Danish Minister of Defence Troels Lund Poulsen and Argentina’s Minister of Defence, Luis Alfonso Petri, in Buenos Aires signed a letter of intent entailing the sale of 24 Danish F-16 fighter jets to Argentina.

“I have had an extremely fruitful meeting with my Argentine colleague who has expressed great satisfaction on becoming member of the family of F-16 nations across the globe. The deal has been negotiated in collaboration with the United States”, says Danish Minister of Defence, Troels Lund Poulsen.

The decision to sell the Danish jets to Argentina has been made in close collaboration with the American government, which has approved the sale of the US-produced aircraft.

“Danish Defence is in the process of replacing its F-16 fleet with new F-35 jets. Denmark is donating 19 F-16 jets to Ukraine, and the government has decided to sell 24 Danish F-16 jets to Argentina. I am therefore very pleased that my Argentine colleague and I today in Buenos Aires have signed a letter of intent on the possible sale”, says Danish Minister of Defence, Troels Lund Poulsen.

Tom has spent the last 13 years working in the defence industry, specifically military and commercial shipbuilding. His work has taken him around Europe and the Far East, he is currently based in Scotland.
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Colin Brooks
Colin Brooks
8 days ago

Good to have friends you can rely on.

Coll
Coll
8 days ago
Reply to  Colin Brooks

If it’s the F-16 I looked at, these are very old. At least 25 years old. I think it’s more to keep Argentina on the side of the US instead of Argentina buying and shifting towards China.

Last edited 8 days ago by Coll
Netking
Netking
8 days ago
Reply to  Coll

That’s exactly what this is. I’m also certain this agreement did not come as a surprise to the UK. The long game here is trying to prevent China from establishing a stronghold in South America.

Jonathan
Jonathan
8 days ago
Reply to  Netking

Yes less of an issue with the new President..giving the new guy all the support we can to keep the Peronists out of power. It is good for the UK and western liberal democracies as a whole…Argentinian via the Peronist government was slipping into the grasp of china and that would have been a far greater security risk than a few old f16s.

George
George
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

Jonathan, what makes you think this negates the Chicom influence?
The CCP want naval and airbases in Argentina. That permission alone would cover the purchase of combat aircraft and crew training. Maybe even amphibs and tanks. The F16s could be just argie maskirovka.

Jonathan
Jonathan
7 days ago
Reply to  George

Hi George the present President is very very anti communist and he won on a resist Chinese influence platform ( he for instance idolises thatcher as one of the key breakers of the Soviet Union..he considers the CCP as one of the last great evils ). Many portray him as a right wing populist..which would make him a danger…but he’s not actually that, he’s very much a right wing libertarian..which is a different fish…choice and the individual is all to this guy..he’s come out and Said he believes the Falklands are Argentinian ( as all Argentina politicians do) but the… Read more »

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George
George
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

Then I will take your word on that Jonathan. But all things considered. They are just one election or revolution (South American forte.) away from the old style Junta or marxist rabble.

Expat
Expat
6 days ago
Reply to  George

Hi George, Jonathan is correct the current president is a libertarian so anti China and anto Socialist of any form.

George
George
6 days ago
Reply to  Expat

Cheers for the intel lads. Looks like I have some background reading to catch up on.

Jim
Jim
7 days ago
Reply to  Netking

This agreement was the price the UK had to pay to get F16 to Ukraine. I’m sure Denmark would match rather have given these to Ukraine than got a couple of quid to send them to Argentina.

Jason Simmons
Jason Simmons
7 days ago
Reply to  Coll

True but plenty of life extension / upgrades out there. Get them, get them into service, develop your capability and the look at a local Block 70 + life extension and they will have a very capable force that have a long service life ahead of them.

Simon m
Simon m
2 minutes ago
Reply to  Jason Simmons

Without US approval?

