The Royal Air Force (RAF) has set the stage for a shift to air combat featuring advanced drones with the release of its ‘Autonomous Collaborative Platform Strategy’.

The document details a move towards an advanced fleet of combat drones.

The strategy states:

“Where appropriate, these platforms will team with other crewed and uncrewed AV across domains, add additional capacity to our current capability, and contribute to many key elements of the Air Operating Concept. By leveraging systems engineering advancements, new uncrewed aircraft can be dynamically developed, designed and produced in a manner that will make combat loss, whilst undesirable, acceptable.”

Looking towards a future just six years away, the RAF envisions a comprehensive integration of these platforms into its force structure. By 2030, ACPs are expected to become “an integral part of the RAF force structure, routinely operating in partnership with crewed platforms to deliver battle-winning military capability across multiple domains as part of a national or coalition force.”

The strategy recognises the significance of “technological advancements and operational risk tolerance” as the driving factors, committing to “continual experimentation and exacting QA ensuring that only the most effective capabilities are matured or kept in service.”

Three outcomes are pivotal to this strategy’s success. Firstly, it calls for the RAF to be equipped with state-of-the-art ACPs that align with the Defence’s strategic imperatives. Secondly, it demands the delivery of “organisational, operational and cultural changes required within the RAF to enable the disruptive effect of ACP.”

Lastly, it champions the creation of “an Industry and Government ecosystem to enable the rapid development, fielding and through-life support of innovative ACP capabilities.”

The strategy further elucidates the cross-domain roles ACP will fulfil, as “Figure 4 below uses the Air Power Model to identify where OA suggests ACP will best support air power roles in the future.” This integrated approach highlights the versatility of Tier 1 ACPs and the bespoke capabilities of Tier 2 ACPs across the spectrum of RAF operations.

Specifically, in the domains of Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance (ISR), and Attack, the strategy notes that “similar mission sets have been identified, and modular Tier 1 AVs could be readily adapted to the prevailing mission requirements.” Yet, it recognises that certain critical tasks will still require “a specialist, niche capability, potentially across both Tier 1 and Tier 2.”

The RAF say in a release:

“The Defence Drone Strategy provides the core reference baseline for the RAF ACP Portfolio ensuring coherence for the introduction of new developments in capability, supported by lessons learnt in our recent past and in current conflicts.

Advances in human-machine teaming, AI and other technologies mean that the world of uncrewed systems is rapidly advancing towards the use of autonomy. The war in Ukraine has also highlighted the rapid evolution of weapon systems and tactics. The ACP strategy sets out how the RAF intends to take advantage of this technology, working closely with the Royal Navy, British Army, across MoD, with industry, and our trusted partners and allies. This collaborative endeavour will pursue the best solutions for UK Defence, supported by UK industry, to find options with the correct cost-benefit analysis to augment our forces.

Using emerging technologies, ACP will undertake critical roles that complement and enhance the operational effects achieved by our current and future crewed aircraft, acting as a force multiplier. Implementation of this strategy will reduce risks to personnel and provide us with the opportunity and means to learn, develop and fight faster than our adversaries, whilst maintaining a keen eye on the legal and ethical considerations.”

Tom has spent the last 13 years working in the defence industry, specifically military and commercial shipbuilding. His work has taken him around Europe and the Far East, he is currently based in Scotland.
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Richard
Richard
15 days ago

It is desperately needed. I just hope it can be brought to fruition. I was extremely sceptical at Farmborough when they announced Tempest but it does now seem to be happening. The Japanese input is a game hanger.

John Clark
John Clark
15 days ago
Reply to  Richard

Re the high end loyal wingman. As much as I would like to see a home grown version, I hope we either buy a production matured Ghost Bat, manufactured in large quantities with a corresponding low price tag.

If one is developed as part of the tri national Tempest programme, it critically needs to be affordable and exportable.

