There are currently a significant number of British and American surveillance aircraft in the air over and around Ukraine.
One British UK RC-135W Rivet Joint, one American RC-135W Rivet Joint, one Global Hawk drone and a NATO E-3 AWACS aircraft are currently in the air.
https://twitter.com/geoallison/status/1496494438423609345
This comes after America joined Britain on Tuesday in accusing Russia of invading Ukraine with tanks spotted rolling into the east of the country. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson also announced an extra package of military support to Ukraine, including lethal aid, in the face of Russia’s “threatening behaviour”.
Surveillance aircraft being over the area isn’t unusual but we are seeing a significant increase in the frequency of the flights over the last few days for obvious reasons.
What does the RC-135W do?
According to the Royal Air Force website, the RC-135W Rivet Joint is a dedicated electronic surveillance aircraft that can be employed in all theatres on strategic and tactical missions. Its sensors ‘soak up’ electronic emissions from communications, radar and other systems.
“RC-135W Rivet Joint employs multidiscipline Weapons System Officer (WSO) and Weapons System Operator (WSOp) specialists whose mission is to survey elements of the electromagnetic spectrum in order to derive intelligence for commanders.”
The Royal Air Force say that Rivet Joint has been deployed extensively for Operation Shader and on other operational taskings. It had been formally named Airseeker, but is almost universally known in service as the RC-135W Rivet Joint.
The UK operates three of these aircraft.
What does the E-3 do?
According to the U.S. Air Force, the E-3 Sentry is an airborne warning and control system, or AWACS, aircraft with an integrated command and control battle management, or C2BM, surveillance, target detection, and tracking platform.
The aircraft provides an accurate, real-time picture of the battlespace to the Joint Air Operations Center.
“AWACS provides situational awareness of friendly, neutral and hostile activity, command and control of an area of responsibility, battle management of theatre forces, all-altitude and all-weather surveillance of the battlespace, and early warning of enemy actions during joint, allied, and coalition operations.”
What does the Global Hawk do?
According to Northrop Grumman, the RQ-4 Global Hawk unmanned aircraft is “the premier provider of persistent intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance information”. Able to fly at high altitudes for greater than 30 hours, Global Hawk is designed to gather near-real-time, high-resolution imagery of large areas of land in all types of weather – day or night.
The U.S. Air Force add here that the RQ-4 Global Hawk is a high-altitude, long-endurance, remotely piloted aircraft with an integrated sensor suite that provides global all-weather, day or night intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) capability. Global Hawk’s mission is to provide a broad spectrum of ISR collection capability to support joint combatant forces in worldwide peacetime, contingency and wartime operations.
The Global Hawk provides persistent near-real-time coverage using imagery intelligence (IMINT), signals intelligence (SIGINT) and moving target indicator (MTI) sensors.
Great to see E3 in the air, looking for Russki aircraft inside Ukraine’s boarder.
Clicked on the Twitter feed of the Forte11 flight path above, boy Ukraine airspace is empty…but look how congested it is over the Russian boarder.
You have to say VERY mixed messages from the UK – because the sanctions regime announced was pathetic; BoJo the clown someohow managed to find 3 of the only Russian thieves who moved their money to somewhere other than the UK. There are HUNDREDs of Russians in the UK laundering their money (and no one in Russia has more than 2 roubles to rub together without Putin’s say so) and not a single penny of their money has been touched – and BoJo knows who they are, he’s played tennis with enough of them at ‘fundraisers’.
When the Lib Dems and even the SNP are pressing for more action, you know something is woefully wrong..
I suspect that the Russian money not being touched is here on behalf of the Russians that have ‘disputes’ with Russia and to hit them would be doing Putin a favour. We also have to be careful to try and not implement sanctions that would have a serious blowback. In effect, as I have said, they are now a busted flush.
The sensor suite of the Global Hawk and the small number purchased as a Nato asset probably mitigates for the loss of Sentinel.
Wedgetail is supposed to have similar ground surveillance capability when it arrives.
If Russia were to launch a sudden air and missile strike, would they forwarn those Nato assets to vacate? Hitting one by ‘accident’ could spark a war. Keeping constant flights therefore might be a good delaying tactic.
If a Russian land offensive can be monitored from range, if Nato provided precise data for counter battery fire by Ukraine artillery for instance? How would Russia react to that?
Wedgetail is for air battle-space control.
