Mosquito drone project swatted

I’m glad to see you no-longer fruitlessly claim not to be a propagandist, that’s a start.

Ukraine are losing TB-2 drones, but that’s their purpose, to go where you’d be certain to lose manned aircraft and wreak havoc. They certainly still seem to be doing that with the Russian navy 😆
And the Ukrainian videos of their innovative use of drones is impressive. I particularly liked the use of a COTS drone to drop an ancient Soviet grenade, with 3D printed fins added, through the sun roof of a car stolen by Russian soldiers.

And I’m looking forward to them using drones as spotters for HIMARS now that it has been deployed to the Donbas. More Russian conscripts for Putin’s mobile crematoriums.

One wonders how much longer the murderous Russians can keep it up Sean, having become international pariahs and proving the once feared Russian Armed forces is little more than a bunch of rapist, murderous scumbags, poorly trained and using obsolete kit.

To think NATO feared them is a bit of a joke now, had they attacked Poland, what was left of them, would be thrown back, limping home to Russia by day 2 with their tanks in flames

I see the resident Russian Morse tapper still hasn’t denounced little big man Putin?

Go on JohninMk, make a run for the Finnish boarder and denounce Putin!

By the end of this year Russia will start breaking apart. Many republics are already desperate to leave.

It’s possible, there’s a desperation in Russia to get the war finished and take control of the whole of Eastern Ukraine.

As we all know, they have a closing window of opportunity to do this, supplies (in everything) are running low, the summer in this part of the world is hot, but short, come September, the temperature will rapidly slide and mud and rain will turn to snow in quick order by October….

The Russians will once again get mired down and confined to roads, the Ukrainians will absolutely mallet them in depth with their new artillery and other equipment provided.

I hope the Federation dosen’t implode, it could lead to civil war and could be extremely dangerous for us all.

I would actually rather have a military coup, with Putin and his head shed quickly shot.

We can guarantee that back channels are open between the West and senior (and more sensible) members of the Russian Armed forces, who would probably jump at the chance of extracting themselves from this appalling mess.

All ordered by an angry little man with a tiny penis……

Maybe you could provide some evidence of Russian supplies running low?

The Russians seemed to cope OK with the Spring, in the Autumn it will affect both sides. There is not enough incoming artillery to affect results significantly.

NATO or the EU is more likely to break up under the strains of the oncoming energy crisis.

What on earth makes you think that the Russian military are not happy or, if he were replaced, Putin would be replaced by someone friendlier to us?

Give us some links or facts behind your claims.

Any condemnation of Putins illegal invasion of Ukraine yet? None? Thought not Russkie saddo!

Ah, you’re true colours have eventually shown today. Took you a while this time.

Really? Name one with some evidence.

You mean Scotltish independence surely

Did you think that one up all in your own? Wow, high quality post yet again!

You must have bugged the Kremlin to get that info , Does MI6 know

Well the military’s of the so-called peoples republics have suffered over 50% casualties, and despite shipping in mercenaries from abroad the Russians have now started deploying conscripts to the front-line – after saying they wouldn’t.

Meanwhile they’re mobilising 60’s era tanks and using up large amounts of the old Soviet munitions stockpile. While Ukraine is using munitions at proportionately the same rate, NATO is resupplying them (though could do much better). Unless China decides to resupply them, given long-enough the Russians will be reduced to bows and arrows.

The Russian economy is in a terminal decline. Yes they’ve implanted measures to try and reduce the impact of sanctions, but it’s not enough. Russia can’t ship its oil to other customers because sanctions prevent insurance of the ships and cargo.
The Airbus and Boeing jets used domestically in Russian are increasingly being withdrawn from service due to lack of parts – first major issue across the fleet will be tyres. But the onboard computer systems expect certain parts to be replaced after certain flying hours, and will not permit take-off otherwise.
Access to western technology is now impossible.

A country like the USA might be able to survive under similar circumstances because it produces so many items domestically. Not so Russia, where the entire economy is dependent on exploiting and exporting its natural resources.

Putin has launched a war he cannot win if the West holds its nerve let alone the 72 hour target for victory in the original plan. The West cannot afford to let him win and he can’t compete with the West economically.
It’s possible he may gamble by attacking the Baltic States to break Article V and NATO; vainly hoping it’s member states won’t risk going to war to defend them. He’d be wrong about that too.

The question is whether there will be an assassination, full-on coup, or a collapse of the Russia Federation into its constituent states – possibly with the prospect of war breaking out between them.

As for JohnInMockva, I doubt it’s a case of trying to escape across the border to Finland. The first prison John needs to be break free of is the one in his mind that’s been constructed by Putin’s propaganda.

Here here

surely: hear hear?

Where where?

Russia is self sufficient in everything that is necessary to sustain a functioning society,food,energy,natural tesouces,manufacturing capacity particularly militaru production and technology etc. Britain is self sufficient in NOTHING except paper finance being merely an American colony since 1944-1947 as an american president siaid to our Prime Minister”When i call you.You gat here now with the shirt tail flapping out of your pants.NOW!”hmmmm.Bet you dont know which president and which prime minister.Go on demonstrate your knowledge by answeing such a simple question.Thye evil Empire —America.

Seems we’ve attracted another deranged Putin propagandist 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

Spouting those hilarious untruths may work on Planet Putin but here we all know that you’re talking utter b@llocks 🤣

The fact is Russia completely lacks the most essential things for a functioning society; the rule of law, freedom of speech, and separation of powers. Without those a society is dysfunctional and doomed to an inevitable collapse.

A Moore’s first sentence pretty much told it how it is. Not sure about the rest.

If you think that part is lies you need to check out your beliefs.

As to Russian society it seems to be operating pretty well under the current circumstances. Had a look at US society recently?

Oh dear here we go again, you quickly answer and support A Moore! Funny that! Anyway any condemnation of Putins illegal invasion of Ukraine yet?

Nope wrong again.

Well the USA is a bit of a mess at the moment, but then democracy is by its nature messy. Do I really have to quote Churchill on the subject of democracy as a political system?
(Of course Russian meddling hasn’t helped.)

But correct me if I’m wrong here…

when was the last time POTUS have a political opponent poisoned with Polonium or Novichok?
When did POTUS last imprison political opponents and ban political parties, or take over or shut down independent news services and tv stations.
When did POTUS cut off citizens access to social media and foreign news sites?
When was POTUS deeply involved-with organised crime gangs, and when did he steal billions from his nation for personal enrichment?

Because Putin has done all of the above.

