In a bizarre move, Russian state television has taken a leap away from reality, with so-called “experts” advocating for the training of Scottish terrorists in Russia.

In a recent broadcast, they discussed the idea of preparing 15,000 Scottish volunteers in Siberia as a way to counter the United Kingdom’s efforts in training Ukrainian soldiers.

This provocative statement has not only raised eyebrows but has also drawn widespread condemnation from people in Scotland and around the world.

The video clip, which has since gone viral, features a Russian “expert” stating, “I do not understand why we do not train Scottish terrorists. I assure you, if we prepare 15,000 Scottish volunteers in Siberia, they will stop preparing Ukrainians.”

This outlandish and dangerous proposition seems to be a misguided attempt to retaliate against the UK’s support for Ukraine in its ongoing conflict with Russia.

However, it’s important to note that, by and large, people in Scotland staunchly oppose Russia’s actions in Ukraine. Many have taken to social media to denounce the idea of training Scottish terrorists, expressing their solidarity with the Ukrainian people and condemning Russia’s aggression in the region. This misguided proposal, therefore, has only served to further alienate Russia from the international community and highlight the concerning disconnect between Russian state media and reality.

It is crucial to understand that the nonsense spouted on Russian state TV is primarily intended for domestic consumption. While these outlandish statements make them look foolish on the international stage, they are designed as internal propaganda and should not be taken seriously. The primary goal of such broadcasts is to shape public opinion within Russia and promote a narrative that aligns with the government’s objectives.

This incident serves as a clear indication that Russian state television is not only losing its grip on reality but is also promoting dangerous and destabilising ideas. By advocating for the training of terrorists in Scotland, these “experts” have not only demonstrated their lack of understanding of the international political landscape but have also revealed their willingness to promote violence as a means to achieve their goals.

George Allison
George has a degree in Cyber Security from Glasgow Caledonian University and has a keen interest in naval and cyber security matters and has appeared on national radio and television to discuss current events. George is on Twitter at @geoallison

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      • And if there is going to be Scottish terrorists just drop us off at Moscow and we can have a laugh tryin to blow up wee Jimmy kranki Putin.👍

      • All the Union Flag burning ‘Butchers Apron’ types, for a start. Many of them would like nothing more than NI style ‘armed resistance’ campaign, as the dream of a democratic vote in favour of independence fades into the distance

        • Hi Mac, we had a democratic vote 2014 it’s just some people can’t take losing out on what they wanted, I didn’t agree with Brexit but sometimes you just have to go with the flo and chill.😁

          • That was 9 years ago! If you wake up you will see that the world and circumstances has changed quite a bit since then! While you are at it, why not scrap general elections as they give us a choice of changing our minds every 5 years, and we made our minds up in 2019 so why change! What is the difference? Or do you propose that we plough on with the wrong strategy without reconsidering or rethinking. The world (and disinformation) was a different place then. Times have moved on, so re-evaluating whether or not a previous decision remains right with the benefit of hindsight is a perfectly valid and intelligent action.

          • When has the world not been changing it’s always been that way that doesn’t mean u then have to vote all the time and voting who runs the Scottish parliament which let’s be honest is little more than a city council is not the same as voting to leave a union/country

          • Of course it means we have to evaluate what regime we have over us! We do that every 5 years anyway. What is the difference? The world has moved on so we have to stay stuck in the old regime forever? What if circumstances change and we need to adapt?

        • I’m sure there are some north of the border who are that stupid. But the numbers must be very low indeed. England and Scotland are much stronger when standing united. History proves that quite convincingly. Just look at what we achieved when working together, the empire ruled 25% of the world! With bagpipes (and men in skirts) fronting many of our greatest conquests. A sight guaranteed to strike fear in the heart of any native floppy.

          Now replace the word Scottish with Irish Republicans, and he may just find 15,000 volunteers. Some of them from New York and Boston. Unlike George Bush who needed Blairs help with the “war on terror” and other things WMD related. The current usurper Beijing biden would turn a blind eye.

