The Ministry of Defence has published a tender notice for the procurement and introduction into service of 36 harbour support vessels, including tug boats.
The services will be provided principally across HM Naval Bases at the Clyde, Devonport, Portsmouth, but also Glen Mallan, Loch Ewe, Loch Striven, and Campbeltown, and other areas in UK waters.
“Operation and maintenance of 82 UK Ministry of Defence owned vessels used for the provision of the services, under a Government Owned Contractor Operated (GOCO) agreement, ensuring availability of services on a 24/7/365 basis.
The specification for the services will include the following:
• Towage services to entitled vessels.
• HM Dockyard movements covered by duty & standby service.
• Passenger transportation.
• Stores & liquid transportation.
• Transport & store munitions.
• Waste services alongside, at anchor / mooring buoy.
• Tiers 1 & 2 Dockyard pollution response.
• Support military training, exercises, trials and operations (SMTE)
• Support to Emergencies.
• Additional maritime support
Delivery of a vessel replacement programme to the Royal Navy, for the procurement and introduction into service of, 36 Commercial off the Shelf (COTS) vessels (32 replacements and 4 new requirement vessels) on behalf of the UK MoD. Built and maintained to UK Flag and Class classification standards and introduced into service in accordance with an agreed Integrated Test Evaluation and Acceptance Plan. Responsibility for the identification of shipyard(s) that best meet the requirement in respect of design, delivery time and Value for Money (VfM). Disposal of redundant vessels will be the responsibility of the Defence Equipment Sales Authority (DESA).”
In addition to the vessels, the MoD will supply GFA for the provision of the Contract, including:
• spares and specialist equipment,
• oil pollution and control equipment,
• MoD owned intellectual property,
• occupation and use of Authority facilities/property (admin / workshops will be subject to separate leasing arrangements with the Defence Infrastructure Organisation (DIO),
• fuel for the vessels.
According to the document:
“In December 2022, the Royal Navy will take ownership of a fleet of vessels which currently provide In-Port towage, transportation of passengers, and harbour movements of commodities such as stores, ammunition, waste, fuel and other liquids for the UK Naval Bases in Devonport, Faslane and Portsmouth.
An estimated 37 vessels from the current fleet will require replacing from 2025 to ensure these critical services continue to be provided safely and effectively to the Royal Navy.
The vessels will be Government owned but contractor operated. Subject to approved funding, the replacement vessels will be purchased on behalf of the MOD, with it being the responsibility of the contractor to identify the shipyard(s) that best meet the requirement in respect of design, delivery time, and value for money.”
According to a Government statement:
“First published in 2017, the National Shipbuilding Strategy outlined ambitions to transform naval procurement, securing export and design contracts for British naval ships. Building on that success, this refresh outlines the government’s further ambitions to reinvigorate the whole British shipbuilding industry.
Over £4 billion of government investment will galvanise and support shipyards and suppliers across the UK, with new measures including better access to finance, vital skills-building, and funding for crucial research and development into greener vessels and infrastructure.
Designed in partnership with industry and delivered by the recently formed National Shipbuilding Office (NSO), the National Shipbuilding Strategy Refresh will also deliver a pipeline of more than 150 new naval and civil vessels for the UK Government and Devolved Administrations over the next 30 years. The vessels will include large warships, Border Force cutters, lighthouse vessels and the new National Flagship.”
I guess there’s no COTS vessels of UK origin? Perhaps an opportunity to build some under license and maximise UK equipment content.
I don’t know to be honest. I found the bit saying the contractor will pick the replacement vessels. Is that a good idea? So government pay and contractor gets to cosy up to ship yards. Perhaps this is the standard way of doing things. I really don’t know.
Was this always the plan when the ships were given to contractors, that they would run them and when needed replacements the government take ownership and pay for the new ones?
I believe that Damen might well be in the running to supply some/all of these vessels?
It means the proper equipment for the job will be sourced by the people who have to operate it. Rather than useless equipment being thrust upon the poor souls who have to try and make do. Believe me! Historically the MOD have procured some really overly expensive useless shit.
COTS could include existing designs. A trucking company orders a bunch of new trucks it is likely that at least some will need to roll down the production line.
The navy has been buying work boats for the autonomous vessel trials and the crew transfer boats as deployed on the carriers so we know that sort of thing is already designed and are appropriate for passenger roles. Also, H&W Appledore in Devon have small and medium commercial vessel experience, including at least one tug (Wikipedia) and dredgers so I would be surprised if H&F are not in the hunt for some of the work on this contract.