You see the USA will always be a better place to live than Nazi Russia simply because it is a democracy. It allows free speech, open elections, and a separation of powers. TBH it’s not just the USA, it’s ANY democracy is going to be a better place to live, and consequently function better, compared to an authoritarian dictatorship.

Everyone on this site apart from you and your lackeys know this… in fact, though, you’d never admit it, I’m pretty sure deep down you know this too.

So called democracy is simply the three card trick,same face different masks.Potus banned RT television.Potus banned the NSDP.POTUS hounds Julian Assange.POTUS allied itself to Stroessner.Potus builds conentration camps.POTUS accepts bribes .POTUS carried out Extraordinary Rendition.President lily white has never existed.George Washington was a “freedom loving”slave trader: if you can work that one out,good luck!

So you’re a democracy-hating self-confessed fascist, well I’m not surprised given your support for Putin. Oh are you a fully fledged Nazi given your complain about POTUS banning the American Nazi Party (NSDO)?
I guess 80 years ago you’d have been one of those handful of traitors fighting for Hitler, or given your love of propaganda, doing broadcast with Lord Haw Haw.

It’s hilarious that you have to reach back to George Washington (judging him by todays standards not those of his day) or 1954 for Stroessner, to try and find comparisons with what Putin is doing in contemporary times.

Proof that Biden is building concentration camps and taking bribes? Yeah, none.

Assange is responsible for countless deaths because he failed to redact the names of locals who assisted the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan before publication.
He also collaborated with the FSB to leak documents and emails to undermine Clinton’s election campaign.
Potus isn’t hounding him, the Justice Dept is pursuing his prosecution. But then you can’t comprehend democracy and the principle of separation of powers.

Actually you don’t understand the concept of “truth” either.

You have killed over 1 million in Iraq the largest genocide of our time in an illegal war that majority of the planet democracies refused to support including our neighbors in Europe. Your morals stand not on one leg. By the way Russia refused to back that illegal war along illegal destruction of Libya which now has turned into a failed state . NATO was condemned by Nelson Mandela for this illegal wars . Putin in his own words warned if you illegally invade sovereign countries and break intl laws don’t cry about future conflicts , it literally gave him a green light to what Is happening in Ukraine today thanks Blair and Bush

(a) Wrong, I’m pretty sure I would have remembered if I’d killed a million people in Iraq.
(b) Iraq was NOT a NATO operation, idiot.
(c) Personally I’d like to see Blair, Campbell, etc all on trial for faking intelligence on WMD in order to get us to join in the Iraq War.
(d) Two wrongs don’t make a right. It’s the politics of the playground to say that because the U.K. and USA invaded Iraq (a dictatorship) that Russia is allowed to invade Ukraine (a democracy).
(e) Unlike you war-crime apologists, I don’t believe in the mantra “my country, right or wrong”. I don’t support evil actions simply because it’s done in my country’s name.
(f) If you want to pretend to be British you need to improve your appalling English grammar.
(g) You’re an idiot.

So you you do admit Iraq was an illegal war with false intelligence used? Boris supported that war so did much of the current Tories in power which you back now on this Ukraine proxy war that started in 2014. You bad mouthing people won’t hide the truth 😂

Most of us supported the war at the time because we were lied to by the Blair government. That is why I believe Blair should be on trial.

Fortunately it is far easier to see through Putin’s ridiculous lies about Nazi’s in Ukraine. Unless of course you’re brainwashed by the propaganda of Russian tv and media.

Your still an idiot, with bad grammar, and even worse logic and debating skills.

We have a trio of clowns who firstly (two of them at least) have very bad English, and secondly all sing off the same song sheet and answer each other’s posted responses. James and A Moore are however expendable straw men to deflect our time and attention from Johnskies slight better efforts at propaganda and trolling. Sad mate isn’t it!

Well JohnInMoscow can’t be expected to work 24×7 posting his propaganda, so they have Jameskova and A Mutt as his backup/relief.

Janeskova’s English grammar is particularly poor, they must be desperate employing him. Every Russian I know has way better English than him – but then they all despise Putin. Which goes to show that supporting Putin and being stupid obviously go together 🤷🏻‍♂️

😂😂😂👍 Agreed!

Why are you and A Moore pretty much answering posts not directed at you together? Oh dear, how sad, never mind troll time!

Ah, a third Russian drone and the second with terrible English. At least JohnInMK is eloquent (if demented).

Thanks for the compliment, its appreciated, even if it came with a sting in the tail.

Used to deflect attention and try to prevent challenging Johnskies propaganda! James and A Moore are both straw men, expendable to make us waste our time handing them there arses while JohninMK prattles on.

Do you love Putin? Does he get you hot, sweaty and a bit excited with a tremble? It seems like that as you hero worship him in your sad comments! So would you also like to condemn Putins illegal invasion of Ukraine and see the Russian Nazi forces withdraw back to their pre-2014 start lines?

You waffle some Nazi shite troll boy!

Sean have a look at Johnskies reply to your reply to A Moore with you calling Moore a Putin propagandist! JohninMK has replied saying he isn’t! He has fucked op, replying as JohninMK and not A Moore! Another fuckup by the sad troll mate!

Yeah he’s a lone sad little Putin-loving fascist, pretending he has friends and support by posting under multiple identities. He strikes a pathetic figure.

You are coward and call anyone that supports not wars Putin loving. The vast majority of the planet is not supporting NATO stance , so are you saying they are in the pockets of Putin now? South America , Africa ,much of Asia back not this proxy war in Ukraine of NATO . Cost of living is going through the roof and the recent by elections are warning by the British tax payers that Boris can’t spend British money the way he likes in such tough economic times . The support is waning for this proxy war . It’s time for peace talks as the UN called for it

Pretty sure the vote an the United Nations General Assembly proves that you are wrong. Pretty much every country apart from fruit cakes like North Korea voted to condemn Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. But you don’t seem interested in facts, or English grammar either 😂

The cost of living is going through the roof because of Putin’s genocide in Ukraine and there’s a very simple way to achieve peace, he withdraws from Ukraine.

If you knew anything of British history, or which you’re blatantly ignorant you’d know that government’s always lose mid-term bye-elections. The swings against Boris’ party weren’t even the largest by historical standards. Meanwhile we have the fastest growth of the G7 and low unemployment – which is far from what your beloved Russia is experiencing.

The UN assembly called for an end to this war but backed not arms to be sent to Ukraine to prolong this proxy war. Even some of the Europeans like Germany and France had enough of Boris and established talks with Putin . I think you are the only one that thinks the UK has the world fastest growing economy 🤣😂
The cost of living rise started way before the Ukraine war 🙈 This is what history illiteracy does to people! Stop reading The Express and Daily Mail and grow up

Wrong again, idiot. The United Nations condemned Russia for its invasion and called for its withdrawal.

