US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and UK Defence Secretary John Healey met at the Pentagon on 6th March 2025 to discuss European security, NATOās role, and efforts to secure peace in Ukraine, according to the US Department of Defense (DOD).
Hegseth praised the UKās leadership in NATO, emphasising the increasing role of European nations in managing their own security following calls from President Donald Trump for allies to take greater responsibility.
“We are in the middle of a dynamic security environment where, [in Europe], President [Donald J.] Trump is calling on our European allies to take the lead, and you have done just that, sir,” Hegseth told Healey.
UKās Role in Supporting Ukraine
Hegseth highlighted Healeyās leadership in the Ukraine Defense Contact Group (UDCG), a multinational coalition coordinating military aid to Ukraine. Healey chaired the groupās most recent meeting, where Hegseth urged European nations to take a more active role in securing the continent.
“We want to work together to achieve peace and security in Europe by working to bring an end to the war in Ukraine, building sustainable deterrence on the continent, and then increasing our allied capabilities and interoperability,” Hegseth said.
Britainās Defence Spending Increase
Healey reaffirmed the UKās commitment to European security, pointing to Prime Minister Keir Starmerās recent announcement of the largest increase in British defence spending since the Cold War.
“You challenged us to step up in Ukraine, on defence spending [and] on European security, and I say to you that we have, we are, and we will further,” he told Hegseth.
He also stressed the importance of strengthening the UK-US defence partnership, stating:
“I’m here today to strengthen that defence and security bond between our two nations. It’s needed now more than ever in this new era that we must face together.”
US Policy on Ukraine: āOn Pause, Not Endedā
During a Q&A session, Hegseth addressed questions regarding US military aid to Ukraine, clarifying that while resupply efforts are currently paused, the administration remains committed to a negotiated path to peace.
“The president is [closely watching] precisely what the Ukrainians are saying and doing about committing to that peace process, and we’re very encouraged by the signs we’re seeing,” he said.
Hegseth also pushed back against suggestions that the US is aligning its stance on Ukraine with Russian narratives, emphasising that Trump is focused on ending the war.
“Our president is interested in peace,” Hegseth said. “And I can tell you, from being behind the scenes, that [Trump] is laser-focused on making that happen. And we’re closer today than we’ve ever been because of his leadership.”
While US arms deliveries to Ukraine remain uncertain, the UK has pledged continued support for Kyiv, positioning itself as a key NATO player in shaping Europeās military response and deterrence strategy.
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An empowered Russia stating claim to as much Ukraine land and doubling down on killing as many people as they can is shameful and Trump should be aware of his terrible actions. Blood all over his hands all in his attempts to remain important, powerful and the greatest Ego of our times.
At least 20 more civilians died today due to his Ego. That’s not counting the brave Fighters who must be feeling really betrayed.
Toxic America.
NATO is finished with the US as a member! He spelled out today the reasons he would NOT honour A5!
Donāt spend 2%
Not in the US interests
Basically repeated the claim everyone was sponging off the US so he doesnāt see the need to defend them.
The Americans are still useful in the NATO political set up but need to remove them from command structure.
Rather than removing them perhaps we should set up a command structure which doesn’t involve them. European Treaty Organisation (ETO). Could be the result. Or perhaps DCTO for Democratic Countries Treaty Organisation.
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Thatās the only positive about this, we now know we canāt rely on the US whereas before we deluded ourselves that we automatically could if push came to shove. Fact is those in the know have always said the US strategic nuclear unbrella was 95% mythical, only that tiny uncertainty was an obstruction to Russian expansionism but the bluff is now seen for what is and Russia once rearmed will inevitably exploit it unless certainly Europe forms a powerful bulwark to it including a variety of nuclear response potential far deeper than strategic weapons that Britain is limited to if we even have the power to exploit them. Even if US sanity returns which the deconstruction that Trump and Musk are attempting to make impossible even if elections persist, we can hardly have faith that the US will ever return to a predictable civilised system, its supposed separation of powers and the myth of checks and balances are now all seen to be controllable by the Executive āmonarchā that in reality only moral compliance held back in the past. Thatās all gone Presidents exercise more power than any uk Monarch since the fall of the Stuarts indeed probably the civil war.