Cheers CR
funny name for a tug…
DOH! 😀
Where’s the money coming from Nigel to pay for it? Where’s the money going!
“Rishi Sunak has been accused of failing to act soon enough to save £11bn of taxpayers’ money that has been used to pay interest on government debt.
The National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR) said the losses stemmed from the chancellor’s failure to insure against interest rate rises.
It meant higher than necessary payments on £900bn of reserves created through the quantitative easing (QE) programme.
The Treasury said it was the Bank of England’s role to decide QE measures.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61754394
Meanwhile I saw joe Biden says he’s wiped something like 700b in first year off the USA deficit and on track for over a $1 trillion in the next. Is the U.K. performing badly compared to the world or is the USA just doing better than most just now?
I wouldn’t trust Joe Biden to tell me the time nevermind tell the truth on the economy.
surely its always bed time for Biden…
Not an answer
Every time I’ve seen joe Biden he has been well spoken and made a lot of sense. Yes he had the odd gaff but I prefer that, it shows he’s human. Should see the amount of times I get words muddled up in a week. Anyway what he said about the deficit is easy to check. He’s not a trump that just blurts out whatever he thinks is right.
I get some people don’t like certain politicians and that’s fine. For instance I think boris Johnston is a proven liar and just says what he thinks people want to hear. I don’t disagree with every thing he has done as leader. How much of it is actually him rather than people around him I don’t know. Or kier starmer seems like a robot and I still don’t know how his party would be different. I do know his main skill seems to be criticising anything anybody else does. Bit of a politicians role it seems. After critiquing it would be good if they said I would do this instead.
This is well worth a read
https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2022/06/10/sunaks-choice-to-support-the-banks-and-their-ill-gotten-gains-or-to-save-the-people-of-this-country-from-poverty/
So if the articles true then countries could just borrow indefinitely and there would be no poverty. I’m afraid its not the case never has been. Countries who just print cash effective end up with rampant inflation and higher levels of poverty, that been seen many times around the globe.
No, as a minimum you would need your own currency and central bank. Anyone with the euro would be out. And there are other constraints regarding employment and demand. I’m no expert.
Nicholas. You have to some extent think of money as a commodity, the more you print the lower its value. Whilst money can circulate within the UK you have to pay for imports like oil and gas for instance they’re globally priced. The reason we have high petrol prices is not because oil is at an all time high but oil is high and the pound is low, this is driving inflation. Previously our currency was at $2/£ when oil was high its now $1.24/£. During the pandemic we got away with borrowing for 2 reasons firstly everyone else was doing it secondly UK has some economic credibility. Start rampant borrowing the second point disappears.
Key reason why the uk should dispense with fossil fuels and move to a tidal and nuclear power driven economy. You could see this current crisis coming 25 years ago after all oil is what the gulf war was about.
we have great companies on the uk that can make us self sufficient in small scale salt matrox nuclear that will also produce hydrogen and I would put them out into the North Sea so they can produce water during quiet periods and use the rigs we have already. Not really needed, but takes away a lot of planning concerns from the nimby brigades.
once we have cheap energy and robotic factories the key variable to production will not be scale, but material costs and we need to start getting access to raw materials as urgently as possible before China has the world all wrapped up..
it’s not too late but boy, we need to be a bit more Victorian in terms of big ideas and crack on. We are being left behind with eac( passing day
Would incline to agree. Those victorian were largely industrialists and capitalist. The big ideas were required to get materials and goods to market.
However we still need economic credibility as oil and gas is only one import. We’ve always been an open trading nation I don’t see that changing and must be underpinned by a stable currency.
Agreed but I do think we are missing some obvious quick wins, such as making every lamppost a charging station and 5G repeater, after all we have electric plumbed almost everywhere. Same with one web, it’s a must, but we’ve already started selling our share off when we should be going all in…
stability is key for everything but the government has to get new revenue streams going, utilities are the place to do that, then they can control,a lot of the inflation currently occurring but make money in good times.
Yes. Thats the point of the model we have its actually capitalism socialist.
