps reacting to his every move instead of being proactive to foil his planning.
I would not read too much in to it, he is desperate and still trying to bluff his way out. Still a backward ****ing muppet ruling a nation of donkeys, only so much he can really do without getting his own country glassed. He is increasingly like North Korea but without the ammunition stock pile.
Excellent description! 🤔
You put it better than I could.
I think he will replenish ammo stocks from North Korea and China paid for with fuel oil, gas and food shipments. Which North Korea desperately need.
I trust you wrote the same thing when the US and NATO invaded Iraq under pretext, not to mention Libya,Afghanistan, ongoing blocade of little cuba…….and many more ?
At least he doesn’t need a teleprompter every time he speaks like someone else we know. lol
He’s in your head Dan. Let it go. The man is obviously suffering from a degenerative illness. He should be in a care home and in 2025 he will be. When I see him wandering around a stage looking totally lost and confused I feel pity for him. There but for the grace of god.
He has clearly lost his marbles. Early phase dementia or steroid rage I’d say. Paranoid, delusional and psychopathic. Although I think the ex little KGB guy was always a psychopath.
I think David was talking about Biden? I wish the leader of the Western world was younger, more vigorous, fully sharp mentally – and tough enough to really confront Putin.
I was.
I mean,. He won’t be bare Knuckle fighting him any time soon so his physical prowess is irrelevant
It is mental fitness and rationality of thought that I want in a leader, whether it be Putin or Biden.
Worth a bet that he will be gone soon; a well earned retirement present on his 70th birthday, from a grateful Russian people….. :wpds_wink:
Viewed the speech yesterday, David (you have to be in the mood, nausia pills to hand) which was delivered in front of both the Duma & Federation, evidently. Certainly very few in the audience appeared enamoured, including the installed governors of the four annexed Ukrainian Oblast, apparently.
Practically everyone still got up and clapped, though. One or two noted exceptions, but most clearly did not want to be seen as out of step. Currently seemed to sum up the politics in Russia, along the lines of, What can 600-odd of us do against one individual? If so, they’re going to have to figure that out pretty damn soon. There has to be some point to their existence beyond just feathering their nests.
Does a 5 year old write his speeches? AA
No its his wife that rights them.😆😅🤣😅😆
Think we should just start annexing bits of Orc land ourselves. Definitely some of those Siberian regions with gas that I’m sure would vote to join the UK in a heart beat. Now mad Vlad is rapidly running out of anything to fight with what’s to stop others doing to him what he is doing to Ukraine.
🤣😂😁🤔😳😱. Certainly would be fun while it lasted, doubt Mad Vlad would have the same attitude.
LOL. We should ask the Falkland Islands to annex them instead. That would confuse the Argies!
I didn’t see the Russians pulling out from Lyman. That’s a shame. Was hoping the Ukrainians had a few thousand troops trapped. I saw a couple of videos of Russian troops running from the town but didn’t realise they all withdrew.
Time will tell if all of them actually got out.
7 months most of the Russian troops have been deployed and winter is coming round. They must be getting pretty pissed off by now. Hopefully.
They did get out of Lyman, along a road that was mined with MLRS dropped AT mines and under constant drone coverage directing artillery and rocket strikes. Almost all where on foot as they couldn’t get the wheels and tracks out over non-existing bridges.
The russian commander apparently asked if he could retreat in good order out of the city…not surprisingly the AFU told him to do one and run the gauntlet. They got splattered.
Regards the do one, in 2014, it was the Ukrainians who were surrounded after the Battle of Ilovaisk their commander asked if they would be allowed vacate their positions to leave and return to Ukrainian lines, the Russians agreed, 10 miles into their journey the Russians opened fired killing over 500 men. I suspect that a lot of Ukrainians are after payback.
After an evening perusing the internet I’ve figured that the Russian withdrawal from Lyman was announced by the Russian ministry so it could be a few got out and loads more are still there. Some did try to run.
