Saab has signed a contract with the Danish Ministry of Defence Acquisition and Logistics Organisation for deliveries of the Carl-Gustaf M4 weapon, ammunition and training equipment, with an order value of approximately SEK 510 million (£41m) and deliveries scheduled for 2026 to 2028, the company stated.
The procurement covers the weapon system, associated ammunition and training kit intended to support Danish forces, according to Saab.
The company said the contract continues a long-standing relationship, noting that Denmark has used Carl-Gustaf systems, locally known as Dysekanon, since the 1970s and took delivery of the M4 variant in 2022.
“Carl-Gustaf M4 offers unmatched precision, portability, and a wide range of ammunition options, ensuring that Danish forces are well-equipped to handle diverse and evolving threats,” said Görgen Johansson, head of Saab’s business area Dynamics, in the press release. “We look forward to continuing our long-standing support for the Danish Armed Forces.”
Saab describes the Carl-Gustaf as a man-portable recoilless rifle that is reusable and adaptable for a variety of missions, and said the new deliveries will sustain the system’s availability for Danish units, according to the company.
The order follows Saab’s ongoing efforts to support international customers. Deliveries are set to take place from 2026 to 2028, when the equipment, ammunition and training materials will be handed over to the Danish authorities.
I bet that must be a rush, when you fire one.
Never fired anything like that but I’ll guess there are a few on here who have.
Bit of Plinking with my .22 is fun too !
read that as a tourist you can find firing ranges in Cambodia that will let you fire RPG-7
now you know your next holiday destination 🙂
I fired an AK in Vietnam. An Aussie bloke in the group fired a .30cal.
Hated the version I had to carry, 1980/1990’s . Bloody heavy and awkward to carry. New developments seem to be a lot more soldier friendly. Better than nothing when taking on metal units.
We were “loaned” a CG by the Canadians, which I believe was the lighter M4 version. As it could fire a very useful HE round. Which we used to make a large hole in a compound’s mud brick wall in Afghan. Carrying it and a couple of rounds, plus all the other kit over a 10k tab to the start line, whilst remaining tactical was interesting!
not sure i would want that on today’s battlefield. seems very risky to be in line of sight distance in Ukraine, much better off using a cheaper FPV with much longer range and accuracy
seems most if not all NATO militaries are stuck on their old ways and aren’t really learning from Ukraine, because there have been significant tactical evolutions since early 2022. even 155mm artillery rounds are less relevant.
NATO is far behind the curve on drone production compared to Ukraine and Russia. We are in extasy when we announce 10,000 units produced in a year, when Ukraine is producing about 4 million a year, not sure what Russia produces but i imagine it must be substantial
I don’t think western politicians are beginning to realize the quantities required and currently in use in that conflict
Ukraine has not stopped using assets such as NLAW or CG, as they have their uses, especially during a Russian break through. As the weapon can be used immediately by the infantry in the line. Whereas a drone operator needs to be some distance behind the lines and protected from shelling and counter-drone operations. You don’t want to be the drone operator in the front line, with your eyes in a headset and completely unaware of what the direct situation is around you!
Additionally NLAW and the CG rounds are not affected by jamming. That can stop the use of RF controlled drones.
One way attack drones definitely have their places in today’s fight. But they aren’t the only asset in the tool box, nor are they the golden egg that solves all the problems.
no offense but you visibly have not been following the situation closely.
right now it is all drones vs infantry vs vehicles vs drones. this is feedback from people that actually go there regularly multiple times a year and visit the troops in the front line.
no one is relying on ATGM today, combat tactics have radically moved on since start when Russia was on highway to Kiev. There are barely any vehicle engagements because drones are pervasive in the skies. Troops stay in their bunkers to avoid drones and only come out when Russian infantry makes advances by foot or bike or ATV. in fact the vehicles destroyed currently are not in the frontline but in the rear when trying to ressuply, transport troops, etc.., ATGM cannot reach that far.