The idea should be capitalism generates value and therefore money. Part of that is taxed and reinvested in the economy with infrastructure being an obvious area that actually give a return on that money through productivity improvement. You need to have balanced taxation ie it needs to be worthwhile to be a capitalist (that’s made more complicated by other countries competing for investment and value creation) and businesses need to invest in RnD etc otherwise they’ll die as they become uncompetitive and die ending a revenue stream for the government. We also have another issue in the UK all the money earned goes into running the country there’s none left to invest, in fact we borrow to run the country.
Certainly its questionable if certain industries should have been privatised, some have a captive market so there’sno competition. I suspect the reason at the time was the state had a very poor track record of running industries and consumed tax revenue whilst no improvements were made, mostly they got worse year on year. Also as you see with headlines today media has a field day if government makes people redundant which is inevitable if your deploying new tech. Then you also have the unions which have there uses but also have a political agenda making it difficult for governments to make the required improvements. Unions also need members to be effective so are not big fans of automation as it will ultimately undermine there political power due to low membership. If you can remove these obstacles then government ownership makes sense and Infrastructure investments would go smoothly providing a return on money invested. The improvement in Infrastructure Then creates private investment as business can do things faster better win more business and growth. The model is not perfect but it works, even China embraced a form of capitalist socialism to grow. Globally its moved more people out of poverty than any other system
I’ll add I’m not suggesting removing unions they just need to be better aligned to the end game and not political, they need to focus on long term prosperity.
I believe in unions, but as you say they have not moved with the times. Certainly at me point unions held large pension pots and they should have used those to benefit their members and they didn’t.
I don’t trust HMG to manage anything tbh. But I do think a sovereign wealth fund and a model where HMG provides the base infra product and service companies the service is the way to go. The devil is in the detail here and the agreements etc have to be very good. In this context I think we already do a good job with rail, broadband and energy (although selling the national grid recently is a massive mistake imo).
for the chancellor, being able to control energy prices is a key lever, small nuclear and tidal pools would allow us to be self sufficient and cost effective.
as I say the race is on for natural resources and we need to up our game.
I like the sovereign wealth fund idea. It could be set parameters to operate within like productivity, investment returns, social benefit. Then left to manage within the parameters without intervention from the government of the day. Incidentally I think defence should be rum in the same way long term within a set of parameters.
We used to have golden share in companies, but played too straight a bat with the EU and gave them up.
I believe partnerships with a veto is the way to go, as it really needs to be something massive to use the veto if the day to day governance is right.
Align to strategic goals and theres a whole slew of British companies that would benefit starting with ARM and the microchip factory in wales.
we already have the beginnings of this with bbc, C4, Sheffield forge masters, One Web, some banks etc… time to formalise get some dividends that we can spend on the NHS or other public services. At the moment it’s last resort, but it could be strategic and revenue generating whilst improving the fabric f our society.
Nat west also. I think there sensitivity when these businesses cut jobs though, its something which society in general struggles with. The idea is the business streamlines makes more profits those profits get reinvested in the country so there’s a greater good. British public and media struggle with the concept imo.
I think it just has to be done through a sovereign wealth fund and we need to let managers manage. Ultimately no one goes to work wanting to lay people off, but everyone needs to understand that being busy is really good and quality is key to success. As a country we do seem to want to do as little as possible but expect amazing results… that needs to change
Yep. Not many like change even if the ens results are a better way of life.
OK how many lamposts in the UK. And if everyone plugged in at the same time ????? 5G has been proved to not be whats the word, SAFE. UK does not have the infrastructure for everyone to go electric vehicles. the entire Energy grid needs a upgrade to take the load.
You would have to dig up and replace every supply cable from the local Nuclear power station, which are yet to be even built.
and based on the UKs actual fossil fuel use compared to the rest of the world.
you would be committing this country to financial suicide and ruin,
white paper report on just electrifying the entire National railway network highlighted the need to replace the National Grid.
and with no fossil fuel, we have no steel to build electric cars, and there batteries that require us to use another natural element.
which the UK doesnt have.
its a great idea but were does the money come from
Hey Johan.
There is no evidence to suggest 5g is unsafe. It’s simply untrue.
As for national grid etc you are partially right it will cost a fortune. But make this country far more resilient. If we are closing down coal/gas/nuclear powered stations all the infrastructure to the grid is already there we just need to plug in the cables. The same for the North Sea. You do know we get electric from Norway?
The grid needs upgrading no matter what. Electricity usage will be at least x10 what it is now and 5g is also here to stay. They are just facts, now how do we meet the demand please
I would love to see you put a combined road/rail barrage across Morecambe Bay from Lancaster to Millom via Barrow.