I read somewhere else that half to 2/3rds of troops stationed at Lyman were Donetsk army the rest Russian.
How russia thinks drafted men are going to manage any better is beyond me.
Ukrainians are pushing hard just now. Hopefully they are better cold weather equipped than the Russians. Some seemed to think there would be a winter slow down but now I’m not so sure.
Cold, wet, hungry, upset Russians do not make good soldiers.
Hopefully the orcs left behind in lyman a nice supply of munitions/equipment for the Ukrainians to replenish their stocks…
I think thats a very relevant point. The Ukranian army must be very grateful for the hardware they are capturing whilst Russia’s army get weaker with every retreat and massed capturing.
Bit curious that the Russian Defence Department has admitted that the Russians had to withdraw due to the “superior” Ukrainians. Throughout this war, when have the Russians been upfront about defeat?
First time I think*, which is telling.
Even after the ignominious retreat in the north back to Belarus it was painted as “mission accomplished, now redeploying forces elsewhere”.
* with the possible exception of the evacuation of Snake Island, which was always going to be untenable.
Putin is looking and sounding more and more like Hitler in his last days. Hitler didn’t have nukes though. Surely the establishment in Russia will not allow him to carry on much longer?
Hard to say, Orcs are cowards and rarely try to take anyone out at the top no matter how bad they are. They are always happy to poison, shoot, kill or imprison someone below them when ordered to just no one who can fight back.
But there was a serious coup attempt in 1991 to unseat Gorbachev and Yeltsin. KGB and military officers were involved and it nearly succeeded.
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Hitler did have the WMD of WW1 though, poison gas. While he wasn’t afraid to murder millions with gas in concentration camps, I don’t believe he ever used it as a weapon of war against the Allies. Principally because he feared the Allies would retaliate in kind…
He was gassed himself in WW1 and had a fear of gas warfare.
Very true. There were supposedly poison gas outlets on the eastern bank of the River Rhine and Hitler did not approve their use even when the Allies were charging eastwards through Germany.
I have spent a lot of time (of late) availing myself to what the pro Russian crowd have been saying about the scores on the doors inside Ukraine. So to that end here is what I have gleaned how things are by the Putin fan boy club
1) Russia realised that they no longer needed troops in the Kharkiv oblast, so carried out a well organised tactical withdrawal
2) The Ukraine was wrong to redeploy troops to recapture the Kharkiv oblast and would have been better sending them to combat the Russia push on the town of Bakmut which is still been contested.
3) The reason why the Ukrainians managed to advance into the Kharkiv oblast, was because August was the 6th month point for a lot of Russian soldiers and instead of re-signing in which to fight for mother Russia, they instead decided to sign off and go back home resulting in a 30k shortfall, which the Ukrainians took advantage of
4) Lyman is nothing special it holds no strategic valve and the Ukrainians are simply throwing men and equipment in trying to take an insignificant city
5) Things will change with the onset of winter as Russian vehicles are better suited to winter conditions than the NATO vehicles in use by Ukraine
6) Things will change when the new fully trained Russian soldiers enter the Ukrainian theatre
7) With the deployment of Russian reinforcements, Moscow will launch new pushes and take the cities of Mykolaiv (leading to a move on Odesa) and Zaporizhzhia
8) Oh and those new Russian reinforcement will contain paratroopers. I’ll end this with a picture of one set of new recruits.
Thanks for the Russian update. I’m amazed they are still eying up Odessa. It’s a huge prize to be sure, but I’d have thought even the propagandists would admit it was out of reach.
He might be that one in the middle of the photo👍
They look like really elite soldiers dont they? Definetly going to change the course of the war.
Why did the give the officer in the middle of the group an AK – it looks like he doesn’t know which end is which. Tragic!
That picture looks like a clip from Dad’s Army.
Which one in the picture is playing pike for the upcoming Russian tv version of dads army?
It’s a confusing time for most average Russians. The tv/media lies to them constantly. I can’t see one person in that picture that looks like he wants to be there. They haven’t even deployed yet. Where’s the months long refresher training etc.
this can’t be infantry? Can it? Even to train a solider on basic truck driving, weapons operations, maintenance would take a few weeks minimum.