Weapons of choice currently for frontline are smartphones/tablet linked to Starlink for situational awareness, and drones to attacks and shotguns for self-defense vs incoming drones. It is almost impossible to move on the frontline by day, and the only reason there has been some slight movements lately is fog season which means cover from recon drones
plus also a lot of mines, (many deployed by drones)
recon drones = small spotter drones, they dont use Baykyar TB2 drones those things dont survive since initial weeks of the war
last thing re jamming , they have been using a lot of drones with fiberoptic cables for a while now. completely jam proof. at first it was a few km cables, now they go to +20km length. in hopes to counter that they deploy plenty of razor wire on the ground in hopes to sever the cabkes, but hard to tell how effective that has been
oh and jamming cannot be just on all the time. for one it also screws with your systems and secondly by emitting jam signals you reveal your postion and will be targeted
and you wont be able to cover all frontline with jamming ofc, it is expensive equipment and the front line is huge
I have been following the situation very closely. I can assure you that both guided and unguided anti-tank weapons are in continual use by the Ukrainians. Ukraine’s forces are using every tool they have in their cupboard. They don’t have the luxury to rely on drones. They have a significant manpower disadvantage, so every tool they have must be used.
Fully accept drones have changed the way fighting may be done in the future. But in a very fluid Darwinian environment, new concepts and technology will evolve to shape how fighting is conducted. But the basics of infanteering are always the foundation on which new ways of thinking are added to. As without the shiny new toys you have to rely on slugging it out and using the maximum amount of aggression to overcome your enemy.
omg you really are a mister know it all that cant accept when he is wrong.
when was the last time you were in Ukraine?
whereas I am relaying info that Xavier Tytelman reports regularly. the guy isn’t some internet clown, he is an ex-radar operator on Atlantique 2 maritime aircraft for french navy. now he reports on Ukraine as well as raise hundreds of thousands of euros for Ukraine. in fact, Forces News did an article on him back in Dec 12, 2023.
He just got back a few days ago from Kramatorsk (25km from the frontline) to deliever a medical emergency trailer to stabilize patients before they are shipped to hospital, on this trip he also visited a factory where they make Flamingo drones. He is in contact with Ukrainian officals that arrange for access, and provide him with secure transport around different areas. He also has close contact with fighters, notably french ex military that are fighting there, as well as Ukranians that were in the Foreign Legion and now fighting in Ukraine since Legion allowed them to go fiight for their country, same as for Russians (they represented a large part of the Legion before 2022)
All this to say he knows his stuff when it comes to Ukraine, certainly a lot better than you or I, or most journalist based in the west.
NATO is still operating like drones don’t exist.
I guess they are hoping they will go away but exercises are failing to factor them in and just make the deployments a waste of effort
Difference is they are producing them to use we would be producing them to store apart from those we actually send to Ukraine. The most important ability is to be able to set up the potential to massively step up production when you need it and when what you need is clearly defined in the moment. After all what’s useful can change in a few months so storing mass produced useless drones would be pretty pointless certainly unless they can be assured to be easily upgradable on mass. We had hundreds of useless Fairey Battles at the beginning of WW2 because they had been designed to fit a contingency ie treaty restrictions that simply did not apply by 1939 but were continued to be built because it was easy to produce in numbers, despite its own constructor arguing it was up to the job without serious redesign now that the goal posts had substantially changed.
I believe, for the first year (1939 and 1940 realistically) of the war, bomber command suffered higher number of casualties when flying the Battles, compared to fighter command’s combined total when flying Defiants, Gladiators, Hurricanes and Spitfires.
lastly a Carl Gustav M4 cost 20k plus ammo (500 to 3k). you can have many drones for that price, shoot safely far away from your bunker, and much more accurate since you can target any part of the vehicle. Good luck getting that from a Carl Gustav or NLAW where you need at around 500m to shoot with inferior accuracy and completely exposed to overhead drones. trust me its nuts and not happening anymore.
If I may be so bold watch Xavier Tytelman’s youtube videos, he raises money for Ukraine and goes there very very often, at least one week every two months for the last 2 years, and not just in Kiev but actually visits troops on the frontlines and stays in touch with them for regular updates when not in Ukraine.
Thanks for the suggestion. 💪
Xavier just got back from Kramatorsk (25km from frontline) earlier this week and had some really interesting stuff to talk about
unfortunately his videos are in french, so my bad
I asked him to see if could include an AI generated english audio version. hopefully because it is fascinating stuff and people all over deserve to know
slava ukraini!