Great Crested Newts would have nothing on the furore that would ensue.
And, when you think Levens Viaduct silted up the entrance to Ulverston Canal, what would happen to the dock interface gates at BAE.
PS, Millom only needs an off ramp 😉
the uk has already identified 12 area suitable for barriers, with the first proposal being the Welsh tidal barrier. Cost is circa £1bn and it produces about 10% of Hinckley point.
it may not be suitable for morecambe but could be very useful n some areas to provide energy and fight off coastal erosion whilst offering aqua culture and recreational opportunities.
the least we should do a build 1 and see how it goes, I mean for the cost of 10 of these HMG has just wasted the same amount on not managing their borrowings properly.
Oh please, the Cons are going to build a new nuclear power station every year, it must be true, PM Johnson said so.
Do you mean the Seven Barrier? You have to wonder what the Victorians would have done with our modern engineering prowess, don’t you?
I can’t name anyone who comes close to IK Brunel.
We talk about sustainability, the BBC yesterday highlighted the massive cost of building a dump under Sellafield, with more waste to come and we don’t build tidal barrages.
Swansea bay tidal lagoon.
as for sellafield the latest salt matrox nuclear reactors can use that waste material and decay it further.. why are we not going with this tech. Why build a mega expensive facility that isn’t needed anymore.
surely we have a decommissioned oil rig in the North Sea we can put one on and use the current infrastructure to get it to land, also I would have them paired with a desalination unit so they can produce water
the trillion we spent during covid, about 50% was wasted, the good that could have done is just mind blowing.
500bn would change this country into a world beater with net zero emissions and a much better society. It needs planning instead of this haphazard emergency spending.
Every country in the world wasted money during covid, so stop banging that drum as your still hear after the vaccine.
if your such a expert why are you not working for the industry
PISS AND WIND AND BIG MOUTH
you must heat your house when you breath out
Already been proved that the problem is Tides and coastlines Move.
Thames Flood Barrier is now in the wrong place,
also the selected places offer poor access to the grid.
Incredible amount of money to invest in those but I agree. We can already see the energy politics at play now.
There’s other nuances to this too. A few years ago Labour, in opposition, 2 years before an election announced they’d introduce an energy price cap and kept using rhetoric that energy suppliers were profiteering. Conservatives later would not deny they’d do the same. What happened? Energy companies stopped investing in renewables for 3 years as neither party would offer assurances that the level of cap wouldn’t cripple them. 3 years of a total cessation of investment. Never sure politicians understand business… that 3 years is hurting us now
I agree politicians don’t understand business. All businesses want certainty. You just have to look at how business rates is out of touch with the modern world.
I am a big believer in we should have a grand industrial strategy like the Koreans and focus on developing that capability
SMR nuclear is the key for me, unpressurised, uses waste material which we have loads of and produces hydrogen as a bi product, what is not to like. Canada is the biggest supporter of the UKs matrox energy says it all really..
the UK is great at doing trials and demonstrators, we need to get even better and follow through to reality.
poor leadership is all, with no real focus on the building blocks needed for us to succeed, that’s what the government should be concentrating on.
Stand in that circle and blame the person on the right, is ok till the person on your left points at you.
youre the reason this country failed YOU DID IT.
So we all blame you as you so quick to blame everyone else.
👍at last someone with some Economic sense, cheers Expat
That’s Richard Murphy. Not a credible commentator.
Well at least you have thought that through. I’m assuming you are better qualified the Prof. Murphy.
Nice try to make it about me.
The issue is Murphy’s lack of any credibility. He’s spent nearly 20 years destroying it.
Even in the linked piece he seems confused about QE, and *demanding* that interest rates be *cut* at a time of excess inflation?
Er…
For the subtlety of Murphy’s thought, have a look back at his GERS debacle, or consider his words on Referenda yesterday:
“Referenda are the tools of fascists.”
https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2022/06/09/its-not-just-the-monarchy-we-need-to-be-rid-of-we-need-total-electoral-reform/#comment-902985
Don’t tell Nicola…
And a delight.