Yes there are some appeasers in some countries who think there should be talks with Putin. We also had them in 1939 wanting us to hold peace talks with Putin’s role-model, Adolf Hitler. They are a minority and they are not being listened too.
But you know, in democracies we’re allowed free-speech so people are allowed to say these things.
Whereas in fascist states like Russia free-speech isn’t even allowed.
In fact, Putin would put you in jail for daring to even call this a “war” instead of a “special military operation” 😂

I don’t read the Express or Daily Mail, and quoting them doesn’t make you sound any more British. Your grammar is still hilariously bad 🤣

Sláva Ukrayíni!

Precisely!

You got it wrong on your first lines yet again oh dear oh dear oh dear!

James
1 year ago
Alex is right the Royal Navy is not well armed offensive wise and has been noted many times and enemies are aware of it! The destroyers must be better armed and the early warning capabilities must be improved .

I’m sure the F35 anti ship capabilities will improve soon . But yeah the F35 will take out any Rafael before they even see the F35 coming“

So pal any excuse for this change of avatar to support yourself when you were Alex?

“It’s time for peace talks as the UN called for it”

So l would like to test your peace talks logic, by walking into your house and demand you hand it over to me. Would you suggest a compromise?
Maybe I take can take the front room, you keep the kitchen?

“Not supporting NATO stance” very bad English, very much a style use by someone not fully understanding the grammar to be used! And, would you like to take this opportunity to condemn Putins illegal invasion of Ukraine and see the Russian military return immediately back to its pre 2014 start lines and border?

James
1 year ago
Alex is right the Royal Navy is not well armed offensive wise and has been noted many times and enemies are aware of it! The destroyers must be better armed and the early warning capabilities must be improved .

I’m sure the F35 anti ship capabilities will improve soon . But yeah the F35 will take out any Rafael before they even see the F35 coming

You were Alex at the time and changed your avatar to James to that very response, so please explain this troll behaviour.

Oh and James we are still intrigued why you posted a response to a chap called Alex, supporting his sad opinion, when it turns out you were Alex, but changed to James to post that support? Can you answer that please we are all intrigued.

Demonstrate you knowledge by naming the president and prime minister i quoted

That you post that demonstrates his little understanding you have of intelligence, knowledge, learnings, etc. Being able to attribute a fictitious quote proves nothing, except your desperation.

You mean Russia doesnt have a WRITTEN constitution?Russia does not Have an elected Parliament?The Russian Parliament does not pass law?The President on Russia and members of Parliament are not elected?How gullible are you.On a scale of ten i would score you as infinity.

Oh it has a written constitution, a President and a Parliament.
Alas without free and fair elections all of these are meaningless, and as we know, Putin rigs all of these to his as advantage.

Your maths are as equally retarded as your politics.

Amoron

You are speaking of yourself again, and again as gullible, as usual!

Ah A Moore, a new poster, with repeated anti west and anti NATO posts, who’s quickly answered and supported by Johnskie! FFS you must think we are all as stupid peasants like your average Russian! You must make more of an effort with your trolling, just 1 out of 10 today, must do better!

I thought A Moore was a UK non-com officer? Maybe I was deceived by him all along?

Anyone critical of clown 🤡 Boris is not anti Britain ! You want to silence the British public who don’t support this proxy Ukraine war ! The recent by election should be a warning to the likes of Boris and you. We live in a democracy. We all know when the likes of you sent British soldiers with poor equipment to Iraq and the disaster that took place there. People like you tried to silence the public calling them terrorist sympathisers! And today history has judged you and you can’t talk about Iraq without looking like Blair 😂

Calm your pants pal, two answers? Why are you replying to my response to A Moore? More avatar troll mistakes I take it? One troll making an error with their large number of avatars and accounts? And I see you don’t understand my avatar or my career history? “The likes of me sent British soldiers to Iraq with poor equipment” oh dear oh dear, you don’t seem to understand what you are going on about, and you are getting angry, frothing and shouting! Calm your pants angry child and take a deep breath!

Ah so the west is bad? Do you think the invasion of Ukraine by Putin is bad, do you support it? Or do you condemn this illegal invasion of Ukraine by Putin?

What country do you hail from as it certainly isn’t the UK bot boy!

You are nothing more than a coward bully ! Far from patriot ! You are itching for a war with Russia! You wanna fight them? Go yourself and fight them I’m sure Boris will do everything he can to get you back safely. Nobody in Britain backs a nuclear war with Russia over Ukraine one of the world most corrupt countries. Much of the arms sent there have been sold in the black market already which may hunt us in the future as it could end up in terrorist hands. I want this war to end asap for sake of the Ukrainian civilians! Peace talks must prevail

Let see you compromise you own
home then! Want to split it then?

Still no answer in your ranting reply, do you condemn Putins illegal invasion of Ukraine and want to see a complete Russian withdrawal? Try to answer minus the froth around the lips! And the other question remains, what country are you from? Two simple questions which require two simple answers.

Really? All those things Russia has are useless if u can’t produce any complex goods.
try looking at the Russian business meet at a high level last week, one billionaire when asked about trade now said “yes we are fine without the west, we can’t make anything, buy anything, sell anything, we cave no customers, no imports no exports, ie no problems!

Back to Mordor, Orc!

You’ve described perfectly the relationship between Putin and Lukashenko. Plus the future relationship between Russia and China.

No, Russia was Not self sufficient in grain in the Cold War, it had to import grain from the USA!
Also a lot of U.S chips been found in Russian military equipment, so who say Russia is self sufficient in technology then??

Where do your figures come from on casualties?

No conscrips on the front line, the officer responsible last time was arrested. The T-62s are being used by DNR and LDR militias, technology they are used to, not the Russian Army.

Both sides are using up stockpiles of WP 122/152mm munitions. But Ukraine is the one saying they are low on stocks now firing perhaps 1:5 max compared to the Russians, who don’t seem to have any supply or logistics issues. Supply from NATO is a huge problem and the correct ammo havs to be in the right place for the guns it firs, a problem in peacetime let alone with supply lines and documentation systems under attack.

You seem to have a strange view of Russia’s economy. For a start their oil/gas revenue is higher than 6 months ago. Quite how that fits your claim I don’t know. India for example has increased its Russian oil take hugely. Most of the World is ignoring sanctions. As to civil aircraft, no bad issues yet, it seems that where there is cash there is a way, especially with China protecting their back.

