Britain estimates that 450,000 Russian military personnel have been killed or wounded and over 10,000 Russian armoured vehicles have been destroyed in Ukraine.
John Healey MP, Shadow Secretary of State for Defence, asked the following:
- “To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, whether his Department has made an assessment of the number of personnel serving in the Russian armed forces in Ukraine who have (a) been killed in action, (b) been wounded and (c) deserted their posts since February 2022.”
- “To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, whether his Department has made an estimate of the number of mercenaries serving in Russian private military companies who have (a) been killed in action, (b) been wounded and (c) deserted their post since February 2022.”
- “To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, whether he has made an estimate of the number of Russian (a) main battle tanks, (b) armoured fighting vehicles, (c) fixed-wing aircrafts, (d) helicopters, (e) unmanned aerial vehicles, (f) ships, (g) artillery systems, (h) multiple-launch rocket systems and (i) other capabilities destroyed in Ukraine since 24 February 2022.”
Leo Docherty Minister of State, Minister for the Armed Forces, responded:
“We estimate that approximately 450,000 Russian military personnel have been killed or wounded, and tens of thousands more have already deserted since the start of the conflict. The number of personnel killed serving in Russian private military companies (PMCs) is not clear.
We also estimate that over 10,000 Russian armoured vehicles, including nearly 3,000 main battle tanks, 109 fixed wing aircraft, 136 helicopters, 346 unmanned aerial vehicles, 23 naval vessels of all classes, and over 1,500 artillery systems of all types have been destroyed, abandoned, or captured by Ukraine since the start of the conflict.”
Bit of an odd question when the stats are freely available and already out there🤔
This is a ‘Parliamentary Question’. These are ‘planted’ on willing M.P.’s (Kevan Jones, a Labour M.P. used to ask many. In this way the government, any government can put ‘what it knows’ (sic) on the record (Hansard). The procedures of Parliament are curious.
Are the numbers accurate?I hope they are ,putin does not care about his own people, his hero is stalin ,a murdered who bought nothing but terror to Russia, I wish to god a brave Russian soldier would put a bullet in his head,
I sincerely hope Putin stays in power. The next one might know what they are doing. Putin should have packed it in two years ago, claimed he had ‘brought Ukraine to its senses’ and parlayed a compromise peace.
Ukraine has had grievous losses also, but Russia’s are more significant seen in the cold blooded reality of power politics. Putin achieved the impossible by driving Sweden from centuries of neutrality (sic) into joining N.A.T.O. On top of which Finland joined! This alone is a foreign policy and strategic disaster for Russia. Now his army, air force and navy are being run into the ground by the day and Kyiv is a very long way away.
Barry it’s a fight a crazy man can’t win and your right mate 👍 👌 😉
Certainly the high tech capability of the Russian armed forces has been massively degraded, the material losses of helicopters, their best tanks, Sam systems etc, has steadily reduced them to almost Soviet style human wave and artillery barrages..
With such degradation of Russia’s military capability and the psychological impact on the Russian people of such losses for any future conflict, I think Russia will face an existential threat. If not from a civil war, then a threat that lies to the east not the west. Its likely that China has ambition to reclaim territory in Northeast Asia now part of the Russian Far East but historically formed part of Manchuria. With the relationship between Russia and China at best equivocal wouldn’t be surprised to see China take advantage of an increasingly weak Russia and move when the time is right. Might be a better option than risking a conflict over Taiwan.
i have been saying this for years, PLA will one day go north, its just a matter of time and when the time is right, The PLA will go forth, and no one will be able to stop them. we see they have all ready take parts of the world, not with gun boats but with cheap loans ,they no the loans will not be paid back.
The CCP has been moving people into border areas and purchasing farms, land on the Russian side of the border. Now if the CCP uses putin’s logic then it can invade to protect Chinese citizens.
the time is right when Russia starts falling apart at the seams, 1917 v2.0 style. Then, the Chinese will ‘have no other option but to prevent further chaos and humanitarian catastrophy as well as secure stability of nuclear arsenal’. By sending 10 million ‘volunteers’ protected by a ‘minimal’ number of ‘lightly armoured’ PLA troops, strictly for self-defence of course. Obviously ordinary Russians won’t be too happy, so a provisional, Russian-lead, China-supported government will be established, etc, etc 😉
I don’t know what’s worse on Polish-Belarussian border, incompetent Russians or competent Chinese…
Competent Chinese? I’ve seen no evidence that they’re training to the same standard as NATO or even Russia
We’ve got no real-life experience of Chinese competence, or lack of, but they’ve been able to copy, improve and scale up certain Western technologies and processes (housing market bubble, eh?), so I don’t see why they wouldn’t apply the same approach to warfare, both in terms of technology and strategy. And while I hear you about their training standards, it sounds not much different to what was being said about the Japanese imperial army ca 1940.