Murphy on Monarchy: at 27 minutes
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001818h
Disagree with Murphy by all means but he, like you, is entitled to his opinion. His opinion on the economy are more informed than yours. Its not about absolutes, economic theory and practice changes regularly. Just because you don’t agree with him doesn’t mean he has no credibility. There is no right wrong answer with the monarchy for instance. Personally I don’t think the monarcy should be involved in any part of our democracy. Thats not right or wrong its just my position. Neither does it mean that I think the monarcy should be abolished.
The Queen has one thing in common with those deemed mentally incapable and Prisoners ,She does not have the privilege of the Vote in elections ,Herself and her Predecessors are seen as outside the realms of Elections , the only part of the democratic process that the Queen is engaged with is the Privy Council who advise her on articles such as bills that have been passed by the government of the day .She does not have the right too stop any processes that the government has dealt with those involved with the Privy Council are the primrminster members of the Cabinet, the Leader of the opposition 2 archbishops supreme Court judges and heads of British overseas territories its something that has been around since at least 1709
Apologies – I hadn’t spotted this reply.
Briefly, you seem to be trying to make this about me. Really – it isn’t. It’s about Murphy not having any credibility. He doesn’t need my help to make that happen; he’s managed it just fine on his own.
I stopped believing a word Murphy says without a separate trustworthy source more than a decade ago when he was misrepresenting accountancy 101 in order to attack companies for ‘avoiding tax’, when in fact it was just bringing forward tax losses from the year before – entirely legal, entirely normal.
The man is a crude, self-obsessed ignoramus. In the current coverage of the Bank of England it is not “I disagree with the BofE”, it is “the BofE are liars”.
If you insist in following Murphy, at some stage you will be very embarrassed.
And that’s me done, for this one.
He presenting an argument from a political perspective so his qualifications become fairly irrelevant. His argument is also ignoring the fact that Britain is part of a global economy. Ask your self if you can just borrow for your central bank why countries default. Like I said if the concept was credible every country in the world would be doing it and there would be no poverty. But in every case too much borrowing ends in more poverty.
No chance that’s true. The US has been posting $1trn deficits for years now, there’s no chance it has been reduced by 70% in one term without drastic public spending cuts. Cutting public spending is just the opposite of what Mr Biden has been doing
What Biden says is right. In 2021 the deficit was 2.8trillion. Down 380billion on 2020 deficit. 2022 should be down to $1trillion so cut by $1.45trillion.
Spending was up when Covid started and the deficit had been rising during the trump times.
The U.K. is reducing its monthly borrowings faster than any country in the G7.
That’s good to know. It’s the least that should be expected by a government. Balancing the books. Lowest earners spend in the country. Middle earners also spend and try to better there position, make money with money. The top earners/companies spend a bit but also hide wealth, buy stock back etc etc. That doesn’t help so much.
I’m not for cutting wildly. Certainly better to grow out than cut back. Some areas can have a trim but it has to be well thought through.
Biden is selling Bomb/Bullets/Bandages to the world like its always done, to build its country
Protective clothing worth £4bn bought early in the pandemic to stop NHS staff being infected with Covid is to be burned because it is unusable, a report has revealed.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jun/10/4bn-of-nhs-covid-ppe-to-be-burned-as-it-is-unusable-says-committee-report
No real surprises then 😡
Combined with the billions of pounds going up in flames for PPE that is not fit for purpose, track and trace 10’s of billions wasted, not chasing down those that fraudulently obtained money during covid or the dodgy VIP channel for deals during covid.
Imagine what could have been done with all of that wasted money for defence and in general the public good.
What would the headlines and opposition been if everyone had to be screened before being given money during Covid when no staff had been available to do it? Government offers but refuse’s to pay money out to however many tens of thousands of people.
PPE was a worldwide issue, numerous countries did the same in panic buying it was not just the UK. As usual most of the crap came from China and was miss sold, anything done to the companies in China for doing that? Nope.
Track and trace was a bit of a farce, it should have been implemented immediately using existing software on peoples smart phones at a fraction of the cost, but as usual that was a breach of peoples privacy and human rights. Some countries got this right and it worked very well but I dont know of any democracies which could or did put it in place.
Spot on.
What I find deeply disturbing is the lack of an NHS equipment strategy post covid, indeed we have gone backwards.
we need a uk industrial strategy that has on shore factories producing PPE as well as drugs and the testing Laboratories should have moved onto other work, not being wound down.