The Russian economy, following 8 years of sanctions is pretty much either self sufficient or able to work with its friends, albeit there will be an impact. Probably better off than the US from that perspective.

Please give a link to when the Russians claimed 72 hours? I agree that the US, otherwise known as the West, can’t let him win. So what is going to happen if the current Russian progress is maintained? Lithuania poking Russia’s supply line to Kaliningrad seems to have been a damp squib, no Art V there.

I am content in my mind thank you. I think you are going to have bigger problems than me if events in Ukraine continue along the current path.

Yaaaaawn more shite! Any condemnation of Putins illegal invasion of Ukraine yet?

The casualty figures come from British Intelligence. You know the same people that were saying since November that Russian is going to invade Ukraine, whereas you were in denial even as the tanks were rolling across the border.

There aren’t any “militias”. At best those fighting for DNR and LDR are mercenaries, and at worst terrorist organisations like ISIS when it proclaimed itself to be a ‘state’ too.

So the Russian Army is giving these mercs/terrorists obsolete equipment because they don’t have any decent stuff left to give them? Well that’s effectively the same thing.

The Russians are making more income from oil and gas sales simply because their prices have shot up. (Boy is Russia completely f@cked when the world goes green or are you a climate-change denier too?).
As for the rest of the Russian economy, it was a joke before the latest sanctions and its crashing now. Maybe if you stepped outside of the Lubyanka you’d see it.
Fortunately I have friends living there who are not brainwashed and know how to set up VPNs to get around Putin’s censorship. Their reports certainly don’t match your deranged imaginings.

Airliners are already being cannibalised to keep others flying. Russia plans to build a spare parts factory in Kazan but its not going to produce anything for over 18 months. Meanwhile fitting counterfeit parts won’t work for the fly by wire aircraft whose computers interrogate and authenticate electronics that are fitted. Heck they even know when the tyres need replacing and whether they’ve been replaced with like for like.
So we’ve established you’re b@llshitting about you’re knowledge of the aviation industry too.

Oh we know about Putin’s timetable for seizing the Presidents Office, the Ukrainian Parliament, and the entire government district within 72 hours because that’s what the written orders found on dead Russian officers said. Presumably getting complete wiped out wasn’t part of Putin’s plans 😂

Lithuanian is simply applying the same sanctions as the rest of the EU. If the Russians tried to transport the same goods to Kaliningrad via Poland they’d have the same issues. But habitual liar that you are, you have to try and distort this situation too.

(Personally I’d completely close all borders to Kaliningrad and let the Russians try and transport everything by sea.)

Oh you’re content in your mind because you’ve swallowed Putin’s cool aid. I’m fine with the situation, every metre that Russia takes is a cut, and Russia will ultimately bleed out. Every metre the Russians are paying a huge and bloody price and ultimately they won’t be able to roll any further forward even if they were no-longer facing resistance.
Then, having mastered Western weapons, and fully equipped by NATO, the Ukrainian’s will tear apart what’s left of Russia’s invasion force.

Personally I don’t think we should wait that long, because Putin will have murdered millions in Africa by blocking Ukrainians food exports. NATO should move into Ukraine and expel or destroy every Russian occupier it finds there.

(No Putin won’t use nukes, because like all bully’s he’s a coward. In fact he’s already admitted that he wouldn’t use them unless enemy forces entered Russia. Which is fine, why would be want to invade that godforsaken place. All we need to do is destroy every military asset it sends over the border.)

Yeah the same intelligence that said Iraq had nukes which it could deploy within 45 minutes, I think people made up their mind of their credibility. It was obvious to anybody Russia was going into eastern Ukraine the moment they recognised the region. You didn’t need intelligence services to figure that one out unless you are a clown like Boris . The conflict was brewing for years

Wrong again, Russian idiot.
The UK’s intelligence service didn’t say there was weapons in Iraq. The Blair government misrepresented their reports to imply there were weapons to justify joining the war. That’s why I think Blair should be on trial.
But I suspect you don’t want Putin on trial for his illegal invasion.

The French intelligence service maintained that Putin wasn’t going to invade, which is why it’s its head was forced to resign. As it was the U.K. was so certain, we started supplying weapons to Ukraine BEFORE the invasion whereas every other nation did not start until after it had begun.

The conflict has been brewing ever since Putin decided to try and rebuild the USSR. Fortunately his invasion of northern Ukraine failed and was pushed back, his invasion of southern Ukraine has stalled and been pushed back from Odesa. Now the main focus is eastern Ukraine, where his forces are paying a huge price in blood and material for every cm they gain.
Putin looks like a idiot for thinking he could take the whole of the country in 72 hours, and the world thinks Russia’s military to be laughably incompetent.

Oh dear more mistakes from angry child! Do some subject matter research prior to posting, helps to stop you looking like a moron. See, I like to help those who struggle, you don’t need to thank me.

Ah, that lot, a part of the British Government that, following Iraq, is not going to put its head above the parapet in any way that might lead it to be accused of undermining the Government in public. I don’t think even the Ukrainian Government has called the DNR/LDR militias mercenaries and, with any of them being ex military maybe the Russians are giving them gear that they were used to when they served.

Any condemnation of Putins illegal invasion of Ukraine yet?

Oh British Intelligence identified Russia’s intent long before anyone else. That’s why we were able to start piling NLAWs into Ukraine even before the Russian invasion started. (You remember NLAW right, ones of the weapons that destroyed your tanks in such huge numbers that you had to abandon the invasion of the whole of Ukraine and instead turn to WW1 style artillery barrages.)

The Ukrainian government doesn’t refer to them period, it doesn’t deign to acknowledge their existence. Neither does any other state on the planet except the loony fringe or Russia’s lapdogs. I said at best they are Russian mercs, I’d treat them all as terrorists and execute on sight.

But I’d be tempted to give you the same treatment, as I loathe war criminals.

“The T-62s are being used by DNR and LDR militias…”
A lie as usual from you again!
T-62’s been seen lately in Kherson, in use by the Russian army!

Correct!

Meanwhile in the real world:

The Russians have destroyed the Ukraine’s stockpiles of 102mm and 152mm shells rendering their Soviet artillery useless, the Ukrainians are now dependent on western rockets and artillery which has been provided in very small numbers and which cannot be resupplied with shells at the appropriate rates. Not only does the West not have the ability to make western 105mm and 155mm shells fast enough for the Ukrainian demand, the supply lines from US factories will be huge and expensive.