          Something tells me that this sound bite from Russian TV is just that. A spoonful of sugar laced propaganda for the masses. Propping up the next mobilisation of conscripts for a possible war with NATO/Poland. It seems the russians are convinced that NATO troops are active in Ukraine.
          Who thinks they aren’t?

  1. Julia Davis posts on twitter (with subtitles) clips of Russian talkshows, something of an eye opener, but the above is nothing new. Here is one such example from the other day which links into the Russian media monitor on You tube

    • Unfortunately you cannot ignore this…and this is not actually propaganda for the world this is creating a dialog for its population…it’s creating a more and more extremism view of the west within the Russian population.

      • You can ignore it. I do. If you give them “airtime” it plays into their hands. Propaganda is the enemy of truth. Truth is the only thing worth listening to. Both “sides” in this Slav issue are guilty of some whoppers. We got dragged into something that has sweet FA to do with us. It is a classic proxy war. If individuals get sucked in? Their loss.

        • That is where we cannot agree, first it’s not a proxy war…its in no way the definition of a proxy war…..nations providing another support to defend itself from a neighbour who has attacked it is not a proxy war ( the definition of a proxy war is that two powers us two lesser powers or groups) As for the second, we did actual sign a treaty document to give Ukrainian security assurance of its sovereignty..so what we are doing really just about covers that. For a third Putin is an ultra Nationalist authoritarian and essentially needs to be at war to maintain power..if he finishes with Ukraine he will then pick a fight with another nation until he crosses a NATO red line and causes a general war in Europe.

          • This is definitely a proxy war (at least from one side). This is nothing new. Nations have been doing this for thousands of years. Normally, the proxy war antagonists like someone else between them & the actual war. So far NATO et al are the main proxy participants. Russia, is rather lacking in proxies this time round. Is there a destination for a one sided proxy war? In the early part of WW2, was USA a proxy? Someone give Oxford dictionary people a call for clarification.

            Note: this is not a pro Russia comment. Russia is well aware they have purposely kicked a hornets nest they should have & could have avoided. The proxies would not have become involved if Russia had not struck first (& so badly). The 2014 divide line was as well as carved in stone as far as the west was concerned. This war has a way to go yet.

          • Hi DJ that is a bit of an incorrect assumption on the meaning of proxy war..the older definition is:

            ”a war fought between groups of smaller countries that each represent the interests of other larger powers, and may have help and support from these”.

            a more modern definition that encompasses all of the modern proxy wars looks like this:

            ” Proxy warfare today is best defined as sponsorship of conventional or irregular forces that lie outside the constitutional order of states. In the Greater Middle East and its periphery, multiple states have adopted limited war strategies predicated on murky command structures that allow sponsors and proxies to cross red lines and bend international legal norms seemingly without consequence”

            Candace RondeauxDavid Sterman 2019 ( new America and ASU Center on the Future of War )

            You cannot have a proxy war in which one very large state actor simply invades another sovereign state for its own purposes…that’s an actual war between Russia the belligerent and Ukraine the nation defending its sovereignty…

            This is really important as Russia wants the dialogue that this is the west actually sponsoring a proxy war against Russia. It’s a very very nasty trap to fall into..think about what you actually mean when you say it’s a proxy war..what the dialogue you are supporting entails…..for this to be a proxy war the west would have needed to have developed Ukraine’s military and then got them to cause a war to be fought with Russia….helping a nation defend itself is not fighting a proxy war…there are varied definitions of proxy war but supporting a state to defend itself after its been invaded is not covered in any definition…..the lend lease of destroyers from the US to UK in 1939/40 was not the US fighting a proxy war….the UK sending the BEF to France in 1939 was not fighting a proxy war…..

            the best summary of this I have found is from a Dr of conflict, diplomacy and international relations at Kings College and he wrote:

            “is the term ‘proxy war’ is applicable to what is happening in Ukraine? In short, no. While it does fit Putin’s role in provoking an insurgency in the Donbas and the so-called Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics (DNR and LNR), it fails to properly describe the inter-state war that is currently raging. More damning still, it denies the Ukrainians their own agency and belittles their own right to self-defence.”

            Language is important and Russia promotes this poor use of language as it literally supports them on the world stage.

