Babcock and Elbit Systems Ltd have entered into a partnering agreement to pursue the Ministry of Defence’s ‘aggressor air’ capability under the Air Support to Defence Operational Training (ASDOT) programme. 

The ASDOT programme aims to meet the training component of UK air support across the Air Force, Navy, Army and Joint Forces Commands from 2020, progressively replacing existing contracted and military service provision as these programmes expire or reach their planned end of service date.

In June 2016 the Ministry of Defence released information on what the UK Military Flight Training Systems Project Team would be seeking from the multi-phased programme. These requirements – still subject to refinement – currently cover the provision of live flying assets to meet training requirements for air to air combat; air to surface combat; joint terminal attack controller / forward air controller (airborne); electronic warfare; air traffic control, ground based air defence and aerospace battle management; and live gunnery.

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Roger Hardy, Chief Executive of Babcock’s Aviation sector, said:

“With an ever dynamic threat environment and the introduction of new MOD capabilities, there is a clear need for a step-change in operational training capability.

Our customers need industry partners who can adapt to a changing world by integrating technological advances which maximise synthetic training on live aircraft. Elbit Systems, with its leadership position in providing technologies that deliver representative training effects at reduced cost, is the perfect partner for us.”

Martin Fausset, CEO of Elbit Systems UK said:

“ASDOT is a long-term service delivery project, requiring broad and well established aviation capabilities, delivery to multiple UK MOD users and the ability to manage the customer’s most sensitive information. Babcock is the leader in through-life engineering, support and training, trusted to deliver by its customers and together we will provide a step change from what is available in the operational training market today.

This will enable the UK’s Armed Forces to train against representative live airborne threats with innovation and flexibility, responding to the changing environment and changing defence requirements.”

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Hmm, the Israelis seem to be getting more and more contracts………..and rightly so. They have shown themselves to be at the cutting edge in so many areas of defense.


Steven – And you quietly ignore how they get that capability? Some of the tactics of the IDF have been frankly nothing short of ethnic cleansing and war crimes. I wonder how much ‘capability’ Israel learned from dropping Phosphor bombs onto schoolkids, lobbing random artillery shells into the most crowded ghetto in the world and are we also going to learn how to text people to get them to move so they group together and can be shot easier? I am not at all happy using anything at all from Israel period. And certainly not while they continue to steal… Read more »


Chris wrote: I am not at all happy using anything at all from Israel period Did you know that the 8088 Intel chip was designed in Israel, that chip kicked started computing as we know today Did you know that Microsoft XP and NT were designed in..Israel Do you own a USB pen drive…Yup designed in Israel Do you own a AV program on your computer, does it use a firewall, guess who invented it. Do you use a Mobile phone, Yup Israel Do you Text or instant message, yup Israel Do you use an E-reader such as Kindle…Israeli software… Read more »


@ farouk

Fabulous rebuttal!! Well done!


David, Whenever I got posted anywhere, I ensured i read up on the problems and issues pertinent to the area, So when I found myself in BFPO 58 for a 3 year posting, I read up on the Israeli problem. Now I’ll be honest, I knew nothing about the problems, so I went in wide eyed and bushy tailed. One of the books I read was: SIX DAYS OF WAR JUNE 1967 AND MAKING OF MODERN MIDDLE EAST by Micheal Oran Fantastic book very well researched and most informative. The author ensures you get to feel the emotions of the… Read more »


farouk – Did I say we should ‘boycott’? No I said I was not happy. I never suggested any aggression towards Israel did I? Its an opinion. Its a gut feeling. And forgive me if its personal but I lost a cousin I never knew killed by the Stern gang in Jerusalem by an IED while serving with the British Army who were trying to protect Palestinians. And I have seen nothing since to make me feel any liking for the country or its politics. And here is a surprise for you I actually have Jewish blood and have Jewish… Read more »


Chris you wrote: I am not at all happy using anything at all from Israel period I simply pointed out a few things which I feel you should stop using. As for the bit about losing a family member to the stern Gang , The UK has relations with India,Cyprus,US,Kenya,Malaysia,Iraq all of whom fought for independence by the use of terror/freedom fighters. In fact I have Indian blood in me, should I boycott the Uk for how it oppressed my ancestors for hundreds of years, My family are also Islamic, should I double up on my hatred for the wars… Read more »

David Steeper

Chris. A word of advice. When you’re in a hole stop digging. I speak from experience.