The west has said the Russians are running out of ammo since early march and yet they still fire between 60,000 and 75,000 shells a day and despite having no cruise missiles expended over 40 yesterday alone.

Why is this important? – as its an artillery war. The Russians have more artillery and are expending 10 times more shells & rockets than the ukrainians every day. This means the Ukrainian arm is being systematically destroyed in the Donbass. As they take reserves from the Kharkov and Odessa fronts to feed into the Donbass grinder they lose more and more.

The Russians release plenty of videos of Russian units being rotated out of the front for rest. The Ukrainians don’t have that luxury.

The Ukrainian army’s professional soldiers have been attritted to such a level some units have lost 80% of their numbers leaving them dependent on conscripted untrained volksturrm who are mere canon fodder. (This was on Sky news last night – speaking to a Ukrainian commander and a Nurse.)

The Russians capture more of the Donbass daily grinding away 8 years of fortifications, while the Ukrainians to blast away at civilians in Donetsk city centre in blind hatred of all thing Russian.

As for sanctions – well that backfired on us. Russia can sell their Gas and Oil to the rest of the world while we in the west have seen our fuel costs go up, heating costs rise and inflation hit almost double digit 40 year high.

The first prison Sean needs to be break free of is the one in his mind that’s been constructed by Biden’s propaganda.

That you make the “volksturrm” reference shows you believe the ridiculous “Ukrainian Nazi” fairytale.
Which means you’re either naively stupid or another Putin war-crime propagandist; I’d bet the latter.

Ukraine doesn’t need to match Russia shell for shell and artillery-piece for artillery-piece, or come anywhere close to it. The reason is obvious to anyone not blinded by propaganda.
The Ukrainians are simply targeting Russian forces, whereas Russian forces are targeting every single metre of territory they don’t control.
Let the Russians waste shells destroying evacuated housing blocks and shopping malls, all they do is providing targeting information for Ukrainian counter-battery fire.

Yes the Russians are the most effective military at pointless destruction of civilian infrastructure and rendering the cities they claim to be liberating uninhabitable wastelands. Heaven help the poor Ukrainians they’re supposed to be liberating, if the shelling doesn’t kill them the Russian infantry will rape, torture and murder them.

So the war will be over this week then?… The Russians having destroyed all the stockpiles for Ukraine’s old soviet artillery rendering their artillery useless – according to you – and Western supplied artillery insufficient in number – according to you. After-all this is an artillery war – according to you – and the Ukrainians effectively have no artillery to fight with… Any rational person knows this is more likely a Putin wet-dream that you’re posting than actual reality.

Idiot that you are, you fail to realise that infrastructure is needed for conveying the oil and gas Russia sells. The pipelines to China were already at capacity pre-war. And you can’t magic-up new pipelines overnight.
The alternative is tankers, which Russia is also finding that fewer and fewer tankers are available as they are impacted by not being insurable due to sanctions.

That you feel the need to mention Biden just shows what a tool you are 😆

Well said! We are losing this war strategically and economically! It is war led by sleepy Biden what do you expect out of it ? If Trump led it I would have been more at ease . But Kamal Harris? I’m sorry we could be sleep walking into a calamity! We need cool heads and not put ourselves in a disadvantage if challenging Russia . It’s extraordinary how Russia managed to bring the entire west to its knees in economic warfare, this is unthinkable! Russia should have lost that front at least !!!

It is you that’s a prisoner of tRUMPS distorted mind!
An agent of Pootin!

The Russian troops, have been putting their so called Liberated Pro Kremlin freedom fighters of the new republics as their tip of the Russian Spear ill equipped, for combat against the Battle hardened Ukrainians getting wiped out is no problem for Putin it means that with the territory he has stolen can now be filled with Russians as there will be no fighting age republicans left too cause any future problems for Russia .Putins idea of Liebansrum oh sorry that was the Nazi’s idea History repeating itself But in putins eyes Democracy in action Sean

I agree, Putin doesn’t care if the self styled LPR and DPR militias are being annihilated. It’s pretty clear he’s planning old-Soviet style ethnic cleansing of the areas Russia conquers. The deportation of Ukrainian civilians to the Far East of Russia confirms this.
His intent is clearly to resettle conquered Ukrainian territory with loyal Russians after the war is over; being a Russian speaking Ukrainian isn’t going to be good enough to survive under Putin.

Sadly we are witnessing Holodomor #2

With you on that one Sean .And Putin is claiming that he’s De Nazifying all his missing is the moustache im sure that someone else did something like that to the Western portion of Poland its history repeating itself just hope that like that piece of history putin ends up in his very own bunker like his alter ego Adolf Hitler

I have to disagree with you on one point. I don’t want Putin to be able to choose the place and time of his demise, as his hero Hitler did…

I want Putin to be dragged to The Hague, put on trial, convicted, and then to live a long humiliating life behind bars, wearing a prison uniform and eating prison rations. Preferably in solitary, with no visitor rights.
A living warning to would be dictators and war criminals everywhere.

Putin will play the mentally distributed card knowing him and will be confined too One of Russia’s well equipped Asylums and deemed mentally unfit too stand Trial Shame one can’t be committed for being a Liar as well

It’s really getting comical Ali with them of late we get another Deputy come TV expert claiming that London would be their first target if NATO intervenes and that apparently Europe would have all their power generation destroyed within 3 days prior to this, satellites all taken out leaving us sitting ducks it seems. All this done apparently by their glorious airforce, yes the same airforce scared to enter even Ukrainian airspace and exploiting ever more ancient weaponry while calling up retired pilots to replace loses and refusenicks perhaps, while their copters stay mostly out of harms way altogether. Only their computer artists are kept active busy regurgitating and repurposing video game imagery to show just how well their nerve wracked pilots are doing while flying figures of eight over airfields or over Belarus territory. Even they aren’t quite so smart weapons either as this fake footage is revealed for what it is.

So maybe this guy with his laughable threats and others like him are just seriously deluded though I doubt to that extent, No I think while this rhetoric is aimed at scaring the less informed and gullible westerner who doesn’t recognise it’s paper thin authenticity it is really spouted ever more preposterously to simply expand upon a raving looney persona, threatening ludicrously in all directions to deliver a deliberate image of madness to all it reaches so that we really do fear what they might do in desperation in the hope it might seriously cap the support being provided to Ukraine and support from the public and politicians at large. But of course surrendering to such tactics just ensures that eventually the madness will gain a whole new momentum of supposed invincibility on the ground and those in power start believing in their own madness as valid on the battlefield. When you have Lavrov claiming that WW2 was most of Europe allied against Russia you start to see how these idiots can actually believe their own hype and rewrite history to suit.

