Protestors have blocked the gates to BAE Systems shipyard in Govan in an effort to “shut down sites which produce components for the F-35 fighter jet”.

The shipyard doesn’t produce parts for fighter jets, though.

Drone imagery recently showed the progress of a massive new ‘frigate factory’ in Glasgow. The massive facility at Govan represents a huge boost in capability for UK naval shipbuilding.

New frigate factory build progress captured by drone

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George has a degree in Cyber Security from Glasgow Caledonian University and has a keen interest in naval and cyber security matters and has appeared on national radio and television to discuss current events. George is on Twitter at @geoallison
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terence patrick hewett
terence patrick hewett
3 months ago

Another pack of village simpletons, who imagine that their adolescent fantasies affect anything at all.

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke
3 months ago

Unbelievable really.

Shows how detached from reality these people are.

Blockading a shipyard that produces steel hulls with engines – not even the fitout site that adds the bits that go bang…..

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago

Reality would be rammed home with a harsh reduction in the orders

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago
Reply to  Andy reeves

Four years to build a patrol ship? How in earth are they getting frigates? Don’t even think about the type (3 tendering

ABCRodney
ABCRodney
3 months ago
Reply to  Andy reeves

Andy the people protesting are nothing to do with the BAe Shipbuilding Unions. Use your eyes, do any of them look like Welders or Metal Workers ? And besides which they actually know that they are building T26 Frigates for the RN and nothing to do with Israel.
Today these Muppets got their 15 minutes of fame by “blocking the front gate”. The actual workers drive to work and park onsite via different gates, they were quite happily working.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

Unfortunately my MK1 human eyeball isn’t as good as it was but one of them looks like a forklift driver I used to know

Coll
Coll
3 months ago

Workers for Palestine blocking fellow workers from working. Know doubt the same unionists that called for more investment in the industry.

ABCRodney
ABCRodney
3 months ago
Reply to  Coll

No trust me they are usually unemployable in any manufacturing industry. Not Trades Unionists just semi professional “activists”.
Next week they will glued to a Bridge or something.

Coll
Coll
3 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

Maybe we should send them over on the C-17s to help in Gaza and see how they change their mind.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago
Reply to  Coll

Without pay

Jim
Jim
3 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

That’s my experience, most people in the trade unions have no interest in such matters, it’s middle class activists that have infiltrated them that do.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

More procurement failing. They shouldn’t have been given the work a investment they have.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago
Reply to  Coll

F’ALL TO DO WITH PALESTINE CANCEL THE WORK THEY HAVEN’T DONE.

ABCRodney
ABCRodney
3 months ago
Reply to  Andy reeves

I have come to the conclusion that you need to lie down. 🥴

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

Forget that, I’m just disgusted by it.

ABCRodney
ABCRodney
3 months ago
Reply to  Andy reeves

Right the headline about a 1000 Trades Unionists was a quote from “Workers for a free Palestine” who along with Pro Palestinians carried out the protest. No TU members from BAe or the workforce were involved as they entered by alternative entrances. The Glasgow Times interviewed 3 of the “workers”, consisting of A Carer, Youth Worker and a Visual Artist ! Naff all to do with people building the ships nor their TU’s. Daft as it may sound to you but today BAe announced they were recruiting 300 new Apprentices for BAe in Glasgow, which pretty well sums reality up.… Read more »

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
3 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

Well said.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

Press gang them

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

Since I was retired I do a lot of that

Andrew D
Andrew D
3 months ago

Doctor’s ,Nurses ,Bus driver’s Trains drives Teachers .Honestly what’s going on with this country of ours 🙄 🇬🇧

Nick C
Nick C
3 months ago
Reply to  Andrew D

It’s called virtue signalling, or “look at me, I’m better than you”.

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke
3 months ago
Reply to  Nick C

The train drivers are better off that almost everyone else already.

There was a train driver, in the Telegraph, asking how to invest his £90k per year. Oddly comments were not switched on – I wonder why – I think he might have had some choice advice!

grizzler
grizzler
3 months ago

yes i saw that – unbelievable isn’t it Purely money grabbing tw@ts.
I knew a Rail Union Steward a few years ago ..nice guy until he started on politics and his ‘brothers’ – it was like a time warp back to the 70′- pathetic

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
3 months ago

As a railwayman myself, I agree with you.
There are things that the rail companies want to do that are worth striking for. Drivers pay is not one of them.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago

Some hard working people are denied the right to the expression of the right to free speech prison officers and others go to work in the hope, not expectation of going home at the end of the day their problems are aplenty but they are professionals with a sense of duty, these . metal Bangers don’t warrant a job there cancel the orders and shut them down

ABCRodney
ABCRodney
3 months ago

Network Rail ?