So yes most of this talk from US lackeys is bull and cover for their own aims. Trump endlessly contradicts himself, the war in Ukraine must stop to save lives but days later stops intelligence that leads to more deaths, heās the President who wants to stop wars yet threatens war on Panama, Denmark, Canada and only yesterday Iran. Lies and truth become simply two sides of the same indistinguishable coin. āWe need Greenland because itās halfway between the US and Europeā is it to defend or invade Europe mind, months ago that question would have seemed ridiculous, but is it now, or will it be in a few years time? Itās almost impossible to see where this process ends, America could break up or could become hostile but at best will be an unreliable friend and unpredictable, half hearted at best and Russia and others will exploit that so letās not even count on it even if we go through the motions of US led NATO stays relevant as we use its structure to build a European defence strategy.
The question then becomes how does the US feel about a powerful military alliance that it doesnāt control and does its bidding. It might be a matter of careful what you wish for when leaders go the White House and donāt have to polish an ego driven turd.
Article 5 is commonly misunderstood, all it requires is support, not full military aid. By the letter of the article a strongly worded diplomatic letter would be considered as meeting article 5. The idea that all nato members full military support being provided when a smaller member was attached was always nonsense and proven when the US triggered it (as only nation to do so) and most nations gave token support. Whilst coincidentally kinda justifies the US position, if all members didn’t come to their aid why should they come to theirs, even if it in practice the US didn’t need the aid and who knows what would have happened if they did.
Well they DID ask for help by invoking A5 themselves didnt they and look where that got us?
European troops as well as US died in that fight but hay ho thatās quickly forgotten because it doesnāt suit the narrative from the clown in the WH!
But not all NATO members delivered troops and most only delivered token numbers but get your point
While you are right about article 5 always being whatever each member defined it to be rather than automatic full military support your commentary on post 9/11 is hardly fair. It was ridiculous for the US to initiate Article 5 for that it was a terrorist attack (even if on a large scale), not an attack as previously presumed as an attack by a hostile nation or entity invading a member Country and thus endangering its very independence. 9/11 was always a very odd use of it and I remember the confusion at the time. What were members actually supposed to do to help the US, no one had expected that responding to article 5 meant you invade another Country, NATO is a defensive organisation after all and that is emphasised endlessly in the Ukraine war. So this was the US as āheadmasterā dictating to the kids what their duty was when no one had ever been told that was their duty up to that point. What help were most of the members supposed to offer? Send soldiers to man Bea heās in case the terrorists stormed the beaches? Iām sure if there was any intelligence they could provide they did but what more were they supposed to offer? If Britain initiated Article 5 after a terrorist attack and call on members help us invade a Country who would have done so? Geez the US and Europe hardly showed any interest when our perceived enemy Russia sent agents to murder British citizens certainly till they were kicked in the ass a bit and shamed, even then it was half hearted despite these agents being found to have targeted European institutions later. Certainly not the US so your conclusion is totally unfair. If the US was invaded and the US seems to forget that Alaska is in-fact very vulnerable (the Japanese held islands there for months) certainly in the decades to come if Russia/China get serious, and had the US not started dismantling NATO members would be there supporting them, especially Canada, perhaps we deserve the same consideration.
But it’s the only time it was triggered so sample of one to judge response. All it really demonstrates is member nations will do what is in their own interests, so any eastern European nation needs to pray it is in the other members political interest to help them.
Steve, token support? I thought nearly all ENATO sent troops to Afghanistan?
Jacko, Russia was very slowly moving forward but when DJT ended satellite Intel, the Russian forces advanced more quickly. Will Pete, and Old Donnie restore the Intel!?
America is not toxic. Trumpolini is toxic.
Problem is Trumpolini is seriously trying to make it very difficult to reverse by gutting and replacing where required all the levels of Govt, Federal, State and local. It will take any new Govt its whole term just to remotely reverse that MAGA operators will be there at every level, the DofJ will be very difficult to return to its true role as all those sacked will have new jobs and most reluctant to return to former roles while new recruits will take years to restore true fairness to it. Re gutting it will also be jumped on by MAGA as a coup to its followers when in reality it would be restoring justice. Jeez the Head honcho at the DofJ someone not qualified for the job has just threatened the University of Georgetown to prove there is no DEI teaching and that if there is none of their Alumni will be employed. That is blatantly against the Constitution where Govt has no right to dictate what they teach indeed it should lead to disbarment of and personal legal responsibility for its breach by the Attorney General but doesnāt seem to be stopping him trying it on so far. A big test ahead.