Re Lavrov. With virtually all of Europe, apart from us and 4 neutral countries, allied against Russia in WW2 I’m not sure how his claim of ‘most’ is an attempt to rewrite history..

Lavrov, another Russian criminal lap dog terrified of doing or saying the wrong thing in front of head Nazi Putin! So, any condemnation of Putins illegal invasion of Ukraine yet?

Was that the Russia that allied with Nazi Germany in 39 and invaded Poland from the East while the Nazis invaded from the West? Do you condemn that Russian invasion of Poland while allied to Nazi Germany?

Rewriting history again I see you war-criminal.
Being occupied by the Nazis does not make a country “allied” to Nazi Germany you dimwit.

Spot on!

Russia showed its true Colours when Stalin troops marched into Eastern Poland in 1939 and executed over 20,000 Polish army officers and intellectuals then deported the remnants of the Polish army to Siberia where they lingered until Russia itself was Invaded ,When asked by the Allies where all the Officers were they blamed the Nazi’s nothing seems too change in the way the Russians operate and blatantly Lie

As you mentioned me here goes.

It is likely the Russians can keep it up longer than us. They may be in the West but in the rest of the World they are definitely not a pariah. Seen the Ruble value now? For an army as you describe it they are performing pretty well in Ukraine, they now control all of Luhansk east of the Donets river

What on earth makes you think that, if it happened, that they wouldn’t hit Poland in exactly the way NATO has expected virtually since WW2 or ‘Shock and Awe’ 21st Century style? There are no Russian speakers or infrastructure there to save and no major defensive lines of bunkers to overcome.

The slow Russian slow strategy is allowing all kinds of gear and munitions to be sucked in from NATO’s stocks, depleting reserves. Take the 200 Polish T-72 OK they are old but they are working tanks; when will they get replacements from the US? 2025? Lots of 155mm ammo moving east, where are the factories now to replace it, yup replaced by shopping centers. You may have missed the discussions taking place recently on exactly that subject, Russia and China maintaining their munitions factories and almost everyone else has taken the ‘peace’ dividend.

The longer this goes on, contrary to your view, NATO will be getting increasingly concerned.

What’s going to stop them hitting Poland the same way??

Well, self evidently, themselves. Over 3 months into their invasion and they’ve made only the most incremental progress in the Eastern region, pyrrhic victories at best, towns reduced to uninhabitable , disease ridden rubble. They have saved zero infrastructure. That’s just in the regions where the majority speak Russian, and yet those citizens have fled Westwards whenever possible as they do not want to live under Russian occupation, and risk widespread summary execution and rape as happened in Irpin, Bucha, Mariupol, Kharkiv etc. Or forced abduction into Russia. I see that still you have no commentary on those facts. Or, more likely,
your FSB handlers don’t permit you. The Russians tried ‘shock and awe’ as you put it, they failed utterly.

With over 30% combat losses to gain what they have so far, with Russian tank turrets spending more time in the air than their air force, and with Russia increasingly relying on outdated equipment, munitions and conscripts, I don’t think NATO will be expecting them at Polands border anytime soon. One toecap across NATO borders and those Russian orcs will get a lesson in combined arms doctrine and western warfare skills. You are deluding yourself if you think that the West cannot manufacture sufficient quantities of weapons because of , er, shopping centres… It’s Russia that can’t acquire vital components for its manufacturing , not the west.

You mentioned Russian society earlier, any word on the thousands of anti war protesters that were summarily jailed in February? Or the hundreds of dissidents jailed in internment camps, or the families of murdered investigative journalists and democracy campaigners, the human rights activists?
Russian ‘society ‘ is a lie, a few billionaire gangster oligarchs, and a dumb, deluded and ignorant citizenry.

After WW2 NATO was facing the combined mass of the Warsaw Pact rolling across Europe. These days the vast majority of those formerly communist Warsaw Pact members are now the staunchest members of NATO.
At best Russia can now hope on Belarus joining in, maybe.

You keep talking about Russian-speakers. Does Putin plan to invade every town and city in the world that has Russian-speakers? That possibly makes London his next target after the Ukraine.
As for Russian-speaking Ukrainians, every single one of them that I know don’t wish to be ‘liberated’ by your rapists and murderers.

So it was Putin’s plan all along to have his forces slaughtered in the early days of the war, suffer humiliating defeats and retreats in the North and South, and then regroup in a slow grinding war in the east in order to use up NATO stockpiles? Military genius that Putin! 😂
The slower the Russians crawl forward the better, it gives Western weapons manufacturers all the more time to ramp up production of and speed up development of upgrades and enhancements.
Not only has Putin increased the numbers of NATO members but he’s managed to reinvigorate our defence sector. 😂

I think what got people worried, is Putin using the Czar Peter the Great, as a reason for returning land to Russia. When you look at this part of history. You will see that Finland, the Baltics (Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia) along with Eastern Poland were all invaded. This was part of his scheme to get a port into Europe that didn’t freeze over in the Winter.

So we now have Belarus exercising its troops along the Ukrainian border, as well as the border near to the Sulwaki gap. A lot of this is to draw off Ukrainian troops away from the conflict in the East and South. But it has also worried NATO and particularly the Baltic states. Especially after Lithuania blockaded the train line to Kaliningrad. With Putin giving them close to an ultimatum.

Lithuania hasn’t blockaded the train line to Kaliningrad. They simply enforcing EU sanctions on all shipments through their territory.
If Russia tried to send the same shipments into Kaliningrad via Poland (via Belarus) they’d run into the same sanctions.

Putin was a child of the USSR, and his ego sees him reestablishing it’s hegemony over it’s former lands as his legacy and place in history. Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova are first in line. For the Baltic States he needs to split NATO so that Article V becomes ineffectual. He was perhaps hoping that would be a side-effect of the Ukraine War.
NATO knows that he’d be insane to cross a NATO border, but they’d look pretty stupid if they were caught with their pants down. So they have to reinforce NATO’s eastern borders just in case he goes completely Napoleonic Complex.

Infantile twaddle

Putin propagandist, war-crime apologist.

And a CON man as well for betending to be a retired UK Army non-com. officer.

Spell checker bug!
I mean pretending.

Great comment, your contribution of 10 inane and sad comments are much appreciated for their comedy value!

I feel really cheeted by A Moore!
Should he not be BANNED from this site?
If A Moore was really a former UK non-com officer, should it not ring alarm bells at the MoD, with a official investigation launched?

Sad isn’t it mate but at least he is so bad it’s funny!

