The US State Department has approved a prospective Foreign Military Sale to the Ukrainian Government of the National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile System (NASAMS) and associated equipment, which is estimated to cost around $285 million.
“The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Ukraine of National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile System (NASAMS) and related equipment for an estimated cost of $285 million,” the press release from the Defense Security Cooperation Agency read, noting that the necessary certification had been issued to Congress.
Ukraine’s acquisition is set to include a comprehensive suite of defence equipment: “one (1) AN/MPQ-64F1 Sentinel Radar,” as well as a Fire Distribution Center, secure communications, GPS receivers, technical documentation, spare parts, and other logistical and program support elements.
According to the press release, this proposed sale “will support the foreign policy goals and national security objectives of the United States by improving the security of a partner country that is a force for political stability and economic progress in Europe.” The purchase emerges amidst Ukraine’s urgency to bolster its defensive capabilities against potential Russian missile strikes and aircraft.
Raytheon Missiles and Defense, based in Tucson, Arizona, has been cited as the principal contractor for this potential sale. The release stated that no known offset agreements are tied to this sale, and that its implementation would not necessitate any additional U.S. Government or contractor representatives being dispatched to Ukraine.
The official notice of the potential sale, required by law, clarifies that the specified costs are based on maximum estimates, with the actual value potentially lower depending on the finalized requirements, budget allocation, and the signing of any sales agreement(s).
I wonder if the UK CAMM Sky Sabre might also get a lookin since Poland has ordered a bucketful?
I remember mentioning 6 months back how, as all manner of systems were being talked of or were already in the process of being sent, not a squeak was heard about even the eventual prospect, or chances of Sky Sabre being supplied in anything I had read. That surprised me as it was an obvious question to be raised even if good valid reasons for not supplying it would thereafter be expressed in response. 6 months later and still no mention which certainly feels strange to me, so not expecting any prospect of it happening any time soon, but would… Read more »
Probably not. The Norwegians designed this system and it has a very good reputation. NASAMS was the first application of a surface-launched AIM-120 AMRAAM. NASAMS 2 is the upgraded version of the system capable of using Link16, which has been operational since 2007. As of 2022, NASAMS 3 is the latest upgrade; deployed in 2019, it adds capability to fire AIM-9X Sidewinder, IRIS-T SLS and AMRAAM-ER missiles and introduces mobile air-liftable launchers. NASAMS has proven interoperability with longer range systems such as Patriot. I would like to see this system set up round Coningsby, Lakenheath, Lossiemouth, Faslane and Devenport. A… Read more »
Did you mean Marham rather than Lakenheath?
You left out Portsmouth, Fylingdales and any other key radar, intelligence, communications, power, fuel sites. Basically the whole country! Lol. 😆
Others mentioned this before, put the Meteor and BVRAAM in too and Bob’s your flamin’ Uncle!
You have to start somewhere. The total lack of UKAD around our military facilities looks remarkably like incompetence as the UkR war spills over into Russia itself.
With the(hopefully empty) threats Russia makes against us & frequency of Rusian heavy bombers popping up in our airspace, Russia could do a lot of damage to many of our critical facilities in a pre-emptive strike before we began engaging them. Having both UKBMD & SAMs for military sites are basic prudence.
Yes Be a lot cheaper in the end to defend them than to rebuild them. Head in sand attitude hoping it won’t happen in the mean time.
