Nearly 1,000 British Army vehicles have been deployed to Romania as part of NATO’s Allied Reaction Force during Exercise Steadfast Dart 25, showcasing NATO’s readiness to counter potential threats from Russia.
According to a press release from the British Army, 730 vehicles were loaded onto three roll-on/roll-off ships at the Sea Mounting Centre in Marchwood, Hampshire, before being transported to the Greek port of Alexandroupoli and onwards to Romania.
The deployment includes Foxhound patrol vehicles, Jackal high mobility weapons platform vehicles, and Mastiff armoured patrol vehicles, alongside logistical support such as fuel tankers and forklift trucks. Approximately 2,500 UK personnel from units including the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards and the 4th Battalion, The Royal Regiment of Scotland—part of the Desert Rats—are leading the exercise. They are joined by forces from eight other NATO nations.
Colonel Jim Beere, Deputy Chief of Staff of 1st (UK) Division, emphasised the importance of this historic deployment, stating, “This is significant for the UK, as this is the first ever time the Allied Reaction Force has deployed, and the UK is providing the Army or land component of the deployment,” as quoted in the press release.
He also noted that the exercise deliberately introduces logistical challenges to test the UK and NATO’s ability to operate under pressure.
Exercise Steadfast Dart involves a 2,300km journey across Europe, utilising sea, land, air, and rail transportation to demonstrate NATO’s capability to mobilise rapidly. In Germany, where UK forces will operate under the NATO SOFA – Supplementary Agreement, the Bundeswehr is providing critical logistical support, including refuelling and convoy coordination.
The press release also quoted Lieutenant Colonel Joe Didomenico, a US exchange officer, who highlighted the strategic importance of the exercise: “Not only will Exercise Steadfast Dart be a good demonstration of what the Allied Reaction Force can do but we’re going to learn a lot of lessons. It will shape the evolution of NATO, how it operates, and how the ARF operates over the next few years.”
As the UK continues to strengthen its NATO commitments, Armed Forces Minister Luke Pollard MP reiterated the government’s dedication to collective defence, stating, “Exercise Steadfast Dart demonstrates our unshakeable commitment to NATO and highlights the UK’s key leadership role in the alliance,” according to the press release.
With the exercise coinciding with the three-year anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, NATO’s ability to deter aggression remains a top priority.
Should Britain be deploying 1,000 Chally 3s with supporting logistical rail, this would give Russia the good news.
Deploying 1,000 fairly soft skin vehicles with 2½ men per vehicle is a waste of fuel, rations, wear and tear.
Not to mention the inevitable RTAs
DB, you know that the BA does not have, nor will ever have, 1,000 CR3s! Deploying on NATO exercises is not a waste of fuel, rations etc. Soldiers must train, even if there is the occasional RTA. The fact that the deployment is to Romania is excellent. Good practice to deploy to a very different country and close enough to Russis to send a message to Putin, as well as reassure a front line NATO ally. I can’t believe you doubt the value of deploying to Eastern Europe to train alongside NATO allies.
He was being sarcastic. He was saying a large armored force would be something. A large number of soft skinned vehicles is nothing.
Do you have problems with comprehension?
When the wise man points at the moon the fool likes at his finger.
I comprehended exactly what was written. Aside from your barbed comment, my point was that it is not only heavy armoured units that needs to exercise. In fact the vast majority of the Field Army is not ‘heavy metal’. It is useful for Putin to know that all parts of our army train for war with allies in eastern Europe.
I suspect you are not comprehending anything whatsoever.
Why do random contributors have to be rude? Lots of troll action has been observed while I’ve been chilling in the sidelines!
Yes because massed tank formations have been doing so well in Ukraine
Tank formations from the Battle of Amiens 1918 onwards only ever succeed as part of combined arms operations, in particular including Close Air Support. Armoured formations from the Battle of Frsnce 1940, the Battle of the Bulge 1944 never do much good without air superiority.
Monro, I have been watching Russian and Ukrainian tanks worth millions of pounds, getting wiped out for as little as £150 a pop. None of our vehicles and armour should be thought of as being hot war deployable until then MOD has got a proven multi-phase defence to LIDAR drones, Close circuit camera drones, heat source attracted drones and manually operated drones.