John, Trump and Maga and Middle America are one and the same.
I think there is more nuance than that. Just before the oval office bust up, I was watching an American pollster talking about public opinion. A majority agree with Trump’s aims (cutting waste , corruption, woke, & securing the border), but they do not always approve of the way he goes about it. Trump has 40% hardcore support. The rest is floating & could ditch him if tariffs raise the cost of living & cut jobs.
But do we have to put up with it?
I have been looking at the figures and think Ukraine has had about $240billion in aid. That is $117B from the USA and $123B from others. So could we cover that?
The USA figure is $39B a year. First remember that the USA and the UK have given the highest % in military aid which is exaggerated as lots has been stock about to become unusable that we would have had to fire off in training or pay to dispose of. That consideration reduces the other figure a bit but the USA figure by more.
Then on top of aid there is taking in Ukrainian refugees. The USA took just over 200k; The UK about 40k; The EU about 8.5 million. If you put any reasonable value on that then The USA has only given about 40% of the support. The others would have to increase support by 2/3rds to cover that. In the UK’s case that is about 0.3% of GDP. That could be cheap to ruin our only immediate military threat and of course the Russian assets we hold are approx $220B which would cover it for almost six years.
Then there are the details of what equipment to give under the military part of the aid. There will be some gaps we would struggle to cover in the short term but the Ukrainians are flexible and we can just give more of other things. They will adapt and keep fighting.
While it is harder without the USA they are not indispensable.
Chris, you underplay the UKs contribution. We sent in-service vehicles, including stripping out nearly all our 155mm SP artillery. The NLAWs were all newly manufactured.
The artillery sent was old. We have been faffing around about its replacement for far too long.
The NLAW has been in production since 2009. Does anyone know what it’s ‘shelf life’ is?
Ignoring little details what did you think of the main point? If we want to help Ukraine in the current negotiations we have to make continuing the fight possible.
Chris, the artillery we sent was old but very good and still in-service so not Obsolete; we sent so much we have virtually nil left. Hardly tokenism, especially combined with everything else we have sent.
Main point – very true. The only way we can help Ukraine is to continue supplying equipment, munitions and other aid. We can also try to intercede with Trump to steer him to a more correct and moral approach and to stop echoing Russias line, to resume practical support for Ukraine etc. We may not succeeed but we should try. We should also co-lead the European peace proposals with France.
It’s a absolute disgrace what Trump is allowing to happen. What idiocy, even betrayal, allowing Putin to take evenfurther advantage. Have they both forgotten this is Ukrainian sovereign territory? Putin wants land, Asov waterfront access and minerals, then try to landlock Ukraine and slowly strangle and swallow them up. And calling Zelenskky a dictator, not interested in peace, jeeze, the truth speaks for itself. He’s got a war going on in his front garden! The whole world is watching Trump and Putin’s behaviour, neither of them are great themselves at peace making, more “piece taking”!
We never going to see the end of these appearences and articles, are we? The UK ans US security chiefs holding each others… hands, HANDS, you filthy buggers! The damage is done, just learn to deal with it.
What a pair of clowns fiddling while Rome or rather Kyiv burns. There is no peace deal, just Trump trying to steal off Ukraine. He is clearly siding with Moscow and we might as well accept that the US is now an enemy to the UK and Europe just the same as Russia, China etc. Starmer is clearly as wrapped up in hubris as Blair was. Why is that clown Lord Sidwell talking about British troops having commit to Ukraine for decades? What troops, we couldn’t patrol a tiny fraction of the dividing line even if there were a peace deal which there isn’t.
Putin has remained incredibly Silent…. just sitting back, Issuing orders, rubbing his hands in Glee. Taking every opportunity given by Trump to grab as much land and kill as many people as possible.
Has there ever been a worse betrayal of lives in recent history ?
Hitler should have been stopped way way before he gained power. These two seem to be a bigger threat….. where the hell is the World heading now ?
