Defence Secretary John Healey has announced the retirement of several ageing military assets, including Royal Navy ships, drones, and helicopters, as part of a broader effort to modernise the UK’s Armed Forces and address significant financial pressures in the defence budget.

The decision, which will see several key platforms taken out of service by March 2025, is expected to save up to £500 million over the next five years.

Retiring Key Royal Navy Ships

The Royal Navy’s amphibious assault ships, HMS Albion and HMS Bulwark, will be retired almost a decade earlier than planned. Describing the vessels as “effectively mothballed,” Healey revealed that they have not been operational since 2017 and 2023 respectively, yet were costing £9 million annually to maintain.

“These ships provided a valuable capability over many years, but we must look to the future,” said Healey. The two ships will be replaced by the upcoming Multi-Role Support Ships (MRSS), which are part of the government’s long-term naval modernisation strategy.

In the interim, the Royal Navy’s Commando Force will continue to be supported by the Bay Class auxiliary landing docks and RFA Argus.

The Type 23 frigate HMS Northumberland will also be retired in March 2025. According to Healey, the ship was “uneconomical to repair” after structural damage was discovered during its current refit. The Type 23 fleet will gradually be replaced by the advanced Type 26 frigates, with the first, HMS Glasgow, scheduled for delivery in 2027.

Additionally, two Wave Class auxiliary oilers, RFA Wave Knight and RFA Wave Ruler, will leave service by March 2025. Neither ship has been operational since 2017 and 2022, with their roles to be fulfilled by the newer Tide Class auxiliary oilers.

Drones and Aircraft Decommissioned

The Watchkeeper Mk 1 drones, introduced in 2010, are also being retired. Healey cited rapid advancements in drone technology and operational lessons from Ukraine’s war as key reasons for the decision. “A modern army must self-evidently have a modern drone capability,” he said, confirming that the Army will rapidly adopt a new uncrewed aerial system.

The announcement also includes the accelerated retirement of fourteen Chinook helicopters, some over 35 years old, as well as the Puma fleet, which will leave service when its support contract expires in March 2025. While Chinooks will be replaced by the H-47(ER) variant in 2027, the Pumas—currently based in Cyprus and Brunei—will be replaced by Airbus H-145 helicopters starting in 2026.

Balancing Financial Pressures and Modernisation

Healey acknowledged that the decisions, while necessary, would resonate with many who served on these platforms. However, he emphasised that the retirements are critical to modernising the UK Armed Forces and addressing what he called “serious financial pressures.”

“These decisions will deliver better value for money and ensure we are in a better position to modernise and strengthen UK defence,” Healey said, adding that savings will be “retained in full in Defence.”

The retirements are expected to save the Ministry of Defence (MoD) £150 million over the next two years and up to £500 million over five years. These savings, Healey stressed, will be reinvested into defence as part of the government’s wider strategic defence review.

As Healey put it, “We face increasing global threats… Defence needs increased resilience and readiness for the future. Difficult decisions are required.”

George Allison
George has a degree in Cyber Security from Glasgow Caledonian University and has a keen interest in naval and cyber security matters and has appeared on national radio and television to discuss current events. George is on Twitter at @geoallison
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Ian Skinner
Ian Skinner
3 months ago

The Puma is being replaced with the H-145? that is a much smaller helicopter: Surely this is a misprint? what happened to the Medium Helicopter programme?

XCHF
XCHF
3 months ago
Reply to  Ian Skinner

Only mentions Puma in Cyprus and Brunei – Hopefully NMH is a different issue?

John Taylor
John Taylor
3 months ago
Reply to  Ian Skinner

I was thinking that when I read it on BBC news website surely they mean the H-175. I thought it was a BBC typo given that it is repeated here I hope it’s a government press release typo.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
3 months ago
Reply to  Ian Skinner

6 are being bought for Cyprus and Brueni.
Unless FMH is confirmed the RAF SHF has just lost it’s medium lift capability and probably RAF Benson with it.

Paul.P
Paul.P
3 months ago

Wouldn’t be surprised to see more Merlin HC3 in the SDR as the medium lift solution.

rmj
rmj
3 months ago

Can’t see the point of retaining Benson

MR_Wales
MR_Wales
3 months ago
Reply to  rmj

Maybe not Benson specifically though I have fond memories of the place. The key issue is that we do not have sufficient MoD controlled runways as it stands. Brize is rammed beyond what anyone could have envisaged while the rest of the RAF’s operational capability is concentrated on Coningsby and Leuchars. Three bombs and the lot has gone and nowhere left to disperse to other than civilian runways.