I know every military is working on an AI-deployable autonomous drone. The British have the best as far. I know some of the capabilities our new AI drone has. You won’t need any tanks when it comes online. It’s the drone equivalent to a sleeper cell. Any Army deploying against a foe that has the number Ukraine has will lose tanks and IFV/APC etc, in a few weeks and that’s not mentioning the dead.
You mean like the Kharkiv offensive, which was initiated by an armoured breakthrough near Balaklia? Or like the initial Russian offensive which successfully drove an armoured punch to link Crimea to Donetsk and surrounded Mariopol? Or are we talking about the Kursk Offensive when Ukranian armoured spearheads caught the Russians with their pants down and occupied more Russian soil in a week than the Russian infantry and artillery attacks had captured in a year?
There are plenty of examples of successful use of armour by both sides in this conflict, and plenty of examples of unsuccessful use of armour. I’ll also add to Monro’s point, by throwing a few examples of massed armour assaults that went spectacularly wrong in WW2: Kursk (the other battle of Kursk that is) when not only did the Wehrmacht and Waffen SS get stopped in their tracks with heavy casualties by well prepared defensive Soviet Lines, but several, very large, Soviet armoured counter attacks where repulsed with very heavy losses.
Operation Crusader, where massed British Armoured attacks lead to heavy casualties, and in the end it was Commonwealth Infantry that drove back the Axis. Rommels advance from Gazala, where his attacks cost him so many tanks that he was unable to prevent the Commonwealth from withdrawing from Mersa Matruh.
I could go on but I think the point is made; Armoured Formations do well when they are supported, achieve operational surprise, and are well handled by their commanders. They have never done well on their own, against a prepared enemy that knows their coming, and with careless commanders.
I can show you pictures of 10,000 dead Russian tanks if you like.
And?
The Allies lost 11,000 armoured vehicles on the Western Front in 1944 alone and that was with air superiority.
But it was Armour that got them across the Rhine and Armour that got the Russians to Berlin.
The point, though, is that a British Armoured Corps on continental Europe has deterred Russia before successfully and would do so again.
Without it, the Baltic States, Moldova, Ukraine will remain at risk for the foreseeable future.
Deterrence, credible conventional deterrence based on a massed land army with appropriate supporting air defence, close air support is always great deal cheaper in blood and treasure than warfighting.
No one in the history of warfare has ever been deterred by a British Armoured Corps.
The BAOR was moderate in comparison to its NATO counterparts parts and tiny compared to the Warsaw pact formations in faced off against.
The only thing sending 1000 British tanks to Europe would achieve is pissing our military budget up the wall and crippling the army and navy that have significantly more deterrent value to Russia and China.
It would make Germany feel much better about its constant military underspending, if that’s your Geo political goal then rock on.
I agree with you totally… But as I see this “force” it seems half made up of drivers…. Correct me…
2,500 soldiers, 730 vehicles… so no. That’s somewhere in the region of 25% drivers which seems accurate.
He didn’t mean actual tanks. He meant a hypothetical number of true fight vehicles.
Perhaps why don’t you try thinking when you read others’ comments instead of being so literal?
Jim, poorly led, poorly trained Russian tank units operating low quality and elderly Soviet-era tanks and adopting incorrect tactics, have done badly, but that is not true of Ukrainian tank units.
New Tanks will be arriving shortly
Well they’ve been tens of thousands of infantry casualties but no one is saying we should get rid of the foot soldier
Never Served, have you?
He did, actually! RMP.
So he didn’t really rmp lol
And you were?
Lol
When it kicks off in earnest we could have our Romanian friends look after the flanks, I’ve heard they’re really good at that.
Peace is about to break out anyways so it’s a waste of time and money.
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Even if there is a peace treaty in the Ukraine war, that doesn’t lessen the threat posed by Russia to peaceful Eastern European countries.
What I like about this place is in one post or comment the Russians are incompetent fools. And then in the next post or comment they are uber scary and we all need to be frightened. Which is it?
‘Quantity has a quality all of its own’
Stephanie, the deployment of Russian troops is contingent upon the specific units assigned to each sector, and it seems unlikely that Putin has committed his best, high-readiness divisions—predominantly composed of contract soldiers equipped with advanced tanks and APCs, from the Leningrad Military District, to the front in Ukraine. Instead, it appears more plausible that he may have redistributed the first-rate forces, potentially numbering around 30,000, from the Leningrad Military District, substituting them with lesser-trained units. Such a move, however, would exacerbate vulnerabilities in the region, particularly regarding NATO readiness if a Russian incursion into the Baltics were to occur.