This all conveniently forgets that Russia has thousands of nuclear weapons that they would be justified in using on their own territory to repel an invasion.
The “346 unmanned aerial vehicles” that have been counted in this, are obviously not the total amount destroyed. Wondering what this number actually includes?
That number of drones is large drones. I don’t think it includes sheehad drones as they are counted somewhere else.
FPV and small battlefield drones come down in the thousands. Not sure they are even counted.
Thats a lot of people – more than twice the total number of our forces ?
And all for one mans ego/paranioa.
Exactly, one man. He is the only man who can stop the war immediately. Even reasonable peace talks may have a chance. The current stance of Ukraine must completely disarm, the current government be declared a Nazi terrorist organisation by all countries in the UN etc etc is ridiculous and impossible to work with.
Heading for half a million casualties is just insane.
If the numbers are accurate then Ukraine has been almost spot-on with reporting numbers since day one.
The Russians are now pressing female prisoners into non-frontline service as well.
‘The Russians are now pressing female prisoners into non-frontline service as well.’
Appalling. Will Stop the War protest about this? Will they f….
I will protest. Could have made lovely Russian brides for lonely Americans.
Lonely Chinese more like.
I bet Greenpeace won’t protest it either.. 🙄
Hopefully they’ve under estimated
Lives wasted but at the end of the day its the Russian way of war, wear their enemy down, It works and Ukraine can not win a military victory because of it. There will be a point when the number killed etc can not be hidden from the Russian people how ever they can not do much much the same way with Stalin and his mass murder and casulities during the Second World War.
Not sure what the answer is, Ukraine can get a stalemate but can not out right beat Russia.
This summer will decide the war one way or the other, but the out come is any ones guess, a waste of so many lives on both side.
We will see. It may get to a point where Russia has to withdraw as the pain is just too much for the population.
The effect this will have on Russias awful population demographic is another effect for future generations.
Putin doesn’t care as he’s old himself. He wants a legacy and has been eyeing up Ukraine since the early 2000s. His plans don’t stop at Ukraine either. Moldova next then anyone else be thinks he can get away with. If Belarus leaderships falls and they get a sniff of a non Russia loving leader Russia will be straight in there.
Putin wants a legacy, to be known as putin the great in the history books. He will do whatever it takes to get that so long as he can justify it in his head.
History used to have a way of bestowing nicknames on leaders. Whatever happened to that? Have we passed from the reign of Elizabeth the Abiding to Charles the Unfortunate? Who will Putin the Orc be succeded by?
Elizabeth was the great and must always be remembered as such
I think I would go with “dignified”….probably sums up her reign.
His head is full of cartoons, but yes lives to him do not matter,
The West should be making. Sure that those numbers are known by the population.then pressure WILL come into Putin and his weasels.
I’m not sure, there are examples of dictatorships where the population is controlled, indoctrinated and information censored that simple don’t fold until they are essentially completely destroyed…look at the Third Reich..7-8 million dead .and stalins ussr…27million..neither side gave up and walked away…one had to be essentially utterly destroyed…Japan lost 2-3 million and only folded after almost all of its key cities were shattered and it was the First Nation in history to face atomic weapons.
I don’t think military deaths will move Russia one jolt to be honest…after all most of the casualties are casualties and not deaths…so it’s probably only 50,000ish families that have suffered a death…that’s small in a nation of 150 million that’s profoundly controlled.
well, strictly speaking it’s (probably) fewer than 140m, quite a lot legged it, though at this scale it makes no difference, a few million up or down. They’re said to have up to 10m ‘mobilisation potential’, but given the current enthusiasm to fight, well below freezing, it’ll be interesting to see if there is a breaking point further down the road. They did break once in 1917, but didn’t during WW2. Disproportionately, deaths and injuries hit the bottom layers of their society, remains to be seen how much they can be pushed before they crack. We have a real chance to find out…
History shows us that people can tolerate casualties but they can’t stand being hungry or losing.
That’s probably got some truth in it.
True. Russia has a history of withdrawing if the price is too high and success eludes them after several years ie their eventual withdrawal from Afghanistan.
And the Russian way of war is an utter failure
It bet the Germans its held Ukraine from any more advances, costly but it just wears a side down. And Russia is advancing slowly but steady.