Putin has had alot to say, your media reporting on it or not I do not know, bur it makes little difference, west does not listen anyway.
Out of curiosity, how is Trump giving us opportunities to take land? uk/eu/us has had 3 years but you try to put all blame on Trump for your own failures
Like a moth to the flame !
Dictatorship media believers are so gullible.
For the record, personally, I have no real faith in any UK government.
And as you asked, because Trump has given your beloved god the green light to throw all he has at Ukraine to grab as much of it as he possibly can. Hope you can enjoy all the additional death and destruction, you seem to lap it up whoever you actually are.
Saw Bul.
The U.S. is not the enemy of the Uk, thatās plainly not the case and did anyone say the UK would be policing the line between Russia and Ukrianeā¦no they did not.
Thatās the reality, I guess due to past gutting of defence and European nativity for at least 20 years the only excuse for this BS now is to cover the developing mess as much as possible while we get our collective act together. Geez if any of this is actually believed anywhere in uk or Europe are in the deepest of shite. The US thinks itās immune it will increasingly find its security is far from secure and without friends itās assuredly so. Even United itās a dangerous future.
Sport, Starmer is using diplomacy…and very effectively.
Many threads to a proxy war. Research US Aid for a start and the “missing billions”. I will reiterate, corruption rules. Two guys I know left their “Legion” because they could not deal with the fact that crates of M16’s, thousands of rounds of ammunition just disappeared in the dark on the backs of trucks. Whilst they were issued Soviet made AK’s. Yes, people die and needlessly. It has gone on too long. All we see is Trump saying “enough”. Yet he is lambasted everywhere. Do not forget this war makes fat profits for many, so they have a vested interest in it not ending. When western weapons start turning up in terrorists hands? Ask yourselves some serious questions. Finally? The main obstacle to even a ceasefire is Zelensky.
What a load of bollocks! The only obstacle to peace is pootin he can stop this war NOW with a simple phone callš¤¬
Spouting all your crap is not going to alter the facts of who started this madness is it?
Oh deary deary me. lol. Zelensky is not actually alone, he has the entire Country and It’s population trying to keep themselves alive against the entire Russian onslaught.
Are you seriously that stupid ?
Do you actually think this country wants to be taken over ?
Do you know how many lives are being cut short to prevent this ?
Do you even Care ?
John, what has happened in your life to get you to the point where you believe utter bullshit and Russian talking points? If you need a chat, there is plenty of help out there. I know loads of people like you who have a miserable existence and soak up all the bullshit that floats around.
do you realize that “aid money” actually never leaves the US? the US govt. pays US farmers for goods and US defence companies for hardware and then those goods are shipped to Ukraine.
so if billions of dollars are missing as you claim (without evidence) it is probably in the US
Also all the official independent investigations have demonstrated no evidence of waste.
Patently not true. The USA has paid billions into ukraines pension funds and paid directly to fix their power grid. That involves purchases almost exclusively from other former USSR states.
The missing billions were a diplomatic answer to the FSB talking point about corruption because they never existed and it’s rude to call out the liar in chief when you depend on US munitions.
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Double counting the DoD weapons sustainment budget to make the USA look good was an error of the previous administration.
Unfortunately the poorly educated don’t know this so imagine that more money was spent.
The weapons sustainment is replacing the time expired weapons in USA inventory so American jobs profits and taxes. So those billions cannot be in Ukraine as they never left USA.
The time expired weapons cost money to dispose safely, saved by sending them to Ukraine.
Any evidence or just tinfoil hat hatred towards a nation trying to defend itself against an invader.
I wonder if this John lives in Milton Keynes, like a previous infamous Putin propagandistā¦
I thought the MK stood for Moscow Kremlin.
Are you still in MK?
Trump is not remotely interested in a peaceful resolution to the Russian war against Ukraine. All he really wants to do is humiliate Zelenskyy and extract as much leverage from Ukraine as possible due to his childish sense of vengeance and grievance over Zelenskyy not allowing himself to be played by Trump in 2019 when he tried to link military aid to information on Hunter Biden. His actions so far have been to Putin’s benefit, he is enabling him militarily, politically and diplomatically. It is a shameful betrayal of a country, of allies and it’s own values.