Agreed, but it is potentially more serious than that, as lose the kinds of assets being mentioned above and a war is lost. Back when we last thought that we faced a peer enemy we had a much more flexible collection of military assets e.g. front line standard airfields all over the place, here and abroad. Now we are almost down to single points of failure. From their decisions we must assume that our (as well as NATO’s) military and political leadership viewed and, as importantly, still view the risk of an actual conventional war in Europe as minimal. This… Read more »
An open question partially formulated in response to your posts: Given the UK’s historical legacy of enduring the Battle of Britain (43K casualties) and V1/V2 campaign during WWII, and the current UKR conflict, what rationale undergirds UK resistance to investment in sovereign based GBAD systems? Surely, the funding issue cannot be the entire explanation. The professional military class and even a few insightful individuals w/in political class must realize the inherent risk, at this point, of escalation, w/ generally accepted acts of war occurring on Russian territory. Yes, if Mad Vlad orders a strike, Article 5 of NATO Treaty ensures… Read more »
Good post. It’s probably to do with money and the constant cuts to military capability after every SDSR since the turn of the century. GBAD could have been improvised using the old Rapier system for short range targets, it was replaced by Sky Sabre (which has been sent to Poland) and we have Starstreak MANPADS. We could probably improvise something. Front line MANPADS and the longer range systems are keeping helicopters and warplanes out of the battlespace in Ukraine. The UkR are using drones effectively to spot targets and monitor what is going on behind Russian positions and in the… Read more »
I have replied to you your post but its been moderated 🙁
Sorry, uncertain why topic would be considered especially sensitive/controversial. Reasonably certain you blokes are firmly in second place on Mad Vlad’s hit parade (just behind us), especially after leaning in during the current dust-up. Have always thought being forewarned at least affords the opportunity to be forearmed.
Good post. It’s probably to do with money and the constant cuts to military capability after every SDSR since the turn of the century. GBAD could have been improvised using the old Rapier system for short range targets, it was replaced by Sky Sabre (which has been sent to Poland) and we have Starstreak MANPADS. We could probably improvise something. Front line MANPADS and the longer range systems are keeping helicopters and warplanes out of the battlespace in Ukraine. The UkR are using drones effectively to spot targets and monitor what is going on behind Russian positions and in the… Read more »
You have a 2nd profile as “Sakara Gold”?
Not on this blog Daniele. Plus my keyboard is going home causes a lot of typos. I’m off to the gym again shortly 🙂
Hmmm. Must be a double that types the exact same😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Since our Bloodhound SAMs were removed from the A1 road it seems that the UK’s, as well as much if not all of the US’s and NATO’s, AD has been performed by manned aircraft, not rockets. Clearly the right decision 60 years ago as it saved a lot of money and there were few occasions when GBAD was needed. Whilst we expected to send waves of cruise missiles at our enemies, Syria springs to mind, we never expected anyone to repay the compliment. Now we are suddenly faced with that as a much higher but probably still low, risk it… Read more »
Syria, WTF are you spouting about. No one has sent waves of cruise missiles at us repaying some compliment you seem to perceive. Syria was just a training exercise for your 40 flying hours per annum Russian pilots on how to drop dumb ordnance on none military targets! Your desperation in your posts is more observable!
Uncertain re your point in second paragraph of post. GBAD tech will evolve over time, as essentially all military tech does. Contention is that all the allies should invest, ideally yesterday, in best current tech available and be prepared to invest further as future requirements dictate. Simply a cost of doing business. Predict that w/in a generation, space based DEW will be integrated into AD. Almost a guarantee. Any/all current treaties notwithstanding.
I was trying to make a point based on only Ukraine and Russia in Europe having complex multi layer IADS systems, ironically based on the same equipment and philosophy, leaving Europe vulnerable in the unlikely event that Russia moved further west. Hence too late to do it now yet suicide not to have one in the future. The information that made it out of Kiev, before the clampdown, seemed to show that just plonking a Patriot battery down on an airfield is no longer good enough, it has to be surrounded by other systems in an integrated mutual protection array.… Read more »
Agree that robust GBAD systems are required, ideally NATO-wide, ASAP..
NATO’s plan would be to kill as much of the air defence network with weapons of all types. Manned/unmanned aircraft, missiles etc harms etc.
…relearn historical…
Static defences are easily overwhelmed by volume fire. The first priority in any case is to upgrade the mobile forces; a T45 can provide ballistic missile defence whether tied up alongside or under way protecting a carrier. Therefore in the realm of air defence, first and foremost is to get in that Sea Viper Evolution Capability 2 upgrade.