Surely we can use those massive NHS budgets to manufacture excellent kit for the UK and beyond, perhaps even using some of the foreign aid budget to provide UK goods, such as PPE, food, medicines and even containerised homes, and not money (50% should be in UK manufactured goods)
you really have no idea,
UK Bussiness was given the list of what was required and could they support or make these items.
much like the Dyson ventilators,
we don’t even make Percy Pigs in this country, Industry and the EU moving factories to eastern bloc countries with huge subsides, Landrover/Ford because labour is cheaper.
NHS Budget, so you want to take primary care money and make a apron with it, or a face mask.
global surge in PPE out stripped normal supplies and how do you find new sources.
Great idea that we only buy UK goods, what make is your lap top your phone or the car you drive.
are you living to this idea as i very much doubt it.
as currently there is not a single car Made in the UK 100%
Living is some sort of dream in a global world of industry
With respect, that’s very exaggerated,
The Ventilator Challenge programme went from a defined requirement to 14,000 ventilators having been manufactured within a period of 3 months in the UK.
Four designs were assessed as making the grade including the one from Dyson.
In the end the design which was manufactured was the Penlon ESO 2, which I think is a development of one used by paramedics – sensible as a risk reduction measure.
Companies involved included the likes of McLaren, RR and Airbus.
In the end we needed 14k not 25k as less invasive CPAP(?) systems were found to be as suitable for some cases.
Far from showing the weakness of UK manufacturing, it demonstrates the exact opposite. By July 4 months in we were exporting the surplus.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ventilator-challenge-hailed-a-success-as-uk-production-finishes
Guardian report including a bit on the mudslinging. One element which was cynically attacked (‘putting Brexit before breathing’) was that we did our own rather than working via the EU Joint Procurement Agreement.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/may/04/the-inside-story-of-the-uks-nhs-coronavirus-ventilator-challenge
There are far too many political mudslingers around (not suggesting you are one of them) who will weaponise anything to allow this kind of myth to pass uncorrected.
Oh that’s ok then, nothing to see here then, nothing that needs investigated for sheer incompetence or what looks more like blatant corruption.
They got some major stuff correct, vaccine development and rollout and furlough scheme. That doesn’t mean that it gives them a get out of jail card for everything else, especially excess deaths.
Tories must love the absence of proper scrutiny that people like you seem to want to hold them to, they rely on it and it helps keep them in power.
well if Labour had turned up at the last election and had given us a choice.
BUT THEY DIDNT, YOU LOST move on
wonder if you every made a mistake, and some one forgave you
called being a decent Human being, as you can bet the people trying to source PPE from non approved standards and the in amounts suitable for a countries needs.
not talking of popping to Boots for a box of masks, its a boat load.
So PPE was at a global premium and yes some is not fit for front line care, yet it is suitable for lesser needs.
track and trace didn’t exist, ask apple to design a app and they say its 3 years.
Track and Trace is now forming the back bone of the NHS system and is actually forming part of the booking and referral system.
if labour had any idea it would of been great, but your sad and Bitter of Brexet and covid and everything else. of Indref or the SNP. who lost £6b just like that
EU failed to deliver a single Ventilator from the 1000s it ordered and they went on a huge spaz over there late order of vaccines.
No country got it right, AS NO ONE HAD WITNISSED IT BEFORE
yet you need to blame someone, look in the mirror that sad twat is grinning at you
Gee what a sad rambling and incoherent response, or have you stuck out through Google translate..;0) The sad twat ,;0) in the mirror is absolutely wetting himself laughing at you.
“Imagine what could have been done with all of that wasted money for defence and in general the public good.”
So when it takes 6 weeks to get a PHONE CALL consultation (WTF is that!) with a GP, 3 months to get a Anaesthetist for an MRI scan of a 1 year old…What about the money going that the NHS …it is spaffing it up the wall.
Public bodies excel in one thing only, wasting and mismanaging public funds.
tbh, that’s a guilty till proven innocent headline. Expert are again looking back and claiming they would have done something different. We can all do that spout alternatives after the fact. If you want money then best pay off the national debt that would add £70b off available funds for MoD 🙂
We all have a Degree in Hindsight , and we should now be able too handle another Pandemic if one rears its head with all we have learnt from Covid 19 ‐’— if you forget your past your damned too repeat it
True right now it would be difficult to handle another pandemic tbh we weren’t in a good place going onto the last one. The irony is the money pumped into the world’s economy to keep business going is contributing to inflation. They all exited the pandemic ready to go creating a massive demand bubble and therefore inflation. Ukraine situation has added to the pain.