Order of the Ditch
Order of the Ditch
8 days ago

I have no problem with this. A country like Argentina needs some fast jets to protect their airspace from hijacked airliners or similar threats. It will take them quite some time to be able to operate 24 F16s competently and even then they will pose a limited threat to UK sovereignty in the Falklands. What is an actual problem for the Falklands is the withdrawal of the T1 Typhoons without replacement, especially as it is T1s down on the islands at the moment. A fleet of 107 T2/T3/T4 Typhoons isn’t enough for QRA, NATO patrols, allied exercises, training, maintenance, Falklands… Read more »

Colin Brooks
Colin Brooks
8 days ago

I have a problem when the government of Argentina has publicly stated its intention to ‘take back’ the Falklands.

Jonathan
Jonathan
8 days ago
Reply to  Colin Brooks

The present president of Argentina has made his view clear. 1) he thinks the Falklands should be part of Argentina ( that’s fine he’s allowed that view). 2) the sovereignty of the Falklands can only be settled peacefully. 3) the view of the islanders is just as important as the view of Argentina and UK governments ( he’s fundamentally a libertarian and does not believe in governments right to force any decisions). essentially what he is said is that he will keep talking to the Uk government and and with islanders, trying to change minds and get them to the… Read more »

Jim
Jim
7 days ago
Reply to  Colin Brooks

The US has required Argentina to provide guarantees that the aircraft won’t be used against the UK much in the same way Pakistan can’t use F16’s against India.

George
George
7 days ago
Reply to  Colin Brooks

Me too. We need to have words with Denmark and/or destroy those F16s ASAP. If the deal goes through they will be transported by sea, giving several options.

Dokis
Dokis
7 days ago
Reply to  George

I see you are extremely scared of Argentina, from this nonsensical post

George
George
7 days ago
Reply to  Dokis

Not at all. Just once bitten twice shy. They do have a bad track record. Only very slow learners would be unconcerned.

Jonathan
Jonathan
7 days ago
Reply to  George

That is the act of a terrorist state, it’s something Iran would try and do…we are not that…Argentina is not our enemy we are not at war..we have a disagreement around the sovereignty of one island..we also happened to have the same sort of disagreement with Spain and Ireland, we have had a number of diplomatic incidences with France over jersey and fishing rights. you forget there is a difference between conflict ( and I mean that in all domains…we are actively in conflict with china in a number of domains) and disagreement…you also forget that just because we had… Read more »

George
George
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

Well, I did say options. Such as stopping, boarding and pushing them overboard mid Atlantic. Not the first time we have blockaded or enforced arms/drugs embargos. But considering what you just said about the nature of the Argie government (at present) I’m inclined to just ask for assurances. While doubling the RAF, RN and Army contingent on the Islands. Perhaps improving the targeting packages for all of their airfields, command/control infrastructure and port facilities. Once bitten, twice shy my friend. I know former enemies can become friends but not Argentina, who behave like rabid dogs at the very mention of… Read more »

Jonathan
Jonathan
7 days ago
Reply to  George

Don’t get me wrong, I’m a bit of a believer in hard line geopolitics..if Argentina started making real threats or started building forces to take the islands, then we could justify a gloves off approach …active defence is enshrined in international law ( so if you have evidence of an imminent attack you can attack first)…but as there is no active risk to the UK or no UN sanction so we cannot interfere with international shipping on the high seas without losing all international credibility…an one thing the west really needs to maintain is the credibility of the present order.

WillD
WillD
6 days ago
Reply to  George

Jesus man, calm down

George
George
5 days ago
Reply to  WillD

Did you remain calm last time the Falkland Islands were invaded or HMS Sheffield and the others were sunk.

Willd
Willd
4 days ago
Reply to  George

No, but I’m not going to get over excited by this.

George
George
4 days ago
Reply to  Willd

That makes two of us. I’m perfectly calm about it.

Mr Bell
Mr Bell
8 days ago

Agree. Well written response. It’s long overdue for either another batch of F35Bs or typhoon tranche 4 to be ordered.

Paul T
Paul T
8 days ago

(A) Has anyone stated that the1435 Flight Typhoon’s will be withdrawn ? – these are FGR4’s after all ,and (B) We could replace them with F35B if need be ?.