Hi Matt So far the AD around Kyiv has been tested with multiple missiles from all directions, usualy timed to arrive at the same time. Unless we are being deceived it seems the UkR has managed to shoot most of them down. Russian stand off cruise, ballistic and the hyper-fast but unmaneverable Kinzhal missiles have all been intercepted Until this war is over and at the risk of upsetting Daniele I would favour intercepting – and engaging – any Russian bomber that gets anywhere near our airspace, especialy if they are using ECM. Whether we give them the usual warning… Read more »
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Correct, up to four types of weapon (ballistic, cruise, drone, anti radar) have launch times that bring them onto the target and/or its protective GBAD system timed for maximum effect. Based on videos to date (before the clampdown) unless the Russians have developed a new multi target missile, the number of locations being hit exceeds the number of missiles Kiev reports not shooting down. So yes, it is likely we are being deceived but that is exactly what Kiev should be doing and if it hadn’t been for Twitter etc we wouldn’t know any better and are now unlikely to… Read more »
Quote “ Unless we are being deceived” 😂 bravo made me laugh 👏🏻👍🏻😂
you literally are the 1st amigos other than myself of course 😆👍🏻 in here to even mildly suggest or even consider that we could be getting fed a load O shite …….
Aye and mind Loose Lips Sink Ships …….😉
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This sounds interesting and thankfully off-topic! “Krauss-Maffei Wegmann-Nexter Defense Systems (KNDS) is proposing that the Precise and Universal Launching System (PULS) multiple rocket launcher (MRL) be armed with Kongsberg’s Naval Strike Missile (NSM). An Elbit Systems-Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) EuroPULS MRL mounted on an Iveco Trakker 8×8 chassis was displayed at KMW’s site in Munich on the first day of Defence iQ’s Future Artillery conference held in the Bavarian capital from 29 May to 1 June. A KMW representative said the NSM could be used in a surface-to-surface role either against naval vessels or land targets. The NSM has a range… Read more »
And wouldn’t Ukraine like some of these right now!?
Indeed, the Ukraine war with Russia is opening up different tactics and the equipment to support them. Sweeden is increasing the amount of Archers by a Brigade, we need to take note and avoid further cuts to our defence force. “Sweden’s two artillery brigades with 24 Archer 6×6 self-propelled howitzers (SPHs) each will grow by a third brigade with 24 Archer 8×8 SPHs in 2030. The country has no rocket artillery yet but is focusing on it as there is now political support for deep fires.” South Korea intends to upgrade their K9A1 Thunder, I think we are still considering… Read more »
Bugger me, it seems to be catching😂
Future Artillery 2023: Italy modernises artillery05 JUNE 2023
“Italy is upgrading its Panzerhaubitze (PzH) 2000 self-propelled howitzers (SPHs) and Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (MLRSs). It plans to procure the High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS), Spike non-line-of-sight (NLOS) anti-tank guided weapons, and wheeled SPHs.
In addition, the Italian Army together with the navy is introducing the Joint Digital Indirect Fire Support System, which is interoperable.
The Italian Army’s targeting capability is supported by Strix, RQ-7B Shadow 200, and Raven unmanned aerial vehicles.”
Hi Nigel, of interest is the fact that the Janes article about just this system is headlined with a picture of an M270 MLRS, not the 8 wheeled Iveco truck mentioned in the caption!
cheers
I found this if it helps. Sorry for the delay, another very late night working!
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Oh dear, Putins misjudgement of the century is really biting him in his, and his criminal hangers on, arses!!!
I assume that you believe what you put there otherwise you wouldn’t have written it. So, would you please explain why it was such a serious misjudgement and how is it ” biting him”?
Usually you are somewhat subtle Johnsky.
Your standards are slipping. Your handler won’t be impressed.
Ha haha!! Trying to prove that Russians have a sense of humour?