Joe16
Joe16
15 days ago
Reply to  John Clark

Agreed, that and the MQ-25 for aerial refuelling- they are so far ahead in terms of development that I’m struggling to stick to my normal preference for domestic manufacture.
Our involvement with kitting out the Ukrainians with ‘Tier 1’ attack drones (both short and long range), ISR, etc. should put us in good stead to get a jump on large scale, low cost production of these items- which everyone is going to want.
The ‘Tier 2’ attrittable stuff is, presumably, somewhere between the two.

John Clark
John Clark
15 days ago
Reply to  Joe16

Spot on….

Jim
Jim
15 days ago
Reply to  Joe16

Considering the billions they pissed up the wall and they still don’t have a single jet powered drone in service and their best prospect is an Australian developed one. Not sure they are that far ahead. Letting air forces develop drones is the problem. Air forces are run by pilots who think like pilots and can’t look at any aerial system that doesn’t involve pilots. We moved from autonomous aircraft now to “loyal” wingman because we can’t possible have air combat without pilot in the loop. The worst possible compromise now is “optionally manned”, all the limitations of an autonomous… Read more »

Joe16
Joe16
15 days ago
Reply to  Jim

I can see a value in optionally manned for ground vehicles, potentially maritime too. But as soon as you’re needing a significant life support system, like an aircraft or a submarine, then the cost starts looking a bit pointless as you say. I have to admit, you’re viewing the work that Australia has put into the Ghostbat pretty harshly- there isn’t another system like it and a first is always going to be more expensive. The money they’ve just put in covers a larger manufacturing location too, so subsequent costs would likely come down. Ultimately, and depending on performance, if… Read more »

Jim
Jim
15 days ago
Reply to  Joe16

I think what Australia done with ghostbat is great, it’s just very expensive and it’s a Boeing product.

Spyinthesky
Spyinthesky
15 days ago
Reply to  Jim

One presumes the big question regarding cost is as to whether the US will take it on board. Will that be too big a step? Personally as this type of drone and derivatives will probably be the major new high end military product sector by the 30s it would be short sighted to forgo national or joint development of such platforms for a completely foreign derived system. Preferably we should do so within the Tempest program if we gain agreement with all parties, if not then clearly ghostbat would be high on consideration lists, but doing so might be a… Read more »

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
10 days ago
Reply to  Spyinthesky

How much money has b thrown at the dragonfire project? And we’ve still got no sign of a weapon that we could put into theatre.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
10 days ago
Reply to  Jim

And will take ages to produce per unit. Building squadrons of such platforms would cost billions.

Jonathan
Jonathan
15 days ago
Reply to  Jim

Yes optional manned is an insane way to go..the point of drones is that they can be attrition units..if it can be manned optionally it’s going to be insanely expensive…as it will need both the life support, cockpit, interfaces and controls for a pilot as well as everything needed to be an unmanned drone..that will make for an insanely expensive platform that would not be an attritional asset so making it pointless as a drone.

Spyinthesky
Spyinthesky
15 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

I would presume it would act as the ‘mother’ ship controlling associated loyal wingmen just if Ai is up to the job ( as I suspect it will be within ten years or so based on present progress) meaning in higher risk scenarios you don’t risk a pilot while only the associated drones take the true attrition risks. It arguably would mean the drones can be less complex and ‘intelligent’ while the mothership does most of that job and directs them. Yes it’s a half way house solution arguably but I don’t quite know what other solution can offer a… Read more »

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
10 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

And will sell be painfully slow to produce. The Cetus submarine is a plausible way to go warfare wise , as usual, as football fans sing. ‘its all gone quiet over there. Is there a clear plan? Naval iron air projects? What do we need first?