The cadre-and-reserve units of the Russian Armed Forces operate at a low state of readiness, characterised by a minimal presence of professional soldiers and conscripts. The expectation is that these units would be reinforced by reservists during mobilisation. Given the ongoing military engagement in Ukraine, many of these cadre-and-reserve formations have already been deployed, often with poor performance against Ukrainian forces, resulting in significant attrition rates. Consequently, the Russian military likely has a reduced pool of highly capable contract units remaining, despite some uncommitted forces still available.
While the reserve forces theoretically include over two million former conscripts and contract personnel, the reality is that few are currently engaged in active training or prepared for combat. Historically, the retraining of reservists has been deficient, with only about 10 percent receiving refreshers post-service, limiting their operational effectiveness when called upon.
It’s people opinion maybe don’t take it so literally? Remind you of something you said earlier?
‘Russia is never as strong as she looks, Russia is never as weak as she looks’.
Perhaps your world of Warcraft is taxing you?
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Well you must know something we don’t, past Romanian feats are not much… Dacia?… Peace… Birds eye…
This comprises elements of 7 LM Bde.
So they don’t have Tanks, or heavier armoured vehicles.
Are they supposed to get Boxer to replace those vehicles in future?
Apart from the readily available pictures of Foxhounds and Jackals being loaded onto the boat?
No.
Boxer is going to elements of 12 and 20 Brigades, in 3 Division.
1 Division, from which 7 Bde is drawn, is the deoloyable lighter part of the Army.
If orders for Boxer, or a similar vehicle, were expanded, then yes, for these units would be a logical fit.
In fact, this Bde is where Boxer SHOULD have gone, back in 2015 when Strike surfaced, alongside the heavy Bdes of 3 Div.
But that wouldn’t have been a cut, but a great capability jump, and they couldn’t have that.
Hope for the Patria 6×6 that’s been touted then, as well as to replace the FV432.
Yes, I supported buying that to be a “good enough” vehicle, being much cheaper than a Boxer, to fill supporting roles, to enable Boxer to mechanize more than a paltry 4 Infantry Battalions.
Just like when Warrior came into service, it didn’t fill all roles, 432 remained.
As Dern said on another thread, it’s not a done deal they’re proposing the prospect of Patria being built here for the Army.
Daniele, how many Patria’s could it be?
@Ex-RM
Anywhere from 500 to 3,000 depending on which of the LMP programs it’s being pitched at.
Hi everyone, no one knows what kinda hardware has been deployed for the exercise, I mean the government’s ain’t going to publish on line what hardware they have taken, anyway good luck to all the nato forces involved it’ll make putin sit back and think 🤔.
Yes it sure will,!!
I’ve heard he’s shaking in his boots.
Column. Everyone knows what kit is going on this exercise. Press release tells us and anyway we know what kit the participants are equipped with.
Plenty of pics of the ferries and the road move though. You’re right, it is classified.
Yes and no.
It’s no secret what these units and their parent Brigades, so 7 and 101, assuming that Bde has logistic enablers deployed, field.
In 1 UK Div, Foxhound, Jackal is mostly 7 Bde territory. There are no heavier armoured vehicles in the Bde beyond Mastiff in some of the CS elements. I don’t think the attached RE Regiment operate Terrier.
Field Artillery is 105mm Light Gun.
Hi Daniele,
Hi folks hope all is well!
As ever I ask you and other experts on this site for advice. My question is in the event of an emergency and with the threat of hostile enemy. How would we protect the transportation of the weapons and hardware vehicles from being sunk before they reach safe landing or bridge-head?
Cheers
George
Those sorts of plans will be classified.
And there’s also the Channel Tunnel. 😉
But there are some things that we can take away easily;
Ships will probably aim to land troops and equipment in ports far back from the front line; France, Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany, and then train to the frontline (or chunnel as you say). And the RN’s primary focus since the 1960’s has been sub hunting in the North Atlantic, so any Russian submarine in the North and Baltic seas would be a very endagered species.
Key points to note: 1) Even now we don’t send our Ro-Ro’s into the Black Sea, instead unloading in Greece and Road/Rail moving to Romania. 2) With the Syrians closing their ports to the Russians, and the Turks closing the Black Sea, the Russian presence in the Med is going to be weaker than ever.