JIMK wrote: “”So, would you please explain why it was such a serious misjudgement “” I am not the Pegasus man, but even a blind man wearing a welder’s mask sat in a bunker 200 metres underground in a unlit room on the dark side of the moon can see that things aren’t going to plan for Putin and his band of merry fellows. I mean on paper Moscow should have ended its special operation in days, and yet here we are 16 months later and its Moscow on the backfoot. If you are unable to see that (or accept the… Read more »
At the time it kicked off I and many others expected Russia to operate like the US i.e. awesome firepower and destruction of all in their path. It didn’t happen that way. We don’t know what their plan was except that maybe they wanted a quick surrender but that didn’t happen either. Had they achieved a quick solution it is likely that it would have played into the hands of the US which would had the ideal opportunity to set up a running sore guerilla campaign using the large still existing UA, much like the US faced in Iraq or… Read more »
What utter delusional rubbish. The Russians seem to be draining their own military of men and material..Bakhmut cost them 60,000 men, and it’s a militarily insignificant objective. Their cruise missile attacks have failed to break Ukrainian resolve or it’s ability to counter attack. I suppose you think that the Normandy landings were nazi Germany’s way of draining the allies of Sherman tanks and P47’s ? There isn’t a leading economy anywhere that wants to join a stagnant BRIC alliance, just client states . No one gives a shit about Lavrov. Your post above, if it doesn’t prove that you are… Read more »
I will let others decide which of us is delusional. Look at a map, Bakhmut is a major transport hub, both road and rail, it had up to 7 years of defensive infrastructure built into it and stood in the path of any Russian advance west, so ‘insignificant’? The Ukrainians, who fought tooth and nail for it at considerable human and material cost for months, clearly did not agree with you. Your Russian deaths figure, note I have not suggested one for the UA losses, is pure guesswork not a fact. Neither you or I have any idea whether cruise… Read more »
Shit the bed you have gone from a cuck troll to a deluded desperate butt licker! Please respond asp as we are all waiting with bated breath your next outburst!!!!!!! I’m sure it will be as weak, delusional and so full of chuff that it will be on my cut and paste list to reply to your next load of desperate propaganda!
Makes no difference to me who you allow to judge how delusional you are, nothing you’ve ever posted before stands up to scrutiny of is even a 2nd cousin of the truth. There isn’t a competent military expert anywhere who thinks that Bakhmut is militarily significant, there is no equivalence between their views and yours, it’s not even remotely close. They’re experts with combat experience, you aren’t and have no idea beyond what your FSB handlers give you. The Russian military played right into the hands of Ukraine at Bakhmut and paid a colossal price, it’s not even clear that… Read more »
Hillarious. On what planet are you existing Johnski old bean? Lavrov most respected politician on the planet? That’ll be why the whole of the UN security council got up and walked out just before he started sprouting utter tosh like you’ve just done. You might believe the Ruskfascists BS, we however don’t because we all live in the free and democratic world and therefore have access to multiple sources of information. Information provided by reputable, independent and free press. Try not to sprout a load of lies please, we don’t believe any of them and the days of (Putin in… Read more »
JIMK wrote: “”Yes, the Russian military is nothing like that of the US. It has not spent the last 30 years trained and equipped to fight inferior armies in distant lands. It relaxed into a peacetime army with a little bit of insurgency practice in Syria. ”” That’s interesting, as between 1994 and 1996 Russia was embroiled in the first Chechen War, which saw Moscow lose between 14000 to 6000 soldiers whilst the Chechens lost 3000. Whichever Russian loss you use, they still came off worst and that was widely reported. The Russians went back for a second go in… Read more »
Thanks and I hope some of the others here have read what you say about the Russian military which is very different from how they describe it. If I had written that there would be a string of abusive posts in its wake, as opposed to crickets for yours.
You make the points very well and are pretty much spot on in correcting my gross simplification. Thanks again.
The point that I took there was that Russia wasn’t a peacetime military, had invested in equipment, trained with other militaries, but, when it came to real time operations was still found to be comically inept and useless. Defeated at Kyiv, Kherson and Kharkiv, 16 months later it is stuck in a quagmire barely 50 miles from it’s border.
Think of the Kiev operation as a feint to tie UA forces to defending the capital whilst the critical Russian strike was across to the Dneiper, gaining a land route to Crimea, almost none of which territory they have given up. OK they overextended over the river through Kherson, probably due to little opposition, but tactically withdrew with few losses. I don’t watch what happens in Kharkiv. The quagmire is now drying out, we will see what happens now.
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Yeah. Whatever. Not even Medvedev would believe that. You really can’t face up to facts or reality can you?
