Safeguard Defenders, a non-governmental organisation headquartered in Spain, has published a report stating that public security bureaus in two Chinese provinces have established a global network of outposts that carry out “persuasion operations” to coerce dissidents into returning to China.

The report claims there are 54 “overseas police service centres” located in 21 countries over five continents, including two in London and another in Glasgow. According to Safeguard Defenders, these overseas stations are frequently embedded in Chinese community associations in their respective countries.

What are the centres for?

Safeguard Defenders state that the centres are a part of a massive international campaign intended to combat the growing problem of fraud and law breaking committed by Chinese nationals living outside of China.

The Chinese authorities assert that between April 2021 and July 2022, approximately 230,000 Chinese nationals were “persuaded to return” to China to face criminal charges there. The group adds that this campaign, which started on a small scale in 2018, has developed alongside the establishment of overseas Chinese police “service stations”.

Document suggests that a popular Glasgow restaurant is a centre

A document showing the locations of a number of these centres, initially published by Chinese authorities and which I reviewed this morning, suggests that the Glasgow-based unit is located on Sauchiehall Street at the same address as a well-known Chinese restaurant.

417-419 Sauchiehall Street is identified in a list of stations.

Safeguard Defenders say there is no complete list of these “110 Overseas” – named for the Chinese emergency phone number – police service stations available. The initial list, along with additional stations identified by Safeguard Defenders via the above Chinese government announcement, provides a clue to how widespread these stations may be.

The service stations that are presented on this list are those operated by the police departments of Fuzhou and Qingtian. However, an announcement made by the government earlier stated that similar work had begun in ten provinces; consequently, it is safe to assume that the list of such stations is much longer than what can be presented here.

More known centres.

Today I visited the alleged location of the Glasgow centre. I went to their door and, despite what appeared to be staff members inside, no one answered my knocking or called-out question as to whether the allegations were true.

I called the number emblazoned on their front door. After almost ringing out, to my surprise, a man answered the phone. I asked if he or the business had any comment to make about whether the allegations were true. He told me he couldn’t hear me, and I repeated myself, twice, then he hung up.

Others had better luck, “There’s no secret police here,” a spokesman told the Times.

What have the centres been used for?

The report cites an incident that took place in July 2022 in which the government of Wenchang City, Hainan province, issued a notice to disclose the names and pictures of those from Wenchang “illegally staying in northern Myanmar” and warned them to return.

If they did not contact their local police stations by 10 August 2022:

“(1) Their spouses, parents and children would all be suspended from getting subsidies such as severe illness insurance and medical insurance subsidies;

(2) Their children would be disqualified to enter urban schools once the parents failed to show up together in the interviews for registrations or to apply for the admission jointly;

(3) Their immediate family would be blocked in principle from joining the Party and the military, and from taking the exams for becoming public servants or employees of state-owned companies;

(4) Real estate purchased with their illicit money would be vacated and auctioned, any personnel settled in the property would be forcibly driven out, and houses built with stolen money would be demolished.”

The report adds that this was done despite no crimes being committed.

“Even though none of those targeted had been convicted of any crime and, notwithstanding Xinhua’s prior warnings that such actions would paint relatives, children and family members as guilty by association, collateral punishment continued to remain a key part of the ‘persuasion to return’ operation.”

No due process as a means to dodge international treaties

The report concludes by explaining that whether the targets are dissidents, corrupt officials or low-level criminals, “the problem remains the same, the use of irregular methods” that are “often combining carrots with sticks – against the targeted individual or their family members in China undermines any due process and the most basic rights of suspects. The described treatment of targets, their families and even wider community as suspected criminals – in some cases even in the absence of any factual accusation.”

Furthermore, the disregard of the use of proper channels and processes in international relations is despite China’s insistence on the establishment of bilateral extradition treaties, or other mechanisms of judicial cooperation.

“This methodology further allows them to circumvent firmly-set international principles such as the non-derogatory principle of non-refoulement under the United Nations Convention Against Torture and the UN Convention on the Protection of Refugees, or the guarantees established under international mechanisms such as the UN Convention Against Transnational Organized Crime and the Protocols Thereto.”

The First Minister has spoken to Police Scotland about the matter

Greens MSP Ross Greer asked the First Minister about the allegations today on Parliament, Nicola Sturgeon replied:

“I agree that these reports are deeply concerning and I want to be very clear that we take them extremely seriously. Any foreign country operating in Scotland must abide by Scottish law. The Scottish Government fully supports individuals’ rights to free speech, freedom of expression and that is also an extremely important principle. Obviously, these matters require to be fully and properly investigated and it would not be appropriate for me to go into too much detail, but I do know – and I know this as a result of a conversation I had just yesterday with the Chief Constable – that the police are aware of these reports. Of course, the police are operationally independent and it will be up to them to determine what investigations would be appropriate, but they are aware of this, and I would repeat that these reports do require to be treated extremely seriously.”

Investigation must be launched to protect people in the UK

The China Research Group of MPs at Westminster urged the UK Government to investigate these claims.

“The Home Office must launch an investigation to shed more light on the activities of these police stations and whether they are illegally operating in the UK. A Chinese government official reportedly admitted the role of these stations in ‘pressuring criminals’ to return to China. These ‘criminals’ could be Hong Kongers, Uyghurs, dissidents – or indeed anyone else who has dared to criticise the Chinese Communist Party. Formal investigations are now under way by governments in the US, Canada, Spain, Ireland, Germany, and now the Netherlands. It’s important that we don’t become an international laggard in dealing with this sort of malign interference.”