All sensible. I recall, Reforger from the 80s also used French and other ports.
I hope you are well informed about the RN…… Seems to me the ruskys have more subs than we have navy… Still we alway shine when the odds are against us. Rule Britannia.
Because Britain would be sending troops to Europe if we were fighting the Russians on our own right?
But NATO has nearly 400 surface combatants, and another 144 submarines, and Russia has 48 subs, 11 of which are SSBN’s and if Russia wants to send SSBN’s into the North Sea to hunt transports, I’m sure nobody would object. (oh and btw the UK has 53 ships, if you discount Victory and the Scimitars, so no, Russia doesn’t actually have more subs than we have ships but hey ho).
No actually the Russian SSN fleet is not that big…most people forget Russia operates from 2 oceans and it’s for a split fleet. Also quite frankly almost all Russian SSNs are a good 25-35 years old and many are not in the active fleet.
So the Russian northern fleet ( the one the RN faces) has
2 Oscar class SSGNs both 35 years old and designed in the 1960/70s
3 Yasan class SSGNs all commissioned in the last decade..but first of class laid down in 1990s designed in 1980s
2 Serria 2 class SSNs both commissioned 35 years ago designed in the 1970s
1 victor 3 class SSN commissioned 35 years ago design roots are from the 1950s
2 Akula class SSN commissioned 25-30 years ago designed in the 1980s
So no the Russian nuclear submarine fleet is not overwhelming..
5 35 year old subs probably peers to the old RN Churchill class
2 25 year old subs probably peers to the old RN swifture class
3 modern subs with design roots back in the 1980s so peers of the Trafalgar class.
Against that 10 of which 70% are geriatric hopelessly out of date subs the RN has 7 of the most modern and deadly SSNs on the planet…so I would suggest the RN will win that battle.
Infact the Russian navy has no plan to send its Remaining geriatric SSN fleet out to fight an ASW battle with the RN and allies that it knows it cannot win..as it’s refitted all its active SSNs as long range cruise missile platforms…that it will hide in its bastions and use to lob missiles at NATO bases.
If we are counting Russian SSN’s other than the Yasen class then the UK should be able to count all the Trafalgar and Swiftsure class boats sitting around Rosyth and Devenport.
I dare say our decommissioned subs are in a better shape that most of the Russia navy.
There is a really good article on that on The Thin Pinstriped Line.
O fuck……..
Yes it sure will,!!
I’ve heard he’s shaking in his boots.
So you keep saying, Clausewitz.
We are becoming a nation of smoke and mirrors as saying nearly a thousand British Army vehicles land on the continent but what it doesn’t say is they have no teeth and are mainly logistical/Reece vehicles with no real deterrence. It’s criminal that we have virtually no artillery a handful of tanks and the poorest level of infantry in our history. If Trump pulls the plug on US forces in NATO we are well and truly F***ed!
And Europe is doing everything it can to encourage it. There is a big fight coming over tariffs and the EU’s attempt through the DSA to take on Musk and the other US tech giants over free speech. Trump will point out to NATO members that they can’t have the US protect them while they are members of an EU that treats the US as an economic enemy. European NATO nations will be forced to make a choice – NATO or the EU. Or, the US will just decide that enough is enough and put, as Trump says, America First.
Ah look, an economics lecture from the MAGA ignoramus who gets all of their ‘news ‘ and misinformation from foreign botfarms on Tik Tok and X. No wonder President Musk and first lady Trump are keeping Tik Tok in place., it’s all you know.
Has he built the border wall yet?, the one that Mexico was going to pay for.
We don’t need the US to protect us in Europe, from what? We can handle Russia even with our militaries as they stand. The US should stay focused on China and maybe Iran and stop believing we all can’t do without it in Europe. There are no decisions to make as you point out, the EU as a block will of course demand certain standards for its citizens and not buckle to the US corporations, this is why we don’t eat chlorinated chicken or only have 2 weeks holidays a year and abysmal maternity support. Because the US can’t fleece the EU doesn’t make it an enemy, nor does it mean we can’t cooperate as NATO, so slice up a cucumber onto your MAGA hat, and eat it.
