It has been confirmed that the missiles resulting from the Future Cruise/Anti-Ship Weapon (FC/ASW) programme will be compatible with the Mark 41 vertical launch system.
The Mk 41 Vertical Launching System is a modular, below deck sited, missile launcher system that makes use of silos to launch and store missiles. The UK intends to use it on the Type 26 Frigate.
On the 14th of December 2021 the Defence Committee published a report titled ‘We’re going to need a bigger Navy’. The Government’s response has been published below.
The Defence Committee concluded in their report:
“The Department must deliver the funding to swiftly end the spectacle
of space on highly capable vessels being used to carry nothing but air. This should
include consideration of both the threats and the opportunities posed by hypersonic
missiles as well as the potential to use common missile silos across classes and to deliver
compatibility with different international partners.
The Department should confirm in its response that it still intends the FC/ASW to be compatible with the Mark 41 vertical launch system. The Department should also be mindful of previous warnings that procuring a ‘bridging’ system with long post-2030 life expectancy could damage the relationship with France.”
The Government responded:
“Hypersonic missiles are among the most challenging air targets that the RN must be
able to counter. Upgrades to existing in-service air defence systems, and procurement
of future capability, such as the Future Air Defence System (the Type 83, as announced
in the IR), will specifically seek to address the potential threat that ‘hypersonics’ pose, as
well as harness any opportunities to procure offensive hypersonic weaponry, should it be
advantageous to do so.
Whichever maritime missile system is acquired through the Future Cruise/Anti-Ship
Weapon (FC/ASW) programme, it will be compatible with the Mark 41 (Mk 41) vertical
launch system, specifically given the intent for these weapons to be fitted to the Type 26
Frigate. The RN is exploring opportunities to fit Mk 41 launchers to other classes of ships,
including Type 31, to provide commonality with partner nations, improve interoperability
and simplify the inventory of maritime offensive and defensive capabilities.”
You can read their response in full by clicking here.
By the end of the decade, Britain and France will both field a stealthy subsonic land attack missile and a supersonic, highly manoeuvrable anti-ship missile.
The United Kingdom and France recently confirmed the launch of the preparation works for the Future Cruise/Anti-Ship Weapon (FC/ASW) programme, after the signature of a government agreement and associated contracts by the French Direction générale de l’armement (DGA) and the British Defence Equipment & Support (DE&S).
The ‘Future Cruise/Anti–Ship Weapon’ project was originally believed to be producing one missile able to strike ships and land targets but has now become two distinct missiles.
🚨 NEWS | Confirmation that the FC/ASW missile plan is now for two distinct missiles. A stealthy subsonic land attack missile and a supersonic, highly manoeuvrable anti-ship missile. Britain and France expected to field the missiles "at the end of the decade" say @byMBDA. pic.twitter.com/hFn3KGwZ4f
— George Allison (@geoallison) February 21, 2022
Eric Beranger, CEO of MBDA said:
“The FC/ASW programme is an example of the value of the ‘One MBDA’ integrated model. By combining technology, industrial capacity and funding across borders, we can deliver unique and advanced sovereign capabilities. Following the conclusion of the FC/ASW Concept Phase, the confirmation of the launch of these preparation works testifies the renewed confidence of our two countries towards MBDA.
The project will take advantage from our sustained French/UK Centres of Excellence. This reinforcement of MBDA’s portfolio of deep strike and anti-ship systems will allow MBDA to offer to our armed forces, whose satisfaction is our priority, a cutting-edge solution fitted to their requirements and adapted to all existing or future operational needs.”
Le Délégué général pour l’armement Joël Barre, le directeur 🇬🇧 @DefenceES & le PDG @byMBDA, ont lancé les travaux de préparation du futur missile antinavire et futur missile de croisière (FMAN-FMC) après signature d’un accord étatique et notification de contrats #NotreDéfense pic.twitter.com/Xbs1j6OO3u
— Direction générale de l'armement 🇫🇷 (@DGA) February 17, 2022
According to a statement from MBDA:
“These preparation works will focus on the co-ordinated development of a programme of next generation deep strike and heavy anti-ship weapons. It will assess two complementary missile concepts, expected to be fielded at the end of the decade: a subsonic low observable concept and a supersonic, highly manoeuvrable concept.
These concepts are to meet the requirements of France and the UK and will provide a game changing capability to overcome land-based and maritime threats, hardened targets and air defence systems, at very long ranges and in increasingly contested battlespace environments.”
What is the Future Cruise/Anti–Ship Weapon for?
The FC/ASW aims to replace Storm Shadow/SCALP air-launched cruise missile in operational service in the UK and France as well as Exocet anti-ship missile in France and Harpoon anti-ship missile in the UK.
In November the First Sea Lord, Admiral Tony Radakin, told the House of Commons Select Defence Committee that options for FC/ASW were still “being looked at” including potential hypersonic weapons.
