Nearly 1,000 troops have gone through final preparations for deployment to Afghanistan, say the British Army.

The deployment sees 1st Battalion The Rifles and 1st Battalion The Royal Irish operating together for the first time since World War Two, according to a release.

Brigadier Alan Richmond, head of the Army in Wales and Commander 160 Brigade, is quoted as saying the deployment was significant, for a number of reasons.

“This is a true UK endeavour with the British Army showing off the best bonds of the union, with the deployment supported by Reservists from 6th Battalion The Rifles and 2nd Battalion The Royal Irish, who also come under my command, with Scottish and Welsh soldiers also serving with the units. This is also the first time Riflemen and Rangers will operate beside each other since World War Two.”

The main effort of the deployment is for Riflemen and Rangers to provide armoured force protection to NATO advisors to allow them to support the Government of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan and its institutions.

UK troops will be deployed to several locations within Kabul as part of the NATO mission, Resolute Support. The troops deploy in various stages from mid-March for a six-month tour, say the Army.

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Daniele Mandelli
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Daniele Mandelli

The Light Protected Mobility Battalions no longer exist, so
good to see the Foxhound is still used.

I think that is indeed a Foxhound behind the soldiers?

Can it withstand the IED’s though? I assume Mastiff is too large for urban areas?

Rfn_Weston
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Rfn_Weston

Foxhound is better than a snatch that is a fact!

Nice to see the HK416 in circulation as well! Cracking weapon system.

Cam Hunter
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Cam Hunter

Yeah I agree, nice weapon.

Elliott
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Elliott

HK 417, look at the magazine shows that it is a 7.62×51 variant.

BV Buster
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BV Buster

Just to be that boring gun guy (kind of my job) the Sharpshooter (L-129A1) isn’t really a 417, it’s a bespoke weapon made by ballistics perverts in America, based (sort of) on a stoners SR-25. It’s the heaviest of the rifles we trailed but it moves less when firing so the shooter can keep his (or her) sight picture.

Weston, my bike is better protected then a Snatch! But it doesn’t have that weird smell about it.

BV

Steven
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Steven

It is made by LMT (Lewis Machine & Tool) not Heckler & Koch

Rfn_Weston
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Rfn_Weston

BV / Steven… Yep LMT definitely rings a bell… Am I right in thinking that these can be fired after being fully submerged without the chamber being cleared? This version is a short stroke piston as opposed to direct gas I believe?… Stops the over pressure etc when water sits in the chamber – Ideal for Commando and SF roles I’d say!

BV Buster
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BV Buster

Think of the gas parts like a love child between an M16 and an SA80, still a short stroke as opposed to direct gas impingement. Direct gas impingement is a pain in the ass for cleaning, remember digging out GMPG gas parts?, same detail, using gas to cycle the bolt but also to unlock is an incredibly light system but in shits carbon all over your working parts.

BV

Rfn_Weston
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Rfn_Weston

Certainly do! Dirty old things! Not nice for lumping around either! 🙂

Cam Hunter
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Cam Hunter

Yes that’s the foxhound and it was designed with IED survivability in mind. I’m not sure if the Army will be getting large numbers of foxhounds though.

Graham Moore
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Graham Moore

I think the army has 400 Foxhounds They were all delivered between 2007 and 2013, I believe.

Ulya
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Ulya

I understand the reason given here for the deployment, I dont understand what the end goal is, the fighting will never end and the government will not last once western troops leave, how long before this is understood?

Cam Hunter
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Cam Hunter

I think the goal is to eventually let afghan troops take over all of Afghanistan once We have trained and equipped enough of them to an ok standard, but not sure how long they will last with all the desertions with expensive equipment going on. Sandhurst in the Sand should be training officers to a good standard so it’s upto the normal Afghan soldier to follow them and fight for there country now. But as long as NATO personnel are there then there will always be Nato troops protecting them. I say leave Afghanistan to sort itself out now. Even… Read more »

Ulya
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Ulya

Too many tribal conflicts, too many warlords Cam, no western solution would ever be accepted, no government will have enough backing to last long enough if it is seen as a western puppet. Westerners dont do well in Muslim countries at the best of times, nobody does well in Afghanistan. I dont know how many UK troops are still getting hurt there but it must be time to leave to stop your pointless loses

Daniele Mandelli
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Daniele Mandelli

SF, Drones and Intelligence I agree, which is pretty much the situation from Yemen to Somalia to Syria.