A Home Office spokesperson told me:

“Reports of undeclared ‘police stations’ in the UK are of course very concerning and will be taken extremely seriously. Any foreign country operating on UK soil must abide by UK law. The protection of people in the UK is of the utmost importance and any attempt to illegally repatriate any individual will not be tolerated.”

It’s not clear what, if anything, will be done. But at least, for now, the wheels appear to be turning on this affront to Scotland’s values and ideals of respect, freedom, equality, dignity and fairness.

This first appeared in Bylines Scotland, you can view the original here.

George Allison
George Allison
George has a degree in Cyber Security from Glasgow Caledonian University and has a keen interest in naval and cyber security matters and has appeared on national radio and television to discuss current events. George is on Twitter at @geoallison
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  1. I wonder how much of this goes on with other countries?
    Even so with China it really doesnt surprise me ..as neither will our governments response which will I guess will be …absolutely diddley squat.
    Same as what happened with the consoluate in Manchester where they recently dragged someone off the streets and beat them up.
    I’ve heard nothing more about it -someone should have been expelled for that…but…nothing.
    Silence speaks volumes

    • There are too many high level ties with CCP occupied mainland China to do anything meaningful as a response. Financial, industrial and supply chain dependance has us hogtied. To even contemplate taking any aggressive action would be highly damaging at this time.

      The CCP are about to take advantage of the current situation and attack Taiwan. That situation being the consequence of the savage defence cuts; the Wuhan Virus pandemic and depleting our NATO strategic stocks to aid Ukraine. Both GB and the USA have dangerously depleted our reserves of both fuel and weapons stores.

      I wonder if high level people in our government have enjoyed the same “perks” as the current US administration family members. Such as zero interest, forgivable loans from energy companies in communist china. (According to evidence in the possession of the FBI. FOI documents obtained by “Just the News” and new info released by Sen. Charles Grassley- R-Iowa.)
      If so, there could be other reasons why we will do nothing.

      If there is a 9/11 or Pearl Harbour level event, that pulls the US into the Ukraine v Russia conflict. Then we will be directly involved too. Which likely means the CCP and other belligerents such as Iran, will attempt to settle their own issues while the free world can do nothing in response.

      • Fuel- we have plenty- no shortage at all in that area- weapons stores- yes depleted in some areas- but most of our best stuff is still available as we haven’t given Ukraine our best kit- therefore Chally 2- plenty of ammo, MLRS- plenty, AS90- plenty, 30mm canons for warrior- plenty- 105mm light gun ammo- plenty, 81 mm mortars- plenty, Javelin- enough, NLAWS- being replenished.
        Apache Longbow 30mm canon rounds- loads, rockets- loads, hellfire- loads
        Amraam and meteor for Eurofighter + f35Bs- plenty in NATO stocks- definitely enough to shoot down every Russian and Chinese combat aircraft.
        You get the idea- we have lots of great kit that we never gave to Ukraine as they haven’t had training on it and it is NATO standard kit that would cause too much tension with Russia to have given Ukraine our first rate kit. So despite giving our 2nd or 3rd line reserve kit the Ukrainians have still be able to win battles against Russia’s best.

        • I certainly wouldn’t say lots. We would struggle to logistically sustain a single 1991 level deployment, for more than a month at full combat expenditure. If we had to fight in Europe and the far east, not a chance. The CCP backed Argentinians would be the first to take advantage.

          • We don’t have the numbers for a 91 level deployment full stop, never mind sustaining one.

            We wouldn’t be fighting on the ground in Asia anyway. We would probably send a sub and a handful of aircraft, that’s about the limit of what we could spare without abandoning Europe and the North Atlantic, which is where our properties are.

          • Given that the first duty of government is defence, our hugely reduced military capability is criminal.

            The option to deploy an Amphibious Task Group in the Pacific or Indian Ocean, in addition to fighting a war nearer home. Should be something well within our ability. It’s the very definition of being prepared to fight a world war. These are lessons learned the hard way.

            We also have a duty to protect “properties” in the South Atlantic, just in case you have forgotten. Islands and natural resources coveted by a still belligerent Argentina. Which is being increasingly supported by the CCP.

      • I think the glaringly obvious supplies needed to defend or most likely re-take Taiwan are very different to what are needed on the ground in Ukraine.

        Fuel what you on about? Cost of living crisis worldwide the consumption of fuel is down also.

    • Silence speaks volumes. It certainly does. Would you rather the Security Service took out an advert in the press to tell people what they’re doing?

          • No problems. I’m not suggesting a cover up per ce but I do think they are weak in standing up to the Chinese
            strong arm methodologies. Influenced by certain parties who have vested interests in keeping Chinese monies flowing into the UK (akin to what we did with Russian money). I think a strong government would and should have acted by now we haven’t …and I fear we won’t. I await coverage of what investigations have taken place and what sanctions may ensue.

      • Thats not the point is it …the point is we shoud hear about some things…the consulate in Manchester should be sent packing back home for a start as he was blatantly involved ., any thing less is a disgrace.