Mike, perhaps you think the entire Field Army is comprised of tanks, IFVs and SPGs? That largely is what 3rd Div is all about. The rest of the army needs to train as well.. The choice of Romania for this NATO exercise is clearly intended to send a Deterrence statement to Putin.These deploying units are from 1st Div. If the balloon went up, then everything would go out of the front door to eastern Europe.
The main statement from the heavy metal part of the army is Op Cabrit.
Graham, you should have served, you are quite amusing.
He has, a long time, and it would sadly appear that you did not, hence the rolling and rather obvious jealousy. Its getting quite sad that even this site is now overrun with losers and trolls.
A bit misleading in the title, it’s almost like saying we have nearly 100,000 thousand troops when in fact it’s 72k (if in fact it is 72k)
Cymbeline, Add in the Army Reserve and the Regular Reserves.
In fariness Cymbeline was complaining about the wording of the title not the size of the British Army.
Their complaint is that describing 730 vehicles as “nearly 1,000” is the same as describing 72,000 as “nearly 100,000.”
I get the complaint but really seems a bit of a mountain out of a molehill.
Yeah, I just like accuracy. Always believed that’s the correct when when writing reports or packages to inform.
Graham, you are clueless as to the numbers. How many are actually deployable, you little rascal?
Hi Dave.
I’ve never seen you post before, and you seem to have settled on belittling Graham at every opportunity?
Why?
Dave the troll.
I read somewhere recently, that the British standing full time Army only had around 15000 1st rate infantry out of a British Army that totals around 75000. Of course their are also well trained small number of reserve infantry Battalions to call on at time of Geopolitical crisis. The army is at its smallest since Napoleonic War. Its ridicules and dangerous for the defence of Europe and UK. I think all sections of our nations military need the latest modern warfighting kit for offensive/defensive operations some of the shelf or built under licence. The UK needs a layered anti ballistic missile high altitude defence system urgently. Just my opinion only. Why are some of our recon vehicles open to the north European elements for crew. bet its cold & wet operating them. They are still painted in desert cam? from the photo. Why are we not buying 155 towed artillery and other top modern kit for the Army from BAE Systems?.
I don’t know what you are defining as “first rate infantry” but yes, there’s about that much infantry in the Regular Army (you mentioned reserves as well, but reserves are not counted in the 75,000 number, that’s a completely seperate 30,000 strong contigent).
Jackal is a replacement for RWIMK, which also was always open to the elements when it was deployed in Europe (Jackal is actually more popular than RWIMK because it has a functioning heater). While there is an option for Jackal with a closed Cab, the British Army hasn’t seen fit to take it up. I suspect part of it is the “all round visibility” mindset, and another is a not spending money on what doesn’t absolutely need it right now mindset. Quite a few vehicles are in the ubiquitous desert cam, but that’s not limited to the British Army, the Americans still have the same.
Why are we not buying 155 towed artillery? You answered it in your very same sentence. 155 towed is not “top modern,” M777 was designed in the 80’s, and has been in service for 20 years with the Americans. At no point has the British Army felt the need to replace it’s 105mm towed guns with 155’s, and compared to looking at 120mm mortars or SPG 155’s getting a towed 155 into service these days is so low on the priorities list, it doesn’t even get a mention.
Gemma, 15,000 Reg Army infantry is about what I would expect from a 73,000 army. Rule of thumb always was 25% of the total. As Dern says, towed 155mm arty is old hat. We are buying truck-mounted artillery, an interim purchase of 14 Archers, then Boxer RCH-155 as the long term replacement for AS-90.
I read somewhere recently, that the British standing full time Army only had around 15000 1st rate infantry out of a British Army that totals around 75000. Of course their are also well trained small number of reserve infantry Battalions to call on at time of Geopolitical crisis. The army is at its smallest since Napoleonic War. Its ridicules and dangerous for the defence of Europe and UK. I think all sections of our nations military need the latest modern warfighting kit for offensive/defensive operations some of the shelf or built under licence. The UK needs a layered anti ballistic missile high altitude defence system urgently. Just my opinion only. Why are some of our recon vehicles open to the north European elements for crew. bet its cold & wet operating them. They are still painted in desert cam? from the photo. Why are we not buying 155 towed artillery and other top modern kit for the Army from BAE Systems?.