Anything in greater numbers then no.

We just look like occupiers.

Matthew jury
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Matthew jury

God bless and hope you come back home safely to your families.

Daniele Mandelli
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Daniele Mandelli

I agree with Ulya Afghanistan is all about tribal warfare. We could not defeat them the first time, the Russians could not, and we will not win this time. As soon as we leave the vacuum will be filled. I agreed with going in there after 9/11. I did not agree with occupying parts of it like Russia did in the early 80’s. And that makes me feel bad saying that for all the magnificent efforts of the British Army and losses suffered. We just become infidels occupying another’s land. If there is anything positive it has given our forces… Read more »

Rfn_Weston
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Rfn_Weston

Shoot them in the heart, that’ll change their mind.

(Tongue in cheek or course)

dave12
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dave12

Question is if NATO leave and the taliban do manage to take control, will afghanistan become a terrorist haven again??

Daniele Mandelli
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Daniele Mandelli

I think that is inevitable Dave, unless we are talking of a never ending commitment.

How much of Afghanistan is currently controlled by NATO or Afghan Government forces?

dave12
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dave12

True , the figures of afgan soldiers killed in action in recents year is scary I just hope they hold the line after top training from NATO troops is done.
We should of kept our eye on the ball in afghanistan instead of invading Iraq.

Daniele Mandelli
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Daniele Mandelli

Yes maybe. As I said above I was all in favour of going in to Afghanistan after 9/11 with special forces, using the Northern Alliance as proxy forces, airpower, ISTAR, and the like. And that should continue. But not tens of thousands as an occupation force. Truth be known I also approved of Iraq 2003 as I believed the WMD line preached by Blair. That man should be impeached. And to be fair the Iraqi’s did have WMD as proved by the attack on Halabja in 1988. As for Afghanistan if NATO are in Kabul and other strategic places like… Read more »

Elliott
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Elliott

I didn’t believe we should have invaded after the Towers and Pentagon were hit. I thought we just should have waited till 9/12 then retaliated by launching a massive carpet bombing raid ala WWII on every populated area then declared victory by retaliation. Then went on our merry way.
If any other foreign terrorist launched another 9/11 style attack we should merely have repeated on whatever country gave them shelter before the attack.

Iqbal
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Iqbal

What is the point if sending a paltry 1000 troops when the Afghan government is in peace talks with the Taliban? How many more innocents will the British army kill while out on deployments? The atrocities committed by the Protestant English army in Catholic Ireland have come to the surface again with the decision to prosecute the murderer ‘soldier F’. Other murderers in the Parachute Regiment were allowed to die in peace or escape accountability because of judicial games and attempts at suppression through government sponsored committees like the Widgery commission, who were hand in glove with the Government. For… Read more »

farouk
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farouk

Iqbal wrote:
“What is the point if sending a paltry 1000 troops when the Afghan government is in peace talks with the Taliban?”

Well, if you had bothered to read the article you would have learnt this:
“The main effort of the deployment is for Riflemen and Rangers to provide armoured force protection to NATO advisors to allow them to support the Government of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan and its institutions.”

Iqbal
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Iqbal

Yes Farouk, I can read. What is the point of the deployment, when we haven’t managed to accomplish anything, including protecting our troops for 18 years or more? More fodder for IEDs.

Didn’t a larger (but still inadequate) British force leave Helmand province with its tail between its legs? Didn’t we run away…. sorry…. ‘extract’ Easy Company from MUsa Qala?

You’d have thought there were some historians amongst the Brass who knew that we tried to occupy Afghanistan in the 18th century and were wiped out, as were the Soviets. Leave well alone.