Spyinthesky
Spyinthesky
15 days ago
Reply to  Jim

I have some sympathy with that view but the problem is as technology stands at the moment optionally manned is the sensible concept the only other choice would be no manned at all which by the thirties might actually be the next solution but is anyone going to guarantee it at this stage and we can’t wait until we do. We at present have to plan to build a manned fighter so making it optionally manned is really just a useful bonus on the way to totally autonomous or remotely controlled.

simon alexander
simon alexander
15 days ago
Reply to  Jim

yup, never understood with and without pilot idea.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
10 days ago
Reply to  Jim

The individual cost for a platform at the forefront of. The technology will be massive even the British programmes already in development such as Mad Fox and the big Cetus submarine is costing £ millions.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
10 days ago
Reply to  Joe16

What’s all this tier one rubbish? We’re the only tier 1 nation left in the F 35 project, but we don’t appear important enough to get our order with any kind of priority.

Joe16
Joe16
10 days ago
Reply to  Andy reeves

I think we may be talking at cross purposes Andy; The military love of the term ‘Tier1’ means that we could be talking about our very best SF units, our status within the F-35 programme (I agree with you that there must be a Tier 1+ and Tier 1++ above us, if our treatment is anything to go by), or -as I was in my comment here- about the RAF’s new definition for small single use drones.

Enobob
Enobob
8 days ago
Reply to  Joe16

UK is the only Tier 1 member and this had us intimately involved in the conception, design and short list selection of the JSF and manufacture. The slow rate of production deliveries and integration of UK specific weapons is down to one thing and one thing only, MoD reluctance to spend money! There is no higher level than Tier 1 and no nation other than the US more involved in the F-35 at a higher level than the UK.

Joe16
Joe16
8 days ago
Reply to  Enobob

That may be true on paper. And I agree, the Tier 1 status has nothing to do with the slow rate of procurement and weapons integration. Delays to the overall programme is the main driver of that. But it’s Germany who benefitted from the spare manufacturing share created when Turkey was kicked out of the programme, and they aren’t even buying as many as us last time I checked. We didn’t even get a look in. Israel have their own bespoke stores and maintenance management system that is not subject to US oversight and, as I understand it, have unprecedented… Read more »

Jim
Jim
15 days ago
Reply to  John Clark

Australia just paid $400 million for 3 additional ghost bats so not sure what you’re thinking about low price tag.

It’s a Boeing product, Boeing can’t spell a project name unless it has billion in it.

And everything it touched for the past twenty years turned to s**t.

John Clark
John Clark
15 days ago
Reply to  Jim

Well Jim, it’s way down the development pathway and still in the pre production phase.

Costs at this point are still high, if it’s quantity ordered by both the Americans and the Australians, the unit price will drop like a stone.

I know you’re all about UK Plc Jim, nothing wrong with that, but let’s face facts, the UK orders things in such small numbers now that a national programme makes little sense from a financial perspective….

I’m all for something developed within the Tempest programme however.

Jim
Jim
15 days ago
Reply to  John Clark

Ghost bat is a Boeing product and Boeing only works cost +, they don’t have a reputation for dropping prices like a stone in any circumstances. Neither the US or Australia are anywhere near ordering it either.

It be cheaper and easier digging up Taranis than going with MQ28

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
10 days ago
Reply to  Jim

If it’s American it all about what number of dollars the likes of boing will get from it.

IKnowNothing
IKnowNothing
15 days ago
Reply to  Jim

But on the bright side, this is a Boeing product that doesn’t have any pressurised doors on it …

Jonathan
Jonathan
15 days ago
Reply to  IKnowNothing

Yes but will it do a full power dive into the ground Boeing special manoeuvre.

Netking
Netking
15 days ago
Reply to  Jim

It’s obviously expensive at this point as it’s still at the prototype stage. When you consider that the usaf plans to buy at least 1000 loyal wingman drones (Possible ghost bat or some other aircraft) the price will drop significantly for whichever is chosen. And yes they are far ahead. How long do you think it would take for the UK to progress through all the stages of research and development to get to where they are now? These things don’t just happen overnight.

Jim
Jim
15 days ago
Reply to  Netking

About the same stage Taranis was at ten years ago you mean?