Of course his not, there was a peace conference attended by over 190 countries and Russia didn’t turn up. I have no idea what leverage they have on trump but his talking nonsense about them wanting peace and won’t attack again.
And another thing….. What happened to Healey’s eyebrows … ?
Probably bet them on the US being reasonable.
Ha ha but I was actually referring to Denis !
Such a sad, sad, situation. Destroying centuries of bonds in a matter of days.
US is to stop participation of NATO exercises after 2025
Just read that. Also Trump is considering redeploying US forces in Germany to Hungary or just abandoning Europe entirely.
Seriously when is the UK government going to get serious about defence? 2.5% is not going to be anywhere near enough
What’s there to discuss? The offical position of the trump adminstration is the Ukraine has lost and Russia needs their support.
China must be laughing. It was highly unlikely that the US would get militarly involved if they attacked Taiwan but not it’s confirmed that US reassurances are worthless.
Trump is a chaos merchant and cannot be trusted. This is the new normal. The terrible thing is that Putin wins either way. Heās finally driven a wedge between the US and Europe.
A drunk, a cheating husband, and an accused sexual predator walk into a bar, and the bartender says,
“Table for one, Mr. Hegseth?”
Also apply to DJT
This situation is of our own making.
You don’t cut your military down to the bone, then expect to have lots of options when everything goes down the pan. Again – we learned nothing from history. Again – we find ourselves woefully ill equipped to help our allies.
What IS new, is our national reliance on the US, which we ought to be utterly ASHAMED of. Ukraine can’t even use UK BUILT weapons without US approval. What were we thinking?
we could have stopped this even with our current armed forces. Putin tested the water in 2014 with his little green men invasion of crimea, to see what NATO reaction would be, which was zip. If we or any other NATO member had help kicked them out, which wouldn’t have required a major deployment, the full war would not have happened. We then had a second chance when Russia started building troops up on the border, again if NATO had deployed forces under the banner of training, the war wouldn’t have happened.
If you give in to a bully they just keep taking more.
Quote by Keith Kellog, US special envoy for Ukraine and Russia.
āVery candidly, they brought it on themselves, the Ukrainians,ā Kellogg said as the veteran diplomats, academics, and journalists in the room recoiled in surprise.
Zelensky is stressed out. You donāt openly contradict the president of the United States on TV in the Oval office. Sad to say, Vance was right; contrition, gratitude and humility were the order of the day. Righteous indignation and being technically right were the wrong approach. My grandmother used to say, if you canāt say anything nice its usually better not to say anything at all.
Kellog is a disgrace then. Can’t believe a former General has not read military history. By analogy, he presumably thinks the US brought on the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.
Lets keep calm. Regardless of Trump being Putin’s stooge he’s only in for his 4 year term ( unlike Putin unfortunately). Then a good chance his successor will unwind all ths sillyness and get things back to normal.
I doubt it. The democrats hate European freeloading too. The first to publicly criticize the 2% was Obama. Trump is just the fall guy doing what they all wanted.
Right wing, left wing – all on the same bird
I don’t think the UK or Europe as a whole should be beholden to the USA for anything.
The UK needs to reinvest, rearm, re equip and prepare, we’ve got max 2-3 years before everything goes south.
2.5% isn’t anywhere near enough. 3% is likely not enough.
We need for es able to check an imperialistic state looking to expansion through conquest.
So more frigates, more subs, more aircraft, more attack helicopters and drones, more air defences, more tanks (or more accurately all our current tanks upgraded, every last one of them) a new IFV with a turret that can do drone defence/ SHORAD. The recent RC155 artillery contract is a start. Hopefully around 200 guns ordered.
A new batch of typhoon, more Poseidon MPAs, all 5 Wedgetails and an additional 5. Another batch of 36 F35Bs.
Gbad- Samp/T, land Ceptor, radar guided 40mm Bofors guns. Dragon fire or an equivalent direct energy weapons.
We shouldn’t be setting a percentage just a clear outline of what is needed to defend the UKs national interest, EEZ, offshore infrastructure and to help defend our allies.
European NATO with 600 million citizens should not be frightened or threatened by Russia with a GDP less than 10% of the EUs and a population of 150 million Vs EUs 600 million.