You keep mentioning that Russia are the aggressors when in fact it’s quite the opposite, you guys have a lot to learn, this conflict all kicked off during the EuroMaidan in 2014 luckily there are 17 un-cut documentaries called ‘Rose’s Have Thorns’ which again luckily has not been taken down, these were taken during 2014, the one to watch is Part 6 The Odessa Masacre, here you will see how some Ukrainian people’s hate is shown towards ordinary Russian folk.
Then if you have time look into Stepan Bandera, a Nazi sympathiser.
Putin has been describing demography as an existential threat to Russia since the year 2000. Putin’s strategic plan is to absorb Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova, the Baltic States into a Russian dominated ‘Union State’. That Union State will comprise 250 million souls and dominate the European land mass.
The idea that Russia is not the aggressor is unevidenced at best and unprintably silly at worst.
It is well evidenced he’s not the aggressor, just not in the lies you listen to,,,, what is unevidenced is all that bollox you just said about Putins plans, I’ll transfer you 10k if you can show me where Putin as said such things or even said anything about it anting you take over Ukraine, he as constantly said the opposite about Ukraine and nothing about the rest
The authorship of the strategy document, according to one Western official with direct knowledge of its construction, belongs to the Presidential Directorate for Cross-Border Cooperation, a subdivision of Putin’s Presidential Administration, which was established five years ago. The rather innocuously named directorate’s actual task is to exert control over neighboring countries that Russia sees as in its sphere of influence: Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova.
The directorate is headed by Alexey Filatov, who reports directly to Dmitri Kozak, the deputy chief of the Presidential Administration. Filatov’s team was tasked to come up with new strategies that would detail Russia’s strategic goals in all six countries, relying on the resources and input of most of the vital Russian state institutions. According to a Western intelligence officer with direct knowledge of the strategy document, Russia’s domestic, foreign and military intelligence services — the FSB, SVR, GRU, respectively — in addition to the General Staff of the Armed Forces, all actively contributed to the Union State plan. The resulting document was presented to Kozak in the fall of 2021
As if you have 10k to transfer.
Can’t even use punctuation properly.
Oh dear, as soon as the monitored bots track a “Putin” or a “Russia” post they come out in droves with there sad bot bollox, desperately making an effort at earning the extra 1Kg of potatoes by the end of the week. .
Yes Bandera worked with the Nazi’s. Well done. Do you know why he worked with the Nazi’s? It didn’t come out of left field. He worked with them because they where the only people opposing the Soviets, and the only chance Ukraine had of getting out of the Soviet Union. So it’s hardly a surprise now when you put it into context isn’t it?
You know who else worked with the Nazis? The Finns. Because again, their only chance of beating off the Soviets was accepting Nazi aid, and fighting alongside them during the War.
Good of you to mention Odessa, you know that entire event happened when a group of Pro-Russian protestors attacked a Ukranian rally? Russian stooges love to leave that bit out, they also love to leave out that the first person to die was a pro-Ukranian protestor shot dead by the Russians… “Ordinary Russian folk” love starting shit, and then playing the victim when they get their asses handed to them.
Ho that will be why Bandera murdered a 100,000 Polish then?
If you want to go down that path, look at how many Poles where Gulag’ed by the Soviets in the interwar period… put the UPA to shame.
Never mind at least we’ll get to meet at the World Cup….Oh hold your banned, never mind at least we’ll get to meet at the Olympics…..Oh hold on you’re banned from that as well, maybe at the Euros….. but no because you’re banned from there as well. Perhaps Russia would be better off in the Asia area as most of Russia falls within that region, I mean its not like anyone regards you as Europeans.
Yes Putin was not the aggressor..he just invaded a sovereign nation because the population decided to remove the corrupt puppet leader and place a new set of leaders he did not like..
Hint if you send troops into another sovereign nation that has not first attacked you then you are the aggressor simple as.
Oh here we go, yet another apologist who can source “info” which confirms there own required echo chamber and version of historic events. Get a grip, no one thinks Ukraine is full of angels, but your master Pooptin has fucked up, made a very bad choice in invading, and has not got the balls to admit it, and pull out of Ukraine. But alas, you are not in a position to agree, as you are a monitored bot and it is your sad but easy job to type disinformation and nonsense.
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Exercise waste of effort which is part of the ongoing op futile gestures.
Amazed we managed to get enough vehicles working
I think the Brits should stay at home and stop pretending to be a World power.