Tony
Tony
3 months ago
Reply to  MR_Wales

Leuchars – you mean Lossie? But agree with your point.

Jason
Jason
2 months ago
Reply to  MR_Wales

air bases bombed by who ? there is no country on earth that is going to bomb a UK runway

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
3 months ago
Reply to  rmj

Has a runway and all the RAFSHF simulators for starters.
It’s s strategic asset that once built on is gone then when we find ourselves at war or all our assets are in one place like now in most cases HMG will mystifying wonder where they can disperse to and get a runway from that is linked to the GPSS.

Bexwell
Bexwell
3 months ago

New garden village in Oxfordshire soon or new solar farm. Waiting for the estate agents at Bensons Guardroom…

AlbertStarburst
AlbertStarburst
3 months ago

So they save £500mil but ignore the current world threat and need for reserves. Note cuts before any announcement of replacing (let alone growing) capability. True colours shown. Head in sand. same old same old.

Robert Billington
Robert Billington
3 months ago

We’ve a nation on the sick, too many migrants that don’t pay taxes or don’t work (verified on gov.uk), nhs and civil service fattened beyond belief and they cut our navy while there’s a war on! Unbelievable!!

Mark Franks
Mark Franks
3 months ago

I was vilified on this platform when I said that this government would be savage with cuts so much so I’ve stopped commenting on this platform.

Jacko
Jacko
3 months ago
Reply to  Mark Franks

Really? There aren’t many in here who were not expecting this!

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
3 months ago
Reply to  Jacko

There are a LOT of Labour lovies here mate, they only ever see Tory cuts and I’ve debated many of them.
Rose tinted glasses might be coming off shortly.
I get some of these cuts, it’s the lack of replacements that concern me.
All to save what is effectively chicken feed over 5 years.

DB
DB
3 months ago

Buddy, some of it is down to lack of crews and in part that can be blamed on industrial relations over the years – you work in the railway and so know a thing or two about that…

Totally with you on lack of replacements but until the manning is sorted, is there any point OR do we jettison the carriers which take an inordinate amount of manning? I was green, so can’t comment.

Jonathan
Jonathan
3 months ago

To be honest the only cut that really pissed me off was Bulwark..all the rest is retirement of stuff that will either sit in extended readiness until is razor blades ( Albion and the waves), was knackered ( the rotors and T23) or just needed replacement ( Watchkeeper).

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
3 months ago
Reply to  Jonathan

Not aware the Waves were knackered
Spend money on recruitment and crew them, but it went to train drivers and teachers.
Watchkeeper had just had GTMI added.
Watchkeeper is better than nothing at all.
The RAC Armd Cav recc regiments and the RA are currently going round with nothing at all or scavenged Warrior and
LG as they cut their kit without a replacement in place too.
Same with Puma and Chinook, more capability and numbers gaps, IF rge replacements actually arrive.
What do 28 33 and 230 Sqns do in the meantime?

George Amery
George Amery
3 months ago

Fully agree Daniele. So easy to make a cut, and no replacement is of great concern. With a forward thinking government, we could understand making a cut in conjunction with developing and replacing with a modern replacement. But no not with this or previous government’s.
Cheers
George

klonkie
klonkie
3 months ago

Hey DM – fair points you have raise . A few months back there was a piece on Watchkeeper. I recall only about a dozen were serviceable, so no surprise they are going. All fine, but what does the replacement look like, Mr Healy?. I was taken back by both Albion and Bulwark getting chopped, thought they’d keep one.

I can’t see SDR 25 going well – pardon the pessimism.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
3 months ago
Reply to  klonkie

I think we have heard it all before from politicians. They get away with it a the general public, for the most part, do not know the details, nor care.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
3 months ago

Good old Labour. We need to modernise, the same old excuses. Yes….we also need assets! MRSS will “replace” the LPDs. You’ll find they only replace the 3 Bays, Argus at a push. Northumberland. Ok, she was already gone. The Tides DID NOT replace the Waves, the Tides replaced the Rovers and Leafs. But let’s move the goalposts there as people don’t remember. Puma being “replaced” by H145s amounts to 6 cabs, and presumably means FMH is gone too? And by extension, RAF Benson? So alongside heavy aircraft like Atlas doing the work of the smaller Hercules, battlefield muedium lift is… Read more »

ATJohn
ATJohn
3 months ago

All of this is made worse considering that it is to save just £500m over 5 years, very little when you consider a budget of almost £60bn per year but at a very significant loss of capability. It won’t be long before the Armed Forces are reduced to a very expensive home defence force with CASD, with the government still telling allies it can take the lead on XYZ for headlines and politicians talking tough to unfriendly nations with nothing to back it up and losing credibility on the world stage. It’s more important for them to be able to… Read more »

Jack
Jack
3 months ago
Reply to  ATJohn

The Chinese make some lovely cheap Golf buggies our troops can ride around in. The Russians use them a lot and the Ukrainians always seem happy when they turn up instead of one of those nasty BMP things.