  2. This is a serious internal security issue, and something British police forces across the country, the Security Service and Home Office should be investigating immediately at high priority. A foreign police force operating with impunity on sovereign British territory is an extreme attack on the rule of law as well as a severe breach of international good faith. I can think of very few precedents, where one developed and independent country did this to another, except perhaps the operations of the Russian Okhrana in Paris in the late 19th century.

    We should be thankful to have a Home Secretary with intelligence, diligence, the trust of the people and a seriousness about their work that belies any notion they got their job for political reasons after a string of racist remarks and incompetent gaffes.

    Oh, wait . . .

    • Article absolutely confirms my estimate of scum-sucking, slimeball ChiComs. They ruthlessly exploit any vulnerabilities of expat dissidents/non-favored individuals. Not certain re solution; probably not feasible to provide assistance en masse. Presumably a priority issue for MI-5 (whatever current designation of agency is).

      • BTW, ballsy move, George! 👍👍 Watch your six; you are now on the radar of ChiCom Intel services, if not before. Russians have already demonstrated ops in country. 🤔

          • George for PM- much better than any clueless spineless and utterly incompetent Tory. Anything happens to George and that should be a declaration of war as far as I’m concerned. Now I’m going into the garden to start digging my Anderson shelter- I think I’m going to need one soon. The world has gone batshit crazy.

          • Just wondering of all thoughs Brexiters in which this website has is a majority of thinking if it was all worth it there is a big elephant in the room

          • MR B your getting worse. If England miss out on the world cup will that be down to the Tories as well. You’ll probably claim we would beat every team 5 0 if it wasn’t for a Tory government.😁

          • But they don’t labour when passing the ball and there has been a tendency to be liberal with own goals recently.😉

        • You know what the witch hunts were about do you? The Americans were trying to ban people from jobs and professions if that thought or voted in a particular way eg backed trade unions or supported the wrong politics. Ring any bells? China, Iran, North Korea, Russia . Fortunately the U.S. learnt the lesson.

          • Yes it rings a bell in our own polictics. No where near the same level, but already we have laws allowing policticans to use the police to arrest innocent protesters, which can be used to remove any anti goverment protests or at least ones they don’t agree with. We have had voting seat boundary changes to favour the party in government. We have had the whole anti woke stuff from our government trying to create division in the country for their benefit. We have had the government put pressure on newspapers to bury stories etc. We have an extradition treaty with the US where they refuse to sign the counter side. We have a law passing through government right now that is aimed to remove a number of our fundamental human rights (such as right to paid leave, which will be gone if new laws are not passed to bring them back and there are hundreds of these things being removed without current plan for replacements). Ok it’s all minor stuff today, but it’s a slippery slope.

      • Any arrests made for flagrant assault and Actual bodily harm? Nope- the police and our government are scared shitless of the ChiComs and their evil dictatorship.

        • No because in the U.K. the police investigate the facts before identifying if a crime has been committed, if so by whom, and then arresting them if there is sufficient evidence. We have this thing here called habeus corpus.

          Knee-jerk arrests of people without evidence is what the Chinese do.

          • Hi Sean,

            I agree with what you are saying, but the police have a very poor charge record at the moment despite police numbers rising. So much so that the Home Secretary, who leads by example, has told them they have to improve…

            May guess is that the preps are already out of the country, Home Office being the super efficient organisation that it is…

            As you can probably tell I don’t have much faith in Government at the moment. Shambolic at the moment from top to bottom.

            Cheers CR

          • Separation of powers, don’t confuse the government with law enforcement or the judiciary.

            (I recall plenty of lefties not wanting to go into lockdown or wear masks at the start of the pandemic simply because they didn’t like Boris, when of course these were coming from Sage.)

            Hopefully Chinese bureaucrats are just as inefficient as ours.

    • We should be thankful to have a Home Secretary with intelligence, diligence, the trust of the people and a seriousness about their work that belies any notion they got their job for political reasons after a string of racist remarks and incompetent gaffes.
      Oh, wait . . .
      Seriously ? I think twitter might be a more suitable place for you.

      • You mean a total joker?

        Or who policies are so far right that they don’t deserve to be dignified with a Conservative label?

        The one thing she has in common with Priti Patel is a hatred of immigrants in spite of being of migrant stock herself………

        I believe in a sensible level of immigration as part of the National financial solution – we need more workers in the UK. It is the biggest brake on economic activity ATM. Said as an employer.

        • SB wrote:

          “”The one thing she has in common with Priti Patel is a hatred of immigrants in spite of being of migrant stock herself………””

          Thats a common trope used by the liberals, left and the woke generation in which to attack anybody who tries to get a grip on immigration. Now I like PP and SB was born here to immigrants and like them my only loyatly is to the UK.

           
          The problem as i see it, is due to the ubiquitous use of the Race card, white people cannot be seen to try and combat immigration in the Uk, because they are automatically castigated as Racists, of having white privilege and not understanding what it is to be non white.
          (When PP stood up and gave a speech in the hosue about been abused for her skin colour the left of the house berated her for not not knowing what it was like to be non white, look it up its on YT)

          So immigration, due to the power of the left of the political centre, the Uk deports one of the least amounts of people across Europe which last year stood at 2000 people, the vast majority of whom were deported to Poland.