We’ve always practiced at deploying and exercising in Europe because their security is our security. I suggest you get back to smoking your pipe, but take thats wacky backy out first.
I think Trolls should get a grip and maybe try to upgrade their employment and apply for a car wash job.
He’s back! 😁
Good to see you, old friend.
Interesting.
Lots of new names on this thread, mostly belittling long term, respected posters like Graham, the armed forces, or the country.
The Trolls are busy?
Good, means they’re pissed off and worried.
I do wonder what some IP address checking would reveal.
Hi again mate, I’ve been on the side-lines for a bit mostly just reading, but the amount of sad bots and trolls turning up when they track words such a Putin/Ukraine and Russia is very sad. Sad but expected and much more common at the moment.
It’s that and the sad trolls and triggered Andrew Tate fans who can’t accept that women have a place in the army.
I do miss being able to click on a profile and seeing that, yes, in fact, this poster has only made comments on this particular page. What a surprise (not that it’s really needed, but the confirmation was nice)
Hello mate. Good to see you around.
Wow there’s a shed load of political warfare operatives or just useful idiots, posting on this stream.
Stands out a mile, doesn’t it.
100%
They’ve even dragged me out of “semi post retirement” lol
Welcome back.
Would have been more accurate to report ‘just over 500 vehicles….’ please headline as it is without any elaboration. Reporting 730 as almost / nearly 1000 is MOD political spin talk. Nice to have seen some warrior or Ajaj..going. especially Ajax. Early deployment test.
Perhaps exercise should have focused on Greenland or Svalbard. Greenland in response to agent orange and Svalbard as that has real potential to be Trumps next flag waving flash point.
My bad. Svalbard should have read as Putins next potential flag waving exercise. I can foresee claims of treaty being signed at a time of Russian weakness, Russia’s ‘stake’ being recognised in the shared mining concessions and Trump responding along lines it appears to be a historical anomaly which europe needs to sort out with Russia…..nothing to do with us..do a deal. .putin doesn’t want or need to invade western Europe. He does need nationalistic flag waving success to bolster his position. Shouldn’t UK focus on supporting Scandinavia and northern Atlantic. Germany. Poland, France etc more than capable of securing mainland Europe.
Interestingly I’ve just been having a good look at the French army orders for armoured vehicles, very interesting when compared to the British army.
Over the last decade the French army has essentially been modernised with
200 modern MBTs ( with 200 old MBTs to be in storage)
300 25 ton, armoured cav vehicles 6 wheeled 40mm cannon and 4 anti tank missiles, STANAG level 4
510 30 ton, IFV, 8 wheels 25mm cannon, STANAG 4
110 30 ton, command vehicle’s 8 wheeled 12.7inch MG STANAG level 4
1900 25 ton APCs 6 wheeled STANAG level 4
2000 17 ton APCs 4 wheeled STANAG level 4
1100 4.5 ton light protected mobility STANAG level2
110 CAESAR 2 self-propelled howitzer
Considering what the British army has managed to order in the last decade,
Let’s not forget ‘Our comrades ‘ who are heading out as an extremely professional fighting force ,as for all the back chat /banter some of it extremely unhelpful , negative but also positive ,the very last thing they need is as a Sovereign Fighting Force with all the Historical 🔙 which included the capture of Napoleon ‘s Eagle (Edinburgh Castle) Ensign Ewart/by the way the French Government asked for it to be returned/the reply was Non (excuse my school boy french)No chance mate with all due respect ; why is it that in every conflict ‘The Scottish Regiment’s are ‘Centre of Line’ not because they are numpties /stupid or daft but because they who ever and were ever they are recruited from believe in their individual Regimental Honour’s/History of service to this United Kingdom ,this may I add extends to ‘The Senior Service ‘ and to a particular event on the 21st October 1805 when Adm Nelson relayed order’s to ‘The Fleet’ (you know the rest ) hopefully the fact was as recorded he relied upon all other nationals including Scots would in fact carry out their duty and defend Britain. As a ‘Loyal and Proud Veteran ‘(Royal Air Force./MT.D)ask you to support and send positive messages of encouragement to our ‘Brave and Fantastic Armed Forces ‘
G.S.K
Respect 🥃
You realise that after being the biggest empire and capturing Napoleon’s flag, now you have an island being trampled from one end to the other by refugees and other similar colours, wreaking havoc and all you do is give them money and housing like most of Europe. Deserves a nice burial that lost and not found anymore pride.