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
3 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

Yes mate. Signalman.

ABCRodney
ABCRodney
3 months ago

Wife works in EMCC 😉

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
3 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

Ooo. TRC, Control, or Sig?

ABCRodney
ABCRodney
3 months ago

She is a Logistics Specialist so spends her life scheduling possessions and contractors to maintain the track.
Old title was On Track Planner.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
3 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

Yes, those buggers keep bothering me on nights! 🤔🙄😆

John Clark
John Clark
3 months ago

” draw your money out of the bank in £50 notes, roll them tightly together, put a elastic band round it and shove it where the sun don’t shine”

That would have been my comment, if I was alloy to add it SB…

ChrisLondon
ChrisLondon
3 months ago

I think that that may be lies (The supposed ‘train driver’ not you). I work for an agency that provides cover for posts in the rail industry. I work in the south east where wages are highest. The train drivers I know are on a basic wage of just under 40k. It is definitely possible to get to 60k with a lot of overtime; 90k I am dubious about as even possible. There are several overlapping issues involved in the strikes. For ASLEF, the drivers union, the main one is that they do not want overtime to be compulsory. At… Read more »

Ian
Ian
3 months ago
Reply to  ChrisLondon

All I will say is they do a basic 35 hour week

ChrisLondon
ChrisLondon
3 months ago
Reply to  Ian

And for that they get just under 40k in the SE, less elsewhere.

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke
3 months ago
Reply to  ChrisLondon

An interesting perspective.

The news is dominated by a Mr Crow who does little other than raise voters’ blood pressure – raising voters’ blood pressure = MPs post bags fill up – hardens opposition…..

DH
DH
3 months ago

Yep SB, I bet there was. 👍😉

Tommo
Tommo
3 months ago
Reply to  Nick C

Woke Socialists, or (Socialism works for those who don’t Brigade)

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago
Reply to  Tommo

Old news it never. Worked for commies in the 70’s it mustn’t now

Tommo
Tommo
3 months ago
Reply to  Andy reeves

Alas Andy we are dealing with the retards of Tiktok singularity a Woke hivemind or as us Old gits would say ” jumping on the bandwagon for the applause “

DH
DH
3 months ago
Reply to  Tommo

👍Fellow ol’git👌😊

Python15
Python15
3 months ago
Reply to  DH

Likewise

Pleiades
Pleiades
3 months ago
Reply to  Tommo

Haha the irony is lost on you of course. Good riddance to old farts like you and your fellow senile, delusional cretins.

Tommo
Tommo
3 months ago
Reply to  Pleiades

Do enlighten us old gits with words of
more than one syllable, on why a Shipbuilding facility was blockaded by people who have nothing too do with the construction of ships hulls .

AlexS
AlexS
3 months ago
Reply to  Nick C

This is not virtue signalling. This is much worse. it is me me me. It is totalitarian thinking people that do not respect others. Anti civilization.

If this continues t will end in civil war.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago
Reply to  AlexS

Stuff em shut them down

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago
Reply to  AlexS

We’ll invade Scotland again and pull down their ya

ABCRodney
ABCRodney
3 months ago
Reply to  Andy reeves

You do know that the act of Union happened after the King James VI of Scotland inherited England and Wales after his Aunty died don’t you ?

Jonno
Jonno
3 months ago
Reply to  AlexS

These people are disconnected.

Mr Bell
Mr Bell
3 months ago
Reply to  Andrew D

Please don’t put nurses into your anger management list.
A few facts for you. Yes nurses strikes but that was after 16 years of well below inflation pay rises. They settled on a 6% pay rise which was yet again very much below inflation and well below the average 8.9% private sector pay rises this year.
So some sense of proportionality and a comparison to the wider jobs market and employment sectors please.
The facts as outlined speak for themselves. Despite the pay rise this year most NHS staff are about 17-22% worse off now then they were in 2010

Mr Bell
Mr Bell
3 months ago
Reply to  Mr Bell

Nurses are on such a great deal, that’s why there are 60,000 full time nursing vacancies in the English NHS alone.