Robert Blay
Robert Blay
7 days ago
Reply to  Paul T

The 4 T1 Typhoons in the Falklands will remain until 2027, then they will be replaced with 4 Typhoon T2/3 aircraft.

Andrew D
Andrew D
7 days ago

👍

lordtemplar
lordtemplar
8 days ago

can the UK block the sale? afterall Korea could not sell the FA50 to Argentina because of UK components, such Martin Baker seats.
Even though these are early model F16A/B, they still use some decent weapons and could later be upgraded to latest Viper standard, which are much more of a threat than the FA50 ever was.

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Coll
Coll
8 days ago
Reply to  lordtemplar

I don’t think the Danish F16A aircraft use Martin Baker ejection seats, but the ACESII ejection seats.

lordtemplar
lordtemplar
8 days ago
Reply to  Coll

ok thanks. so i guess it’s doudtful that a UK veto is even possible

Jim
Jim
7 days ago
Reply to  lordtemplar

We could but we agreed not to so Ukraine could get the other F16’s.

PAUL KISTRUCK
PAUL KISTRUCK
8 days ago

Better Argentina have old F16s of which we probably know everything about their capabilities, rather than new Chinese jets of which we probably know very little.

lordtemplar
lordtemplar
8 days ago
Reply to  PAUL KISTRUCK

even with AIM 120 which could potentially be part of the deal according to respectable website DefenseNews?
Not to mention other weapons suppliers, who knows what anti ship they could get tgeir little hands on? Turkey has early F16s and a budding missile industrial base, not to mention India and China
Not impossible to add aftermarket weapons on planes even if not optimal. ie Ukraine Soviet era fighters using weapons like Scalp/Storm Shadow, JDAM ER and ASSM Hammer with a little elabow grease and some tinkering. Maybe not optimal, but still deadly.

Exroyal.
Exroyal.
8 days ago

Underlying all this is the fact that Argentina is not a stable democracy. With some deft political moves or a military coup you could see someone with ulterior motives in charge overnight. Are we prepared for that ?

Jonathan
Jonathan
8 days ago
Reply to  Exroyal.

Let’s be honest Argentinian has no hope of successfully invading the Falklands…it was only the fact they were completely unguarded in 82 apart from a token garrison…it’s now got functional air defence as well as a significant ground force…the only way Argentina could ever threaten the Falklands is if it got significant support from china in a massive rebuild…which I could see happening at some point if some specific geopolitical events occurred..but we would have a hell of a lot of warning for that to occur…and one SSN in the area would make even a Chinese backed invasion difficult in… Read more »

lordtemplar
lordtemplar
8 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

ofc it would be nuts to invade, but that was also the case back in the 80s. history often repeats itself in bizarre ways, and crazy shit happens usually when you least expect it. ie Ukraine, Red Sea etc…

Jonathan
Jonathan
7 days ago
Reply to  lordtemplar

To be honest, the 1982 invasion was something that could have been predicted… the Uk was dangling sovereignty of the islands in front of a military dictatorship with a history of armed conflict..it then went back on those discussions and said we are not discussing it anyone. At that same time the UK government pulled back on its military commitment to the area. All the while this military dictatorship was having domestic issues and the sovereignty of the Falklands was a unifying issue for Argentina.. Argentina is 400 miles away from the Falklands it takes a hell of a lot… Read more »

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
6 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

Not just predicted, there were warnings from both HUMINT, diplomatic, attache, and SIGINT sources which the FCO ignored or downplayed.
Now days, we are even more capable in those areas.

Exroyal.
Exroyal.
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

We had hints in the seventies and mounted Operation Journeyman. I am fairly certain we could not do the same again at such short notice. In 82 it was all over with not a thing we could do about it. Could we even put an SSN to sea. There was a period last year they were all in Faslane. I admire your optimistic outlook on our capabilities. I will say in Warfare you should never underestimate your foe. Learn from your past mistakes.
I never realised that China are such a great belly button power. An interesting point.