Chris – do us all a favour and stick a sock in your anti-Israeli rant. I had the pleasure of living in Israel and let me tell you all is not what you see on TV. Where I lived came complete with bomb shelters – now why would we have needed those do you think? You would think that after years and years of aid to the tune of 10s of millions of dollars the lives of the Palestinians would have improved right? Why haven’t schools and hospitals been built? Ask Hamas and Fatah. They have plundered the money meant… Read more »


David – Oh why Sweetcheeks? Because I am not entitled to my opinion? My freedom of speech? Because its ‘Israel’ they are beyond criticism? We must never speak against Israel. Or anyone else?

No Pal how about YOU shove your attempt to shut down discussion and maybe listen to other people’s views?


David Steeper – “Chris. A word of advice. When you’re in a hole stop digging. I speak from experience” I am in no hole Old Son. I expressed an opinion. That brought out the pre-scripted responses we have seen to which I gave VERY brief and individual replies. No abuse, no personal animosity from me. I was happy to leave it there ‘agreeing to disagree’ despite those arguing for Israel never wanting to discuss the events of the ’40s to which I referred. We only hear about the ’60s and on and of course there are only Arab terrorists arent… Read more »


It is a land that exists do to the constant vigilance and sacrifices of the IDF. Also no I do not have to accept your version of events. War has consequences and the Palestinians chose war and terrorism. Play stupid games win stupid prizes. There are both Christian and Muslim members of the Knesset. You also pointedly forget the return of Jewish citizens to the land compromising Israel under the Ottoman Empire. Which by the way by your rather illogical argument Britain and France illegally partitioned. Victory decides the merits of arguments – I guess by your way of thinking… Read more »


Elliott – So many errors there its frightening. But you’re a Yank and so I understand your ignorance of facts 1. No the land exists for the reason I stated. You conflate what the IDF do now with those events. The IDF did not create Israel. Zionist terrorists and thousands of illegal immigrants did. Not a clever comment that Elliott 2. I don’t care if you’accept my facts’ or not. They are not ‘my facts’ but they are indeed historical fact. 3. “Palestinians chose war and terrorism” What? There you go with quoting the result not the cause. NO! Palestinians… Read more »


Chris The people who endorsed the recognition of Jerusalem were the Senate of The United States of America multiple times and nearly unanimously since 1993. President Donald J. Trump has merely done his duty before the Constitution as chief executive, faithfully execute the will of Congress by enforcing the law as passed by the elected members of those bodies. What the other the 3 prior ones did was use a loophole meant to be temporary because they acted like to many politicians selfish lawyers to lazy to do their job. Before you go ranting about some all powerful “Jewish Lobby”… Read more »


Elloitt – I never mentioned the ‘Jewish Lobby’ or the word ‘jew’. And I did so deliberately because my beef is with Israel not the Jewish religion (to which I am part related).
But thanks for the inferred antisemitism.


Very well written, but you only miss the key point. What percentage wealth do the jews that make up the 2-3% of the United States’ population? 30% – 40%. Now that’s pretty bloody powerful.

Of course not all of them are pro-Israel.

andy reeves,

make them vstol capable. and cheaper than a f 35

Andy G

These training facilites can be monetised by having our allies use them, similat to the hebridean missile ranges.


Not the place for me to engage in Israel Palestinian debate which is extraordinarily complicated and nuanced.

I will say that when I did business in Israel I found the people very industrious, inventive and straightforward. As I got quoted often ‘we have no oil so it all must come from our hard work and our minds’.

Once you were able to separate what was real from vapourware and the Chutzpah the real stuff was great, so were the people delivering it.

A bit like the Brits the Israelis – a little apart from their neighbours.


My how busy the mossad bots are on this site. The vast majority of British people would be very unhappy if they were aware of the strategic grip this apartheid state is getting over the UKs defence spending.
The Nazis used to claim that the laws of war were on their side ,they also conveniently forgot that they were illegal occupiers.
Farouk,you are suffering from a bad case of confirmation bias,theres no point in reading books if you are just going reject anything that dosnt agree with your preconceptions


Farouk,you are suffering from a bad case of confirmation bias,theres no point in reading books if you are just going reject anything that dosnt agree with your preconceptions Since when is pointing out that the Liberty wasn’t destroyed, that the IS3M was actually superior to any Western Tank at the time and that the Centurion wasn’t deployed in Eygpt/Gaza a preconception. Unlike most, I look at both sides of the story and then make my mind up unlike people who start off with: “My how busy the mossad bots are on this site.” in which to berate others. Which is… Read more »