Expat
Expat
3 months ago
Reply to  Mr Bell

What did the private sector get in pension rises? Your right we need to have sense of proportion not just in the take home salary but the entire package. My pension pot actually lost money last year!!!!

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Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke
3 months ago
Reply to  Expat

You were not the only one with a shrinking pension!

DH
DH
3 months ago

Tee hee, hope that’s not a euphemism, SB. 😳

Steve M
Steve M
3 months ago
Reply to  Mr Bell

I wish someone would tell me where these private sector companies are the company i work gave us 3% this and last for the previous 10 years we got fook all not even inflation so really hate these sweeping statements. Refuse to talk about railways, i don’t use anymore unreliable / expensive and most are under worked.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago
Reply to  Steve M

There has been a vast t of money invested in the Clyde and now all of the financial assistance they might still be getting should be channelled into a new yard

Jim
Jim
3 months ago
Reply to  Andrew D

When people grow up with 30 years of the news telling them they are all going to die from global warming this is the result.

The effect is compounded when the average over 50 year old Tory voter tells them they don’t give a ****, they don’t believe in science and they insist they have to cook everything on gas and drive an SUV.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago
Reply to  Andrew D

It’s like the 1970’s again dinosaur unions holding the country to ransom get real. Cancel the orders.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago
Reply to  Andrew D

It fallen into a time machine and we’re stuck in the 1970’s,

FieldLander
FieldLander
3 months ago

It is not much better at the top, ask Rishi.
Unionists know Govan does not contribute much to the F35. More about publicity.
If every one goes home today it will not delay the first T26!

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago
Reply to  FieldLander

They don’t deserve the T26 Work that they have. Pause building on the slipways with the threat of not restarting it again.its been done before.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
3 months ago

As usual, the enemy within. My cynical take.

Is Palestine really their beef, or just a convenient one to protest against the West?

John
John
3 months ago

The enemy within indeed. Peel that onion and I would venture you will find two hostile state actors stirring the pot.

BigH1979
BigH1979
3 months ago

99% conspiract theorists, rent-a-protester and gullible simpletons. 1% insidious actors. At least in the pre internet days the leaders would have to put their heads above the parapet and actually be charasmatic to whip up support. Nowadays they stay in the shadows…… probably weren’t even onsite (the weather looks pretty bad).

Tommo
Tommo
3 months ago
Reply to  BigH1979

And not even in this Country one expects the Internet knows no borders BigH

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago
Reply to  BigH1979

I thought communism was dead

Expat
Expat
3 months ago

They support free Palestine under Hamas an Iranian Proxy, I’ve said before its a contradiction. None of them would last 5 minutes under Hamas rule.

I always look at want these people don’t do, there was no where near the same level of support for Ukraine amongst the same bunch, so you do have to ask is this really about freedom. They don’t chase down Turkeys occupation of Cyprus or campaign for a free Kurdish lands.

Bringer of facts
Bringer of facts
3 months ago
Reply to  Expat

The two-state solution has been on offer for a long time and could have been settled a long time ago, but this conflict is really about religious supremacy which is why Hamas gets so much support over there. Many people flee from religious-based persecution in the Middle East and Asia and come to the West only to start setting up their communities/enclaves that promote the very religious practices that oppressed them in the first place. I recently read some blogs by Israeli-Arabs (The few that accept Israel and choose it as their homeland) Their quality of life is so much… Read more »

Last edited 3 months ago by Bringer of facts
russ
russ
3 months ago

There are fads for these things. When I was a student my Uni put on buses ship students to “support the miners”. Since I was one of the very few students from a working class background, I had strong reason to think that I was the only one with any real connections (my dad was on strike). It just didn’t feel right to see all these priviliged ones whose parents were (in some cases) minor aristocracy. Few wanted to help by giving money to such as my family (which would have been most useful) most just wanted to be seen… Read more »

ABCRodney
ABCRodney
3 months ago

Just leave it at protest. As that’s all they do, there are actually people who do this for a living it doesn’t matter the cause it’s against “the system’ so it can be “CND”, “Just stop” etc etc etc.
If you know anyone who deals with them (Met, MPD or SB) they will happily tell you that the same faces are there agitating all the time.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
3 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

👍

Tommo
Tommo
3 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

Rent a mob paid for by NGOs

Wasp snorter
Wasp snorter
3 months ago

I think you are right Daniele

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago

Just a reflection of the folly of giving orders to them they’re pathetic in the production table and a national disgrace the UK MUST GET WARSHIPS BUILT ABROAD, and sod the Clyde l.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
3 months ago
Reply to  Andy reeves

Andy, this is tiny fringe, that doesn’t warrant building vessels elsewhere. Warships in the UK are built in Scotland.