Daesh used cheap, home made drones to spot the fall of shot for their accurate artillery in Syria. The Ukraine army stabilised a “line of control” – with the Russian separatists occupying about half of both provinces – in 2014-15 using similarly highly accurate shellfire. You can assume the Ukrainians have well camuflaged, mobile batteries and their own means to identify targets and break up Russian/separatist/Wagner attacks.
It is possible that the Russians have been reinforcing the separatist regions because they were concerned that the recently re-supplied Ukraine Army was about to launch a pre-emptive strike of its own – to liberate the Russian speaking areas. The Ukrainian Army has already proved that it can fight
We can also assume, with their superior intelligence gathering assets that the Russians know pretty much where the UA is plus that the RuA has overwhelming artillery superiority most of which doesn’t need to enter Donbas.
Where is the evidence that the UA can outfight the DNR/LDR militias and friends. The main reason for the Minsk agreements, that Ukraine fiercely opposed and never implemented, was the associated ceasefires that stopped the Donbas militias overunning the UA after the Debaltseve defeat.
More shite!
Global Hawk is very good, but I do wonder how far it goes with mitigating the loss of Sentinel – that was an extremely good platform; you can see that it was cut because it was presented on a list with costs beside it for a politician to decide which one goes.
I would imagine Global Hawk has reasonable uplink speeds, but I would imagine it is far removed from a manned platform that can direct the data to processing at high speed.
An example from the humdrum world of domestic infosec, to test a company’s security the company I worked for would intercept network traffic; now with a man in the middle attack (a compromised system within the network) we could get a very large amount of information straight to our servers, and then direct the processing of that information – and then even things like HTTPS, although not trivial, could sometimes be broken and then read in real time (I think that has been fixed now, we used a common misconfiguration in a compression algorithm); but if we failed with man in the middle would would use a system that essentially recorded all of the wifi traffic (a day could be many terabytes), and then take it back to base and sift through it there, try to apply it the next day, if not good, rinse and repeat – I can’t help thinking that will be similar for the people waiting for a Global Hawk to land, or at least there will be a delay in sending the data through satellite.
Hi David. The military do regular ‘Tempest’ checks. I worked at a facility which was 100ft underground. Due to an item of equipment which had been moved away from its original position, and placed next to an unprotected mains cable, the Tempest team was able to sit in the car park above (and near to a lamp post, I believe) and read classified information leaking up through the mains!
Fortunately the good old CRT screens, the bane of Tempest life, are no more. Right at the start of optical fiber we built a widget for incorporating in others equipment to transmit data through the secure wall of Faraday cages.
The UK and US RC135’s are operating well away from Russian and Belorusian borders – but they are flying at over 30,000ft which I guess would enable them to ‘see’ an extremely long distance into their territory.
Anyone aware of how far they can ‘see’ from 30,000 feet?
If they are there now its looks like it will be a busy night for them. The Donbas locals have been told that the cellphone networks are jammed until morning as the Krasuhkas [Russian electronic warfare systems] are working. There are unsubstantiated claims the the RuAF are overhead. It seems like Moscow gave Ukraine 24 hours to decide what to do and Kiev continued shelling Donbas. As of nightfall this evening no significant Russian units had crossed the border but they are now moving in. This is a report from a trusted source in Crimea
“The entire Crimea/Ukraine border is now closed, shut down tight. No one in, no one out. Period. The border of DNR/LNR/ to Russia is also shut, no one allowed in, but civilians can cross to Russia. The fight for the rest of DNR/LNR will start by week’s end. It is unknown if Russian forces will be involved but the leash is off the Donbas militias. In particular, the hunt is on for anyone who was involved in killing civilians in DNR/LNR, Odessa and the Korson Massacre of the Crimean civilians returning from Maidan debacle in 2014.”
Sadly now sounds like a very different story this morning.
Yup, Russia is disabling the Ukraine military. Only questions are how long it takes and what they do next.
Give it a rest with your Putin apologist bot troll behaviour. You still have not condemned a criminal act by a criminal and his mafia head sheds. Your true purpose of justifying a Nazi action is now apparent. And you seem to be very slow now at replying, certainly on more current stories on UKDJ as news comes out of Ukraine.
Meanwhile on the otherside of the fence:
https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1496640097961324547?s=20&t=pA_WpcROwV2cNHE_R6JDng
I thought that all NATO trainers were all pulled out last week.
Further to this list, On ADS-B Exchange there was a E-8C JSTARS Orbiting the Ukraine/Poland Border
The Sentinels may have come in handy too.