The privately funded vessel would be employed in a bid to display ‘the soft power of our nation around the world’ minister Jake Berry told The Daily Telegraph

The minister said he and International Trade Secretary Liam Fox thought the boat would be a “great thing”.

While the money for its construction would come from private donors, there are anticipated to be around £10m in annual running costs.  The previous royal yacht, HMY Britannia, was decommissioned in 1997.

Mr Berry said:

“It would be a fantastic opportunity to show the best of British manufacturing on a global scale.

Anything we can do to support the conception of global Britain, do free trade deals, support businesses across the north of England and elsewhere, I do think we should give consideration to.”

In March, Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson said:

“It is my view that it would indeed add greatly to the soft power of this country, a soft power which is already very considerable. The new Britannia should not be a call on the taxpayer, if it can be done privately I am sure it would attract overwhelming support.”

In 1997, the Conservative government committed itself to replacing the Royal Yacht if re-elected, while the Labour Party refused to disclose its plans for the vessel. After Labour won the general election in May 1997, it announced the vessel was to be retired and no replacement would be built.

The previous government had argued that the cost was justified by its role in foreign policy and promoting British interests. It was estimated by the Overseas Trade Board that events held on board the yacht helped raise £3 billion for the treasury between 1991 and 1995 alone.

The new government said the expenditure could not be justified given other pressures on the defence budget, from which a replacement vessel would have been funded and maintained.

Proposals for the construction of a new royal yacht, perhaps financed through a loan or by the Queen’s own funds, have so far made little headway.

A Downing Street spokesperson said this morning however:

“There are no plans for a new (royal) yacht and it is not on our agenda.”

38
Leave a Reply

avatar
22 Comment threads
16 Thread replies
0 Followers
 
Most reacted comment
Hottest comment thread
28 Comment authors
JonathanTrevPaul.PP tattersallHarold Recent comment authors
  Subscribe  
newest oldest
Notify of
Phillip
Guest
Phillip

While I believe that the idea has some merit, in terms of the projection of soft power around the world, any running cost should certainly not come from the defence budget, which we all know is stretched to the bone already; given what it would be used for, there’s surely no reason that the FCO, DIT and BIS, perhaps with contribution from DfID, couldn’t club together and pay the MoD to man and run it.

Malcolm
Guest
Malcolm

Completely agree. Funding Royal junket’s is not in the budget. But if George Clooney et al want to pay for it and operating costs – no objection here.

andy reeves
Guest
andy reeves

spend the money on a proper ship, another t45 for the R.N.

Elliott
Guest
Elliott

It should meet the definition of a foreign aid expense. After all is it not the globalist talking point that trade helps everyone and conferences are held on it? At least it would be an expense with the possibility of some renumeration unlike Kenyan pop bands.

Ben P
Guest
Ben P

Why the hell would a ship used for diplomacy be funded out of the defense budget. Seems more like a Foreign office budget.

andy reeves
Guest
andy reeves

use foreign aid money for it

clive
Guest
clive

I would broardly be in favour of a new Royal Yacht. Agreed its running costs should come from business, FCO and other non-defence budgets. I note that the old Britannia was over 400ft long, so quite a large ship. If it is built, I would like it to be designed so it could be used as a hospital ship in time of emergency. I thought the old Britannia was supposed to be available to be used in such a role but was not used in the Falklands. If the ship could be built with private money, running costs met by… Read more »

Ian
Guest
Ian

If it’s a holiday yacht then it’s the height of insanity.

If however it’s a floating royal embassy pressed round the world with the Royals doing wining and dining round the clock diplomacy as part of a Brexit hedge then I’m fine with it.

Should crew it with Princes Trust kids and retired navy crew. Neither aid or MOD budget – it’s trade budget.

Geoffrey Roach
Guest
Geoffrey Roach

Excellent idea, Ian. If she’s ever built I couldn’t think of a better crew.

Lewis
Guest
Lewis

Also agree. Privately funded, there’s no reason not to build it. It would be a fantastic symbol and asset for the diplomatic service. However the running costs should never come out of the defense budget and the fact that the previous one actually did is utterly ludicrous. Why? It should have come out of the forign offices budget or somewhere else.

Pacman27
Guest
Pacman27

I dont think this should be a starter at all, personally unless it really is a floating embassy which does add some value. 4 hospital ships out of the foreign aid budget would be much better for projecting soft power, I mean even China is aware of the benefits of being seen to help people. It really is getting to the point that unless the people running the foreign aid budget can clearly account for their budget and justify it then it needs to be trimmed. I am not against Foreign aid – quite the opposite, but we need to… Read more »

Paul.P
Guest
Paul.P

Smacks of Brexit Empire 2.0. Hospital ships are the way to go. Sad to say but China is taking the moral and economic high ground.

Mike Saul
Guest
Mike Saul

Waste of money, much higher spending priorities elsewhere

Jan Melsom
Guest
Jan Melsom

Come on Britain can afford it!
Even more so since the it will be privatly
financed.
What a brilliant idea.