Once the EU rearms they will have a technological and quantitative edge over anything Russia can field
Agree
The only bits I would add are
1) MAD..we need to be able to show Russia we can destroy every major city thatās 500 warheads.
2) expeditionary capabilities..we need to be able to protect our interests in the south Atlantic, Africa and Indian Ocean regions.
And the US is no longer planning to participate in any military exercises in Europe. So to me thatās leading up to them leaving.
That is in two years timeā¦..that is a lot of sleepsā¦.now Iām unconvinced Trump thinks about anything [except, perhaps which p***y to grab] Iām certain he doesnāt understand anythingā¦..Iām also certain that he doesnāt carry thought forwards many days [if at all]. Further Iām certain that all his policy [canāt be plural?] is developed on X and Social āTruthā.
A 10 year old kid summarised Trump really well at a picnic today āit is just like arguing with a kidā.
Trump will be off arguing for a bigger box of LEGO, more fries or more TV time.
The cheeseburger eating surrender monkey.
Jonathan,
Agree that UK (and France) would be well advised to significantly increase inventories of deployed nuclear weapons. Some proportion of this increase can be accomplished by increasing number of warheads routinely carried on CASD patrols by Vanguard (and future Dreadnought) classes. The RN will relatively soon have the technical capability to deploy weapons aboard certain surface vessels and the eventual SSN-A class. Would strongly recommend RAF participation in operational plan, as well. A single point failure node should not be a design feature of an operations plan.
Yes the RN needs the full 144 warheads per boat.. that essentially means 432 warheads on 3 boats ( ones always in bits).
Essentially as long as the UK can get 2 boats to sea thatās 288 warheads.. also it would be possible to set a system to launch boat threes missiles while it was against the wall ( they did look at that as part of the Cold War deterrence).
Finally itās probably time to work with France on an air launched option, 100 air launched missiles would give another arm , maybe work to get ASMP on typhoon ( Germany may end up wanting that as well) then work with France on its new hypersonic nuclear missile for the 2030s.
If France has the same and Germany and Poland each have 100 air launched missiles Europe will have a nuclear deterrent that Russia could never convince itself that it could take.
Absolutely, an airborne option, intelligently cooperatively developed and possibly operated, need not require all the coin of the realm. USAF demonstrates a significant deterrent capability 24/7/365, w/ a small current fleet composed principally of 60+ yr. old bombers.
A relatively easy tactical nuke for the UK using existing bits, might be a Trident warhead minus the fusion boost, so 6.5 kilotons rather than 100 kilotons, packaged in a Paveway IV bomb body & using its guidance.
Mr. Bell,
Agree in principle, the UK should order more equipment. The real operational issue is securing additional funding. Will the UK be able to access any portion of the ā¬800Bn EU fund being created for additional defence expenditures? Alternatively, what proportion of the $300+Bn in sequestered RU Central Bank funds is controlled by HMG/BoE, and additionally, is a plan being developed to confiscate same? Hopefully, someone has been tasked w/ providing answers. Freedom express trains unfortunately rely upon a funding rail system. š¤š¤
The UK has just changed the rules on its national wealth fund, that was funding for clean energy but now defence companies can bid for the funds as well.. itās a lot of money around 35 billion in development funds UK defence companies can now dib into.
Unfortunately, that amount will barely serve as a down payment re required investment, however, any forward motion should be applauded…šš
To truly show the break up of the US Europe break up Rubio something of a turncoat Weasel from even last November was clearly embarrassed at being humiliated in the Oval Office by Trump and Vanceās antics, could he sink further into that sofa? As a result to try to compete and show he can beat vileas his masters he has now taken to insulting Poland and its defence Minister for daring to suggest that as it was paying for Starlink a doubt over its future provision hinted at by some US flunky meant that an alternative service may be needed. And of course mad Musk had to lay into him with his usual childish insults. The total lack of decency and self awareness on the part of the American Administration is mind blowing, how low can they sink while the sheep fight to gain the approval of the President, be it Trump or Musk from one day to the next. So any comment from any of the US apporachiks purporting to suggest mutual support or agreement needs to be taken with a dose of Musks Ketamine. To them we are just the useful idiots to be manipulated to help keep the Europeans relatively docile at least while it suits them.
Trump(finger) & Elon (odd job) Musk.