Netking
Netking
15 days ago
Reply to  Jim

Are you confusing Taranis, a tech demonstrator( A very promising one) with the ghost bat, a semi-autonomous aircraft that is much further along in development and almost certain to go into production?

Jim
Jim
14 days ago
Reply to  Netking

No, taranis was a tech demonstrator and was autonomous, MQ28 is a tech demonstrator and also autonomous. Both cost a similar amount to produce both perform broadly similar roles and have similar capabilities.

I hope Australia moves forward onMQ28 but I’m doubt it will have US assistance as they have dozens of contractors getting in on the act and no one likes Boeing for anything at the moment.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
10 days ago
Reply to  Netking

Taranis looked like the future for the UK air and sea operations capabilities

DJ
DJ
14 days ago
Reply to  Jim

Jim, in the Ghost Bat world, no 1 is Boeing, no 2 is BAE. Taranis isn’t dead, it’s relocated, had a shape change & a lot more money thrown at it. The airframe is Boeing, the smarts is BAE. The smarts is the tricky bit. Get that right & you can build any airframe you like around it.

Patrick C
Patrick C
14 days ago
Reply to  Jim

at the same time Taranis was operating the Taranis sized X47-B on carriers. they’ve had the RQ-170 in service for probably 2 decades and the much larger more capable RQ-180 flying for a long time. Many of their drone programs are black projects but its obvious they are world leaders.

Jonathan
Jonathan
15 days ago
Reply to  Netking

Simply put if the UK can produce this product in the same timeframe for anything less that around 150% of the cost of a foreign product we should buy the British one.

Jonathan
Jonathan
15 days ago
Reply to  Jim

Agreed attritional drones are going to need to be well below the cost of a manned system..otherwise what’s the point….if the cost of an F35 is around $100 million…and ghost bat costing in at $130 million each they just don’t make sense…you cannot use them to increase mass at that cost..your just removing one life from the equation..which is a fine thing to do for single operations..but if your considering mass needed in a “long war” peer conflict it does not add up….the brutal truth is spending more money to save one life in a conflict that will claim hundreds… Read more »

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Jim
Jim
14 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

Remember when Kratos was banging on about XQ 58 costing $2million each, that lasted 5 minutes now they are $10 million each and will likely rise to $25 million once they get anywhere near being combat ready.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
10 days ago
Reply to  Jim

Yes and the British taxpayer has been thrown out as part of the projects

Spyinthesky
Spyinthesky
15 days ago
Reply to  John Clark

Was there to be an ‘or’ to that? The ‘either’ suggests it.

John Clark
John Clark
15 days ago
Reply to  Spyinthesky

Come again, as the actress said to the vicar…..

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
10 days ago
Reply to  John Clark

The taranus drone looked to be a good platform which could have been developed further than it was. Videos of it on it, looked. Very impressive.shame it’s not going to happen. Such a vehicle would have been a good option for carrier operations.

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ChariotRider
ChariotRider
15 days ago
Reply to  Richard

I just hope they see this strategy through to fruition. There have been a number of different initiatives in the past, technology demonstrators, studies, etc.. What we need now is a deployable capability. However, I expect that will require some serious expectation management if the timeframe of 6 years is to be achieved. The only way I can see that being done is if the services accept the concept of spiral development. For the Tier 2 ACP’s that would mean a basic, but useful, platform being introduced and a programmed set of capability enhancements being added as technologies develop and… Read more »

John
John
15 days ago

As long a Boeing are not in the equation? Fine.

JamesF
JamesF
15 days ago
Reply to  John

We need to be careful about kneejerk reactions to Boeing. We did that with BAe in the early 2000s and it got us Ajax instead of CV90 and Foxhound instead of RG35 and seriously degraded our industrial base. We need to learn how to negotiate better terms, not walk off in a huff.

Louis
Louis
15 days ago
Reply to  JamesF

Not buying Boeing will not harm our industrial base one bit. The Ajax allegory does not fit here, and if anything, Boeing would be GDUK, and BAE would be themselves.