Bazza
Bazza
3 months ago
Reply to  ATJohn

Is there anything official on FMH being gone or is that just a reasonable guess at the moment?

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
3 months ago
Reply to  Bazza

I have no idea.

Coll
Coll
2 months ago
Reply to  Bazza

Hi, I had to reply on this post because the reply button wasn’t on the post in response to about the arrowhead 140 having 68 cells on the ‘Clyde shipyard continues to churn out warships’ article. The 68 cells is on the Babcock config page for the Arrowhead 140 by selecting the interactive diagram under the Anti-air warfare tab.

John Clark
John Clark
3 months ago

Yep, no massive surprises here, all out of the way before SDSR25….

I suspect SDSR25 will announce Watchkeeper will be replaced by a smaller and cheaper off the shelf option, with the rest of its mission taken over by Protector…

Perhaps an uplift in Protector numbers??

Puma replacement, either cancelled without replacement and it’s mission handed off to Chinook fleet, or a blank cheque handed to Leonardo…

BB85
BB85
3 months ago
Reply to  John Clark

The main stream media went mad when we lost so many troops in Iraq and Afghanistan because we had cut our air lift capability to the bear bones then, imagine what it must look like now.
It is a disgrace that the Puma replacement was allowed to be delayed for decades due to incompetence from the political and military leadership. Black Hawks would have been cheaper than lifex updates to the Puma’s.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
3 months ago
Reply to  John Clark

A Chinook cannot do what Puma does.
No more than an Atlas or C17 isn’t suitable for some of the Hercs roles but we’ll ignore all that.

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
3 months ago

Actually understand and potentially agree w/ some of the announced measures. It is obvious that the MoD is compelled to extract even marginal savings from the existing budget in order to fund future acquisitions (as documented by the anticipated deficit in the 10 yr. equipment plan). At this juncture, the only viable option for HMS Northumberland may indeed be salvage. However, jettisoning the LPDs a decade before potential replacement vessels become operational would seem to be a significant calculated risk. Perhaps the USN could provide conveyance for the RM, but that could be assured under all circumstances. From an intra-alliance… Read more »

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
3 months ago
Reply to  FormerUSAF

…could NOT be assured…🙄

Joe16
Joe16
3 months ago
Reply to  FormerUSAF

Yes, likewise, some of it makes sense- especially if most of the vessels are tied up alongside anyway.
That said, the key thing will be the replacement types across the board- how quickly and how much of a direct replacement they really are.
Also, the comments about Puma were surprising to me, they seem to imply that our medium lift capacity is pretty well atrophied at this point, which is a concern…

Joe16
Joe16
3 months ago

Hey mate, makes for heavy news. I’ve seen it suggested that they’re making the cuts now so that the actual SDR is more positive, but that may be an optimistic position. I will offer a partial counter to your position, while agreeing with a very core part of it: If the ships are drawn up alongside with no crews, have been for a while and likely will be for a large portion of their time until replacement, it makes sense to cut the costs now and move them on. I can’t comment on whether the stated replacements are like-for-like in… Read more »

Jon
Jon
3 months ago
Reply to  Joe16

The RAF has 23 Pumas, due to be replaced with NMH. These six Jupiter H145s are replacing Stratcom’s Pumas, which are as you said, used for training, S&R and support in Brunei and Cyprus. Different Pumas.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
3 months ago
Reply to  Joe16

Correct on Puma. If no FMH no medium capability.
Watchkeeper is too slow….Do we think Protector is fast then? Or well armed?
My primary gripe is assets binned then years gapped without the replacement.
It’s s real sickness we have and is exploited as further down the line the replacement itself is either cancelled or reduced, with HMG thinking the public don’t notice.
They don’t. I do, so do others. It’s an old old MoD trick.