          That in itself is a prime driver for people to head here. Last night it was revealed the Uk is spending £7 million a day in putting up so called asylum seekers. Now I mentioned so called it is well reported that the system is well abused for example. Last year when Kabul fell, it came out in the wash that hundreds of so called Asylum seekers from Afghanistan were stuck inside the country after going back on holiday, there was even the case of one bloke who was living there. To that end why is nobody asking questions why people who gained asylum in the Uk because their lives are at risk back home found to be returning on a regular basis.

          There was the case of the Pakistani asylum seeker who became a councillor on Manchester city council after fighting for 6 years not to be returned to Pakistan. As soon as he received his right to remain guess where he visited

          In 2020 Aya Hachem a 19 year old Lebanese girl was shot dead as she walked down the street in Blackburn in a shooting by Pakistani business men on their Turkish rivals. Her family claimed asylum in the Uk as the father claimed his life was at risk. The BBC aired a video report of the entire family returning to their village to bury her.

          The man who carried out the stabbing of 3 gay men in Reading was an asylum seeker who had recently released from prison

          The woman who slit the throat of a 7 year old child in a Bury park was an Asylum seeker. (She was given asylum despite the fact she had spent 10 years as a married woman in Germany)

          The man who blew a car up outside Liverpool maternity hospital was a failed asylum seeker

          The child who blew up the Tube at Parsons green was a fake asylum seeker.

          The list is endless and yet anybody who tries to shine a light onto this, is immediately called out as a racist, yet as we have seen, we are taking people in without checking if they are lying, why we accept that 35 year old blokes are actually children , put them into foster care and send them to school alongside children.

          Trying to stem the flow of illegal migrants into the Uk is not racist esp when they pose a serious threat to the country (Be it civilain or miltary)

          When France, Germany, Poland ,Italy, Spain deport people nobody plays the R card. yet in the Uk you are and as in the case of the last two Asian HS, it doesn’t mean they hate immigrants, it means they are trying to sort out the mess no white person is now able to do.

          • Farouk

            I did say that we needed “sensible level[s] of immigration”.

            Uncontrolled immigration is a solution to nothing and a massive problem. Even Blair admitted that.

            As is no immigration at all IMHO.

            There is a balance to be struck and sending most of the Eastern European workforce packing has created a crisis in construction, hospitality and agriculture to name but two sectors. As well as pouring petrol on inflation with massive wage growth to attract the few candidates around.

          • OT to some degree, but is anyone else puzzled/surprised by the apparent dearth of HK residents, holding British Overseas passports, bailing out and landing in dear olde Blighty? With current ChiCom leadership, there is absolutely no doubt that would be the intelligent option, and there is no guarantee how long it will remain open. Believe HK residents are generally considered to be industrious, educated and entrepreneurially inclined. Could do worse, much worse, for a new immigrant class. 🤔

          • Firstly no one sent the eastern european workers packing thats complete trollop pounded about by the remoaner media.

            Anyone who was from the EU working in the UK was given the opportunity to apply to stay, did some people choose to leave due to Brexit, yes. Did the government send them packing, no.

            What did happen however at around the same time was the pandemic, did a very large percentage choose to return home to be with families instead of applying to stay, yes.

            Now Im not disagreeing that those people who left now find it hard to return but please dont peddle absolute crap by saying the government sent them packing when the government gave the legal EU workers here the option to apply to stay.

          • Employing a lot of Eastern Europeans myself: they didn’t feel terribly welcomed by whichever rent-a-Xenophobe was on the news at that moment.

            Mood music matters: it does change behaviours.

          • Totally agree but that at the time was purely down to which news was watched, I cant remember a time that the media was so divided into two such extremes with virtually no sensible voice in the middle.

            The situation to get people back now does need to be looked at as it is not ideal but the choice still existed to stay at the time.

          • Ok I tried to show the sources for all the below yesterday but it’s been rejected so here we go.
            In year toJune 2022 1.1m entry visas granted. An all time record.
            Year to August 2022 largest fall in real wages since financial crisis of 2010.
            Other than that your spot on.

          • While those crimes were committed there was also a bucket load by the general population.
            It’s a tough call to work out how should stay and who should go and certainly not a job I would want. The whole process needs speeded up a lot
            And simplified as well as the return process. Once someone gets here I’m they should be here for a maximum of 4 weeks. Start that from a certain date and deal with the back log.
            We could really do with a spare island people could be put for those 4 weeks.
            that lady that said her dream was to see immigrants on a flight to Rwanda. She’s meant to be a professional, total weirdo. She should be attending the sleep centre for dream analysis if that’s what gets her off!

      • I think it’s fair to question whether our ministers are up for the job on a forum like this. We have praised Ben Wallace fairly consistently. We can judge the Home Secretary. Does she fill you with hope she’ll be able to get on with the job?

    • Agree the premises should be raided immediately and all personnel arrested and removed from the country- all property seized as evidence that the UK government will share with the rest of the world. These are unofficial non embassy properties not listed as afforded diplomatic protection and therefore are open season for our security services. No breach of diplomatic etiquette in doing with them as we see fit.

  3. I hate the Chinese government, hopefully they fall from power soon.
    Now when you come to coerce me can you bring a chicken curry, rice, chips and 2L bottle of iron bru. I’m hungry

    • Trouble is the CCP & similar dictators have no qualms slaughtering anyone who try to challange their power. It takes more than simply the balls just for the Chinese to stand up against them as all resistance will just be mercilessly crushed. You may as well walk in front of a firing machine gun.
      There needs to be a carefully crafted strategy, backed by not allowing the free world to become so commited to China’s economy that our leaders are compromised from the start. We must stop appeasing the CCP.