We can wax lyrical all we want regards Russian casualties , the simple fact Russia has mass , depth money and a leader willing to overlook such, which is why above Avdiivka and in front of Bakmut , the Russians are steadily advancing and taking ground at a steady rate on knots and are now looking at heading north from Ocheretyne (9 miles north of Avdiivka) and head 25 miles to link up with troops around Chasiv Yar (7 miles west of Bakmut) Also the Russians are adapting and learning . such as the Turtle tank modification which in layman’s terms is basically placing a upturned metal bath top around a tank in which to protect it from FPV drones and having it lead armoured columns and it appears to be very effective at protecting, then there’s the Glide bombs which Moscow has been using most effectively. Then there is how after 2 years of war, Moscow has increased ammunition production.
On all fronts the Ukrainians are falling back, thanks primarily to the Republicans. Yes, that impasse in congress has been broken, but the damage has been done. Even the major European nations have dragged their feet, yes, they have supplied a lot, but they have procrastinated every step of the way. Putin is currently on a high and the idiots in the west subscribe to this view that we should force Kyiv to seek peace and end this stupid war which according to a growing number of idiots is all NATOs fault and that actually Putin is a nice bloke who is simply defending Russia and that once we back down and apologise things will go back to normal.
Saying all that, it has now come out in the wash that the missile strike on the Crimean airfield on the 17th April was ATACMs (no mention of aircraft damage) and that the US supplied quite a substantial number of them, which if used against a certain bridge, could change everything. Also news just coming in, the Ukrainians targeted storage places in the Krasnodar Krai region, Russia overnight (The area to the east of the Kerch bridge) which were used to store the glide kits for the FAB bombs Moscow has been using to deadly effect . if you search on twitter
Kushchyovskaya
There’s video of firemen clearing up one site at the airfield there. Interestingly the strike was right in front of the control tower. Google maps shows over 50 combat aircraft parked there, so hopefully that strike alone will hurt Moscow.
It would have been interesting if Wagner had not ‘ bottled’ it and had made it to Moscow
We know Ukraine has pulled back substantial forces including armour. What we may be seeing is an operation drawing in Russian forces then counter attacking somewhere else.
Putin may be willing to dead soldiers and he may be able to produce more ammunition than the west however by the end of this year that won’t be the case but he can’t produce armoured vehicles at much if a rate and he whittled down all the old reserves.
They have adapted some tactics like glide bombs but these will become suicidal with F16 in the air and additional patriots. Russia can barely produce any aircraft much less absorb these losses and when aircraft like strategic bombers are lost for the Russians that an irreplaceable asset for them.
The Lundendorff Offensive 1918 Jim. My thought too.
I agree unless the west commits massive levels of aid with almost no delays as they are needed Ukraine will be forced to terms…infact I’m not sure if it’s not to late..we know that 31,000 Ukrainian solders have been killed vs around 50,000 Russias…so if the Ukrainians are suffering a 1-5 death vs wounded ratio then they have 150,000 casualties vs the Russia 450,000…which unfortunately means in regards to attrition of population warfare Russia is winning out due to having 3 times the casualties but around 4 times the population.
The other issue people are forgetting is that the war is essentially destroying Ukraine as a nation…infrastructure, manufacturing, food production, resources ect are all being destroyed…Russias infrastructure is essentially untouched and growing ( Russia produces 90 MBTs per month…Ukraine is dependent on donated MBTs)….
Unfortunately the only way a nation with one tenth of the economy and one fourth the population was ever going to win a war was to attack the enemies infrastructure and use deep battle..( after all if the west was fighting Russia it would have smashed Russias infrastructure as it did Iraqs)…or with massive levels of ever flowing aid so it had more shells and equipment than the larger enemy….
I fear all the west has really done by drip feeding equipment so Ukraine does not loss is..1) look weak , 2) elongate the pain Ukraine is suffering, 3) extend the damage done 4) strengthen Russia and Putin at home and across the globe.
If the west had thrown aid in massive amounts for that first summer offensive by Ukraine it could have rolled Russia back and got good ( as in its land back) terms.
Russian infrastructure is now being rapidly destroyed by Ukrainian drones
Hi Jim, not really, Ukraine is making small strikes in the border region to help disrupt supply..but it’s not smashing Russians infrastructure in way Ukraines has been smashed..no Russian cities have been reduced..power supply hit, manufacturing destroyed..food production hammered….
Not yet but attacks on Russian refineries will devastate them for decades and may eventually completely shutter much of the oil industry.
Exactly.
People just count numbers and say OK Russia lost 50 tanks today and see that as a victory
But at the end of the day regardless of these huge losses, Russia just seems to find more reserves they can throw into battle.
Attrition is a big tactic at play here and Russia can afford to play that tactic, they have a large population a lot of raw resources, and a large industrial base., Plus China and Iran to resupply them too.
