The first of the new Tide class tankers, RFA Tidespring, has arrived in Cornwall for customisation a year later than planned.
Minister for Defence Procurement Harriett Baldwin said:
“RFA Tidespring’s UK arrival is a key milestone in 2017, the Year of the Royal Navy, which will also see the MOD develop world-class ships and submarines in support of Britain’s role as a leading naval power.
Backed by a rising Defence budget, the delivery of the Tide Class tankers is a crucial element of the Government’s £178 billion plan to ensure our armed forces have the equipment they need.”
According to MoD, the customisation work is helping to support around 300 jobs at A&P Falmouth. The UK work content in the wider Tide Class programme is worth around £150 million, sustaining further jobs at 27 UK-based companies. The project is being delivered well within budget by the MoD.
After a period of customisation and fitting out, Tidespring will embark on four months of trials off Scotland before she enters service with the fleet.
Internal wiring issues had delayed the acceptance of RFA Tidespring, the first of four new naval tankers until January this year.
The first of the four military tankers built in South Korea was finally been handed over to the Ministry of Defence in January, over a year later than planned.
The Tide class tanker is a class of four fast fleet tankers that will enter service with the Royal Fleet Auxiliary. The 37,000 tonne ships will provide fuel, food, fresh water, ammunition and other supplies to Royal Navy vessels around the world.
First steel was cut on the 24th of June 2014 for RFA Tidespring, she was expected to arrive in Falmouth in Spring 2016 to allow A&P Group to fit military equipment such as communications gear. Her three sister ships were to follow at six-month intervals.
Defence procurement minister Harriett Baldwin earlier blamed “delays in finalising elements of electrical design and the installation of Multi-Cable Transit insulation in accordance with new legislative regulations” which have now been resolved.
The UK still expects to have all four tankers delivered by 2018.
Is it being fitted with CIWS or will it be a sitting duck?
Also, get MARS ordered and building, in equal or greater numbers to what we have now with the Forts.
Couple of Phalanx main CIWS so I believe. Long thought RN had plenty of ships which could do with something like the Russian Kashtan CIWS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELgua-Slx2o
Tides / MARS / Albions / Ocean (replacement) all candidates for something like this
That Kashtan CIWS does look impressive but it’s a very different beast to Phalanx in that it appears to require significant deck penetration to install for things like the missile reloaders whereas Phalanx doesn’t require any deck penetration and so can be moved from ship to ship as required. I do like the scaleability of the architecture though with single fire control and up to 6 firing units. I wonder whether a re-architecting of Phalanx and SeaRAM could produce something at least somewhat similar for a low cost integrated gun plus missile architecture that doesn’t require deck penetration.
There’s also the project to use the CT-40 cannon in an integrated CIWS that looked interesting (I forget the project name). That would give the guns a bit more oomph and probably avoid the need for DS30 in a defensive mix vs current Phalanx + DS30. I seem to remember that the CT-40 CIWS proposal had a similar multiple firing unit architecture to the Kashtan; add either SeaRAM, LMM and even possibly containerised Sea Ceptor and that might make an interesting and more home-grown non-deck-penetrating solution.
Hi Julian,
Great reply. I’m happy whatever the solution so long as we have one. I just feel too many of our very limited hulls are very vulnerable and won’t always be in a protected convoy / strike group. So much so that we should be designing similar capability into all new builds.
Its been interesting following Tidespring across the pacific via Japan and Hawaii, through the Panama Canal (great photos) and across the Atlantic. Lots of to-ing and fro-ing for 24 hours off Falmouth before making Port. Nice assignment for the crew and good on them.
Great to see the new class of very impressive fleet tankers arriving.
would be great to fit out the Tide class with not just ciws/ phalanx and the usual mix of 30mm and 20mm light guns but sea ceptor as well.
that would then enable the tide class if complemented with ASW helicopters to act as a convoy leader/ group escort. If such a role were ever needed again.
🙂
In an emergency can the F-35B land on this?
I 100% think every RN hull with a big enough heli pad should be adapted and capable of landing / refuelling F-35s in an emergency as policy.
It’s got to be cheaper to paint the pad with the special coating and make it strong enough to at least land on and just sit there until they make it back to base where it can be winched off (or however they’d manage) than have an F-35 ditch into the sea.
The costings would be interesting. Based on the carrier info it’s not just the heat coating, apparently it’s also preventing the destruction of deck equipment and bits of superstructure due to side-wash. For instance I suspect on any of our ships with hangars the hanger doors would never open again due to buckling from the heat of an F-35B landing so there would be some pretty serious repair and in some cases replacement of stuff needed in the areas of the ship close to the helipad.
