HMS Cardiff – the second out of eight Type 26 frigates being commissioned – will soon enter the water for the first time

BAE Systems previously confirmed the news when publishing its financial accounts.

The company reported a 9% increase in sales, totalling £25.3 billion, and an 8% rise in operating profit to £2.6 billion for the period ending December 31. Alongside these financial milestones, BAE Systems noted expansion in its order book, which now stands at £58 billion, up £9.1 billion from the previous year.

Charles Woodburn, BAE Systems Chief Executive, shared his enthusiasm for the company’s performance over the past year:

“We’ve delivered a strong operational and financial performance in 2023 and I’m extremely proud of the way our people have delivered cutting-edge equipment and services to our customers, working together with partners across our supply chain. Our performance, combined with our global footprint and record order intake, means we’re well-positioned for sustained growth in the coming years. We’ll keep driving the business forward, investing in new technologies, facilities and our people. This will help us deliver on our order backlog and help ensure our government customers stay ahead in an uncertain world, whilst delivering increased value to our shareholders and the communities where we operate.”

On HMS Cardiff, the report states:

“The UK Type 26 programme continues and construction is underway on the first four City Class Type 26 frigates, with a focus on skilled and experienced resource availability, including within the supply chain. HMS Glasgow is progressing through the key stages of outfit, test and commissioning, while HMS Cardiff is being prepared to enter the water for the first time in 2024. Following steel cut in June 2021, HMS Belfast continues steelwork construction, while the initial unit construction for HMS Birmingham began in April and is well underway.”

BAE shipbuilding academy takes shape in Glasgow

On the new shipbuilding hall, the report states:

“We continue investing in our people and facilities to better enable us to deliver on our customer commitments and secure the long-term future for complex shipbuilding in Glasgow. Construction of a new ship assembly hall in Govan is well underway, and the new Applied Shipbuilding Academy in Scotstoun is planned to open in 2024.”

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George has a degree in Cyber Security from Glasgow Caledonian University and has a keen interest in naval and cyber security matters and has appeared on national radio and television to discuss current events. George is on Twitter at @geoallison
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Paul42
Paul42 (@guest_825128)
4 days ago

We keep hearing she’s due to enter the water this year! They really need to get a move on and speed up the build times on these ships!

Jon
Jon (@guest_825134)
4 days ago
Reply to  Paul42

We had this news in February, so I’m not sure what prompted the article. However, it’s only been 18 months since Glasgow floated off, and Cardiff was started two years after Glasgow. Anything before December represents a speeding up.

It’s Venturer we need to pick up the pace.

Last edited 4 days ago by Jon
Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke (@guest_825141)
4 days ago
Reply to  Jon

Confirming the timeline…..that COVID slippage has been recovered?

Jon
Jon (@guest_825161)
4 days ago

Perhaps, but what source is the confirmation? All references in the article are to the accounts being published, which was what prompted the February article. I drew three tarot cards which didn’t seem to want to discuss Cardiff specifically but told me all will be very well in the end with the overall build schedules at Govan. The Star, which is a card of hope and positivity. The eight pointed star speaks of the direction and focus towards a goal. Also renewed optimism and faith after hardship. The three of pentacles, Pentacles are the suit of business, health and wealth.… Read more »

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke (@guest_825167)
4 days ago
Reply to  Jon

George being invited there for an eyeball?

As he has been invited a few times he should be able to guesstimate the progress level?

I’m afraid my ball has gone cloudy and I didn’t check the tea leaves….

Spyinthesky
Spyinthesky (@guest_825359)
3 days ago
Reply to  Jon

Geez that was a long drawn out ‘joke’, Birmingham will be ready to float sooner than reading all of that.

Jon
Jon (@guest_825472)
3 days ago
Reply to  Spyinthesky

The Tarot may have the last laugh.

ABCRodney
ABCRodney (@guest_825164)
4 days ago
Reply to  Jon

It will be interesting to see when Sheffield (no5) has 1st Steel cut ! So far it’s been pretty well a 2 year gap with Birmingham (no4) being the change over build between old and new process. BAe have been very Bullish about the efficiencies the new hall and steelwork facilities give them, now they have a chance to prove it. IMHO It will all come down to the need to keep continuity of work and that hinges on extra orders. If MOD orders more T26 or Norway does then it will have to speed up to a 12/15 month… Read more »

Meirion x
Meirion x (@guest_825274)
3 days ago
Reply to  Paul42

Hms Cardiff is due to be floated into the water in July or August.