      • Agreed, the pandemic has shown the worlds reliance on China. If that doesnt teach people then nothing will.

        Cracks are appearing in China’s economy and debt levels, hopefully an exodus in business from China might push its economy to a tipping point.

  4. It is all done on the assumption that we *need* China as a trade partner so won’t do anything about it. They will huff and puff about China Policy and Chine Needs and China doesn’t interfere in internal affairs….

    Thankfully it was realised, rather late in the day, that Huawei were a massive national security threat and the China Nuclear Power Co was really just a part of the state.

    The Huawei thing was the most monumental piece of idiocy letting a foreign country control your main fibre network backbone, almost all of the DLAMS that run the FTTC (copper infrastructure are almost all Huawei), the FTTP (full fibre) that was going in was almost all Huawei too. Then the 5G – OMG. So you would let a foreign power control and large network of high power, wide band, steerable, transmitters and receivers in a wide array across the country: the mind boggles at the stupidity of allowing that.

      • May actually started the process towards ripping out Huawei. Doris then dithered and finally started the wheels in motion.

          • Well the UK now the sick man of Europe just wondering as this website is all pro Brexit was it’s the wrong thing todo economy wise ?when at least we had a say , northern Irelands a mess , would really like to hear your guys opinion on the elephant in the room lol because it really is mess that should of been easily avoided , really love to hear the excuses.

          • Sorry David but were you the one who thought Truss was a good choice when I said she was not intelligent enough to lead in our previous conversation 😅 and you know brexit fan or not , its not so simple a case as treating it like rival football fans😉

          • I’d love you to stop mentioning Brexit on every post but as Mick once said… You can’t always get what you want.

          • May did indeed sack Williamson because of a perceived leak from a cabinet meeting. He was the one who started the ball rolling to get Huwai out of the fibre network it had been recognised for a while even identified in a report by GCHQ (I beleive) but no one seemed bothered to do anything about it until he put the cat amongst the pigeons.
            Not sure how far Huwai kit removal has got tbh.

    • That is what you get for allowing lobbyists to influence politicians. The Johnsons are well known “Sinophiles”, and there are many others bought and paid for no doubt. People laughed at “drain the swamp”. Ours is long overdue.

      • Doris put a final stop to Huawei and CNC involvement? And he did move the dual significantly in the mood music.

        Johnson senior is the useful idiot in this context.

        • I think personally all Johnsons are out for themselves. Sort of familial narcissism on a grand scale. The morals of Johnson Jnr speak volumes, a walking cesspit.

  7. Its been reported these past few days that secret Chinese police stations have been found in Holland and Canada. with as many as 36 in Europe alone.
    As for the Uk, expect nothing much as China has bought a load of British MPs. Kind of explains why the UK gov has been happy to sell so much of British industry to China no doubt with a number of MPs increasing their Bank balance.

    Find as below the locations of those 36 secret chinese cop shops as reported by Spanish NGO Safeguard Defenders in September
    https://i.postimg.cc/T2rTCDXv/Opera-Snapshot-2022-10-27-173701-www-euronews-com.png

    • On European news- Germany has lost its largest chemicals fabrication industrial site too you’ve guessed it.. moving production to China.
      Uneconomical trying to manufacture chemicals when the raw elements needed eg petrochemicals and natural gas are now no longer readily available in Germany. 1-0 to Putin and the Sino/Russian Axis of evil.

    • Any evidence of said MP’s who are receiving payments from the CCP?

      If a private company is sold to a company that is owned by a Chinese entity is very little the government can do to prevent this, unless its a case for UK security matters.

      Its a simple case of bigger wealthier companies buying others.

    • Please provide any citations or links you have found on topic. Knew about Huawei, of course, and FBI Director’s announcement re record number of ChiCom counter-espionage cases being investigated. Believed this type of in-country op. was confined to vulnerable areas of Europe, Africa and Asia. Obviously an incorrect assumption…☹️

  11. Where do you run with this? Point out that communism is an evil doctrine, that its adherents are generally evil in intent and you get laughed at. Sadly Johnson Snr. Johnson ex PM are confirmed “Sinophiles”. Hunter Biden and his daddy, Fauci? All have Chicom dealings. Rand Paul took Fauci apart about “gain of function”. Nothing happened. Chicoms have succeeded where the Soviets tried and largely failed. Although the Soviets did infiltrate the Labour/trade union scene, the Chicoms have bought a lot of politicians on both sides of Parliament and in the US. Personally I would arrest every suspected foreign agent and deal with them for what they are, every “student” and anyone with links to the Chinese regime. No Chinese takeovers of British concerns either. Any holder of public office with any links to the Chicoms? Ban from holding public office ever again. Universities and research bodies with links to China? Close them down. Notice how our dear politicians are silent on the plight of the Uigher Muslims? No, time for a line in the sand domestically. Foreign agents openly operating in the UK? Arrest, put on trial and make sure this infiltration stops now. As for certain ex aircrew? I hold my breath there. Our treason laws need serious overhaul.

    • Add to that Solomon islands (contract already signed) and Malaysia being courted now. PLAN units can deploy to Solomon islands now if they so chose. Indications are they want to build a very heavily fortified naval base – similar to those under construction in Somalia and Ethiopia.