          • I actually feel very strongly about this in regards to the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the West support of Ukraine in defending its borders as being described as a proxy war..I think it’s very damaging and not at all correct.

            I think we all need to be a bit clear on what proxy war means means:

            the older definition is:

            ” a war fought between groups of small countries that each represent the interests of other larger powers having a long term relationship with the large powers and encouraged to fight for the interest of the larger power”

            This does not really work in the post Cold War modern climate especially in complex places like the Middle East so a more modern definition that encompasses all this is:

            “ proxy warfare today is best defined as sponsorship of conventional or irregular forces that lie outside the constitutional order of states. In the greater Middle East and it’s periphery, multiple states have adopted limited war strategies predicated on mucky command structures that allow Spencer’s and proxies to cross red lines and Bend international norms seemingly without consequence.”

            Candace Rondeaux and David Sterman 2019, New America and ASC centre on the future of war.

            Basically you cannot have a proxy war in which one very large state actor simply invades another sovereign state for its own purposes…that’s an actual war between Russia the belligerent and Ukraine the nation defending its sovereignty…

            This is really important as Russia wants the dialogue that this is the west actually sponsoring a proxy war against Russia. It’s a very very nasty trap to fall into..think about what you actually mean when you say it’s a proxy war..what the dialogue you are supporting entails…..for this to be a proxy war the west would have needed to have developed Ukraine’s military and then got them to cause a war to be fought with Russia….

            Helping a nation defend itself is not fighting a proxy war…there are varied definitions of proxy war but supporting a state to defend itself after its been invaded is not covered in any definition…..the lend lease of destroyers from the US to UK in 1939/40 was not the US fighting a proxy war….the UK sending the BEF to France in 1939 was not fighting a proxy war…..

            But actually you can say that Russia potentially did enact a proxy war against Ukraine in 2014 and was running a proxy war against it for 8 years before deciding that was not working and kicked of a true war by invading it….or actually you could say the true war started in 2014 when Russia actually did invaded Ukraine via Crimea and the east and used some form of proxy like conflict to provide deniability in the international community.

            The best summary of this I have found is from a Dr of conflict, diplomacy and international relations at Kings College and he wrote:

            ” is the term proxy applicable to what is happening in Ukraine . In short no. While it does fit Putins role in provoking an insurgency in the Donbas and the so called Donetsk and Luhansk Peoples republics its fails to properly describe the inter state war that is currently raging. more damning still, it denies the Ukrainians their own agency and belittles their own right to self defence”

            So as a final thought:

            Language is important and Russia promotes this poor use of language as it literally supports them on the world stage.

        • You’re either here trying to spread disinformation or really down the rabbit hole and a sandwich short of a picnic.

        • We signed up to the defence of the Ukraine when they agreed to abandon nuclear weapons. Show Again, Parade 07:00 tomorrow.

  2. I’m surprised our resident Nazi supporter Johnny fascist inMK hasn’t linked it to one of his posts to justify some nonsense or other! And Johnny boy, I know you will read this, if your going to answer make it a condemnation of Putins illegal invasion of Ukraine and not your diversionary shite you always reply with…..

  3. The moment the UK became so heavily involved in the support of Ukraine we exposed ourselves to many types of Russian retaliation. Supporting and supplying terrorist groups is one such instrument.

    • I think you will find that they have been carrying out these actions for many years it’s simply a return to the ways of the Soviets that Putin so admires. There have been reports recently about plans to destabilise the Baltic States from 2018 onwards published only last week and indeed the whole attempt to move NATO back to 90s borders was an attempt to free up whole areas of Eastern Europe to be exploited and manipulated in similar fashion in concert with their Oligarch and Mafia ‘business’ associates destabilising political and economic norms in Eastern, Central and indeed even Western European States as we have belatedly found out to our shame. A lot of the spies that have recently been thrown out of Norway, Germany and Poland, geez even Australia, amongst others in recent times were suspected to be attempting such infiltration and manipulations amongst local perceived useful agitators and groups. So it seems they have been getting their ‘retaliation’ in first to specifically put the frighteners on those who just might want to think twice about coming out against Russian tyranny. Thankfully for the most part they have failed dismally. Hell they even tried to tap up Stoltenberg in the early years of this Century as someone who could be useful in furthering political unrest.