Jon
Jon (@guest_825280)
3 days ago
Reply to  Meirion x

Navy Lookout had August in a tweet last month.

Last edited 3 days ago by Jon
Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke (@guest_825142)
4 days ago

Everyone talks about how UK MOD isn’t BAE’s largest customer anymore….

£58Bn pipeline.

T26, Astute, Successor are a very large % of that before getting anywhere near Typhoon or AUKUS…..before making shells flat out…..

ABCRodney
ABCRodney (@guest_825150)
4 days ago

U.K. MOD isn’t BAe’s single largest customer anymore that is now the US Department of Defence. I think it’s 6th biggest followed by a whole load of Chinese companies 🤷🏼‍♂️

Jonathan
Jonathan (@guest_825153)
4 days ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

when you say a whole load of Chinese companies…you can and should change that statement out for the Chinese communist party…all Chinese companies answer to the CCP no matter the seaming ownership model.

ABCRodney
ABCRodney (@guest_825501)
3 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

I just find it a bit odd that any are there at all.

Jonathan
Jonathan (@guest_825520)
3 days ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

Indeed,

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke (@guest_825160)
4 days ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

All I’m saying is that these orders are a very significant part of BAe’s order book.

ABCRodney
ABCRodney (@guest_825165)
4 days ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

6th biggest in US not U.K. just to clarify.

Spyinthesky
Spyinthesky (@guest_825361)
3 days ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

You can see where its future lies.

ABCRodney
ABCRodney (@guest_825499)
3 days ago
Reply to  Spyinthesky

It’s got its fingers in lots of Pies and is doing rather well in all of them ! So glad I bought some shares back in 2018 and I suspect they will keep going up for a few years yet.

Expat
Expat (@guest_825858)
1 day ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

There’s good capital growth in the shares but income from dividends is pretty low I think its around 2% ish so you can get more putting your money in the bank. So I hope the share price grows more, but watch out for capital gains tax if you eligible, thats likley to be a target for the next government!!! Could be good to crystalise some gains before the CGT rates go up. Market may dip post election whilst they wait for news from the new government so you may be able to sell some then jump back in a bit… Read more »

dc647
dc647 (@guest_825143)
4 days ago

Hopefully sooner than later, just incase the SNP remains in power because if they do they have promised independence, if she is floating be a lot easier to move her south of the border to complete so she can’t be held hostage by the SNP to gain better conditions….

Cj
Cj (@guest_825147)
4 days ago
Reply to  dc647

SNP have as much chance up here as the lib dems down there, no chance.

ABCRodney
ABCRodney (@guest_825151)
4 days ago
Reply to  dc647

Post GE the SNP representation in Westminster will probably be in single figures. It’s an odd paradox that FPTP results in X numbers of MPs but PR in XXX due to transferable votes.
But in either system SNP are in deep trouble, next May could just be a Bloodbath if a new U.K. Government can shake some life into the economy.

Last edited 4 days ago by ABCRodney
Jonathan
Jonathan (@guest_825173)
4 days ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

Yes one of the very interesting things about this election will be what the vote share and number of MPs will be for the smaller parties..it’s very possible we may see a political shift in the UK…we almost had it in 2010..but the lib dem leadership squander it on a gamble for a vote on PR that was to early (most people forget that the tuition fee “shot in the head” was to purchase a referendum on PR). But possible big political shifts we may see over the next five years as a result of this election. likely or possible… Read more »

Last edited 4 days ago by Jonathan
Frank62
Frank62 (@guest_825227)
4 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

The vote back in 2010 wasn’t actually for PR, but a terrible compromise AV. The Tories have been abysmal at most things, but they excelled at stitching up their LD partners.
I see Putin continues to threaten the west with nuclear or conventional strikes for beginning to permit use of western supplied weapons for strikes into Russia.
He wants UKR to only fight with both hands nehind its back, pinned down & tied to a chair so she can be beaten senseless. The shame of the west has been limiting UKR in defending herself, for far too long.

Jonathan
Jonathan (@guest_825258)
4 days ago
Reply to  Frank62

Yes I forgot it was AV, I still cannot believe the mistake the Lib Dem’s made.

Agree Russia Is going to keep sabre rattling..I thought the “we will supply other people with missiles to attack the west” was a bit desperate considering they are presently buying supplies or missiles from North Korea and Iran….and have been supply Iran with tec for a long time… what are they going to give the extremists anti ship ballistic missiles….they aready have them.