Levi Goldsteinberg
Levi Goldsteinberg
15 days ago

I expect to see this shelved 18 months down the line in a typical MoD moment

Jim
Jim
15 days ago

Don’t worry, if you read carefully you will see that there is nothing to actually cancel.

This is just another excretion of the c**k wombles at the MOD, atleast in the past we use to generate a tech demonstrator then side line the project, now they just make up a six symbol diagram, pay Boston consulting £25 million and file it all in the MOD filling cabinet and act like we never had a drone program running for 25 years that’s never actually delivered a drone to the front lines.

Jim
Jim
15 days ago

“The Defence Drone Strategy provides the core reference baseline for the RAF ACP Portfolio ensuring coherence for the introduction of new developments in capability”

I’m really glad we got that sorted, I wonder how many millions it cost to achieve a “core reference baseline”

Any chance we can just go out and buy some f**king drones now or do we need 5 more studies to further establish a “core reference baseline”

Honestly who writes this s**t, I’m guessing it’s a combo of Boston Consulting and Deloitte and they probably got paid several million for it.

Ian
Ian
15 days ago
Reply to  Jim

They don’t do it for fun. I spend a lot of my time despairing of people who’ve bought some kit without proper consideration as to how they expect to integrate it with the wider systems they want to use, or even exactly what the use-case is. It is not as smart or cost-effective an attitude as you seem to believe.

Jim
Jim
15 days ago
Reply to  Ian

The MOD has been so careful about what kit to buy for autonomous jet powered Drones for the past twenty years that they did not buy any kit at all, not a single thing.

That’s the best way to make sure you made the best decision, just don’t make any decision at all and just keep having more studies.

Jon
Jon
15 days ago
Reply to  Jim

Could you expand on which autonomous jet-powered drones you think MOD should have bought over the last 20 years? There aren’t all that many autonomous jet-powered drones, as opposed to RPAS. However, the RN has bought Banshee Jet 80+, which has an autonomous mode.

Spyinthesky
Spyinthesky
14 days ago
Reply to  Jon

I agree it’s only the last 18 mths in Ukraine that any real world understanding of what is needed has really been focused. Things are transforming so quickly on an almost monthly basis in terms of autonomy generally that I have heard even knowledgable commentators in the business, saying the progress in Ai in particular was totally unforeseen even a couple years ago, so it’s not an easy task to solidify upon a platform towards the middle to top end unfortunately, even if I do agree with others, decisions will have to be made asap while making sure it is… Read more »

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Jim
Jim
14 days ago
Reply to  Spyinthesky

That’s strange, I remember watching a documentary on the F35 in 2001 where the pilot is pretty sure the US will never develop another manned aircraft and everything else will be unmanned drones flown by AI. Here we are 23 years later and unclue Sam just cut a cheque for $12 billion for a manned fighter that can be “optionally manned” and is gearing up to spend a few hundred billion more on it. Actually until about 2015 the very definition of 6th Gen fighter was unmanned. Then LM marketing department got involved again. This change was seen decades ago,… Read more »

Jim
Jim
14 days ago
Reply to  Jon

Taranis would have been a very good start.

Cripes
Cripes
14 days ago
Reply to  Jon

Jon, what’s the difference between an autonomous jet-powered drone and a RPAS? Obviously jet-powered is one key difference, but aren’t our current UAVs – MQ9, Banshee and Watchkeeper – autonomous? I am a complete layman on UAVs! I can see it would be useful to have a jet-powered UAV for some types of missions, not least to keep up with the Tempest mother ship, but for most swarm attacks and close support roles, such as targeting enemy artillery and troop formations, would not larger numbers of cheaper, simpler, non-jet-powered drones be more useful? Could one take a basic drone like… Read more »

Peter S
Peter S
15 days ago

So many big words and pretty pictures just to say we need some drones. Pathetic waste of time and money.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
15 days ago

Please……JUST BUY SOMETHING and get it into service.
No more “informing decisions”
No more “intital gates”
No more concept studies grandstanded then dropped after millions spent.
BUY SOMETHING.