      • I’m sure if we were privy to the subterranean world of espionage we would firmly close it within a few chapters. No nation is clean in respect to its secret services, especially West V East. There can be no doubt that all our services are working overtime to avert whatever the Russians are attempting to throw in our direction. Some may say, it’s the cost of friendship and support in times of need.

    • Only got to go back to The Troubles when the Soviets armed and trained IRA terrorists.

      All the more reason to stand up to Putin.

          • If he was just evil, he would be less of a worry…I think he’s also a narcissist running on an internal delusion…backed up by being a psychopath with no empathy for any other human being….AKA Hitter mark 2…he’s also got a nation full of rampant nationalists with a grudge…I honestly think we many be in the shit TBH ( I hope not but I think unless someone removes him we are).

        • Putin is not a thug, he is a very nasty authoritarian who uses rampant Nationalism and fear of other as a tool to control the masses…the man will find a foreign enemy as he needs one. The man is very likely a psychopath and Simply has no empathy and is entirely controlled by his own needs, looking at the the way he develops his image he may very well be one of those most deadly birds the psychopath and narcissist….which is a disaster because he will not give a shit about anyone and believe whatever makes him feel better is fine no matter the cost to others and also follows whatever grandiose idea he thinks will satisfy his need…..the man may just be a person who’s happy to kill millions for his own self need, just like hitter…and just like hitter he has a nation with a nation grudge and a population who seem to suck up is every word.

          • In fairness, I’m not convinced Putin actually has majority domestic support. More the case he has successfully oppressed any dissent, and achieved near total control of media messaging.

            Unsurprisingly, Putin is more popular with older Russians, who get all their news from TV, while younger people who go online are much less supportive. The top 8 smartphone apps downloaded in Russia in the last year are all VPN apps.

            Also some very interesting street interviews on Youtube, with lots of vague replies from Russians skirting around the issues, like they fully know what’s what but are sensibly keeping their mouth shut.

    • Thank goodness you weren’t involved in protecting Britain in WW2!

      It’s not simply about supporting the great Ukrainian people, but standing up against staggering cruelty to human-kind, and of fascist domination and threats to world peace in the modern world.

      If we all were to turn a blind eye for the sake of self-preservation, then where do you think the fascists would stop (before it’s too late), and what sort of world would you be prepared to leave behind for your offspring and future generations?

          • Come on Jim, are you talking about Hollyrood? Nice camper van by the way “how did that get outside the mother in laws house, it was bought as an election battle bus”, not many terrorists but plenty of bent politicians taking their sheep like supporters for a ride, like the rest of the UK!

    • We became heavily involved back in 1994 when we along with Russia and the US, signed the Budapest Memorandum…

      We sort of have a duty of care to Ukraine to assist them.

    • Well since Russia have already deployed both radiological and nerve agents on British soil any and everything we do is perfectly justified. Quite frankly if the UK had deployed nerve agents or radiological weapons on the Russian homeland its very likely that Russia would have responded violently in some way so the UK has been incredibly restrained over the last decade. Quite frankly the UK would have been within its rights to being enacting article five after the attack on Salisbury.

      • Exactly. Some folks act like Ukraine 2022 invasion is the first bad thing Russia has done and we should ignore it and we will be ok.
        The world has ignored Russia’s actions countless times and it doesn’t work. Putin just pushes it further.

        • The man has been invading countries since he got into power..infact pretty much his first act was to go to war in Chechnya in which Russian forces have used flamethrowers and thermobaric weapons on civilians…infact there is a view that a spate of terror attacks by Chechen separatists in 1999 may have actually been Russian security forces false flag operations to secure Putins Premiership…he has now put troops on the ground in 4 other independent nations…the man has been at war since he came to power…24 years ago.

          • I don’t think there is any doubt that the explosions were a false flag.