    • Don’t know about the UK, but believe there has been a sea change in attitudes among the American populace over the last few years. I, myself, am perfectly unbiased in my assessment of the slimeball ChiComs (😉), but don’t believe there are many, if any, Americans remaining favorably disposed toward ChiComs.

      • Mixed here. Many older people realize the intent, but a lot of younger tend to still love cheap goods. Then my experience of younger people is they lack any knowledge of history, geopolitics, or reality apart from a few. Then we suffer an “education” system that does not teach critical thinking.

        • Younger people tend to have less money. The “suffering” caused by the education system causing their choices is less likely to be due to geopolitical ignorance and more to do with student debt.

          • If you willingly take on a lifetime of debt for a “degree” in Media Studies or such? You are just plain stupid. Any study of western “education” systems shows they are based on the Prussian Model of “education”. Or as many of us call it rightly learning by rote. Simply jumping through hoops does not make well-rounded, questioning adults. It produces drones. The sad thing is? They go on to produce yet more.

        • Its true. Ive tried to educate my sons to 20th century history and its lessons. They arent interested. Only interested in X box and tiktok. Terrible state of affairs. If it kicks off with the Chicoms the west will be reliant on old war dogs like me. 46 years young.

        • Not sad, if they choose to ignore the realities of this world they are the sad ones. Keep doing it. We need more like you.

        • Your paranoia is out of control, I always use my name. It’s just that there’s probably several people on here who also find your attempts to pass-off facism as patriotism to be distasteful and insulting to our great nation.

    • Totally agree, with corruption as the core tool. They do play a “long game”. Soon they will move on Russia as they eye up Siberia and a direct route to the Arctic. Russia will have no military capable of preventing that. Be honest, it is a Han empire. The “liberal” west has been weak because it is hooked on the cheap tack. And our political class is corrupt and bought.

  12. It’s not clear what, if anything, will be done. But at least, for now, the wheels appear to be turning on this affront to Scotland’s values and ideals of respect, freedom, equality, dignity and fairness.
    Didn’t you see how the Scottish police treated people during the COVID lockdowns ? SMH.

    • Wee Jimmy Cranky will sort it out. No doubt about it. She will be first in with the swat team to raid the premises.😃😉😆

  13. So I’m reading the comments to Georges tweet and I come this one:
    Big Dug at BigDug1888 3m Replying to atgeoallison
    “”About 20 years ago I was security in littlewoods on Sauchiehall and can remember one afternoon a full on running battle with 2 groups of Chinese guys with cleavers and machetes, rumours of triads where always about, even to point people thought the old guts thst sat in the cafe..”2

    Had a little chuckle as all I could think of what this from the film:
    Big trouble in little China

  14. Here’s an idea- shut them down. They are illegal and in no way comply with the international standards for an embassy. Would we have let the gestapo set up a station in the United Kingdom in 1939- no. therefore why should we tolerate this concept of a Chinese secret police station in Glasgow or London.
    Some diplomatic evictions are going to be required.

  15. Well the UK now the sick man of Europe just wondering as this website is all pro Brexit was it’s the wrong thing todo economy wise ?when at least we had a say , northern Irelands a mess , would really like to hear your guys opinion on the elephant in the room lol because it really is mess that should of been easily avoided , really love to hear the excuses.

    • People like you try to get a rise out of others simply because you have trouble accepting the will of a majority. It really is that simple. As for NI? That’s simple too. Boris sold the Loyalists down the river. Add to the fact Blair released terrorists, Biden and Pelosi continue American meddling. So you see, the world is not all as you would want it to be. Sad that eh?

      • Sorry but the last recession which was much more world wide spread than this recession and we were not the sick man of Europe then , I don’t mind us leaving Europe if it does not decline our power and at this moment its declining pretty badly I guess we will have to wait for the painful defense budget .

        • Ok you keep using the phrase ‘the sick man of europe’ The comparative annual GDP growth figures easily available to everyone with internet access render that statement at best highly dubious and at worst non factual. Maybe i’m completely wrong and you’re using the phrase in another context if so it would be helpful to the rest of us if you were more specific in future.

          • Hey I want to believe you but how are we in this position more worst off than the last recession , we should not be in this position and if any more cuts on the defense budget happen that is a decline and after every cut there is no recovery or expansion on defense when the UK do recover. I’m happy to be proven wrong mind.

          • “how are we in this position”

            Covid, the war in Ukraine, and that idiot Truss conducting an experiment with the economy.

            You might have noticed those economic shocks these last 3 years Dave?

          • Yes DM but how have we the UK have come off worst then any other western nation? even the tory papers have said so , we should not be in this position!!!! so why are we ? and yet our defense budget will decline , it is just not acceptable!!!

          • Newspapers have their own agendas as do TV and radio. The raw statistics are out there and accessible. Trust them and only them.

      • I am not happy with a leaver pretending this is about the ‘will of the people’ being respected.

        The leave campaign was built on lies and intimidation, and illegally funded.

        Ten days before the vote Farage told us he would not accept a narrow defeat and offered 52 v 48 as an example. He said he would demand another vote before the end of that parliament and he would get it or there would be trouble (unspecified).

        They murdered an MP three days later.

        They win the first vote 51.7 v 48.3. A smaller winning margin than the one Farage said we would refuse to accept.

