The fifth of nine P-8A Poseidon Maritime Patrol Aircraft is arriving in Scotland from the United States.

Nine Poseidon MRA1 aircraft have been ordered, the first of which landed on British soil for the first time in February 2020.

According to the Royal Air Force, Poseidon’s role is “hunting potentially hostile submarines and helping to defend our nuclear deterrent”.

In August, a Royal Air Force P-8 Poseidon Maritime Patrol Aircraft completed its first operational mission shadowing a Russian warship in the North Sea near to UK waters.

What is the P-8 Poseidon?

The P-8 Poseidon, developed by Boeing, is designed to conduct anti-submarine warfare (ASW), anti-surface warfare (ASUW), and shipping interdiction, along with an electronic signals intelligence (ELINT) role. This involves carrying torpedoes, anti-ship missiles and other weapons.

The history of the aircraft dates back to June 2004, when the US Navy announced the selection of the Boeing multimission maritime aircraft, 737 MMA, and awarded a contract to Boeing for the system development and demonstration phase of the programme for the US Navy’s next-generation maritime surveillance aircraft. The aircraft was given the designation P-8A in March 2005.

The first British P-8.

Poseidon contains up to 7 crew computer consoles in its cabin, has an electro-optical and infrared sensor turret, a maritime surveillance radar and signal intelligence system. Its radar is capable of detection, classification and identification of ships, small vessels and surfaced submarines.

It also has coastal surveillance capability meaning that the Poseidon can be used for search and rescue operations.

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Airborne
Airborne
4 months ago

Like I’ve said before, not enough airframes but for a change you have to be impressed with the delivery rate.

Paul42
Paul42
4 months ago
Reply to  Airborne

Agreed, more airframes needed, perhaps another 5 to replace Sentinnels? Delivery rate is impressive, aircraft number 6 must be about to roll off the production line if it hasn’t already.

ETH
ETH
4 months ago
Reply to  Paul42

No money to replace Sentinel, that’s the whole point.

Paul42
Paul42
4 months ago
Reply to  ETH

Its more a case of what do you replace it with? Sentinnel is growing old and we need to look at a replacement airframe, or look at spending a lot on trying to update the existing one. Ideally a new, more modern aircraft woukd be better and additional P8s makes more sense as the airframes carrying the pod required could also perform a dual role.

Andy P
Andy P
4 months ago
Reply to  Airborne

Yeah this seems to going according to plan, as you say, a few more would be nice though. What with the whole ‘island nation’ thing.

Graham
Graham
3 months ago
Reply to  Airborne

Boeing probably doesn’t have a lot of orders for commercial aircraft at the moment so they have plenty of spare capacity for military aircraft.

Jacko
Jacko
4 months ago

I think I read somewhere that the delivery rate was good because we were using second hand airframes.

Ambivalent Lurker
Ambivalent Lurker
4 months ago
Reply to  Jacko

AFAIK Boeing is supplying the full RAF Poseidon fleet from new build 737NG’s. The first two RAF Wedgtails are being built from low hours 737’s but as thats such a major cut and shut to add the upper fuselage element for the radar as well as all of the mission systems, its pretty much a full rebuild that results in a new aircraft anyway: https://thinpinstripedline.blogspot.com/2021/01/the-truth-about-wedgetail-no-it-isnt.html

Challenger
Challenger
4 months ago
Reply to  Jacko

It’s good to see an unusually quick delivery rate! I imagine it’s down to Boeing having a hot production line that’s produced a lot of them and it being based on a tried & tested airframe.

julian1
julian1
4 months ago
Reply to  Challenger

…..most importantly the US Navy giving us slots in their run. The way the procurement worked was that the USN made the order in bulk of which 9 were going to the RAF. In that way the RAF effectively got accelerated delivery since it was part of a large and existing USN order. I’m sure someone else will have a more precise explanation but broadly that’s how it worked.

JohnN
JohnN
4 months ago
Reply to  julian1

I think you are referring to this:

http://www.thedefensepost.com/2019/01/26/boeing-contract-19-p-8a-poseidon-us-navy-norway-uk/amp/

In early 2019 the US placed an order for 19 aircraft, 10 for the USN, 4 for the UK and 5 for Norway.

It’s not unusual for foreign orders to be added to a US order to create a larger production Lot.

It’s exactly the same with F-35 production lots, the total is made up of US orders, USAF, USN, USMC, partner nations and FMS customers.

Cheers,

Challenger
Challenger
4 months ago
Reply to  julian1

Guess they either had the choice between pushing some of their own orders to the right to get ours delivered more quickly or stump up their own assets as part of NATO to fill the maritime patrol and surveillance gap in our backyard!

julian1
julian1
4 months ago
Reply to  Challenger

should bring down the cost for everybody and provide continuation of production run for Boeing. everyone wins I think.

Pacman27
Pacman27
4 months ago

Seems to me a really successful procurement decision and VFM for what is a really good capability.

Jacko
Jacko
4 months ago

My bad it seems the second hand airframes are for Wedgetail!

Steve R
Steve R
4 months ago

Fantastic! For once a nice, speedy procurement. How about another 3 additional airframes? 12 total sounds good.

Same for E7 Wedgetail, 12 total would be great.

JohnN
JohnN
4 months ago

You’d have to assume the UK will complete it’s order of nine aircraft by end of this year with only four left to be delivered. I understand the first of five for Norway has just entered production, which leaves four for the Kiwis, six for South Korea, another three for India due this year (total 12), the RAAF just ordered another two to bring their fleet to 14, the USN received its 100th mid last year, last I read 117 had been authorised, unless more are ordered, they must be getting close to the end. If the UK Government wants… Read more »

Ian
Ian
4 months ago

While these are still available from Boeing would it make sense to replace The Sentinels and Sentries with a modern and reliable airframe

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
4 months ago

Excellent. Wish they’d get a decent Torpedo installed though.

John Hartley
John Hartley
4 months ago

& SLAM-ER + LRASM.

Paul.P
Paul.P
4 months ago

Good news, gradually eliminating the ‘capability gap’ in some style. Was C295 ever seriously in the running?