            An FSB team from Moscow was caught and arrested by a local Police/ FSB unit after a resident spotted them filling a basement storage room in an appartment block with explosives (the same modus operandi as the previous attacks). The explosives tested as genuine at the scene. Rental records linked the basement storage room to a close associate of Putin.

            The Moscow team was released on direct orders from the Kremlin, and a cover story released about them conducting a “security exercise” using dummy explosives.

            A senior local FSB officer continued to investigate & is said to have unearthed information linking the attcks directly to Putin

            The local FSB officer was called Alexander Litvinenko. I think we all know what happened to him.

  4. Clearly getting more desperate… not surprising after taking 100,000 casualties and 20,000 dead in the Bakhmut Bloodbath, a city that only had an pre-war population of 70,000…
    and the Russian’s still haven’t taken control of it 😆

    • I recommend the Institute for the Study of War website, which gives daily updates on the state of the action and the positions of each side. They base this on geolocated footage and on intercepts of conversations and analysis of propaganda. Todays map indicates that the Russians now have control of about 90% of Bakhmut, or what is left of it. No doubt in a few days they will declare a great and glorious victory, and keep very quiet about the cost in blood. I just hope that by forcing this mini Stalingrad they have used up a lot of their resources so that when the counteroffensive begins either is that much easier(less difficult) for the Ukrainians.
      Another interesting site is Warthog Defense, an American site on YouTube. Once you get past the bombastic delivery they show some fascinating footage of Russian talk shows, all I can say is that either the hosts are really thick, or they have drunk the Kremlin coolaid and dare not speak truth to power. It’s worth it for the laugh.

      • You write exactly what my own initial thought was, Stalingrad. The 6th Army effectively took most of that City, or what was left of it, for little or no strategic purpose whatsoever.

      • Shout out to Perun the Powerpoint god too or if you want more infotainment, also Animarchy’s “Western Propaganda”

  5. Oh please!!! These guys make Tucker Carlson sound sensible.
    Train them, you will need to ween them off deep fried Mars bars first.

  6. The presenter looks like a Russian Orthodox priest in civvies! The sad and worrying part however is that the man in charge wields enormous power and is an evil and increasingly bitter individual who might one day conclude- “what the hell, I might as well go out in a (big) bang”!

  7. Scottish terrorists😂😂😂, these guys are hilarious. U.K. should double the number of Ukrainians being trained.

  8. The Krankys and Rab E Nesbitt join the Scottish National Liberation Front! Maybe the Russians mistake Scottish football hooligans as terrorists?

  9. Clearly the Russians are getting pissed off about our effective support of Ukraine. The solution is to double what we can do, particularly with artillery ammunition. The Russian winter offensive has failed, once again they are reduced to using Tupolev bombers firing cruise missiles at civilians. Slava Ukraini !!

  10. Nice to see all the comments are sensible on this, we don’t want to give these nazis the dignity of debating a nonsense situation. There is no hint of Scottish independence being sought through violence even from the strongest supporters and Mad Vlads invasion has done more than the referendum to reduce demand in Scotland for independence.

    • The SNP’s dodgy accounting hasn’t done much for the cause either. It must leave many independence supporters with a dilemma. Vote for a (allegedly) corrupt party, which may still be their best hope, or pivot to Alba or a new party knowing it will take longer to build up support.

      Putin has done them no favours either. Although joining NATO solves that one and despite any rhetoric, Scotland would be welcomed very quickly after the SSBN issue is resolved.

      • You’ve also got it that sturgeon was such a big character she united both the right and left of independence supporters under the snp. Now she’s gone and with the other issues the snp are facing you can see the support base and even there own MPs/SMPs are starting to spilt down political lines.

      • Maybe the Russian’s could buy the “Scottish terrorists” some more £100K campaign buses. I mean recreational RV’s. I’m sure they all have mother in laws that would benefit from having access to these campaign buses. 

      • Yeah just need to get rid of the other dodgy corrupt government in Westminster rejoin the EU and independence will die a death.

        • I think one out of those two is doable, I think the EU bus left ……. However you feel about it there was a vote…so. probably a discussion on rejoining is for another generation 15-20 years time.