“The path that we as a Navy want to go down is absolutely that—longer-range missiles from ships with land attack. To Mr Francois’s point earlier about whether that is in the programme, it is in the programme with money that has been allocated for the future cruise anti-ship weapon, but we are only on the cusp of an assessment phase with the French. We have not delineated that it is going to be weapon X, but we have the budget line that supports that approach.
The exciting thing for the Navy is that the more substantial money is in the longer-term line, with the ambition around the future cruise anti-ship weapon and the French partnership. That has got the money in the line, but I agree with you that if we are operating at the hypersonic level, there is a debate as to whether that is at the back end of this decade or the early 2030s.”
It was also stated recently by Minister for Defence Procurement Jeremy Quin that the total spend to date on Future Cruise/Anti-Ship Weapon and associated activities by the Ministry of Defence is £95 million.
So, the end of this decade at best with the potential for two wars looming before then?
I think myself like many on this board have misunderstood the MODs defence policy ….’no war within next 10 years’ when in fact its actually ‘no war within next 20 years’…….once that’s understood it all makes perfect sense!
LOL!
If anything will stop the threat of war it’s not adequately equipping your military and hoping everyone will wait for you.
Someone is reading my posts!
25 FEBRUARY 2022
China deploys aircraft in Taiwan’s ADIZ but no increase in activity following start of Ukraine conflict
According to the MND, nine Chinese People‘s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) aircraft entered its ADIZ on 24 February although one day earlier the number was two. The MND said these PLAAF aircraft comprised 10 Shenyang J-16 fighter aircraft and one Shaanxi Y-8 surveillance aircraft.
Hopefully a canister launched variant can be procured for use on T45
Bae systems already have the adaptive deck launcher for a possible bolt on solution, if I remember right it was competing to arm the US San Antonio class
BAE systems Adaptive Deck Launcher.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29335/this-bolt-on-launcher-can-give-nearly-any-ship-the-same-weaponry-as-u-s-navy-destroyer
These ADLs can go onto the T45 and maybe if split in 1/2 also on the T23s. I hope they look at it as a potential option. Plenty of room…i think.
I hope so!
Literally just announced T45 to get Mk41 vls on this site about 2 hours ago so no need for a bolt on 🙂
Yes, only if T45 get the 24 CAMM and however many mk41
Maybe the CAMM can go between the bridge and Asters and still have the MK41s between Asters and forward gun?
Or, as said before, CAMM side silos.
So let me get this right we can’t have a means to strike enemy ships till the end of this decade (and that’s optimistic I fear) because the French might get upset. What planet are we living on because I’m beginning to have doubts it’s anything but Planet Zog. Mind you I guess if we buy a French option their apparent upset will miraculously fade. And they wonder why Putin dismisses us as a serious threat.
I think its a bit oversimplified.
Buying some Harpoon/NSM/Exocet, I dont think it can damage anything.
They probably refer to the french reaction against Germany for the FCAS and MPA, but its a totally different situation.
Its easier to switch weapons than fighters and big plane…
So, the problem is not to buying a weapon, its to abandon the program because of this weapon…
So whilst all the rest have been able to launch ship and land strike missiles from ship based VLS systems, the U.K. won’t be able to do so for at least another 10 years.
So whilst all the rest have been able to launch land strike missiles from ship based VLS systems, the U.K. won’t be able to do so for at least another 10 years.
You have to question, where is that 10 Of R&D years absorbed?
What would speed up the process?
What would speed the process? Go hypersonic with the French, it’s what they want anyway, and go with the Norwegians or Israelis now for anti-ship. The Israelis delivered Blue Spear for Singapore in 1 year. NSM is a proven product in NATO. Both missiles will be proven and even updated before FC/ASW gets its first outing.
The issue is getting agreement within the MoD to decide on buying anything for this decade.
Need the interim Harpoon replacement to be reinstated!
Could they be submarine-launched? The LACM could replace Tomohawk possibly and then the anti-ship one could give our subs a AShM capability? Most other countries field ASHM’s on their subs, so I don’t see why we should be different. (And if there feeling naughty, maybe make a land-based variant for the army)
I have high hopes for this because France currently has SCALP missiles on its submarines.
How many more countries will Putin has assimilated by the end of the decade?
So what’s the plan for hypersonic missiles? Mk41 vls is not large enough for a hypersonic strike weapon. The only vls system with the capacity to luanch credible hypersonic weapon is on the dreadnoughts but they won’t carry conventional weapons.
End of the decade? Given the current scenario, NATO will be at war long before then……
Yes, we’re behind the eight ball already. Catchup time.
Japan has announced its putting aside $3m for airdrop tests of the prototype JNAAM in the next financial year. Once the airdrop tests have been concluded the UK and Japan will decide whether to proceed to order.
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/japan-approves-jnaam-co-development