But it didn’t do it very well as the troops and TTPs no longer exist and they reverted back to incompetence and dereliction! Nothing to be proud of when the opportunities to be better have been lost, even if those opportunities were learnt by previous illegal wars! More guff from our resident 76 year old civvy never served, Nazi supporter in MK!
JIMK wrote: “”It then had a rude awakening when it faced the large, trained by NATO, well equipped Ukrainian military.”” Rude awakening? You appear to have left out how in Chechnya, Georgia , Syria and Libya Russian troops and equipment had a habit of coming off second best in a bunfight be it to Russian weapons or western ones. Where do you want to draw the line 1991 (Kuwait) 1994 (Chechnaya) 1999+ (Israel) 2003 (Iraq) 2008 (Georgia) 2010+ (Syria) 2011 (Libya) 2014+ (Libya) 2020 (Armenia) In all of the above Russian weapon systems came off second best, if the… Read more »
Thanks for the detailed response. As usual I see things differently. I don’t recall that in the 4 countries you mention that the Russian supported side came off second best. OK in Chechnya it was a tough fight that needed a second go but they won as they did in Georgia whilst Libya was a draw and Syria a semi win. Not sure how your next comment fits in but in the main they were supplied with the export version and not manned by Russians other than as advisors. I don’t know but I would have expected the manufacturers to… Read more »
Why do you see it differently! Any reason?
JIMK wrote: “”As to infantry gear, given that apart from in urban warfare the days of infantrymen firing at each other seem quite rare, superior optics aren’t much good against large volumes of incoming mortar and artillery shells as per the battles in the east.”” And here you show how little you know about modern warfare and subscribe to this misplaced notion that the day of the infantryman is over, it isn’t. We can wax lyric about artillery, tanks, missiles close air support, but the single thing they cannot do is take and hold ground, yes Tanks can advance… Read more »
I did not say that the infantryman’s day was over as it isn’t, I said “the days of infantrymen firing at each other seem quite rare” which is quite different and was aimed at your “optics” comment. What use are best optics if you are trying to fight cannon fire from a Terminator, a smart shell or ATGM all guided by eyes in the sky? You are wrong with your unqualified statement “Finally and a big finally the days of static artillery warfare ended with WW1 and it was replaced with mobility”. For the last few months how was manoeuvre… Read more »
Every time, every post of yours is shown to be utter bullshit, deflection and lies. You really haven’t a clue, you’re honestly beyond parody at this stage.
How are the mandarin lessons going?
Agreed, his desperation and nonsense is now becoming the site amusement!
JIMK wrote: “”What use are best optics if you are trying to fight cannon fire from a Terminator, a smart shell or ATGM all guided by eyes in the sky?”” Allow me to impart a little information your way: 5.56mm is designed to take out men ATGM (NLAW/Javelin/RPG etc) are designed to take out armour Add ATM (Bar mine/off route mine) ROVER Which allows support fire missions to take place. Be it Brimstone, APKWS, Smart or even Hellfire. As perfected by the Ukrainians against the Russians where collaborative team work has seen Moscows finest suffer horrendous losses by using the best… Read more »
Interesting facts but not relevant to my question. I would respectfully suggest that much of the fighting seems to be being done with what is to hand which may not be the best tool for the job, like an ATGM in trench warfare. Horrendous losses suffered by both sides but with the UA now on the offensive it is they who are now suffering most, 15 off 500kg glide bombs on a troop concentration in a village FFS! Trying to fight a war with little to no AD is just suicide.
And your lack of subject matter continues 😂😂😚 have a word with yourself or your handler and stop reading the script pretending you know the subject!
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He appears never to have heard the expression:
“Never bluff a bluffer”
JIMK wrote: For the last few months how was manoeuvre warfare possible given the infamous Ukrainian ground conditions? Surely static artillery under those conditions is still the only option, especially when one side has spent years digging well planned fortifications??”” Why do you continue to peddle that debunked line. That so called well-constructed (several years in the making) fortified front line between the Ukraine and its Russian backed breakaway states was broached in the north, which is how they captured Severodonetsk, South which is how they captured Mariupol which were stated aims from day 1 and they did so with… Read more »
You went off on a tangent there ignoring my questions.. I didn’t mention a “defensive line” just “fortifications” which they did in several towns.