    • Nope as we are a sensible democracy we have been pretty good around managing the stresses between the nations of the Union…let’s be honest the progress in Northern Ireland was no less than a miracle that almost no other nation I’m aware of has ever pulled off.

  11. where are they going to find the deep fried Mars bars to feed them? He really hasn’t thought this through🙂

  12. Return the favour and train Chechens? ☺ Joking.
    Just more riducuous nonesense out of Russia.
    Sad to see what could have been a great nation reduced to this state of desperation.

    • Its because they are losing badly. Their winter offensive has failed with gigantic atritional loses in terms of material and expenditure of ammunition for little to no palpable gains. 20,000 dead and 100,000 wounded isn’t something they can just brush off.
      The head of their military logistics has just been sacked as the apparent inability of Russia to maintain ammunition expenditure at current rates and loses in armoured vehicles and tanks is starting to really bite.
      Russia’s inability to conduct a combined arms, co-ordinated offensive is frankly laughable. A small western/ NATO combined arms unit of say 40-50K troops could probably defeat the entire Russian army deployed in Ukraine with ease.
      The practice of indiscriminate artillery barrages fired off along a huge front line and aiming at nothing other than anticipated Ukrainian positions is just crazy. Even Russia with its huge stockpiles of artillery shells is starting to run out.
      Lets all hope the Ukrainian counter offensive when it comes is every bit as successful as their last counter attack.
      Not sure if it will be- Russia has spent the entire winter building up defensive positions along the entire frontline in significant depth and also started fortifying its national border between Russia and Ukraine. All signs point towards a long and attritionally very expensive war for both sides in terms of human suffering and material losses.
      Putin is without doubt betting on the Russians having the staying power to continue the war indefinitely and lead the Western alliance to eventually question its military and financial support for Ukraine. I think Mad Vlad has backed himself into a corner and now has no other choice but to continue the bloodshed and war until there is an eventual winner.

  13. This guy looks like he is mad, deluded and/or on hallucinogenic drugs. Simple as that. If you believe any of the tosh coming out of the Kremlin and Russian state sponsored media right now you’d have to be certifiably insane.

  14. I suspect this is first met with derision, floored by disbelief and finally a god old fashioned “ get ta f*ck”

  15. New advert in the Daily Herald
    “We need 15,000 Scottish volunteers called for. Great rates of pay, training camps in the lovely environment of Siberia, any interested party just call the Kremlin on Moscow 666 666. ”
    They might get a few crazy far right SNP Braveheart activists going for that.

    • Training would last 5 minutes. Weapon if they are lucky. One way trip to Ukraine.All joking aside I worry there might be more interested in the trip than you might expect.

  16. The Russians need to be careful, the jocks may deploy their secret weapon to Moscow – The Sturgeonator !

  17. The problem with all of this is; the Russian people will be left thinking the West hates them years after this conflict comes to an end. I think most people don’t quite know how to act around Russian people here in the UK when they first meet presently, but this quickly passes.

    For any passing Russian – we don’t hate you. In fact we feel sorry for you and we only wish you peace, prosperity and liberty from the especially crazy governments you seem to get. And post-script – please overthrow the nutters sitting in the Kremlin and end this war, there’s been more than enough blood shed.

    • Russians seem content with an oppresive Government. They perhaps have never lived under anything else. Always difficult to see what they are thinking but we may well be pleasantly surprised when true democracy arrives – which it will.

    • Shush – you don’t know who may be listening (reading). The Russian’s are trying desperately come up with an answer to bagpipes (& failing). UN have a whole department dedicated to this end (something about weapons of mass destruction). But the who in their right minds pays any attention to the UN. Nobody that I am aware of.

  18. There have been a few people using the word Proxy war…in regards to the west supporting Ukraine to defend itself against the Russian invasion.