All good points. I just hope with British inguinuity we will maximise whatever is capable of being done. It’s not just optimising chance of survival for the £100m plane and its pilot, it’s the lack of ability to replace if we lose them.
I know it’s a different order of magnitude c/f the F35b, but I remember a Sea Harrier once landed on a Spanish freighter rather than end up in the oggin. Tidespring can be seen on this webcam in Falmouth harbour.
http://www.falmouthphotos.com/webcams/dockyard/
“in support of Britain’s role as a leading naval power.” Bollocks, not any more.
Hi DB
When we talk depth 100% agreed!
Lack of numbers, Escorts, Rotary Platforms & Amphib Assault are all serious ******* UK security risks which would have Churchill turning in his grave, but as a carrier strike force by early 2020s only America will match it;
QnLiz / F-35 / Merlin
Type 45
Type 26 / Wildcat
Astute
Tide
Fully equipped, that will be impressive power projection and worthy of the sentance ‘a leading naval power’.
@ Ian
I agree with your sentiment entirely but I am very worried about your two most operative words ‘fully equipped’. Can we honestly recall the last time our fleet escorts went to sea fully equipped? I recall the uproar in 2011 when it was disclosed that one of our frigates involved in the Libya Op had just 4 Sea Wolf missiles embarked! Fired in pairs as is SOP, that gave the ship’s complement a grand total of two chances to protect themselves!
Personally, I don’t see the Tide class getting their own CIWS and they will only be cross-decked as needed due to the fact we don’t have enough to make them a permanent fit.
So much for Fallon’s 178Bn equipment plan. This HMG and prior to be fair, are simply delusional in their belief that we are a serious naval power these days!
I don’t think Fallon deludes himself about the state of the UK Forces post 2010 or today and the measures we needed to take to restore some fiscal and economic stability. Lets not forget what has been funded in only 6 years since then despite having to lose Harrier and two carriers. I class Nimrod as an embarrassment and its passing was a merciful end.
* Choosing Harrier rather than Tornado was a no brainer as it allowed time for Typhoon to be upgraded to its full potential in a planned and steady way which must have saved a lot of money.
* Astute subs are now being delivered well and are a step change in sub warfare.
* Two new carriers being delivered when we were scrabbling to fund one.
* F-35 orders in place with major upgrades and contracts at Marham (love it or hate it)
* Type 26 now on its way (although IndyRef2 has spannered the works somewhat).
* 4 Successor Trident subs ordered
* Type 31 seems to be on its way
* New Tide tankers
* A fleet of new Voyager A2A tankers
* A fleet of C-17 and now A-400M strategic freighters
* Poseidon Maritime aircraft and new base
* Challenger 2 upgrades
* New Armoured vehicles
Etc Etc….
And £178 Bn buys a lot of kit however you cut it up ….
I just think that given where we were we have done very well.
Which new armoured vehicles are those?
Several army units are equipped with 50 year old FV432/bulldogs that have zero protection against IEDs and RPG attacks.
Availability of these vehicles is less than 50%.
Yet there is no plan is place to replace them.
The UK armed forces have some very serious problems regards equipment and I don’t see those problems being addressed.
Chris – since 2010 the current government has just exacerbated our problems in defence with no strategic planning and all undertaken by the archetypal bean counter. Scrap Nimrod yes but an urgent replacement was required. Scrapping the harrier was a mistake as a small seed corn unit could have been put in place perhaps working with the US Marines and then increased in numbers as the new carriers came on line. We do make the most of what we have already bought and paid for and it would be better than having a super carrier with very few aircraft to put on it. How many F35B’s have we actually ordered? We have actually ordered OPV;s because we cant get the design and price right for the Frigates we actually need. Our 23’s will now cost more to keep in service or perhaps another cut to come? along with RFA Diligence and the other RFA’s laid up. We now have our Defence Secretary hiding behind the 1st Sea Lord as he proposes cutting one our last and truly world class units namely the Royal Marines. You cannot make it up. Cliches about our priorities such as the number of admirals, horses, aerobatic teams and how much we pay for the private education of officers children come to mind. Its all ok though because we have a military covenant.
Mike – 589 of the new Ajax range of Armoured Vehicles?
http://www.army.mod.uk/news/28476.aspx
Warrior is being upgraded to increase operational life and they will also receive a complete overhaul to ensure it can operate effectively out to 2040.
But if you can only find one fault in my quite long list I will take that …