More guff my old civvy troll! Leave war to those so know it and you stick to trolling!
JIMK wrote: “”You went off on a tangent there ignoring my questions.. I didn’t mention a “defensive line” just “fortifications” which they did in several towns.”” Really! you want to play semantics with me. Simply in order to avoid admitting Moscow has f-ked up big order. I’m not some purpled haired wonk who will swallow what you try to pass off as military information. I’m a bloke who trained as a Combat Engineer, who has dug minefields, field defences, how to pick the terrain in which to channel the other feller, who knows that basic military strategy stipulates that you… Read more »
Oh my you know absolutely nothing about modern soldiering and your continued desperate posts confirm this 😂😂😂!
He is now not only delusional but very desperate! However do you notice a slight change of tact and change of input to his posts? Previous troll removed, new more aggressive yes man now on the Johnskie position of sad troll?
I think he might be trying for comedy gold!!
If Bakhmut is as you put it a militarily insignificant objective then why did Ukraine invest so much effort into holding it? are you suggesting Ukraine sacrificed what cannot be anything other than “Thousands” of men and wasted all that equipment on something unimportant cos if that’s the case then it only shows how cruel and masochist Zelensky and his rotten regime actually is. For Russia it’s standard they don’t give a monkeys about their own men or the civilian population of Bakhmut and will keep the death going as long as it takes. Just goes to show both sides… Read more »
I’ll keep it simple for you. There isn’t a military expert anywhere who considers Bakhmut a militarily strategic target. That Russia spent months hammering away at it using mass casualty human wave attacks had more to do with Kremlin infighting than anything else. Ukraine simply defended their lines, fixed Russian assets in position and enacted a massive price on every foot conceded. 60 000 plus casualties is a horrific price for any military to absorb for no tangible benefit. Russia may in theory have more manpower, but what are they going to be armed with ? Muskets? Swords? There was… Read more »
Appreciated for keeping it simple but it’s on tape Zelensky saying it’s a strategic point on the map so what are you saying he was lying?
I can post the link if you like if the UKDJ will put the post up?
answers on a postcard
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Also just a wee side note , your quote “ Russia may in theory has more man power” 😳 there’s no theory it’s simple fact what are you Smokin ?
As for your “ there isn’t a military expert “ routine I’ll give you one Scott Ritter former US marine intelligence officer and UN weapons officinado ,now when it comes to listening to you.and I’ll stick my neck out here 😆 with zero qualifications. On this other than what the bbc say or Scotty boy I’m a listen to him 🤪👍🏻
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Fuck me your desperate posts are going from sad to sheer nonsense, then to totally illiterate! If you think Putin the nonce, and his criminal head sheds and their illegal invasion of Ukraine is going the way they wanted, then you need to have a word with your shrink! So now your saying the absolute cluster of the initial invasion was lucky or planned, by the Nazi Party Russians, due to the US preferably going the way of a guerrilla warfare scenario FFS you are absolutely hilarious! Anyway I thought you said, over 14 months ago the reason for the… Read more »
JIMK wrote:
If anything, the Ukrainian military is much more effective today than what it was at the start of Feb 2022. That comes from trained experienced troops, the supply of better weapon systems than it had before. Can we say the same for Russia. Which is willing to accept over 20K losses for one town.
I’m not so sure. The UA attacks of the past few days seem to have ended with little to show for it. Whether that is a taste of the future who knows. Both sides have been training hard and getting better weapons so that’s probably even. Ukraine was also willing to suffer very serious losses in Bakhmut.
JIMK wrote:
16 months ago, the Ukraine didn’t have:
M270
HIMARS
HARM
Storm Shadow
Starlink
SPG (AS90/CAESAR/Archer/RCH-155/PzH 2000/M107)
NLAW
Startstreak/Crotale/IRIS-T/Patriot/NASAMS/Aspide/Aster
All of which have allowed the Ukraine to not only hold its own, but as we have seen with the M270/HIMARS, HARM and now Storm Shadow, strike back and take out sensitive Russian targets which degrades Moscow’s ability to fight. Something it was unable to do last January
Agreed, but the point I made, that you put in blue, still stands.