Martin
Martin
3 months ago

The clever ones who protest any thing, rent a mob of not bright people.

Bringer of facts
Bringer of facts
3 months ago

These people should go to Gaza and do their protest where they will be readily kidnapped by Hamas. Maybe a stint of living under Sharia law might bring them to their senses.

russ
russ
3 months ago

Not going to🙁 happen though is it?

Tommo
Tommo
3 months ago

Quite a few would be thrown of roofs these protesters haven’t got a clue on how Hamas operate their just fed Tik tok clips and blindly follow without realising their being used

Bulkhead
Bulkhead
3 months ago

Shoot them, Shoot them. 😎

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago
Reply to  Bulkhead

Stone them.(much more fun).

Tommo
Tommo
3 months ago
Reply to  Andy reeves

Half of them were probably Stoned

ABCRodney
ABCRodney
3 months ago

Oh please don’t make me laugh ! When ever I see a sign with “Workers for…” or “Trade Unionists for” I just laugh at them. I guarantee that not one of them is a Worker nor a Member of an Industrial Trades Union as most of them are unemployable 🤣 It’s a bit like the folks you see selling “Socialist Worker” ask one what they do for a living and it’s Student, post grad or media consultant, in fact anything other than actually being a hands on Worker. I am willing to bet that at knocking off time, they will… Read more »

Tommo
Tommo
3 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

“Socialism works for those who don’t ” is a great saying

ABCRodney
ABCRodney
3 months ago

If you ever meet someone who is either going on about Palestine or is ranting on about Israel. Don’t try arguing with them, just gently ask them a simple question “what do you think about the Hamas Charter ?”then listen to the sound of silence.
Though I will say Israel needs to do something about its loony fringe in the West Bank and Netanyahu.

Jim
Jim
3 months ago

Stupid thing is their is a factory in Edinburgh (Leanardo) that actually does produce components for F35.

The stupidity of shutting down a Glasgow ship yard is beyond me.

ABCRodney
ABCRodney
3 months ago
Reply to  Jim

The Headline is BS they blockaded one gate, which is great cause the vast majority of the workers drive in and park up using other ones. 🥴
Never seen a welder or steel worker wearing a nice fashionable Palestinian Kuffiyeh headdress.

Tommo
Tommo
3 months ago
Reply to  Jim

It’s because someone saw a ships pennant number F35 and not being bright thought it was an Aircraft Jim

DH
DH
3 months ago
Reply to  Jim

Ach, now you’ve told them Jim. Fsake 😁

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago
Reply to  Jim

Do they produce any pilots l?

Mark F
Mark F
3 months ago

I suspect that most of those in attendance are also in receipt of government handouts, and don’t realise that the UK defence industry, along with financial institutions is a major tax contributor to fund them.
i would temporarily detain all of them. Check validity to be in the UK, check of in receipt of benefits due to illness, care issues etc, and then act accordingly.

monkey spanker
monkey spanker
3 months ago

I’m confused. I thought unions were for workers to have a way of lots of employees one voice for work related issues and to help employees during work related matters.
What’s a Union doing talking about this stuff?
Have I got what a Union is completely wrong?

ABCRodney
ABCRodney
3 months ago
Reply to  monkey spanker

Nope they are “workers for xyz” nowt to do with the TU’s nor workers for that matter.

DH
DH
3 months ago
Reply to  monkey spanker

Yeh, always crying 😢, Oh that’s onions. 🕳️Bye.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
3 months ago
Reply to  DH

,

Mike
Mike
3 months ago

Madness, it’s a pity the protestors aren’t in Ukraine or Gaza. If they were they might realize what keeps them safe. It is not the aircraft or manufacturer that kill people it is the person who orders the use. I recommend they get wet outside the Israeli embassy or better still be productive and go to work and stop claiming benefits or living off parents.

Matt C
Matt C
3 months ago

Guardian readers.

Tommo
Tommo
3 months ago
Reply to  Matt C

How do you think their the first with the headline ?

DH
DH
3 months ago
Reply to  Matt C

X, Beano
🕳️🙃