    I think we all need to be a bit clear on what that means as it’s a very very dangerous rabbit hole to go down..and is incorrect in any definition of proxy war ( and there are a few)…but Russia would very much like that thought promulgated.

    the older definition is:

    ” a war fought between groups of small countries that each represent the interests of other larger powers having a long term relationship with the large powers and encouraged to fight for the interest of the larger power”

    This does not really work in the post Cold War modern climate especially in complex places like the Middle East so a more modern definition that encompasses all this is:

    “ proxy warfare today is best defined as sponsorship of conventional or irregular forces that lie outside the constitutional order of states. In the greater Middle East and it’s periphery, multiple states have adopted limited war strategies predicated on mucky command structures that allow Spencer’s and proxies to cross red lines and Bend international norms seemingly without consequence.”

    Candace Rondeaux and David Sterman 2019, New America and ASC centre on the future of war.

    basic you cannot have a proxy war in which one very large state actor simply invades another sovereign state for its own purposes…that’s an actual war between Russia the belligerent and Ukraine the nation defending its sovereignty…

    This is really important as Russia wants the dialogue that this is the west actually sponsoring a proxy war against Russia. It’s a very very nasty trap to fall into..think about what you actually mean when you say it’s a proxy war..what the dialogue you are supporting entails…..for this to be a proxy war the west would have needed to have developed Ukraine’s military and then got them to cause a war to be fought with Russia….helping a nation defend itself is not fighting a proxy war…there are varied definitions of proxy war but supporting a state to defend itself after its been invaded is not covered in any definition…..the lend lease of destroyers from the US to UK in 1939/40 was not the US fighting a proxy war….the UK sending the BEF to France in 1939 was not fighting a proxy war…..

    But actually you can say that Russia potentially did enact a proxy war with Ukraine in 2014 and was running a proxy war against it for 8 years before deciding that was not working and kicked of a true war by invading it….or actually you could say the true war started in 2014 when Russia actually invaded Ukraine via Crimea and the east and used some form of proxy like conflict to provide deniability in the international community.

    the best summary of this I have found is from a Dr of conflict, diplomacy and international relations at Kings College and he wrote:

    ” is the term proxy applicable to what is happening in Ukraine . In short no. While it does fit Putins role in provoking an insurgency in the Donbas and the so called Donetsk and Luhansk Peoples republics its fails to properly describe the inter state war that is currently raging. more damning still, it denies the Ukrainians their own agency and belittles their own right to self defence”

    So as a final thought:

    Language is important and Russia promotes this poor use of language as it literally supports them on the world stage.

  19. If it wasn’t for the fact we are now in May it is more of an April Fool’s Day suggestion. We have our tabloids, which is itself misleading as they are all tabloid now, so for the likes of the Sun, Daily Mail, Daily Express and the other comics anything that grabs attention and sparks unintelligent outrage is the norm. Sadly these comments are publicised as though they emanate from the mouths of the Russian leadership. There are times when they have also made themselves look stupid, but then who doesn’t from time to time, but unattributable rants from unknowns shows Russia has its own equally ignorant tabloid news creators. We know its a stupid throw away comment probably to see how far the idiocy could spread, because if Scotland was that way inclined we could do a damn sight better job than the Russians, who haven’t exactly demonstrated any competence anyway.

  20. My grandfather served during the first world war in the Highland Division to oppose Prussian terrorism against the free people of western Europe. Supposedly know to the enemy as devils in skirts, they marched regardless of the weather. Given the ice and snow the rear of his kilt cut his calfs as ice is sharp.

    He ended his service in the second world war enabling the Yalta conference between the UK, US and USSR leaders. Sadly the Georgian Gangster Joseph Stalin was allowed to take parts of Finland which have contributed to lower security since then. Happily Finland has successfully joined NATO democratically of their own free will.

    Ruzzia continues to be deluded about the motivation of the people of the free world to live in peace and yes, shoulder the sad burden of securing our defence.

    I’m skeptical that a kremlin mouthpiece has any insight into the motivation of Scottish people. Our shared values are clearly beyond the terrorist group running ruzzia.

    #StandWithUkraine
    #FONOPS

  21. They probably meant to say “Irish” rather than Scottish in reference to the various groups in Northern Ireland who have not yet given up using violence.

  22. Might he be speaking in a generality, that training and returning criminals to go home and attack their own country is a means to reduce Western support for Ukraine? Or, he’s a lunatic.

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