expat
expat
3 months ago

I do get some of the cuts but the concerning thing is the cuts are needed get programs like MRSS off the ground, that’s clearly not right. The defence budget need the headroom to develop the next iteration or new capability without impacting the current capabilities. Of course Labour can point to the Tories and the carrier debacle where they gapped capability but quite frankly that’s measuring themselves against a very low bar, but that’s their choice and hardly supports the pre election mantra of change when you do the same as the previous government then say well they did… Read more »

Jason
Jason
2 months ago

watchkeeper is officially garbage and rightly assigned to the bin, Ukraine has taught us loads and mew systems now required, fortunately there are good off the shelf options

David
David
3 months ago

The problem with the MRSS is that under the last government, we were told that we were going to get ‘at least three and up to six’ ships – that’s not a guarantee that we are going to get six. How many are we going to get? Based on today’s announcement, we need all six!

Jon
Jon
3 months ago
Reply to  David

Why six when they’ll only be replacing four ships? Good job we got rid of the Albions, Ocean and Largs Bay or people would have said we needed eight. If only we could find a way to decommission a few more before the MRSS order, there won’t be any amphibious capability left to replace at all. Think of the savings! I suppose we can kill a couple off in the SDR, leaving two. Argus is really old and was due to go this year. If we keep pushing the numbers down slowly enough nobody will notice.

Paul.P
Paul.P
3 months ago
Reply to  Jon

A bit cynical but I know what you mean. I do see us building 4 MRSS to replace the Bays and Argus, but I think they will be large capable LPD / LSD designs, just not needing Albion sized crewing. I see the MCM role moving from the 3 Bays to something like Kongsberg Vanguard.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
3 months ago
Reply to  Jon

BOOM.

Mark F
Mark F
3 months ago

No issue with the T23, Helos and Watchkeeper, but do wonder about Albion, Bulwark and the two Wave Oilers.

James
James
3 months ago

So much for the SDR

Peter S
Peter S
3 months ago

The amount saved by scrapping the Albions is tiny- enough to fund the costs of a weeks worth of illegal migrants. But it probably doesn’t make sense to retain them, given the change of operations by the RM. In the long interval before MRSS arrive, there is always the option of using one of the QEs in an amphibious role, alongside the Bays. Northumberland too far gone to resurrect, but it would be better if some acceleration of the build schedules of T31 and T26 could be achieved. With so few surface ships able to put to sea, the Tides… Read more »

JohnG
3 months ago
Reply to  Peter S

Really good article in navy lookout regarding using carriers in amphibious role. In a nutshell, they are completely unsuitable for this.

David Penney
3 months ago

It does make me laugh how utterly defenceless we now are as a nation…only a couple of decades ago we were never going to dip below the 50 frigates and destroyer , then it was 35, 23, 18, 15, and now 9….
We could muster a fight for a couple of days then raise the white flag….
All manner of assets have been removed from our once ” armed forces” Today we have no more than a ” non armed forces” …

rmj
rmj
3 months ago
Reply to  David Penney

Within less than 100 years we’ve gone from ruler of the seas to barely able to put a flotilla to sea! The River B2s are a joke warship, the carriers have barely any anti ship capabilities (just 2x surface ships with ASuW). Our mine hunters are down to a few. As for troop transport getting rid of C130s, Chinooks and Pumas leaves very little for tactical movement. The complacent commentators on this forum tend to look at our forces and NATO with rose tinted spectacles when in reality we’re now a 2nd tier European power with 2 carriers and a… Read more »

Matty
Matty
3 months ago
Reply to  rmj

Reality Check: we have neither the global power nor the economy to support the Navy of 100 years ago. Such a comparison is pointless. Countries have the militaries they can afford.

Sooty
Sooty
3 months ago
Reply to  Matty

Or want to afford.

Scott Broadhead
Scott Broadhead
3 months ago

Labour always weak on defence.
Devastating.
These ships should be being put to sea, not sold.

Harry Palmer
Harry Palmer
3 months ago

All UK political parties are weak on defence, because there are few votes in it. I blame the media who have ignored defence in their coverage for decades instead focussing on domestic matters. If defence became higher profile just watch that % of GDP rise. Sadly with the passing of the generations that have experienced the horrors of war, we have become a nation of ostriches.

Harry Palmer
Harry Palmer
3 months ago

All parties are weak on defence – no votes in it. I blame the media who fail to educate the public on what is really happening in the World and the horrors of war. Disarmament only works if everyone does it, and unilaterally encourages war. These are the same people who are happy to let the USA finance their protection, but whinge when we have to follow their foreign policy as a result. If defence became more prominent for voters the %gdp would soar.