Thanks Expat ,going back to my old school days and Exonomics there’s 2 forms of inflation 1 Cost push inflation 2 Demand pull inflation , both will run rampant if People think that printing more money will cure the problem then they never had Economics in their curriculum when at School It’s not just the UK ,having differculties We’ve just got over a World pandemic and now we have the War in Ukraine I just wish that those people blaming the Government would look at the wider picture
Sunak – who’s family own more gold than the BoE – is an economic illiterate with a USA green card, so he can do a runner to California when the SHTF
We lost over £5billion to furlough fraudsters during the pandemic. Sunak has repeatedly refused to allow the City of London Fraud Squad access to the data. Lots of people are asking why?
Lets hope when Johnsonsky finaly goes, they pick someone other than Sunak to lead the party into oblivion at the next GE
Agree with all that, apart from the last bit, hope they disappear off to oblivion some time soon.
We certainly know how to waste money when we could make excellent use of it for our defence requirements.
AJAX MRA4 Warrior do we keep going, MOD is just as bad for waste
We know Johan.
They don’t have more gold.
He has way more financial credentials than you do.
He doesn’t have a green card.
It’s not the Fraud Squads job in the first instance.
Why are you trying to infer Johnson is Polish?
Off your meds I see…
Spot on, another of his rants
His Family may do – that finance wizard Brown got rid of most of ours.
How do you know.
He did/does have green card he convienitly didnt mention-like his wifes tax status -extremely dodgey
The Tories were told their COVID finance ‘policy’ was open to fraud before they introduced it (by the NAO I think?) – There was (alledgedy) £5 billion of fraud they dont want to trace -why not ?
Johnson is Russian-well open to fraternisation with them anyway the rich ones – not Polish ..and more tellingly an arsehole …as is Sunak (not Russian just an arsehole- an extremely rich one to boot.)
Sunak will (hopefully) never be PM when Johnson (hopefully) gets the bullet…or any time there after.
Stop being silly…
His family do not. Rich people don’t generally hoard like some Ernest Goldfinger, they may have holdings as part of a portfolio of investments but it will be far less that what is held for HMG at the BoE. (Of course we’d have even more but for the idiot Brown.)
He studied at an American University; where he met his wife. It made sense for him to apply for a Green Card then. He did not get it recently as you alleged for in case things go sideways. He’d completely forgotten it was still valid and cancelled it as soon as he was informed. (I’d completely forgotten I had a Railcard as I haven’t commuted since 2020 🤷🏻♂️)
To get funding to businesses in time to prevent them collapsing it meant that the usual due diligence had to be relaxed. If the usual checks had been made maybe there wouldn’t have been £5bn in fraud, but we’d probably have seen thousands of businesses go under and tens of millions made jobless. And the resulting bill to the government would have ended up being way more than £5bn.
(Come on, it’s not rocket science to work that out.)
You’re the one that keeps making Johnson Russian’ by adding “ski” on the end of his name. If you knew anything about Eastern Europeans you’d know that “ski” appears at the end of many Polish surnames and that “ova” appears at the end of Russians names. Sort of like “Johnson”, “Williamson”, etc having “son” on the end.
if Johnson is Russian as you claim, why has he given more weapons and munitions to Ukraine to fight Russia than any other leader? In fact, he was giving weapons to the Ukraine BEFORE anyone else, and before the Russians had invaded.
You expect us to believe these are the actions of a Russian stooge?…
Definitely off your meds…
£5b in Fraud on the Furlough Scheme and loans.
£6b Lost by the SNP of covid support.
Furlough scheme should of been based on your last years tax, then all those Self employed who only earnt 50p the years before would of got exactly what they deserved.
They have all proved to be rubbish, it comes from Universities send these clowns out we a degree in Politics. when they should be driving a van
Ah the rant if someone who didn’t make it to university, enough said.
the furlough scheme for the self employed was based on there tax return. hence why people who for example had taken a minimum wage and paid them selves in dividends didn’t get anything
LOL
Who do you vote for these days. You either have the now socialist Tory party or you can have the communist Labour party. We’re in a rock and a hard place. I think both parties are intent on destroying the UK piece by piece. One can only hope we get a party that believes in small government, fiscal prudence, defence, rigorous practical education, law and order and border control but I guess I’m asking for the impossible these days so I’ll spoil my ballot come the next election. The only constant in life is that all politicians lie all of the time – it doesn’t matter what part of the political spectrum.