There is this Mercuris dude from London telling all that shit on YT. It’s remarkable, how his audience – far left, far right, anticolonialist, racists… the scum of the earth – is happy to get some “context”, while their autocrat of hearts gets his arse kicked.
They will also tell, that Swatove, Kreminna, Beryslav, even Cherson are of no vital importance.
The Ukes are on the way to Severodonezk, if the city falls, the Russians need to stretch their barely manageable frontline in Donbas thin, against an enemy, who is able to amass at the point of attack. It’s game over then, within a few weeks.
And, btw, the Wargonzo dude is most interesting. Driving around, making interviews. The Russian front commanders are saying, the Ukes have air superiority. If the Russian Air Force is beaten, and the ground forces use S-300 as a makeshift cruise missile, how bad are things, really?
They’ve been saying Russia is low on long range missiles for months.
We in the West, need to keep helping Ukraine keep its fuel and weapon stocks up and also our very own stocks up several times over! Hope that Ukraine can take full advantage of any Russian supply weakness on all their battlefronts and “annex” their “annexed territories” back quickly as possible.
The west needs to be making sure it’s getting its stocks replenished and production going so weapons can keep being supplied.
I think new 152mm, 122mm ammo and other Soviet supplies can be bought from third countries ok. Just getting it from there to Ukraine takes time.
Maintenance workshops near Ukraine will be working overtime.
Hopefully the U.K. will find a warehouse full of CVRT variants to send.
And a significant percentage of the ones they launch get intercepted and destroyed. Does anyone know how well Sky Sabre is performing?
The consumption of Russia’s missile stocks have been very interesting for 2 reasons
1. They fired off hundreds of precision guided missiles depleting their cruise missile stocks without any clear plan.They caused damage but not in a strategically important manner. Russia seemed content to use them as terror weapons against blocks of flats rather than C3, barracks, ammunition stockpiles and logistics bases. The fact we are 8 months into a war and Russia’s airforce still has not acheived air superiority is rather telling of the failure of Rusdia to coordinate and prosecute a strategic air campaign.
2. Once depleted replenishment became difficult if not nearly impossible. This for me is the massive learning point. In any conflict against a peer state like Russia or China would the UK be able to replenish its stocks quickly. Probably not. Therefore having an adequate large stockpile for me is the massive learning point. MOD needs to wake upto this fact. LRASM. Storm shadow. Tomahawk. Interim anti ship missile. Spear 3 etc etc all need to be ordered in adequate numbers. So hundreds and hundreds rather than just dozens.
I fully agree, but HM Treasury has always been our armed forces biggest enemy (in peacetime). Doubt they would sanction the purchase of hundreds and hundreds of expensive complex munitions when we are not on the brink of major war.
“God and the Navy we adore, in time war, but not before.” True in the 17th century and remains so today with most militaries.
The U.K. did buy 900-1000 storm shadow. Tomahawk numbers are lower but having platforms to fire them from is also a challenge.
Most important is making some of the weapons in house. So paveway IV is the main bomb. Can the seeker and it’s parts be made quickly and are all the parts east to get. While just now it only gets launched from fast jets mainly in an actual long conflict the kit could be getting added to drones, scaled down to 50,100,150 lbs bombs.
Same with brimstone as it’s the main missile and adaptable.
Then same with asraam, and land ceptor. Can they be made easily, can asraam be fired from drones, surface easily.
The U.K. does have storage facilities for weapons that are built in hills etc as weapon storage is normally a prime target during an attack.
Not that I can see the U.K. coming under attack.
Yes. Glen Douglas, Coulport and Ernsettle are examples of those. There was another facility at Dean Hill but that was closed. Other sites use standard munitions bunkers or IWCs like Gosport.
So what, every country’s stock of missiles, of any type, is ‘limited’.
The headline of this article is deceptive.