Airborne
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Airborne

And your history is very limited, as your knowldge of the previous conflicts in Afghan shows. 18th century? Wiped out? I believe you are trying to comment on the first and second anglo Afghan wars? Maybe look them up, get your initial facts correct before coming up with the froth and piffle son. How sad.

Graham Moore
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Graham Moore

Iqbal, we did not run away in Dec 2014. We left Helmand province iow a long standing plan for withdrawal agreed by ISAF and contributing Governments. Our intent was to mentor ANSF to take over and this happened. Where I do agree with you is that we never put enough boots on the ground. Also, we should have been assigned Kandahar rather than Helmand province.

farouk
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farouk

Iqbal wrote: “How many more innocents will the British army kill while out on deployments? The atrocities committed by the Protestant English army in Catholic Ireland have come to the surface again with the decision to prosecute the murderer ‘soldier F’.2 Enough already with the selective revisionist history. In 38 years of troubles the death toll for the province is as follows: Republican paramilitary groups 2058 Loyalist paramilitary groups 1027 British security forces 363 Persons unknown 79 Irish security forces 5 Total 3532 Yes, even 1 death is 1 death too many and yet race hustles like you omit the… Read more »

Rfn_Weston
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Rfn_Weston

Farouk, very well put. I was going to summarize with my own response of ‘twat’.

But you’ve done a much better job of it.

Airborne
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Airborne

Farouk, don’t bother trying to give him a reasoned explanation, just remind him he is a bell-end and take a turn on his mum!

Iqbal
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Iqbal

Insulting mothers is an admission I hit a nerve.

It’s time the right wi g ‘rule Britania’ Tone if this site changed and we had more balance.

farouk
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farouk

“Insulting mothers is an admission I hit a nerve. No, just sick to death of intolerant religious bigots like yourself who on seeking asylum in the West, instead of adapting, subscribe to the mores that ruined their so called superior homelands in the first place in which to remake the West into the lands they left behind. “It’s time the right wi g ‘rule Britania’ Tone “ Oh the irony, we celebrate Pakistani, Indian, Nigerian, Scottish, Irish and welsh nation days in the Uk. That is deemed OK. Yet to bigots like yourself anybody who supports the Union flag is… Read more »

Airborne
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Airborne

By replying I have hit a nerve of your haven’t I son. More balance? It’s a military site for commenting on military matters isn’t it TH. Oh dear, trolling a site like this means you need to get out more son.

Iqbal
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Iqbal

Farouk, you’re making my point by equivocating between an army of a nation state fighting under the banner of a country that used to respect human rights with a non state actor like the IRA that is considerate to be a terrorist organisation. Why don’t you answer the hard questions about British state, military and legal collusion in hiding evidence of murder of unarmed Catholic civil rights marchers? The murder of solicitor Pat Finucin? The fact that the Protestant Ulster Police (now disbanded) and the army played a Pro Unionist role during the Troubles? As for your rant about Pakistani… Read more »

Airborne
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Airborne

Secular left wing British Bangladeshi, oh keep the noise down, you are waffling piffle, your a racist bell end with a serious chip on your shoulder, and a racist with limited grasp of history and a limited subject matter experience. And hey, guess what, I couldn’t give a toss what colour or race you claim to be, a bell end is a bell end isn’t it TH?

Airborne
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Airborne

Ah a troll, a sad troll at that, but one who’s mum is pretty hot, and does the pre tour leave requests for the lads. Tell your mum cheers iqbal. However could be another avatar for TH, as he mentioned “English” and as we will remember that was THs thing, hatred and trolling and crying about the English.

Glass Half Full
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Glass Half Full

Seems like a bit of perspective and some facts are required in the comments section. The vast majority of casualties in Afghanistan are Afghan security forces and civilians, killed by Taliban and ISIS. In 2018, the worst year since the start of the conflict for Afghan civilians, nearly 4,000 civilians were killed, more in one year than the total number of coalition troops killed since the start of the conflict, which stands at about 3,500. The Afghan security forces deaths seem to be much worse, at somewhere between 10-20,000 in 2018. Since the end of the US and NATO combat… Read more »

dave12
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dave12

Spot on!!!