        There is an immediate upswing in racist violence. This involves hundreds of incidents reported to police and three deaths. There are many more such unreported. A Latvian woman I know was spat on in the street and threatened. She and her British partner have since moved to New Zealand.

        Newspapers reported that the Police had received lots of complaints of abuse, threats and some assaults during the campaign. I think the figure I recall was either just over 2k or just over 3k. They also report that these were overwhelmingly leaver on remain by 98.something.

        Farage insists we cannot have another vote or there will be trouble (unspecified). He never clarifies what he means by trouble except to refuse to accept any responsibility when people get murdered.

        Thanks to the political cowardice of our mainstream politicians they succeed in applying a ratchet to our decision making by murder, terror and lies.

        Some people will never let you get away with it. Sad that eh?

        • Your views and I respect that. Even if I think it is total b.ll.x. The EU is corrupt, cannot balance its books year on year. Then I admit corruption is rife in all politicians, even in the UK. Accepting a majority viewpoint seems impossible for many. Or were we to do an Ireland or France and keep voting until we voted the “correct” way? If as much remoaner energy was spent in putting things right? We would crawl out of the present mess with some dignity in time. Sadly the Guardian and lefty/woke butt hurt percentage will not let it go. A bit like Covid this, it suits a large number of people to keep whining.

        • “They murdered an MP three days later.”

          The murder of Jo Cox was performed by a guy with mental health problems who had nothing to do with Farage, UKIP, or vote leave.

          Your use of “they” to imply UKIP or Farage was involved deserves libel and I hope Farage sees it. In fact I will make sure he does.

          • They clearly means leavers generally.

            Over my lifetime two MPs have been murdered by Irish Republicans, one by leavers, and one by Islamists. I suspect a lot of Ulster’s paramilitarys are ‘nuts’ by normal standards. The man who murdered Sir David was. I am sure the leaver who murdered Jo Cox was too. Violent extremist groups attract nutters.

            All the facts I stated are correct. You are right the timeline (also correct) raises questions. When he repeated his ‘warnings’ about trouble after Jo’s murder several journalists asked Farage what he meant. He never gave any real answer.

            If you ever have any contact with him please ask him what he meant. If he is still avoiding answering perhaps you should rethink your loyalties. If he gives a reasonable reply perhaps ask him why he did not before.

            As regards UKIP membership as a whole several ‘chapters’ of the KKK were closed down and the leading members bankrupted when civil rights groups funded civil cases by victims who argued their rhetoric contributed to the atmosphere within which they suffered racism.

          • Or elections have had rules about spending and recording sources for quite sometime. Parts of the leave campaign broke the spending rules and parts were funded by untraceable money from abroad.

            In a normal election, by-election or referendum this would warrant declaring the result invalid and ordering a rerun.

            When a remain group tried this the court said that as it was only a consultative referendum they had no authority. Since then I have heard a lot of leavers try to misrepresent as ‘the court said the result was valid’. That is untrue.

            The fact that the referendum was approved by parliament and fought as a consultative referendum only is another of the grounds for challenging the result.

    • The website is not all pro Brexit but mainly.

      The pro vote was a mix heavy on nationist bigotry, outright racism and ignorance. Those factors are also there in some military recruiting. They will also encourage an interest in power and warfare generally.

      The cumulative costs of Brexit by now will exceed our defence spending, probably by a lot.

      I also think Brexit can be blamed for most of our covid dead and other costs.

      • “The pro vote was a mix heavy on nationist bigotry, outright racism and ignorance.”

        Utter bollocks and the usual boring old chestnuts. I knew plenty of them and there were no bigots or racists amongst the campaigners I met. In fact several were Black and one was straight out of the Taliban catalogue. Are they racists too?

        Please tell me, are all the independent nations of the world racist for not being in a political union? Is Switzerland racist? Is Norway? Is Australia?

        “I also think Brexit can be blamed for most of our covid dead and other costs”

        More hogwash. Errr, no, blame China, for happily allowing it to spread to the world. It would have come here whether the UK was part of a political union or not wouldn’t it, as Covid does not recognise borders.

        • Re the racism you are looking at the campaign from inside. I am looking at it from outside. I suspect we see the same things very differently.

          How does being black or whatever ‘straight out of the Taliban catalogue’ means stop someone being racist or xenophobic?

          Re covid. Since Sars and Mers everyone has known something like this was inevitable. All the worlds developed countries had contingency plans. Ours was very good and many surveys thought we were one of the best prepared countries in the world ie https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/11/countries-preparedness-pandemics/

          Unfortunately when it happened we had rule by leavers who do not trust ‘experts’ or the civil service because they are all remoaners. So they tore up the plan and winged it. Hence our having the worst first wave in Europe.

          Within the EU by comparison the Commission urged everyone to follow the plans and share information. Germany followed and developed its plan and ended up doing what we had planned to almost exactly. At the end of the first wave their death rate per 100k was 19% of ours.

          That is 45k dead there and all subsequent waves took off from a base level 5 times what it could and should have been.

          This country has paid a terrible price for humouring UKIP.

      • I noticed you left in the extreme examples but not willing to highlight distrust of the political system. I don’t think the remain campaign comes away favourably, when they just made bigoted campaign against the population and working class. Also, why would someone change their mind about voting Brexit when this was the attitude towards them.