This is going to be a long war and we must be willing to keep supporting Ukraine. it is also a wake-up call for Europe to rebuild its military industry base.
For me the most important figure is the number of Ukrainian dead and injured as
1) they are the victims
2) it tells you if Russians brutal attrition strategy is working…unfortunately it is…the ratio of Russian to Ukrainian losses…is actually more on Russias side when you weight them against population sizes…
How Putin sleeps at night is beyond me ,throwing is men forward regardless of what’s come back at them.He knows he will never run out of manpower and never going to be a problem. Hell bent on winning just hope now Ammunition on the way he loses ground again.
So to sum it up- the Ukrainian war has resulted in the equivalent loses to x2 of our entire armed forces being lost by Russia. Wonder if the government even think about attrition and how a war will result in loses and how our armed forces would cope with attrition in their current size and state?
Lol, hopium snorting going on there.
A bit low for confessional projection Ukrainian losses are well over half a million now.
Meanwhile BBC and pro Ukrainian mediazona have Russian dead at just under 45,000.
That is officially confirmed dead. That involves tracing that someone died on the battlefield, was in Russian forces and has an actual verifiable grave, headstone, declared in paper, relatives on social media etc.
That number is the guaranteed lowest number. It’s much higher.
Completely off topic , it was reported yesterday that 2 blokes had been arrested working for Russia regards a arson attack in the Uk on a Ukrainian business. This follows numerous attack’s and protests on defense industries across the Uk. which is a most worrying trend and now the Scottish newspaper (The National) has just posted an article with the following headline:
All the major weapons factories in Scotland – mapped
The author has even posted it on his twitter page:
As our series into arms sales continues, our political reporter
HMorrison97 takes a look at exactly where in Scotland arms factories can be found
What is happening in the Uk, where sedition is deemed acceptable.
Oh dear, the Tories are off their meds again. Troy oz prices of copium are shooting up on the FTSE.
russia will still win in the end, with it fire power resources and money. so as the war goes on they will learn from there errors and make better equipment, and Mr Putin will make sure he will win. at any price, and human cost
I don’t think Russia can ever get what would be classed as a victory. Even if Russia takes all of Ukraine and installs its puppet government it will need to have troops in the country that will be under constant attack like an insurgency.
The people that wanted to live under Russian rule moved to crimea and occupied Donbas years ago.
The ones that didn’t want to live under that system left the area from 2014. So there isn’t some large group that in Ukraine that want to live under Russian occupation.
The cost of maintaining that level of operation will impact the Russian people’s lives. All government provided services will suffer as long as Russia has to occupy and prop up the Ukrainian economy.
So what does putin get out of it? What does it bring for the Russian people? The benefits are limited if any and the costs are massive.
We only appear to be willing to spend enough to stop Ukraine loosing badly ie loosing all it territory.
This gives Putin the idea that he nearly made it and if there is a pause in fighting because both sides are exhausted then he will go flat out rebuilding his forces.
This gives us and everyone else in NATO a problem.
He may well restart the war in a year or two. I think the only way to stop him is to give Ukraine enough resources to win and at the same time build our own forces up so as to re establish a conventional forces deterent.
In effect Putin is fighting the second cold war in parallel to his fight in Ukraine and we have politicians who appear not to have noticed.
2.5% of GDP spending will ensure we can finish existing new equipment plans and restore ammunition stocks and not much more. We need to be spending 3% this year with regular increases in following years to expand our own forces so that Putin gets the message not to start anything.
The fact the uk sent several times more aid as a percentage of GDP to the soviet Union! while it was under control of Stalin! and the uk was in WW2 is staggering and embarrassing.
The uk and others agreed to protect Ukraine if it got rid of its nukes, said we stand with Ukraine whatever it takes. It takes a lot more than what has been supplied.
Russia is in war economy mode. 3 million artillery shells at least this year.
The supporting countries of Ukraine could have probably helped Ukraine to kick the Russians out in the first few months of the invasion had they went all in.
Don’t promise to help if your not going to do it properly!
Well if it carries on like this, by this time next year they’ll have nothing left to fight with, except shovels and meat waves… This war will end. There’s only one victor as far as I can see, and it’s not going to be rUZZIA.
It’s hard to see how it could be Ukraine. Stalemate and ceasefire seems likely. Peace treaty seems unlikely. Russia likely to fence off its seized territory and put major obstacle belt down around perimeters. Ceasefire likely to be broken by Russia multiple times.
However – all very different if Putin leaves office or escalates to release of tac nukes, or if Trump returns to power.
Good news Cameron has said any UK weapons can be used as Ukraine sees fit with no restrictions on striking Orc territory!About time👍
even these numbers are completely wrong, it’s about 2 million dead or wounded