The colonel
Guest
The colonel

Needs lots of thought and serious considerations:
Good thought but finances need to be well thought through.
Perhaps HRH Harry could advise?

Nick Bowman
Guest
Nick Bowman

Such a yacht should absolutely should not be a high priority. Which other leading nation has one? Who will pay for its escort? Build some Type 31s! Buy some anti-ship missiles! Recruit some extra sailors! Focus on what’s important!

dadsarmy
Guest
dadsarmy

I agree, but both Norway and Denmark have one and I think they’re used as fleet auxiliaries. No idea about other countries, Spain has a speed boat.

dadsarmy
Guest
dadsarmy

“It would be a fantastic opportunity to show the best of British manufacturing on a global scale.”

Would probably be built in South Korea.

Malcolm
Guest
Malcolm

True!

Stephen Carey
Guest
Stephen Carey

At least it would be much cheaper, on budget, on time, do what it’s supposed to do and not break down. Worst case is BAe building it for around the price of a nuclear carrier…

Darren
Guest
Darren

So wrong Stephen. On Budget from South Korea? The MARS oil tanker ships were actually over 610 million pounds with 452 million pounds having no tax clawback, so making them far more expensive built abroad with no incentive for modernising UK shipyards and invigorating local areas. Also, they are a year late, and as for breakdowns? Comparing to what? BAE is not UK shipbuilding. Try to understand this!

Sjb1968
Guest
Sjb1968

Darren spot on

zax
Guest
zax

Of course she’ll need AESA, VLS, SVTT, ASW, ASuW, CWIS, Nulka …
and a very large drinks cabinet.

Albion
Guest
Albion

Where will the ships complement come from? Is the RN already under resourced from a personnel point of view?

Geoffrey Roach
Guest
Geoffrey Roach

Albion….see Ian’s post.

Paul
Guest
Paul

And who will crew this vessel? In a view years time will it be available in times of war, natural disasters etc, because by then we wont have any real ships.

Paul.P
Guest
Paul.P

I would build a decent sized RFA hospital ship on one of the Aegir hulls. Pay for it and the running costs out of the foreign aid budget. Give it a good flight deck and a well deck. Prince William would jump at the chance of being the pilot on its casualty helicopter. There’s a Sierra Leone, Philippines, Caribbean situation on an annual basis. Significant practical help in disasters and serious soft power influence.

Darren
Guest
Darren

Is an Aegir hull more suitable for carrying oil or being a hospital ship? Has this been studied?

Paul.P
Guest
Paul.P

Don’t know if its been studied. My post is by way of suggestion. A landing support ship would have a lot in common with a ship you want in a natural disaster situation. For a true hospital ship I guess you want more emphasis on helicopter landing spots. Argus was used in Sierra Leone, a Bay and Ocean in the Caribbean and HMS Illustrious in the Philippines. Perhaps a couple of additional Bays with internals optimised for medical facilties would also be an option.

Pacman27
Guest
Pacman27

The Aegir is a hull type and can be turned into anything.

It could easily be configured into a Karel Doorman style multi role ship with a massive hospital – stores etc.

We would keep the utility of it to provide stores, fuel etc, for emergencies, but configure its day to day use as a hospital and humanitarian aid ship.

The smaller Danish version of the Tide has a hospital built into the design and is also being produced in Korea.

Peter French
Guest
Peter French

Oh dear this expression of “soft power” has become BJ,s favourite expression as tho he originated it .
Leave out the seemingly clever phrases it just adds to the shallowness of thought, As to the Yacht , well is it a just an ego trip or does it have real value, the attraction of the last one was that the Royals
actually used it and its value was limited to the nearest Port of the country concerned. im not sure that its relevant in this day and age

Mr Bell
Guest
Mr Bell

This is just a vanity project.
at a time we cannot afford actual weapons for the Royal Navy warships or enough escort warships. This is a none starter.

Sjb1968
Guest
Sjb1968

I saw it was described as a “boat” by the minister that really does say it all. Any politician who is interested in this total waste of time should be sacked on the spot.

Harold
Guest
Harold

Farewell HMS Severn.

Paul.P
Guest
Paul.P

HMS Mersey and Clyde go in 2019 but I’ve not seen any decommissioning dates for HMS Tyne. I’m still hoping we get 5 River 2’s plus Tyne which would help to free up a Type 23 for escort duties.

P tattersall
Guest
P tattersall

Love to see a new royal yacht …It would bring great prestige ..

Trev
Guest
Trev

The Royal Yacht was a superb tool to show the flag, host economic meetings for foreign trade, can be used as a hospital ship in times of war, or natural disaster. As a marketing tool to showcase the best of the UK, the Royal Yacht was UNBEATABLE. Now that the UK is going to have to rebuild its trading links, a new generation Royal Yacht is what’s needed.

Jonathan
Guest
Jonathan

If we are building ships for soft power they need to be ships painted red.
1) research vessels
2) hospital and aid ships

All build in British ship yards, brimming with helicopters built in Yeovil and full of British scientists, health care works, engineers etc doing stuff that builds links with other nations and makes us look engaged.

Funded from the aid budget.