Jonathan
Jonathan
7 days ago
Reply to  Exroyal.

The reality is mate that if we had what we had on the island in 82 Argentina would never have invaded in the first place and the Argentinian navy now is a shadow of its former self… just as an example in AirPower the rn was very significantly on the back foot in 82..most of the frigates sent to the Falklands could not really defend themselves let alone anything else…the Harrier was not generationally better than. Anything the Argentinian airforce or navy had..( infact the Argentinian navel fixed wing aviation was probably more powerful) I total Argentina had around 240… Read more »

Exroyal.
Exroyal.
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

As I said we could not mount Operation Journeyman again today or within a month. One of the key aircraft in 82 was an obsolete relic. Cost a lot of lives, UK lives. Never underestimate your enemy. I could mount a plan now with what the Argentines have to retake the Falklands. It would not take much. How long they could hold it is down to the will of the then defending force.

Jonathan
Jonathan
7 days ago
Reply to  Exroyal.

Hi royal, we could mount something like journeyman, but it would hit other operations in support of nato.. in reality though we would not need to do journeyman and it would be a waste of effort…in the 1970s the Falklands would have been impossible to do a significant quick re-enforcement/response by air as the runways in the Falklands were at best able to take a hercs only and any trip is 4000 miles from UK to Ascension Island then 3500 miles from ascension to Falklands which would require inflight refuelled there and back on all the legs..for each sortie…there was… Read more »

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Pongoglo
Pongoglo
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

A very good post – thanks. Rounds on target – fire for effect’ 👍🇬🇧

Jonathan
Jonathan
7 days ago
Reply to  Pongoglo

👍

Marked
Marked
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

Here we go with the navels again…

Jonathan
Jonathan
7 days ago
Reply to  Marked

Navels are very important..they keep your head and legs going in the same direction.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
8 days ago

Does Argentina have any AAR capability? As without it what are the use of these in some theorised attack on the FI?
This is to keep them on side with the west, and not in Chinas camp.

Paul T
Paul T
8 days ago

In the Falklands War era they used C130 for AAR,im not sure if this is still the case or if that capability has been replaced.

lordtemplar
lordtemplar
8 days ago

They have 2 KC130H in service. Furthermore F16 can carry drop tanks.
So in theory they could, but no current appatite for conflict. Milei said he wanted the FI via diplomatic means not military. But circumstances can always change, esp in a country with a populist leader and a failing economy.

Jonathan
Jonathan
8 days ago

Yes most people forget that Falklands are actually a really long way away from Argentina..infact it’s 440 miles from Argentinians closest air base to the Falklands…and with 2000kg of ordnance a f16 is not getting there and back ( it’s combat radius is around 350miles for hi lo hi)…the big a
danger is china not a few f16s…china building a navel base in Argentina…building up the Argentinian navy and then china supporting an invasion of the Falklands…that would be a problem.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
8 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

Agreed. This article will always get some folk excited, but in itself it is not an issue for me.

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke
7 days ago

Yup.

But I’d rather the F16’s had been donated to Ukraine TBH.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
7 days ago

Good point.

Jonathan
Jonathan
7 days ago

That is very true..I don’t have an issue with them going to Argentina as it’s geopolitically sound if irritating..but Ukraine is the fulcrum on which the future direction of geopolitics sits.

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

Exactly send a token 8 to Argentina so they can build up capabilities and the rest to Ukraine.

As you say Ukraine is the fulcrum of geopolitics.

Pongoglo
Pongoglo
7 days ago

Agreed

lordtemplar
lordtemplar
8 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

China has zero interest in getting mixed up in any Falklands conflict. less chance of that scenario than a solo attack from Argentina, which is extremely unlikely imo but F16 with drop tanks can more than cover that distance and back, not to mention longer reach of weapons than back in the day. furthermore Argentina has 2 tanker aircrafts. So it is possible materially even if improbable and a crazy notion. But it is still an uncomfortable situation, because F16 is much more of a threat than FA50 is, and yet Uk gov stopped that from happening. I wouldnt lose… Read more »

rst 2001
rst 2001
7 days ago
Reply to  lordtemplar

I believe China is very interested in the falklands as they can get leverage on Argentina , increase their opportunity to exploit resources in the area . The other benefit for china is it can increase its influence on Antarctica region and other islands . if the UK gets booted out of the area .