Would that be a UK spelt John or a non UK version eh “John”?
Both with one of the passports. I don’t mind pointing what I’ve said wrong… British Empire wasn’t built over tea and scones in the garden. Walking around Londonistan and other places here your problem is what putin does? Anyone else would do the same when surrounded with weapons. By constitution they were supposed to stay neutral. Nato isn’t neutrality. We have no idea what is actually happening and why. Same as in afganistan, at one point even people living in caves had a bag of money but nobody knew how they got it. Were you so defensive from behind the screen with every war recently or just this one because you can’t read anything else anymore other than russia, women with moustaches, etc?
(You can tell this is a different account because it has a different gravatar btw)
Lots of new trolls/posters on this subject matter it would seem. I see the bots are searching hard for their master!
Yes the political warfare Types and or useful idiots are out in force. I personally have a bit of respect for the political warfare types as they are at least doing to the job they are paid for and supporting their own nations….the useful idiots in the west are just subverting their own way of life and making their own nations weaker..sad.
Idite vse nahui
No money for pensioners but plenty for war … Remember, no one has ever won a war against Russia …
The Russians won WW2 , with over 29 million dead … Why is the UK supporting Zionists , in a USA proxy war ? What are British service forces being put at risk , for the sake of the real foe , the USA ??? Whoever makes this decisions , should have to spearhead the forces , in combate ops … The world would so much more peaceful if they had to …
Soon , Greenland will be the USA’s 51st state or should I say 53rd , since there are other countries that would not exist if for the propimg up but the u$a … And just like them , war criminals , just like the USA , commit crimes around the world and no one gets charged for the crimes they commit …
Have a read of The Hague Invasion Law , unilaterally passed by the USA …
No one won a war against Russia huh? Let’s just stick to modern times
1856- Crimean War- Britain and France invade Russia in support of the Ottomans -Russia looses
1905- Russo-Japanese War – Russia tries to 1v1 Japan, gets it’s ass handed to it on land and multiple times at sea
1917- WW1 – Following years of the Germans tearing the Russian Army apart while holding off the British and the French in the west Russia collapses under the strain of fighting the war. Signs a humilitating peace treaty that makes Versailles look like a cake walk.
1917- Finnish War of Independence – Finland beats off Russian/Soviet attempts at reintigration. Russian ever re-annexes Finland
1918- Latvian War of Independence -Latvia beats off the Soviets, remains independent until the 1940’s.
1918- Lithuanian War of Independence- Ditto
1918- Estonian War of Independence – Ditto
1920- Russian invasion of Poland.- Trotsky and Stalin are humiliated by Polish cavalry and made a laughing stock. Run back to moscow and hide.
1925- Soviet invasion of Afghanistan (lol not that one) – Soviets are forced to pull back and recognise Afghanistans borders
1929- Soviet invasion of Afghanistan (lol still not that one) – Soviets scuttle back across the border after trying to intervene in an Afghan civil war.
1938- Spanish Civil War- Soviet units are deployed to Span to support the Far Left party, Franco, Hitler and Mussolini kick them out.
1940- Finnish Winter War- Russia looses unfathomable amounts of people and material to Finland. Fails to occupy Finland or turn it into a Puppet State.
1979- Afghanistan – Yes finally it’s that one, the Soviets wander into Afghanistan and get their asses handed to them, suffering 600,000 casualties, and are sent scuttling back to Russia. Arguably a direct influence on the collapse of the USSR.
1989- Cold War – Spectacular defeat, results in the Soviet Union suffering a critical non-existence error.
1994- First Chechnian War- Russia charges into Chechnia. Chechen fighters teach Russia what RPGs do.
2014- Russian invasion of Ukraine- Russian backed paramilitaries attempt to seize Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk. Even after direct intervention of the Russian Army they get beaten by Azov outside Mariopol and driven back. Russians still seethe at this and cry about it every time Azov is mentioned.
2025- Syria- Even with unfocused Western dithering, Russia squanders it’s home field advantage with Assad, having over commited to Ukraine and gets booted out by the incoming Regime.
So, nobody has ever won a war against Russia my fucking boot.
I see there are a lot of smart Alex’s on here. Leave the desisions to the government.