No it doesn’t
Getting better weapons? Russia has stole some very modern kitchen appliances pal and I’m sure they are either under the wing of a very badly trained and piloted SU or in a colonels house! Muppet!
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The world?
South Africa
Burundi
Kenya
Sudan
Brazil
Nicaragua
Mali
Bali
Congo
Egypt
Ethiopia
Iraq
Uganda
Angola
Eretria
India
Cuba
Venezuela
None of the above are anything to gloat about, and all are corrupt as F-k, the highest rating country there in the world corrupt. ion list is Cuba which comes in at 65th places, the next South Africa comes in at 72nd place followed by India at 85th place. Mind most do better than Russia which comes in at 137.So maybe things are looking up for Moscow.
Add China to that list and you have a significant proportion of the World both in terms of GDP, PPP, population and production of all kinds of stuff that we in the West depend on. They are also moving quicker than expected to remove the US$ as their medium of exchange.
I would suggest that, to most of those people corruption is not a significant factor in their lives. Few if any countries are not corrupt and those claiming to be clean usually have sophisticated or legalised methods others lower in the list would regard as corrupt.
JohninMK wrote…Add China to that list and you have a significant proportion of the World both in terms of GDP, PPP, population and production of all kinds of stuff that we in the West depend on. They are also moving quicker than expected to remove the US$ as their medium of exchange.
Be careful what you wish for, this article was ages ago but still valid and I remember watching a documentary a while ago where China is doing exactly this:-
https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2014/07/03/where-do-borders-need-to-be-redrawn/why-china-will-reclaim-siberia
Russia is getting weaker whilst China is sitting there watching with greedy eyes.
JIMK wrote: “”At the time it kicked off I and many others expected Russia to operate like the US i.e. awesome firepower and destruction of all in their path.”” And at a stroke you reveal you know very little about modern warfare. Since 1939, the object of the game isn’t to slug it out with the other fellow toe to toe, (unless you are Russia that is) but rather to out manoeuvre the other fellow and kick him between the legs, and defeat him that way. Yes that entails firepower, but it is used like Andre Moreau (aka Scaramouche) would… Read more »
You are ignoring that Russia may have made a decision to not follow the US plan and do all the things you list. A large proportion of the Ukrainian population spoke Russian and habitually supported Russian supporting political parties. Kiev and other cities like Kharkiv, Odessa and Donetsk have very strong Russian roots. The Russian MoD and military leadership and officer level had strong ties to the Ukrainian same. There were strong (still are in oil and gas transit) economic ties. They wanted to work with Ukraine in the future. All that mitigated against the ‘shock and awe’ US strategy… Read more »
JIMK wrote: “”You are ignoring that Russia may have made a decision to not follow the US plan and do all the things you list.”” Listen to yourself, not only are you disagreeing with what you have been saying since day one, you are saying that Moscow decided to drag things out, suffer horrendous losses simply because it could. All because you refuse to accept the fact that Moscow has f-k up big style. At a stroke you reveal the true you, somebody unable to accept the facts. JIMK wrote: A large proportion of the Ukrainian population spoke Russian and habitually… Read more »
Desperate nonsense and sad propaganda 😂😂😂😂😂😂
OMG you really didn’t ask that? Hilarious! So you think this illegal invasion is going well?
OMG you can’t answer the question again. Whether it is illegal or not depends on whether you favour the US ‘Rules based Order’ or the rules of the UN.
You have never answered a single question, ever! You ignore and make efforts at deflection, exactly how you responded to me! Sad, weak, pathetic but expected! And I also see a slightly different style to your posts and responses, another troll on the JohninMK tag maybe! And the UN stated it’s a crime of aggression so the question remains, do you condemn an invasion which is a crime of aggression and do you support and applaud the actions of Putin? Try to have the balls to answer that one straight!
Well the Russian invasion runs counter to the UN charter, so it shouldn’t be too difficult for you to find some backbone and condemn it.