Jonathan
Jonathan
6 days ago
Reply to  rst 2001

Indeed most people forget that geostrategic wise the Falklands are huge…they are the Key to the BAT, an area the size of Alaska that includes the Antarctic peninsula and is full of untapped resources…the Antarctic treaty has held for now..but at some point some nation is going to fire the starting gun on exploitation and all hell will break loss…even if it holds the treaty is up for review in 2048 and there is not a snowballs chance on a warming planet that its going to stay in place…the BAT is the very best bit of the Antarctic and we… Read more »

rst 2001
rst 2001
6 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

Explained very well , south America and Argentina should be more concerned with China than the UK falkland Islands status

farouk
farouk
7 days ago
Reply to  lordtemplar

A few facts on the aircraft in question (Taken from F16 Net) The Royal Danish Air Force bought a total of 77 F-16A/B aircraft in 2 major batches and 2 attrition replacement orders. Of these, 48 aircraft and 14 spares, were upgraded to MLU standard . The initial Flyvevaben (Royal Danish Air Force) order was for 46 single seat F-16A’s and 12 two-seat F-16B’s. Final assembly of these planes was carried out by the SABCA plant in Belgium, and all were built to the initial block 1 standards. Deliveries to the RDAF began on January 28th, 1980, with the arrival… Read more »

Expat
Expat
6 days ago
Reply to  lordtemplar

China has every interest in the the South Atlantic. Firstly if the Panama canal was closed the US would need to transit via the cape, Falklands in UK hands allows us the ability to support the US in controlling that route. Its very easy to shut the Panama canal, we saw the Suez shut very easily recently. If the US had to fight its wat around the Cape or deploy escorts is going to impact how it can fight in the Pacific Also China supporting a conflict with UK removes assets that could assist the US in the Pacific should… Read more »

Marked
Marked
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

What use is a belly button base?

Exroyal.
Exroyal.
7 days ago
Reply to  Marked

Gathers a lot of dust.

Jonathan
Jonathan
6 days ago
Reply to  Exroyal.

I think you mean fluff mate…

frank
frank
7 days ago

There are no logical reasons that I can see, where attacking the FI’s again, would be even remotely sane…… They would need a massive increase in capability across their entire armed forces…. Most of us bemoan the state of the UK’s capability but Argentina’s is in a Dire state. Just look at their Navy.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
7 days ago
Reply to  frank

Yes mate. We’d see them coming long before anyway. As long as MPA remains available.

frank
frank
7 days ago

I can’t see them being a threat anytime soon. Personally, I’d like to see some diplomatic talks with a view to working together and helping each other…. a bit like the US and Vietnam.

Jonathan
Jonathan
6 days ago
Reply to  frank

Agreed there are a lot of resources and wealth that can be extracted from that region and an onside Argentinian would facilitate that.

Mr Bell
Mr Bell
8 days ago

Land Ceptor and/ or land based Aster 30s should suffice for Falklands defence with typhoon providing ultimate security. It would take all 24 F16s simultaneously attacking the Falklands to offer a credible threat. Not going to happen.

Richard Beedall
Richard Beedall
8 days ago

This purchase by Argentina gives the MOD and RAF a dilemma. The 4 Tranche 1 Typhoon’s of No 1435 Flight currently based at Mount Pleasant in the Falklands are due to leave service in 2027 – after March 2025 they will be the last of a once 53 strong force. It’s currently expected that they won’t be replaced as there are barely enough Tranche 2 and 3 aircraft to keep 5 frontline squadrons up to strength – and these are over-stretched just meeting UK QRA, NATO and Operation Shader commitments. The options seem to be: (1) Retain in service a… Read more »

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
8 days ago

Well, Labour keep telling us about their “NATO test” so who knows.

