Urgent assistance is needed with the supply of ventilators and components. Please register if you can assist.

“The government is looking for businesses who can support in the supply of ventilators and ventilator components across the UK as part of our response to COVID-19.”

The Government are looking for businesses with the following skills:

  • design/specification
  • rapid prototyping
  • contract/product assembly
  • certification/regulation/testing
  • logistics
  • medical training

If you think your business can help, please register your details before midday on 18 March 2020.

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Sean

Boris chaired a teleconference on Monday evening with various design and engineering companies on this specific topic. Those present on the call all aim to have detailed proposals on how to achieve this (design, manufacture, etc), by the end of the week.

maurice10

As we saw during WW1 & 2, UK industry quickly switched to wartime products. However, it did not happen overnight and took many months. One major difference today is the ability to rapid prototype and in some circumstances, those parts can be fully functional meaning, very little lead time to assembly. Sadly, some 3D machines are too slow to satisfy demand so there may be a scheme where ventilators are built to basic standards, but have a limited life? This would enable the NHS to increase the numbers of patients on oxygen, but would require a stream of machines constantly… Read more »

andy

this is the problem with relying on outsourcing from outside the UK,the only hope that can come of this virus is we as a country wake up and start to manufacture more in our own country for our own needs,instead of this cost cutting and getting it made abroad so fat cats can get fatter

Daniele Mandelli

Bravo.

Sean

We manufacture far more in the U.K. than people think. Globally we’re the 11th largest manufacturer by value. We just tend to concentrate on specialised and high-end manufacturing as we can compete against the Far East. Parts are an issue though, due to the increase in global supply chains and ‘just-in-time’ delivery. These may be more efficient but clearly have far poor resilience against disruption. (Thankfully we have warehouses full at the moment over fears of disruption due to Brexit.) Hopefully one of the things that will come out of all this is the need to be more self-reliant if… Read more »

expat

Spot on Sean, some factories manufacture one or 2 parts and sell into a global supply chain meaning massive economies of scale and cheap goods that we all have come to love. The reality is it wasn’t the government that pushed work overseas the UK consumer started switching to foreign cars and white goods decades ago. So many people complain about UK manufacturing whilst having a BMW, Merc or other German car sat on the drive. We import £49billion of vehicles annually, that’s in the UK consumers power to change. The problem is what does the next disaster look like,… Read more »

ChariotRider

Hi George, I’d just like to say that these NHS posts / articles that you are putting up are great. They reflect a kind of industrial / community mobilisation that only an effective nation state with strong community cohession can really achieve. (Countries with less effective state machines will likely still demonstrate strong community responses where good local leadship exists, I would suggest, such is th ehuman spirit.) This particular issue around ventilators and Sean’s comment highlight the kind of response that can be achieved in an emergency and it is heartening to know that industry government and public services… Read more »

Clive S

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Clive S

It is good that the government are wanting engineering companies to make ventilators, but they are not useful if there are not enough trained staff to use them My wife who has just recently retired, was the clinical lead (matron) at two intensive care wards at two hospitals, has taken the decision to let our local hospital that she is able to help. My wife ‘s worry is that there are just not enough suitable qualified nurses to work in critical care, as it takes 8 weeks of training to have the basic skills.

Jonathan

George we have been seeing Hand sanitizer being stolen from GP practices practices to the point that all the sanitizer bottles were being stripped from a practice in a morning. Practices are having to stop placing hand sanitizer in public areas.

At the same time we are seeing an expansion of local groups being set up to support the elderly and in need.

Seeing the very worst and very best in the British public.

RobW

We have around 5,000 ventilators in the UK but it isn’t public knowledge how many of those are in working order or how well spread they are around the country. For instance I found out there are only 2 in Eastbourne, a town of 107,000 people with an above average age demographic, plus all the surroundings areas that hospital serves.

I have seen projections that we may need in excess of 40,000 people ventilated at a time if the worst case scenario comes to fruition. Lets hope it doesn’t and that UK industry is able to rise to the challenge.

James Fennell

There are 4,000 ICU beds and each needs a ventilator. There is a dramatic need to up the number of ICU beds to 20K at least. Main manufacturers of medical ventilators are in USA, New Zealand, Germany and Italy. EU has put a ban on exports of medical equipment and the others are very busy meeting American and Asian demand so none of these suppliers can be relied on in the short term. That said the NHS anesthetists also use ventilators during operations and some, of these could be adapted in the short term while designs are produced rapidly here.… Read more »

OldSchool

Actually I’ve just read a story stating that the biggest manufscturer of ventilators is in Switzerland. So hopefully UK can get some from there. Altho their priority is Italy at moment. Note France only has 5000 ventilators too. So UK not alone. Germany has squillions – 25000. But then again it expects other countries to defend it !
Prob is modern ventilators are highly technical and take years to design. Maybe UK should look at simple 50’s style iron lung. Maybe not top notch but quick to produce and relatively effective likely.

expat

I’m not an expert but isn’t oxygen also a substitute for a ventilators? I understand that Italy had cases where oxygen ran out so ventilators are preferred.

James Fennell

I believe they sent an oxygen/nitrogen mix in and extract CO2, so they also need a supply of gasses. The wizardry are the sensors that ensure the exact amounts are supplied and monitor oxegen and CO2 levels in the bloodstream. Different models are used for unattended patients in ICUs and attended patients during surgery.

Grubbie

Thanks for that.This sounds like the tricky bit.Not that I don’t think it can be overcome on war footing. The liberty ships and stens weren’t the greatest products, but they were the best because they were there.

Paul T

expat – Oxygen and Equipment work together,’Ventilator’ is a generic term,the Machine in the top picture is whats known as a Bipap,we also have Oxylogs,Optiflows to name a few,they all used piped Oxygen fed through them.

expat

Thanks. I heard UK manufacturers of aircraft life support systems are looking to see if they can supply the NHS. Not sure if a fighter jets OBOGS could be adapted but at least people are thinking.

Paul T

Most of these devices are built by Philips/Siemens etc,there are other makes but cant recall them at the moment.

Grubbie

This should already be underway. Talking to engineers about this, they reckon that on a war footing they would be able to start banging out ventilators in a surprisingly short time, a couple of weeks. This would be for a few hundred possibly a thousand,gearing up for larger quantities will take a few months.They are chomping at the bit.

JohnHartley

Would it not be quicker to licence build an existing, approved ventilator? Why not give UK factories making these, a 50% reduction in their business rates for the next 18 months?

The Big Man

I would have thought we would be assembling ventilators not manufacturing them. This is something industry could do with reasonable speed, hence the car manufacturers being asked as much of what they do is assemble from parts.
Fitting factories out with plastic injection mouldings and presses and motor winding etc would prove very difficult and have long lead times, but getting the parts to assemble would be much more efficient assuming consent from the intellectual owner of the product.

Grubbie

Plastic injection moulding is probably the easy bit these days, at least for smaller quantities, could be done in a couple of weeks. 3D printing is a bit expensive but doable for a couple of thousand ventilators to be built very quickly. Intellectual property, we can reverse engineer it and deal with that later. In the circumstances it might be possible to downgrade the specifications a bit. I am amazed this hasn’t been started yet. F1 could have easily produced at least a few already, although they would be extremely expensive.

Rudeboy

DHSC have sent out blueprints of designs to manufacturers for their review.

JohnHartley

George, I posted on another thread a question. Would increasing the number of people we give pneumonia vaccine to, decrease the need for ventilators?