Troll, even I spotted it.

It’s getting silly now mate, makes reasoned chat and debate hard as we all have to challenge such offensive garbage, when we have better things to discuss.

Speaking of Yourself again, and again as usual!

I am not a propagandist, I reflect a countervailing opinion that in my view, based on my experience, is the more realistic view.

I am pleased you were not able to identify a lie by me, that’s a start.

Thank you for expanding rather well on my comment “Whilst we see the often impressive videos we don’t have enough information to make educated guesses on their military effectiveness beyond perhaps the small drone artillery spotting task.”

Well it’s a philosophical question whether they are lies as I suspect you’re sufficient deranged to believe the excuses for war crimes that you spout. Certainly all untrue though.

Wrong. It’s patently obvious the Ukrainians aren’t going to post videos of the most effective use of their drones. Last thing a successful military does is tell its opponent how it’s using its weapons to decimate* them.

Actually “decimate” is the wrong word as Ukraine are killing way more than 1 in 10 of the Russian cannon fodder that’s sent against them.

No you don’t you promote and support a racist Nazi ideology headed by Putin in an illegal invasion you refuse to condemn! Do you want to condemn it yet?

Oh dear, you fucked up, Sean replied to A More saying “Putin propagandist etc” you then replied to Sean “I am not a propagandist” Oh dear oh dear oh dear, Sean was replying, and calling that name to A Moore, and you answered saying you are not! Getting your avatars confused troll!!!!!!! Contributors will see that and have their concerns about you finally confirmed! You fucked up again troll!

I believe he did precisely the same thing the other day Airborne, it’s becoming comical really, their psychological warfare is as effective as their armed warfare, a shit show of incompetence……..

Agreed!

In everything you post.

I may criticise you at times but that seems a fair comment you made there, though if we have learned anything it is that aircraft and especially helicopters are going to struggle in such a war zone potentially very seriously in anything but stand off weapons hopefully long range ones. As such drones are going to be even more vital than we probably expected but as you hint the serious attrition rate may well have a significant re assessment of what type of drone is best suited to a particular task. The idea that a sophisticated example will be far more likely to survive may be in question, small and cheaper models might be more useful than what this project envisaged but one thing is for certain they will in some form be vital for spotting and targeting of longer range weapons or artillery that may take on a greater role over aircraft or copters being able to do that role. Whatever something needs to be obtained and pretty quick.

Brill, someone on here actually making a rare thoughtful, constructive and relevant comment on one of my posts. Given the flak I get I didn’t want to go into your amount of detail but you pretty much nailed it. I tried to make it as neutral and relevant as I could.Thank you.

In a contested AD environment the days of the TB-2 type UAV at one end of the scale and the RQ-4 at the other (viz Iran) are probably over. Yes, they will continue to have a role but militaries will be much more prudent in their use. The days of all kinds of cheap, stealthy, small and kamikaze drones are upon us often supporting stand off munitions.

Excellent move by our military I’d say.

Any condemnation of Putins illegal invasion of Ukraine yet?

On T-62’s!
Seen on the ground near Kherson, use by the Russian army!

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck…

I’ve spent plenty of time on logically and methodically demolishing the propaganda posted by “JohnInMK”/“A Moore” – BTW it’s the same person using both identities. His incompetence means he sometimes replies using the wrong identity 😆

From before the invasion began he has been an apologist for Putin’s actions, denied every single atrocity and war crime, and parroted the official propaganda that Russia is having great success, meeting all its objections, and not taking many casualties.
You would have thought given Russia’s long history of disinformation that they would be more nuanced and sophisticated. But no, it’s all still crude, blatant and insulting to the intelligence of anyone who hears it.

You really are blinded by your own bias, with a methodology plucked from the clouds, making yourself look pretty stupid and bigoted. A real ‘Reds under the beds’ relic left over from the past quite content to scrape the floor for baseless insults to hurl at anyone who doesn’t have your view of the World.

Probably driving potentially valuable commenters away from this site.

If you are so convinced that I am also A Moore why don’t you ask the Mods if we have the same details or any indication that we are? Whilst about it, do as I have told you to many times, ask which country my IP and email address is in?

Put up or shut up!

Oooh do I detect genuine outrage from you? Hit a nerve have I?
Funny how being accused of posting under multiple names outrages you but not the rape and slaughter of defenceless Ukrainians. Interesting set of priorities you have there…

You’ve never once before told me that, you might have said that to Airborne or the many other commentators in this sight that have caught you out posting under multiple identities though.

You don’t need a degree in Computer Science (a first if you’re interested) to know that using different email addresses or IP addresses means you’re different people. And while IP is a rough guide as to country location it’s a simple job to set up, for example, a VPN to appear to be in a different country. Plenty of people can get around that to access media content not available in their country.

So all your excuses, claims and general whinges demolished once again by the simple application of public facts and logic. Embarrassed yet?

Really though, you should be embarrassed about all the civilians tortured, raped, and murdered by you glorious Russian Army. I assume you’re still refusing to condemn this?

He got angry he been caught again! Just your average Putin supporting troll Nazi! There’s a few knocking about now, and the reason is we are handing johnskie his arse every time he spouts drivel, and like his Russian rapist comrades, desperate for some back up!

Yet it’s amusing when he cracks and gets angry, and starts stamping his feet in a childish tantrum.

If he were remotely human though, he’d be angered by Russia’s war crimes.

Your own fault, as being an apologist for Czar Pootin!
It is you that’s driving potentially valuable commenters away from this site, as usual with your BS!

Are you getting angry? It’s quite simple to bluff an IP address with the right kit, but anyway why don’t you use some of your anger and outrage at condemning Putins illegal invasion of Ukraine? And your previous 5 months of pro-Putin posts have made YOU look stupid and bigoted, do you need me to cut and paste some of them here to remind you and others? So about that condemnation of Putins illegal invasion of Ukraine you refuse to state? Decide yet?

Why did you reply for A Moore then, answering a direct question to him refuting the questioners claim, as JohninMK? Try to answer just one question, then we can discuss your condemnation of Putins illegal invasion of Ukraine.

I failed to spot A Moore until lately.
He seemed like a reasonable ex non-com officer, or just pretending to be, some time ago?

Yes I don’t recall seeing the name on here pre-invasion.

Speaking of yourself as usual, as a crazy trumpan!

Any condemnation of Putins illegal invasion of Ukraine yet?

John, do you live in Macedonia?

No in Bucks, why?

Bucks? Is that a district of Moskva (MK)?

Peoples Republic of Bucks?