Jim
Jim
7 days ago

No one in labour knows that’s for sure. They literally dropped all policies now in the run up to the general election.

Robert Blay
Robert Blay
7 days ago

4 T2/3 Typhoons will replace the 4 T1s post 2027.

RB
RB
7 days ago
Reply to  Robert Blay

Have you a recent official source for this? Apologies if so. Otherwise, a Parliamentary Question is in order.

But everything is uncertain with a new government very likely within 6 months. Starmer’s prevarication on spending more than 2% of GDP on defence means that whilst the present is bad, the future could be worse.

Robert Blay
Robert Blay
7 days ago
Reply to  RB

It was written on the MOD website about T1 Typhoons being retired in 2025 except 4 T1 airframes currently serving in the Falklands that would retire in 2027. They will definitely be replaced with Typhoon. . Our defence posture for the Falklands remains unchanged. And I don’t believe a potential future Labour gov would change that. Or a Conservative gov.

Jonathan
Jonathan
7 days ago
Reply to  Robert Blay

Agree

Robert Blay
Robert Blay
7 days ago
Reply to  Jonathan

👍

Jose
Jose
7 days ago

It’s funny how different views you have compared to us, argentineans. We have been submitted into poverty by leftists and corrupt politicians. With almost 52% of poor population, the least we want/need is a war with a NATO member. Malvinas will eventually be Argentinean in the future, but we’d need more than a handful of aging F16s.

Wasp snorter
Wasp snorter
7 days ago
Reply to  Jose

Falklands will never be Argentinean ‘in the future’. Get used to that idea and all will be well.

Andrew D
Andrew D
7 days ago
Reply to  Wasp snorter

👍

Jose
Jose
6 days ago
Reply to  Wasp snorter

Not interested in “being well” with you. So, don’t tell me what to think. Get used to the idea that you’ll die some day and you won’t see that most of UK’s colonies will be free to choose their own fate as history already showed. Good day, faceless and anonimate keyboard warrior.  

Wasp snorter
Wasp snorter
6 days ago
Reply to  Jose

I’m not anonymous Jose, I live in Barnsley Northern England and the last time I checked in the mirror, I definitely had a face. I’ve had many battles in my life so far but none on a keyboard, so I’m no social media warrior, therefore you need to turn down your hatred please. I said the Falklands will never be Argentinean and that’s a valid thing to say given blood has been lost over them and 99% voted to remain with Britain. Couple of things aside that, why do you come on a UK defence site to make statements like… Read more »

Jose
Jose
5 days ago
Reply to  Wasp snorter

When I wrote about your anonymity I was clearly talking about your UKDJ account. BTW, I live in Almirante Brown, near Buenos Aires. A city named after Argentina’s Navy father, an Irish born sailor. We’re in agreement about the blood shed. I should have never happened, and I’m confident it will not happen again. At the same time, I trust that at some point in time, by peaceful means, las Islas Malvinas will be argentinian. Why do I come to a UK defence site to make statements in your language? Simple, because I can and I want. Does that bug… Read more »

Wasp snorter
Wasp snorter
5 days ago
Reply to  Jose

Happy Easter to your family and people of Almirante Brown. I mention you coming to this site because UK defence has no interest for you, which means you are on here to be provocative to talk about the islands belonging to you. This is a defence site for a country that had to fight for these islands so I am not going to agree with you am I. Of course you are free to be on here but you are not contributing to discussions about UK defence are you, you just want to make a political point about those islands.… Read more »

Jose
Jose
5 days ago
Reply to  Wasp snorter

Happy Easter to your family and people of Almirante Brown. Thank you. I mention you coming to this site because UK defence has no interest for you, which means you are on here to be provocative to talk about the islands belonging to you.  That’s true, I brought the geopolitical view to this convo. End of the discussion for me. Anyway, if that happens, they won’t belong to “me”. This is a defence site for a country that had to fight for these islands so I am not going to agree with you am I. Correct Of course you are… Read more »