Rant over, apologies.

JOHN MELLING
JOHN MELLING
15 days ago

Why apologize for being correct😉
They treat it like a pick-and-mix, at the sweet shop
As you mentioned above we need to stop faffing about and buy something

Jim
Jim
15 days ago

Rant away, as a tax payer your earned it 😀

Armchair Admiral
Armchair Admiral
15 days ago

Exactly this. We have a fully functioning working drone in the shape of the Banshee. Ok, it’s not a super attack drone or anything fancy, but its a proven thing and in production. It is moderately stealthy (difficult to track) by all accounts, and presumably could be made a bit more stealthy without too much trouble. It does 400 mph and no doubt could have a better range. It should not be beyond the wit of man to weaponise it, or provide it with better electronics. Not cutting edge, but out there. Get some in the air and then faff… Read more »

Spyinthesky
Spyinthesky
14 days ago

Isn’t an updated version of the Banshee being tested on US test ranges currently? Read something recently but can’t remember the details.

Armchair Admiral
Armchair Admiral
14 days ago
Reply to  Spyinthesky

A version was developed for the usaf, the MQM 185B. It says it can go up to 30 000 feet and also sea,-skim.
There was one shot down/,crashed in Ukraine recently as well,with a modified tail, so someone has given them an upgrade.
Its having jet angines that gives it the edge…if thats not an obvious thing to say,
Over prop powered drones. 400 mph is a step above most of them. Although not up to loyal wingman standards. Which are…???
AA

Jon
Jon
15 days ago

According to a report by Shephard, Richard Knighton said Tier 1 should be operational by next year. “Our current position means that I think we can deliver an operational capability at Tier 1 in the next year,” Knighton said, adding that the fate of the other two tiers will be assessed in the next iteration of the Integrated Review and the next defence spending review. Shephard Media My only problem with this is that Banshee is a given example of Tier 1. So if it’s transferring a cheap drone from Navy to RAF, why won’t it be running this year?… Read more »

Last edited 15 days ago by Jon
Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
15 days ago
Reply to  Jon

Ah Jon, thanks for this. You’re always the go to guy here on Drones.
So how will a T1 like Banshee operate in practice when in RAF use? Dropped from another aircraft? It’s range must be be minimal compared to a larger fighter jet, so it can not accompany from the home field. With the RN the “airfield” can move, in the RAF it will be from a fixed base far from where the Banshee will be needed?

Jim
Jim
14 days ago

They will need to figure a way to launch banshee from the proximity of 5 star hotels if they want the RAF to adopt it on land 😀

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
14 days ago
Reply to  Jim

That’s easy. Just use the roof!

Marked
Marked
14 days ago

Agreed with every single word of that rant 👍

Geoff Roach
Geoff Roach
15 days ago

Yet another “looking at”. Wake me up when we say we’re ordering something.🙄

Farouk
Farouk
15 days ago

Slightly off topic but army recognition reported on Monday the following: Thales UK to double production of Martlet, NLAW and Starstreak missiles According to Challenges on March 22, 2024, the Thales Belfast facility, employing approximately 600 workers, is set to significantly increase the production of several missile types. These include the Lightweight Multirole Missile (LMM), also known in the British Army as the Martlet; the Starstreak surface-to-air missile; and the NLAW (Next Generation Light Anti-tank Weapon), designed by the Swedish company SAAB but manufactured solely at the Thales location.Alex Cresswell, the CEO of Thales UK, has confirmed the plan to… Read more »

Quentin D63
Quentin D63
15 days ago
Reply to  Farouk

Does anyone know if these new builds are “ER” or just the standard models? Range matters… Lol 😁

Farouk
Farouk
15 days ago
Reply to  Quentin D63

That’s a very interesting overall question, you’d think after handing over 6900 NLAWs, 1800starstreaks and 300 LMM, that a lot of feedback would have been generated allowing the Uk to tweak the weapons in question