Hi, Can you define “socialist” or “communist” for me. I’m damn sure neither is either.
Have to agree with the Furlough and loans offered, but you then have to question why these firms were not looked back into the tax returns.
but then staff were not in the office and Govt office networks dont like remote working.
The fraud squad are active in chasing cases where there is a chance of recovering money or assets.
Sunak has been torpedoed but his history, but you have to ask why someone with that wealth would want to work,
Boris for all his failings and that’s more to do with his party and its MPs who for 7 years torpedoed Mrs May.
No 10 is a huge warren of offices and meeting rooms, and yet of all the people who got fined only one person is being asked to quit his job.
Cummings Broke the law and yet, Starmer and Mumbles, who stated she wasn’t even at the beer and curry meeting, so in truth they lied
but it wont solve the shite we are in now.
Left wing think tank claims Rishi could have theoretically have saved £11bn if the Treasury did what they are claiming. Yeah, if they are so clever, why are they working there and not the Treasury, or Goldman Sachs, etc…
I’m sure we could all save money if we could utilise the benefit of hindsight and a time machine 🤷🏻♂️
I’m nominally centre right and even I think Rishi is a complete moron with little or no knowledge of how to manage an economy. He should have been fired after the pandemic.
😂😂
So they can’t highlight poor fInancial decisions by our supposedly financially astute chancellor …why not ?
He above anyone should have access to the best resources & data and if he is not held accountable who exactly should be.
The trouble with Public Office in the UK is too many people have ‘responsibilties’ they are happy to get paid for- but are then allowed to absolve themselves of any accountabilties- Nice work if you can get it.
“I’m sure we could all save money if we could utilise the benefit of hindsight and a time machine 🤷🏻♂️”
Fingers crossed eh!
Shock contraction of 0.3% for UK economy in April as CBI demands ‘vital actions’ to prevent recession
https://news.sky.com/story/shock-contraction-of-0-3-for-economy-in-april-as-cbi-demands-vital-actions-to-prevent-recession-12632893
Perhaps you should bother reading the articles you link to before posting? Let me help you with the relevant part:
“the contraction was mainly down to an pandemic-related anomaly which included the end of free COVID tests.”
I do and you are the last person I need help from.
Well if you read it you clearly didn’t understand it 😆
Just like a child Dern, try keeping up.
“the contraction was mainly down to an pandemic-related anomaly which included the end of free COVID tests.”
“The UK will be the worst-performing G7 economy next year with the cost of living crisis and tax increases projected to slow economic activity to a crawl, according to a new IMF forecast. The US, Japan, Germany, France, Italy and Canada are forecast to grow faster, according to the fund.
The new forecast undermines recent claims by Boris Johnson, prime minister, that the UK was the fastest growing G7 economy thanks to its successful vaccine programme and recovery from the coronavirus pandemic.
https://www.ft.com/content/4ac7e454-5a0c-4094-90af-fb54404d45a0
OK if you read this report and its from a financial expert and stemmed from the failure to offset the debt.
yet another report on the same subject from another Financial expert stated that as the debt was caused by the Bank Of England raising interest rates, the amounts of debt couldnt have been restructured without incurring a large amount of Risk.
so who do we believe, as its just one so called expert and a Media outlet with a agenda.
i am so bored of everyone looking for someone to blame, and chuck stones at, as with the 1st guy, would shit himself if he suddenly faced with a crisis.
like all these experts sucking £1000s in consultation fees, dig deep and this guy actually advises the government and his idea was rejected as a high risk.
so explains why he is bitter salty and very much a tosser.
So these contractors have just joined the RFA?
No. This is the fleet that used to be RMAS.
Ah, ok. Thx.
And we called them PAS boats Port Auxiliary Service Daniele
Morning mate. 👍
👍and a glorious sunny day too you
Chances of uk built vessels. Zero?
I’m sure there are some yards that can make these types of boats.
The fact the contractor gets to pick where to build has my brain in a pickle. Why would that be done.
Seems very odd as when Serco took over RAMS and loads of the boats needed replacing (this was part of the contract) they had them built by Damen or purchased 2nd hand
Slighty of post ,Just remembering the Lads of HMS Glamorgan 12 06 1982 I’m old now they are forever young ,another Pompey boat Gone but not forgotten