Andrew D
Andrew D
7 days ago
Reply to  Jose

IT’S British acutely 🇬🇧

Jonathan
Jonathan
7 days ago
Reply to  Jose

The decision is not up to the Argentinian people, you have never inhabited those islands apart from a coupe of individuals before Argentina existed..who actually acknowledges Uk sovereignty and has asked permission from the Uk crown to set up a whaling station on the island …the islanders will make any decision on sovereignty and the UK government will support that decision…the Argentinian people need to stop trying to enforce their will on others and work with them…. the first people to actually live on the Falklands were french and British..the French gave up sovereignty the British never did..and it’s a… Read more »

Edgardo Romero Cardoso
Edgardo Romero Cardoso
7 days ago

dear british readers: the argentine government have not any wish to use the force for Malvinas soverign. We think the 1982 war was a big mistake of an undemocratic government (fact governmet). Argentine need supersonic capacity to defend our big continental territory and to return to the wester hemisferic. The place that Argentine live, far away of Chine. We will continue asking for our rights about those islands, but always by diplomatic force, never by military force. We live in a solid democratic sistem sice 1983. And all argentine people wanna live in democracy and in pace. Personaly I apreciete… Read more »

farouk
farouk
7 days ago

Edgaro wrote; “”We will continue asking for our rights about those islands,”” I always find it interesting how people who demand something based on emotion, never seem to quote the facts for example under UN law countries can claim ‘exclusive economic zones’ (EEZs) up to 200 nautical miles from their coastlines, when other countries get involved common-sense arbitration and usually a line down the middle is the done thing. So the Falkland islands, the closest Argentina gets to them is around 301 miles , in fact Chile is much closer at around 215 miles away. But for some strange reason they… Read more »

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Wasp snorter
Wasp snorter
7 days ago
Reply to  farouk

Personally I find it annoying that even 3 people voted for it.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
7 days ago
Reply to  farouk

Annnnnd, no surprise, no responses from our readers in South America.

Edgardo Romero Cardoso
Edgardo Romero Cardoso
3 days ago
Reply to  farouk

I think you didn´t understand my last text. I know the really history about Islas Malvinas, but you prefer to heart about the history telled for your Government. You live to 14000 km to Malvinas and my Country is to 500 km to the islands. The Malvinas islands are on plataform continental and submarine. Since 1810 thats territory is argentine land, by the lew, by the history and by the geography. UK don´t have any right in front the Argentine coast. You know that and you prefer don´t listen about that. I don´t believe you are my enemy, and the… Read more »

farouk
farouk
2 days ago

ERC wrote: “”I think you didn´t understand my last text. I know the really history about Islas Malvinas, but you prefer to heart about the history telled for your Government.”” You think wrong, I make it a habit of learning the history of any place I visit (and usually live) So when I lived in Northern Ireland, I learnt the history ( from both sides of the argument) when I lived in Cyprus, Bosnia, Germany, I did similar and when I was in the Falkland’s in 1982 (yes i was there in 82) again in 83/84 (perks of being a… Read more »

Edgardo Romero Cardoso
Edgardo Romero Cardoso
2 days ago
Reply to  farouk

I think you are wrong. The Malvinas Islands are on the Argentine continental shelf, and the territory is a detachment from the American continent. You are English, you have nothing to do on the American continent. Just imperial colonialism. The self-determination of the population implemented by the colonial power does not count. You should know that. The United Kingdom forcibly occupied the Malvinas Islands in 1833 and forcibly evicted the authorities designated by the Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata. I am glad to know that you are a former British military man and you have all my respects.… Read more »

frank
frank
7 days ago

Oh deary me….. all of a sudden, some new accounts spring up from nowhere….. and people are being hooked ! 😂

Jonathan
Jonathan
6 days ago
Reply to  frank

Mate everyone on here loves a good argument…bring them on…the fact their only claim to sovereignty comes from a unilateral treaty creates by a Pope in 1490 just makes is more fun to argue.

