A senior Conservative MP used the Westminster Hall debate on Typhoon sovereign capability to demand clarity on radar upgrades, export prospects and the impact of the Government’s planned F-35 mix.
Mark Francois, MP for Rayleigh and Wickford, told the Minister that the Turkish deal for 20 Typhoons was welcome, but raised several urgent questions about both the industrial and operational future of the aircraft.
He asked the Government to confirm the radar fit for the Turkish tranche 4 jets and whether Meteor would be included in the package, emphasising the implications for BAE Systems, Leonardo and MBDA. He also sought confirmation on reports that Qatar may transfer older Typhoons to Turkey, suggesting this could drive additional UK orders. Francois also pressed for updates on potential further exports, including the long-stalled Saudi requirement and Poland’s interest. He argued that additional sales are essential to sustain work at Warton and Samlesbury.
Much of his intervention focused on capability risk. He noted that the RAF has retired around 30 tranche 1 Typhoons, reducing combat mass. He also asked for confirmation that when the remaining aircraft in the Falklands are withdrawn in 2026 to 27, they will be replaced by tranche 2 or 3 jets to maintain the islands’ air defence.
Francois warned that the aircraft’s future performance depends on programmes that have not yet been contracted. He told MPs that although Radar 2 has been fully developed by Leonardo, “the MOD has still not placed a production order even for an initial batch”. Both tranche 2 and 3 aircraft require the phase 4 enhancement package to exploit Radar 2’s electronic warfare functions, yet, he said, “the MOD has still not placed an order for the final development and installation of P4E”.
The MP also examined the wider combat air mix. He noted the slow build of the Lightning Force and asked Ministers to set out the final number of F-35s to be procured. The planned substitution of 12 F-35Bs with F-35As, intended to support NATO’s nuclear mission, prompted further scrutiny. Francois asked what mix of variants the MOD will ultimately buy and how they will sit alongside Typhoon through the 2030s and 2040s.
Turning to the Global Combat Air Programme, Francois urged the Minister to confirm that Tempest remains on schedule for 2035 in light of industry rumours of delay. He described GCAP as a critical component of future sovereign capability and warned that any slippage would have significant implications for how long Typhoon must remain in frontline service.
Carns responds with assurances on upgrades and long-term planning
Responding for the Government, the Armed Forces Minister Al Carns acknowledged the scale of the issues raised. He said the aircraft has “proven itself to be the UK’s premier multi-role combat aircraft” since 2003 and remains fundamental to air policing at home and across NATO. He highlighted current RAF activity on the eastern flank under Operation Eastern Sentry and recent deployments in Poland, Romania and Estonia.
Carns also spoke on the industrial significance of the programme, noting that 37 percent of each new Typhoon is manufactured in the UK and supports “more than 20,000 jobs across the country”. He said the Turkish order is worth up to £8 billion and supports at least 330 British suppliers, describing it as evidence that the Government’s export approach “is delivering”.
On the upgrade path, Carns stated that Typhoon will “continue to underpin our combat air capability into the 2040s” and that the radar modernisation is backed by £3 billion of investment. He said the new electronically scanned radar is being delivered with Eurofighter partner nations and remains “on track for delivery in the next decade”, sustaining hundreds of skilled posts, particularly at Leonardo in Edinburgh. Although he did not provide dates for production orders or commit to specific P4E milestones, he reiterated that Typhoon is undergoing a “comprehensive set of upgrades to deliver operational advantage”.
Carns confirmed that Typhoon and the F-35 will remain a complementary mix. He did not address the detailed concerns about the F-35A nuclear mission, the future weapons fit, or the timeline for Meteor integration, but repeated that the RAF is accelerating its adoption of new technologies and intends to remain “the leading European air force”.
He also linked the long-term picture to GCAP, saying the project remains central to the UK’s future air combat architecture and that Tempest will form part of a broader shift to new systems and innovation. Carns did not comment on reported schedule pressures.












It seems that gap filling and long term investment are clashing for the 2025-2040’s period. Perhaps an early introduction of combat drones could help fill the gap.
There’s too little money chasing too many requirements. Adding in another requirement isn’t going to help. You’d need to cancel out something now to pay for it — government loves taking “brave” decisions like that — only to find delays and cancellations with the replacement.
Then, it would be more Typhoon now I guess?
Isn’t it more the worry over the next 5 years? Do they think there is always the luxury of more time? If there’s not going to sufficient air cover Isn’t there thrn a pressing need for some real GBAD structure for the UK? With the T45 Viper Evolution upgrade happening is the Aster SAMP/T even being considered in a GBAD mix? If the RAF/RN can share F35Bs they can share Aster and CAMM inventory! Is the UK looking at what’s happening in Europe and is it doing anything back home?
No idea why RAF need to be involved in GBAD that should be given to RN as they have the A30 expertise.
Drop the F35A and develop a suitable warhead for a munition deployable from Typhoon as a sovereign capability would be a better solution than that proposed.
Who are we going to use tactical nukes on, on our own? Argentina? The whole point of this weapon is that it’s NATO. We have a sovereign nuke – at sea. I’m not sure that the F35A is the move – maybe be new Typhoons… but the nuke thing is a NATO thing. We are not going to war with Russia on our own.
Alternatively just buy the French ASMP-A missile and integrate onto Typhoon, whilst buying into its replacement programme – ASN4G.
We don’t have the money to go it alone and develop all our capabilities, so buying off the shelf ultimately saves time and gets you kit. Yes its at a cost in UK workshare/design etc, but occasionally needs must, so just bite the bullet and buy stuff that fits the bill.
I have zero understanding of how the F35A + nuclear improves anything NATO wise. I well understand the philosophy.
We spend our bit on Trident and that is our nuclear umbrella contribution.
F35A just dilutes carrier strike which is so close to being useful.
The biggest gaps looming with no firm plan to remedy are
1. Combat air, the numbers are just too small and an order of at least 30 new Typhoons would really help.
2. Artillery, with just 14 Archers, MRLS, and light guns, the army couldn’t undertake significant operations.
I fear MRSS and T32, T83 will either be scrapped or not ordered for years.
I understand the logic of acquiring the F35 rather than more Typhoons BUT have we actually ordered any. I know that a “plan” to acquire more was announced but orders? The other problems are very relevant. Spear? How far are we with integration or are we just going to drop bombs ala WW2? Block 4 apparently not going to happen until 2031, five years behind schedule. Could we be any slower?
Situation normal then?