But Johnski old bean- the UN has already provided a judgement on the Russian invasion of Ukraine- they have already called it an illegal act and there is a resolution stating Russia has to respect Ukraine’s territorial integrity, including that of Crimea and withdraw from Ukraine. That is fact. So your stipulation that Russia is acting within the law of the UN is utterly rubbish.
So did anybody else hear how a Ukrainian strike last week targeted an airfield near Kursk and damaged several Su 34s and a Pantsir
I’ve had a look and I can’t find anything about that, Russian SM doesn’t hold back on why events like that are due to incompetence etc. Instead, there was a lot on the Russian’s strikes causing serious damage on the Starokonstantinov airbase north of Khmelnitsy, the home of the 7th Tactical Aviation Brigade who operate Su-24s. This may have escaped you. Before the start of the war Russian reconnaissance satellites could watch Ukraine for about two hours a day. Limited round-the-clock monitoring of the territory of Ukraine has been provided with the help of Russian spacecraft. Since February 2022 the… Read more »
Any condemnation, as opposed to excitement, at Putins illegal invasion of Ukraine yet?
Nice work. The Ruskies are struggling to manufacture adequate numbers of modern advanced aircraft (if you can call the SU34 modern and advanced) its combat performance in Ukraine has been anything but impressive.. losses in the war are not being made good anytime soon, mostly due to sanctions. Putting Putin and his bum buddy president Xi in a difficult position. China could supply advanced aircraft but that would rapidly become evident and China would then run the risk of being sanctioned to death like Russia currently is.
Interesting comment. Given that Russian production statistics are classified I’m sure that many here would be interested to know how you managed to get hold of the data or was it a guess? Also, how do you know that losses are not being made good, especially as reported losses are very low currently or is that a guess as well?
Given the proven effectiveness of the Ukrainian IADS and the availability of MANPADS, would you agree that any non 5th generation aircraft would have a less than impressive combat performance record there?
More nonsense from a sad 76 year old civvy from MK……your supposed credentials are weak troll boy!
Will there be a point in time when Russia’s frustration may lead to a demonstration of its tactical nuclear capabilities? Such weapons as these US-made systems could bring forward the dreadful day if attempts to damage Ukraine diminish. Unless there is a dramatic change in Russian politics (dismissal of Putin) then there is an increased likelihood this conflict could result in a cataclysmic finale.
Evidently someone just damaged/destroyed the Nova Kakhova Dam. My wager would be on the damn Orcs. Associated reservoir presumably supplies the Z nuke power plant. Participants beginning to raise the table stakes. A real sporting proposition. .
… Kakhovka…please pardon my Ukrainian, a relatively recent development.
USAF wrote: “”Evidently someone just damaged/destroyed the Nova Kakhova Dam.”” Had a little ponder on this today and if it was the Russians (and it certainly looks like it is) it sends a message that Moscow doesn’t want to take on the Ukrainians (Have to explain back home to the plebs how the Ukrainians have taken the fight back to the Russians and is looking for a means to end the war via another direction. In this case the supply of water to the nuke plant up the road, which could result in a melt down and the Europeans… Read more »
I would hazard a guess, given that there were no confirmed reports of explosions that night, that the dam failed due to previously inflicted damage. This compounded by extra water being released over the past few weeks from two upstream dams that was not released in turn from the Kakhova Dam due to HIMARS damaged sluice gates at the end of last year. The resulting unusually high water level putting huge pressure on it resulting in the inevitable.
The timing was fortuitous for the Ukrainians as it buried all stories on their military actions of the past few days.
Oh dear, that post just confirms your efforts at blaming the Ukrainians for just about everything! You are so full of nonsense and propaganda that you are my little clown in a box, and you pop up every now and then, just to be pushed back in! Your troll status is obvious to even the newbie’s on here, and to the long sufferers you are just a sad example of a pathetic troll!
What a load of absolute bullshit. Even someone as deluded as you can see that the damage to the dam was caused by explosive charges, not by artillery or by high water levels.
You really haven’t got a clue, the only inevitable as you put it is your failure to understand basic physics.