Ex_Service
Ex_Service
3 months ago

What idiots!

The naval cuts are particularly stupid.

Island nation, with a decades old critical amphibious assault capability. Cut it. Frigates… (resiting Nelson). Cut it. Fools!

Clearly cannot read the room …I didn’t see anywhere the new national school syllabus for russian & chinese languages – lowercase intentional.

Well done (sic) UK voters.

James Bussey
James Bussey
3 months ago

It’s high time the USA dumped Europe and NATO: this defence review is just sending the incoming President the wrong message about the UK’s commitment to fight the Russians. We should be not just replacing obsolete equipment, but adding to it in order to strengthen our offensive capabilities.
But then the UK public and their politicians have always loathed their Armed Forces: UK defence policy has always been to reduce them to the lowest possible level, and to get someone else to do our fighting for us. Since 1990 it’s been the USA, and Ukraine from 2014 onwards.

Knight7572
Knight7572
3 months ago
Reply to  James Bussey

So you want us to be at mercy of a monster like Putin?

Stewart Hitchen
Stewart Hitchen
3 months ago

Don’t expect anything but cuts dressed up as future investment . The First responsibility of government sacrificed for spending on the sacred NHS to ensure they are re-elected.

Ex_Service
Ex_Service
3 months ago

What idiots!

The naval cuts are particularly stupid.

Island nation, with a decades old critical amphibious assault capability. Cut it. Frigates… (resiting Nelson). Cut it. Fools!

Clearly cannot read the room …I didn’t see anywhere the new national school syllabus for russian & chinese languages – lowercase intentional.

Well done (sic) UK voters.

Phil Waring
Phil Waring
3 months ago

What is the point of the Defence Review then; is this not a bit premature given that any replacements are years away? Also, to continue to blame the previous government about “the state it (everything) was left in” is old (and factually incorrect) news. The financial amount “being saved” is miniscule in the great defence scheme of things. Finally, what (expletive deleted) message does that send to Russia , China and above all, our allies?
Incredible!

expat
expat
3 months ago
Reply to  Phil Waring

We all know defence review is pre cooked it will tell the government exactly what they want to hear.

RB
RB
3 months ago

Reeves clearly won’t give the MOD a penny more than she announced in the budget – she needs every £billion (or rather £40 billion) she can scrape up for the NHS. RUSI calculates that after inflation and pay rises the MOD’s budget in 2025/26 will be just 0.1% higher in real terms than 2024/25. Clearly the plan now is to announce defence cuts ASAP in order to give the SDR team a small amount of financial headroom. Come Q2 2025 the government will then be able to trumpet increased expenditure on AI, drones, space, … without actually committing any new… Read more »

Jerry
Jerry
3 months ago
Reply to  RB

Why would the RM increase by nearly 6000 under the army…. They’re target for thier new roles and structure is 4000. They’re currently struggling to maintain that through course pass rates and retention. How would they more than double under the army and why would they need to. I don’t think the RM going to the army would be a good idea (despite the fact the navy is f*****g them over). The RM have and are being changed into SOC force just like the ranger reg. The army won’t want two forces like that and won’t want to spend the… Read more »

Jerry
Jerry
3 months ago
Reply to  RB

Re read it, the armys strength would in increase, I take it back ! They wouldn’t get 6000 however !

Aurelius
Aurelius
3 months ago

Just because they look like imbeciles, talk and think like imbeciles, don’t let them fool you, they really are imbeciles.

Paul
Paul
3 months ago

Okay, there’s some justification behind some of these cuts, but still, it does feel like we’re accepting our fate here a little. Once this kit is gone, it ain’t coming back. We’ve been promised jam tomorrow numerous times.

Ex_Service
Ex_Service
3 months ago

What idiots!

The naval cuts are particularly stupid.

Island nation, with a decades old critical amphibious assault capability. Cut it. Frigates… (resiting Nelson). Cut it. Fools!

Clearly cannot read the room …I didn’t see anywhere the new national school syllabus for russian & chinese languages – lowercase intentional.

Well done (sic) UK voters.

Mark B
Mark B
3 months ago
Reply to  Ex_Service

Hmmm well (in theory) this is just the bad news the great new kit is yet to be announced (we hope). Whilst I will reserve judgement until then it is perhaps worth noting that some of this kit (especially Watchkeeper) was giving trouble. That said in this day and age I’m not sure scrapping anything is a good idea. I thought the original plan for Albion & Bulwark was a good one. We don’t need these ships everyday but we do need them.