FOSTERSMAN
FOSTERSMAN
7 days ago

Let’s sell a couple dozen typhoons to the Taliban and see how Congress likes that… The argument for the argies to go American over china is dumb and lazy at best, I’d bet the RAF and US intelligence wouldn’t mind having a crack against modern Chinese jets. It’s just a prelude to the inevitable big game.

Jose
Jose
7 days ago
Reply to  FOSTERSMAN

You have to raise the bar, not to measure yourself against South American countries with limited military resources…

Micki
Micki
7 days ago

The danger is the ridiculous number of fighters in the RAF, about 130 and falling, not the Argentines themselves, Italy and Spain already have more fighters than Britain.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
7 days ago
Reply to  Micki

Yes, far too few for the RAF.
Italy and Spain don’t have SSN either, so, I wonder if they’re tearing themselves apart over that.

VPR
VPR
7 days ago

If Argentina sends those F-16s anywhere near the Falklands the UK reserves the right to destroy them immediately and with no notice. No funny business should be tolerated and it should be communicated clearly to Argentina’s government. Keep them away from the islands and they will be tolerated.

frank
frank
7 days ago
Reply to  VPR

Give it up now….. 😂…. I see what you are doing here.🙄

Geoff Roach
Geoff Roach
7 days ago

Given Argentina’s geographical location and the state of the economy the question is why do they need fighters at all?

Jonathan
Jonathan
7 days ago
Reply to  Geoff Roach

It’s not got fully trusted relationships with Chile or Uruguay….

Jose
Jose
6 days ago
Reply to  Geoff Roach

We have 1/3 the area of Europe, with yet unexploited natural resources (some other exploited by ilegal nations) we need to care of that business. In a year or two? Nah. In 5 or 10yrs? Who knows.

Geoff Roach
Geoff Roach
5 days ago
Reply to  Jose

I would have thought that maritme reconaissance and transport would be of more use. I suspect the UK may even help you out but attack planes. Not good for economic use.

Jose
Jose
5 days ago
Reply to  Geoff Roach

As you may know, F-16s are multirole, supersonic fighters, a capability we lost with the retirement of the old Mirage III back in 2015. Our budget is extremely limited and armed forces lost many capabilities in the last two decades. We gradually need to recompose our armed forces, little by little. I agree on the maritime reconaissance, hence the fact that a handfule of P-3C Orion have been acquired from Norway (did not arrive yet though).

Andrew D
Andrew D
7 days ago

When the F16s are in service do think the Argentine Air force will maybe buzz round the Falklands island’s just to show they new piece of kit off. But no lost sleep guys sure Typhoon and sky sabre will keep them at Bay 🇬🇧

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
7 days ago

The. F. 16 is an old design and has evolved in many years and it is still a formidable platform.

Pongoglo
Pongoglo
7 days ago
Reply to  Andy reeves

And I’ve no issue with these airframes going to Argentina for all the reasons stated above – except for the fact that they are desperately needed by Ukraine .

Paul T
Paul T
6 days ago
Reply to  Pongoglo

F16’s are going to Ukraine from the same sources,people underestimate the work required for them to operate a Fighter like the F16.

Jose
Jose
6 days ago
Reply to  Andy reeves

Indeed. But still, there are many detractors in Argentina, mainly because they were bought (well, technically not yet) by a new governement who won the elections against “peronists”.

J Bosley
J Bosley
5 days ago

The US wanted this to counter a possible purchase from China and is concerned about a potential new Chinese naval base in Tierra del Fuego.
I personally would not trust Javier Milei who is the first post Falklands War president committed to modernizing the Argentina military. If there is ever a Falkland 2.0 it will be with direct support from other South American counties that Argentina is has been actively seeking military cooperation. The probability of at least indirect support of China is almost a certainty.
I would also expect no direct support from other NATO countries.