      • Now I know you are naught but a troll and I can and will ignore anything further you say…on any matter, so thank you for that.

  16. First they come for their own people with the good sense to flee CCP oppresion, then they seek to undermine our liberties & democracies, set up people who’ll go the autocratic route until the whole planet is under the CCP thumb, or jackboot rather.
    Letting our rich export most of our manufacturing jobs to China has funded this.

    We live in extremely dangerous times, yet naively think we must do everything to maintain buisiness as usual.

    • Just to reiterate. Not sure how this isnt on every western news article. Germany just moved its largest chemical manufacturing plant from Germany to China. Can you believe that? I huess Scholz is going to be getting all of Germany’s LNG from China. But China doesnt have LNG fields ….thats because its being piped in from Russia. China is just the middle man and making a nice tidy profit. Germany is a morally corrupt and undermined nation. They sold themselves to the SinoRussian axis of evil years ago under Merkel.

      • We like to think the Germans are law-abiding, but (deep down) what sort of ethics allow you to actively circumvent environmental emissions tests (VW, BMW etc.). My point is that this mindset is an undercurrent that leads to previous historical 20th Century behaviours by the likes of Mercedes, Krupps et al, which were not very nice at all.

  17. It’s amusing the number of people on here who want the authorities to smash their way into this restaurant, arrest and either jail or deport all those inside, simply based upon the above article. The actions they advocate are those of a totalitarian regime, such as China.

    In Britain we have habeus corpus, due process of law, seperation of powers, etc. the police will undoubtedly investigate these reports and if proof is found they appropriate legal action will be taken.

    • “Appropriate action”? What planet do you inhabit or does your apparent multi-faceted online existence lead to your apparent continuous dysfunction?

    • Hillarious. So we have evidence, suspicion and just cause. Police should go in. Lets see what a few raids can route out. UK should publish its findings to the whole world and watch as the Chinese squirm about just cause and its all lies. Etc etc etc. Heard all that hot air from the Chinese government so many times I just change channel now whenever one of those idiots presents the warped CCPs view of the world.

      • Clearly you have no idea about the law.
        We have accusations made by a foreign NGO about various locations in the U.K. That’s sufficient for the police to investigate looking for evidence, it’s not justification for them to behave like the Gestapo or the Chinese Police.

      • Sean is an interesting person but very triggered by things that challenge his concrete beliefs. He may appear under a different identity at times and agree with himself 😎

        • The paranoia is strong in this one!
          You can’t comprehend that most people on here don’t share your fascist views and so assume they must all be the same person using different identities.
          You sound like all those Remoaners who can’t believe that people voted for Brexit, or those Trump supporters who can’t conceive more people voted for Biden.

  18. Following George’s excellent example, I went to one of the addresses in London near me. If I recall correctly, there used to be a Chinese restaurant there some years ago. Now it’s a (non-Chinese) estate agent. However, a mottled brass plaque above a letter box remains, declaring it in English and Chinese the address of “New World Law Associates”, which is sounding a little less like a law firm than it would have before I read the article.

    I doubt they have anything to do with the estate agent, apart from maybe using them as an accommodation address, and it’s possible the hairdressers in Croydon and the Chinese restaurant in Glasgow are just as innocent.

    • Just to add for those sharpening hatchets, for all I know the immigration-focused law firm itself may be equally innocent. The article states this secret policeman’s balls up started in 2018 and the plaque is clearly much older than that.

      Looking at their website it doesn’t come over as a Chinese government front. My guess is the current law firm backed into an existing shell company to get a bit of age/legitimacy. All speculation, of course.

  19. It’s also worth remembering that the vast majority of Chinese who live in the U.K. are ex-Hong Kong residents or U.K. born descendants of ex-Hong Kong residents who came to live in the U.K. since the return of Hong Kong to China.

    It’s in China’s interest to get the U.K. worked up against the “Chinese” living in the U.K. ( many of whom are British and not Chinese anyway ).

    In the 80s a Chinese takeaway could lose business because of a local rumour about a dog in a fridge.

    In the 21st century a story on the internet can get loads of people across the actual world worked up and cause actual harm or threats to someone.

    • I dont advocate any discrimination against any ex Hong Kong/ Chinese nationals. Anyone who holds uk residency rights or citizenship has the right to freedom from persecution and a right to self-determination. What needs to be made very clear to China is that the UK will uphold its freedom and democracy and defend it with deadly intent as required.
      I think we owe that to previous generations who fought and died to uphold those rights.
      Therefore this subversive police activity of a foreign power on UK and also other democratic countries needs to be stamped out. If the ruling Chinese communist dictators dont like that. Well thats just tough.

  21. The use chocolate hammers we have in power will sit on the fence as usual and miss the boat ,shut it down now and arrests for espionage but they won’t as the tory government has its or some of its members up to their necks with the chinese communist business, CHINA WILL BECOME OUR ENEMY AND SEND A MESSAGE TO THEM!!!!

  22. In a report dated Oct. 26, the cybersecurity firm Mandiant identified new narratives pushed by Dragonbridge, an online disinformation campaign. The report says that Dragonbridge—in an effort to influence the U.S. midterm elections—has been aggressively seeking to create conflicts between the United States and its allies and within the U.S. political system.

    Beware the CCP, they wage total war, using every avenue available to them. We generally never hear about the attacks against GB. Hopefully that will change soon.

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