Quentin D63
Quentin D63
15 days ago
Reply to  Farouk

“They” don’t have to tell us… but half more to double the range would be very handy.
OTT, just read on Janes that Leonardo are trying to sell the Wildcat to NZ. And I think to the Phillipines. Good luck for that!

farouk
farouk
15 days ago
Reply to  Quentin D63

Philippines has already purchased the Wildcat (2) which they received in 2019. Its a damn good helicopter

Quentin D63
Quentin D63
15 days ago
Reply to  farouk

Yes. I think with them expanding their naval fleet that there’s a request for some more helos. Up against the Seahawk though. Would be good for the UK helo industry to get a couple more orders.

Andrew D
Andrew D
15 days ago
Reply to  Quentin D63

He’s hoping 🇬🇧

Spyinthesky
Spyinthesky
14 days ago
Reply to  Quentin D63

Are there ER proposals or in development/production versions of these missiles then?

Quentin D63
Quentin D63
14 days ago
Reply to  Spyinthesky

Evening Spy, I have no idea, which was why I was asking. Just curious as it could be an opportune time for incorporating improvements such as extra range.

SailorBoy
SailorBoy
14 days ago
Reply to  Quentin D63

Speaking of extra range, would you be able to stick a Martlet/LMM on the front of the StarStreak booster? Then you’d get the LMM up to ~mach 2 before the motor even fired, with the martlet acting as a sustainer, a bit like the Pantsir missile. That is command guided, which I think would also be useful, as it allows the missile to lead the target and follow a ballistic arc, neither of which beam-riding LMM can do. For Boxer (almost certainly our next SHORAD platform), there’s just so much more space available than on Stormer that is seems a… Read more »

Quentin D63
Quentin D63
13 days ago
Reply to  SailorBoy

Evening SB, I love your creativity. I hope someone takes you up on it! 😁

SailorBoy
SailorBoy
13 days ago
Reply to  Quentin D63

You’re welcome
It probably helps being, I would assume, “significantly younger” than any of the other commenters on here (trust me), as well as not actually having direct experience of any of the issues.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
14 days ago
Reply to  Quentin D63

Same as you buy from Currys

Quentin D63
Quentin D63
13 days ago
Reply to  Andy reeves

“Currys”, is that a 🇬🇧 thing? Or, 🇮🇳 🥡?

Marked
Marked
14 days ago

Yet again… how much has been spent so far on numerous dead ends with nothing yet coming close to service?

Or will it just achieve the objective of pumping more of our money into the government favoured money pit of the day?

For once just get something f###ing useful into service fast in time for when it’s needed, rather than reacting to save face when body bags start arriving home!

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
14 days ago
Reply to  Marked

Millions of pounds on dad’s like motherships and lasers that never look like happening, ships that seem to have been in build forever ships like those echoes,which could do anything that a river can. It’s just a bloody mess

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
14 days ago

The explosion of drone warfare has led me to wonder what the navy is tweaking the mad fox drone to do.

Crabfat
Crabfat
14 days ago

In the centre of the graphic there is reference to ‘Combat SAR’. Does the RAF/Army have a dedicated CSAR system at present? Similar to the US military?

Patrick C
Patrick C
14 days ago
Reply to  Crabfat

the recently purchased MH-47Gs will fill that roll i imagine…

KevA
KevA
13 days ago

In 1965 the then Minister of Defence, one Dennis Healey cancelled our very advanced fighter and bomber development programs, stating that future aircraft will be unmanned and many RAF dreamers were behind him. Fast forward 60 years and the RAF dreamers are at it again. Unfortunately I doubt if I will be alive in 20 years time when the dreamers surface again and we are still at the stage of 1966. The RAF are very good at dreaming, they always have been.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
10 days ago

The UK must be at the forefront of developing this technology, there is no doubt that future of warfare will be with autonomous hardware and the place at the front of the queue will befit us militarily and with the export markets