Expat
Expat (@guest_825873)
1 day ago
Reply to  Jonathan

I see reform are promising no income tax for NHS workers, thats quite a lot of extra cash in their hands. Cut NHS waiting lists to zero in two years Income tax exemption for front-line workers Tax relief on private healthcare and insurance Public inquiry into excess Covid deaths and vaccine harm Review of all NHS private contracts Adopt French-style healthcare system Couple of good things in there but not sure about the COVID enquiry, bit tin foil hat. You won’t see right wing politics feature anymore in the UK, the nation has switch massively to left of centre progressive… Read more »

Jonathan
Jonathan (@guest_825890)
1 day ago
Reply to  Expat

To be honest in not against some of the Reform healthcare ideas although I think they are a bit naive. The most important reform is that I agree the NHS needs to be funded by a European model as its more focused on getting the correct level of payment for what is purchased…instead of what we have at preset which is government deciding what they will pay..which is essentially impossible for any system to really work . So yes we should have a social insurance based system…but it does mean that as a nation we will pay 20-40% more per… Read more »

Jonno
Jonno (@guest_825243)
4 days ago

I am glad they are busy with the new Building Hall. The faster they build them the more efficient cost wise. I dont see how where they are going to assemble Belfast. Can they move it from the old build hall to the new or will they assemble it on the hard standing when Cardiff move out of the way? Seems like the best option. Then they could build the Norwegian ships in the old sheds while all the RN work is in the New Shed. 3 ships on build at once would be quite something. Then their might be… Read more »

Hugo
Hugo (@guest_825260)
4 days ago
Reply to  Jonno

I don’t think they’d have enough staff to have 3 going at once. And the current assembly method is very inefficient. Could probably go just as fast using the new hall to its full ability. But that’ll only happen if there’s guaranteed future orders.

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke (@guest_825360)
3 days ago
Reply to  Hugo

It is, probably, more hybrid.

Consolidation of ‘super blocks’ in the existing sheds then trundle them over to the new sheds…

ABCRodney
ABCRodney (@guest_825783)
1 day ago

I’ve studied the pictures till I’m blue in the face but I just don’t see enough space at the front of the Hall to trundle super blocks around.
Only way I can see it being done is by using the barge as a pivot, which might not be such a bad idea.
To be fair they should be able to get a fairly good drumbeat going 15 months sounds about right.

Frank62
Frank62 (@guest_825248)
4 days ago

OT I see Portsmouth HMS Warrior webcam is finally repaired & back running. Supposed to have been fixed April but out throughout May. Glad to have it back online.

Spyinthesky
Spyinthesky (@guest_825399)
3 days ago
Reply to  Frank62

Didn’t realise there was one, I will check that out as I have a loose family connection to it.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves (@guest_825287)
3 days ago

any updates available about venturers progress?

ABCRodney
ABCRodney (@guest_825503)
3 days ago
Reply to  Andy reeves

George was in the Rosyth hall a couple of weeks ago, but not allowed to take any pictures and he hasn’t posted anything about progress.
That’s not all that odd as he is a journalist and he is dependant on good will, so he may well be embargoed until Babcock say so. 🤞🏻

Steve Morley
Steve Morley (@guest_825473)
3 days ago

How long will it be in the water before it breaks down???

Jon
Jon (@guest_825529)
3 days ago
Reply to  Steve Morley

At least two years after floating off, because the the first thing they’ll do is send it back up the Clyde to Scotstoun for fitting out. It won’t go to shipbuilders’ trials before 2027 and it won’t be able to break down before that, at least not so as you’d notice. [Any sabotaged cabling notwithstanding.]

ABCRodney
ABCRodney (@guest_825700)
1 day ago
Reply to  Jon

The last builds were the T45 and their propulsion was put through full power tests whilst still in Drydock. They fitted paddle wheels instead of props and spun them up, it worked very well as they could de snag before Sea Trials. There are photos taken by BAe whilst they did it, just looks like the T45 was in a massive Jacuzzi.
Main issue was they couldn’t simulate hot and dry conditions 🤷🏼‍♂️

Jonno
Jonno (@guest_826178)
2 hours ago

This is an urgent no news alert. This is slow progress indeed.
When was Glasgow launched? My guess is its going to be 2 years follow on by the time Cardiff is launched. 20 years to get the whole class in the water. and not even all in commission. So they will be obsolete by then.