One of Kyiv’s fiercest international supporters, Britain has sent tens of thousands of anti-tank munitions, hundreds of missiles, and armoured fighting vehicles while also providing Ukrainian soldiers with training.
Speaking at the annual conference of the Conservative Party, Cleverly will say that the British were not “commentators” on world events but “players on the pitch”.
“This is why we stand shoulder to shoulder with those brave Ukrainians defending their homeland. And Britain has the strategic endurance to see them through to victory.
We will support them until this war is won. We will support them until their sovereignty is restored. We will never recognise the annexation of Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, or Crimea. They are Ukraine. And when Ukraine has won this war then we will support them as they rebuild their homes, their economy, and their society.”
Many already know that Britain is one of the largest donators of military aid to Ukraine in the world. This country has sent tens of thousands of anti-tank munitions and thousands of missiles, but that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Are we sending weapons in secret? We seem to be falling far behind the United States and some other countries? Does anybody here have inside information about what we are actually doing for them behind the scenes? Obviously don’t go into to much detail.
UK not falling behind anyone and is light years ahead compared to the support for Ukraine given by France, Italy and Spain ( and miles ahead of Germany). All of which imho are pathetic in this regard despite all their duplicity as per usual.
Check out the Kiel Institute reports etc.
Agreed. The French have solidified their reputations as cowards and appeasers, and the Germans aren’t much better. All this talk of Europe as a geopolitical entity, but when the trouble is in their back yard they twiddle their thumbs
Not at all mate, there’s more to support than just hardware and platforms, think training, intel, political support etc!
Why do you say that?? The USA is the world’s only superpower and has an economy nearly 10x larger than ours, so of course they will be ahead of us.
Have you seen George’s list of our contribution in all dimensions – we are streets ahead of everyone but the US.
There is a distinct possibility that the Ukrainians may eventually become a net exporter of Russian military hardware. Latest intelligence assessment released by UK stated probable capture of at least 440 MBTs and 650 other armored vehicles by Ukrainians from Mad Vlad and the slobbering Orcs, as well as great stockpiles of ammo. Did not realize previously that this tactic was feasible on such a scale. Imagine the consternation of senior Russian military leaders overseeing an unprovoked attack on a weaker neighbor, only to have said neighbor seize and utilize the armor as part of a successful counterattack. Textbooks will probably be written about this campaign in the future. 🤔🤣😂😁
Good points. It is not unusual for an army to use captured enemy equipment. The Germans used much of the equipment abandoned by our army at Dunkirk, but I don’t think this has been done at scale in more recent wars, excepting for the current war in Ukraine. The Ukrainian armed forces, especially the army, have now re-written the textbook of land warfare, in my eyes. I know too little about how their air force and navy/marines are doing.
Never knew Germans reused materiel seized after Dunkirk. Evidently, I’m not as careful a student of military history as I sometimes believe. 🤔😳
Yes, they used lots of captured kit. If you go on Quora, type in their search window “How much of the captured British equipment left at Dunkirk did the Germans convert to their own use?”
Someone reasonably intelligent once said, “Captains win engagements; Generals win battles; Logisticians win (or sometimes lose) wars.” Believe either UK or US has tossed the playbook to the Ukrainians. Russian reliance on rail networks for resupply is a weak link in logistics; Ukr capture of Izium facilitated recapture of Kharkiv region; liberation of Lyman is permitting gains in the Donbas; and damned whether they haven’t attacked the Kerch Strait Bridge to isolate Kherson. Someday, somebody is gonna write a book; I want an autographed copy. 🤔😳😉
Lots of good military logistics quotes here: https://www.universalcargo.com/top-10-logistics-quotes/
Rail has in the past greatly aided logistics for armies but they pose a weak link as you say. Our very own Lawrence of Arabia conducted some of the first special forces ops in the industrial age of warfare by blowing up Turkish railways in WW1. Smart, long range munitions now add to the burden of keeping rail networks safe from attack.
I also want that book!
Especially enjoyed Alexander the Great’s entry! 😂😁
Enjoyed both the book and film.
Which ‘other’ countries exactly?
After Afghanistan. Ukraine. How not to integrate Foreign and Defence policy to achieve success followed by how to. The most important thing for the future is that it is beyond bi partisan. Every major party is in support of what we’re doing and how we’re doing it. I just hope that the lessons are being learned and stored for use in future similar crisis. Yeah I know i’m being very optimistic.
I recently came across the fact that the UK had sold 400 Challenger 1 tanks to Jordan some 20 years ago and that, at the moment, the Jordanians are in the process of replacing them with hand-me-down Leclercs from foreign donors. They also have a significant number of old Chieftain MBTs in storage.
I wonder if some deal can be done? The Challengers ,at least, might compare favourably with the legacy Soviet tanks that are being used by both sides in this conflict.
It could make sense yes,the only obstacles would be the usual suspects – Logistics,Training and Ammunition supplies.
Yep the same traps the Orcs have fallen into!
Let us hope that Jordan agrees. UK could act as the middlemen, and tweak the CH and CR1s – but spares will be hard to find.
Perhaps they could stand up a few companies or a battalion’s worth and cannibalise the rest? I take it existing 120mm rounds are not backwards compatible with the Challenger 1’s main gun? I guess then it would depend on how much stock Jordan has.
Perhaps – very much up to Jordan to do this. I had not heard that current British 120mm rifled rounds are not backwards compatible with CR1 gun – CR1 and CR2 do have different guns – L11A5 and L30A1 – so maybe you are right.
I had heard though that Jordan was going to convert some or all of their CR1s and fit the unmanned Falcon turret.
I though I read some were that Jordan retro fitted there’s with smothbore 120mm guns. have to check that again
I assume MoD have popped on Amazon and ordered a resupply for all the stuff. Hope they do Prime.