RB
RB
3 months ago

Trump takes office and opens the Defence red box: Item 1. Due to world events, the UK government is urging the USA and other NATO allies to increase their defence spending significantly; Item 2. The UK government has announced major defence cuts. Mmmm

Yousef
Yousef
3 months ago

Why is the British military allowed to become deadbeats and a liability all those ministers who cut , cut and cut should be held accountable

Matty
Matty
3 months ago
Reply to  Yousef

With an aging population, the UK government priority (now and for the immediate future) is clearly going to be the NHS above all else. It makes sense given the power of the elderly voting block in a democracy. But it leads to so much else being neglected.

Tim B
Tim B
3 months ago
Reply to  Matty

An ageing population is one of the key issues for the UK at the moment (lack of investment and poor productivity are some of the other key issues). All things being equal, a country with an older population can’t be as dynamic and wealth producing as one with a younger one. This should be an obvious and uncontentious observation.The large scale migration since early 2000s just delayed and softened the blow; without it we would likely be the oldest country in Western Europe.

RB
RB
3 months ago

Every defence review since WW2 has made immediate cuts with the promise of a bit of jam years down the line. It looks this government is deviously trying to get the bad news out early, so the SDR White Paper when published will appear to be an all good news story – without even one extra pound actually being allocated to the defence of the UK.

Nick Sills
3 months ago

It appears that Labour and successive Tory governments want to reduce our armed services to a level which would make it inevitable that to be effective would have to join a EU planned force! To see Prince of Wales floating around with nothing on the deck is embarrassing and basically makes the UK a laughing stick around the world. Was it 2 billion to build! A nation that can’t defend its own borders is dangerous and I believe we have now reached that point. We now have 5 years of these lunatics in charge and forget the Tories were no… Read more »

Peter S
Peter S
3 months ago
Reply to  Nick Sills

The UK defence budget is one of the largest in the world but it has been poorly spent. The carrier plan was overly ambitious and the ships cost twice the original budget at £7.6b. Given the inability to fund the aircraft numbers they are capable of carrying, it would have been far better to build something smaller and more affordable, able to deploy say 12 F35 Italy built Cavour and Trieste for a third of the price. Japan is simply adapting helicopter carriers. The pressure this placed on other RN procurement is obvious. Dim witted admirals were willing to sacrifice… Read more »

Paul.P
Paul.P
3 months ago

Overdue realism and clearing the decks for the SDR.

Mark P
Mark P
3 months ago

We could keep half of this kit if Baroness Mone hadn’t ripped the country off for £250 million

Jonathan
Jonathan
3 months ago

It’s not so much the cuts for me, in reality the cut that mattered here was Bulwark, everything else was always going to sit in extended readiness until it’s scrapped ( Albion and Waves) was already completely knackered or (T23 and rotors) or just needed replacement ( watchkeeper). The waves in reality are just sitting for 4 years until being scrapped, there is no crew and no plan to replace, the government and RN had always decided the 4 tides were all they were going to have. ..so scrapping them now is just admitting what everyone knows the tanker really… Read more »

BMickiETTAYAK
BMickiETTAYAK
3 months ago

Forget the 5 extra escorts, god help us to maintain in the medium term 19, except for the nuclear deterrent and the 2 carriers with few fighters on them, Britain is going to be an irrelevant nation in military terms thanks to massive cuts during the last 33 years. With Russian agression , chinese expansion and the need to defend overseas territories France for example is increasing its military capability planning a nuclear super carrier, expanding aircraft numbers, army and ships. Britain on the contrary is reducing It, maybe Starmer is thinking to sell overseas territories, (Chagos is an example).… Read more »

Micki
Micki
3 months ago

Forget the 5 extra escorts, god help us to maintain in the medium term 19, except for the nuclear deterrent and the 2 carriers with few fighters on them, Britain is going to be an irrelevant nation in military terms thanks to massive cuts during the last 33 years. With Russian agression , chinese expansion and the need to defend overseas territories France for example is increasing its military capability planning a nuclear super carrier, expanding aircraft numbers, army and ships. Britain on the contrary is reducing It, maybe Starmer is thinking to sell overseas territories, (Chagos is an example).… Read more »

G DAVIES
G DAVIES
3 months ago

Labour happy to spend £8 million per day on housing for illegals