Another Mickey Mouse ‘state’ for Putin to liberate by killing all it’s inhabitants perhaps?

Very good but I don’t think our overlords in BCC in Ayesbury view it quite like that.

Well it’s always fascinated me how England seems to produce the worst , deranged “brit haters” of the four home countries! Saying that I may be guilty of mis applying your nationality. It still does impress me though the level of craven sympathy people like you will ” spaff” to coin a phrase, on any and all bampot regime’s around thebworld, seen to be sticking it to the UK. Hell I bet you were having the time of your life back in desert storm when we were rather casually chucking out tornado fleet into the sand! Are you sure yr not Jeremy or Piers Corbyn ? John McDonnell maybe? He seems about as ‘ special’ as you old chap.

NATO has always been a defensive organisation, it was never “honed” to be an invasion force.

Invasion was always the Russian speciality – 1956 Hungary, 1968 Czechoslovakia, 1979 Afghanistan….

Interesting saying as you patently have no standards, no principles, and no conscience.

NATO hasn’t created any problem. Russia created the problem by invading a peaceful democratic country. All that Russia seems to have learned is how to cover-up its horrendous casualties.

It might be possible. The standard JDAM uses a combined inertial navigation system (INS) combined with GPS. The aircraft feeds the aircraft’s velocity information to the INS prior to release, Along with the impact location. Where the “flight computer” works out the best glide angle to reach the target. I don’t know if the system is clever enough to work out its initial position just from a gps feed, after it’s been released?

For this kind of use the pilot/operator will have to know precise parameters of the launch aircraft and the target to determine when to release the bomb. But I think it could be doable.

The standard JDAM has a range of about 30km when released from 40,000ft. The range can be extended with a wing kit. I’d have to find my range tables to give you precise distances. As there’s other variables that affect the bombs range, such as, aircraft attitude eg toss bombing, air pressure, humidity and aircraft speed at release. As a JTAC you needed to be conversant of a weapon’s performance just as much as the pilot. For example, wind conditions at ground level, will be different to those at 40,000ft.

According to various sources, it has a range between 70-80km. A Quickstrike mine version is said to do 74km at 35,000ft. It has been tested up 40,000ft & down to 10,000ft. It should also be one of the easier weapons for full integration. Could JDAM itself already be integrated? Thinking of all those NATO members with similar aircraft.

It only has that range with the extended range wing kit fit. The standard strakes only allow it glide as far as I stated. When released from a lower height its glide range will be less

I have called in few when in Afghan as well as on training in the States.

I did say at the start of my posts on this that I was referring to the JDAM-ER (the wing kit equipped version). My understanding is that any aircraft that already has JDAM integrated can easily integrate the JDAM-ER (as the seperate wing kit is the only difference). I was looking at it to be a cheaper alternative to missiles that may be usable on existing Ukrainian aircraft. Somewhere around 500,000 JDAM kits have been produced. Not sure how many -ER wing kits, but expanded production seems possible. Not aware of any missile production that gets close to these sort of numbers.

Difficult to disagree. But how about five to ten months?

Fair enough. Could the current set up respond if a conflict started in a few months? In a lot of ways we were under prepared for the Falklands war but managed to move things on on the hoof. Wasn’t sidewinder ratified on the way down to the islands?

Honestly no.

Not yet.

Things are not yet at the fast prototype to production stage.

A lot of the problem is that timescale are glacial because there are so many elements of reach into new tech.

I think what is going on here is to produce simpler platforms fast from mature tech. Mind you our mature tech is very very special from Tanaris and Mantis.

Taranis worked though? And the others before it developed by the SPS at Warton.

True but Taranis never went into production. I did say our engineers are the best but the managers – well let’s say I wouldn’t get them to manage a booze up in brewery.

Seem to remover talk of production Taranis costing $200 million each. Mind that was probably rumours. An intercontinental UCAV carrying two 2,000lb bombs would be pretty handy. Almost a long range F117.

Andrew you are right. I know about this issue first hand. South Korea offered the UK their proven track and trace app and all required hardware for national coverage for the miserly sum of £250 million. Their system worked. Instead the UK commissioned Dominic Cummings sister’s company, who had never developed an app before and had zero IT speciality in this area to develop the track and trace app. Result. 10s of billions of £s wasted through incompetence and yes im going to say it. Corruption.

Totally agree with you. I might add that Dido Harding was married to the conservative MP John Penrose. She was a failure at TalkTalk and a faliure at test and trace which cost UK taxpayers a fortune. It’s says it all really technical jobs for the partners of politicians. We really need a root and branch reform of both procurement and appointments to senior posts. It should be based upon capability, knowledge and delivery as opposed to who you know. I’m tired of seeing technical projects run via nepotism and people with no technical understanding. All three main parties are doing this but the governing party should make things fully transparent…fat chance though!

And yet everyone here keeps voting Tory 😀

Martin I don’t vote for Marxists…I have to pick the least worst party unfortunately. The thought of Captain Hindsight and his motley band of Marxist Corbynista’s fills me with dred…Jesus Starmer doesn’t even know what a woman is for god’s sake!

You think kier starmer is a Marxist? Corbyn is not even a member of the Labour Party any more. Your voting for populists and failed aristocrats and your justifying it with lies, conspiracy theories and nonsense. Yesterday you were telling me your not a racist you just don’t want Chinese people with British passports to be let in the country. At some point you just need to be honest without your self and everyone else.

There are many Marxists still within the Labour party just because Corbyn left doesn’t mean it’s a Marxist free zone. On national TV Starmer was unable to quantify what a woman is so how about that for women’s rights? He also kneels for BLM which for me is a Marxist organisation that wants to defund the police force (I vaguely remember you said you were ex-Police so how about that for you). As regards your intimated statement that I’m racist my wife is South East Asian and came to this country through entirely legal means through marriage to me. British national overseas (BNO) which is the status the Hong Kong Chinese have meant they were still subject to immigration controls and did not have the right to abode in the UK. I would add that not all Hong Kong Chinese had BNO status but Tories did two things which were not voted on by the UK population which was to extend BNO to all Hong Kong Chinese and to extend a visa to them as well which gives them an easy pathway to full citizenship. Now the main issue for me is the shear numbers that could potentially come as we have no way of limiting numbers that coupled with the seurity risk of Chinese communist sleeper cells. Government projections are 250,000 over the next five years but over a longer period some estimates put the figure at 2,000,000. In fact the Tories in effect have given 3,000,000 the right to live in the UK potentially. Obviously not all will take up that offer but it depends upon what the Chinese communist government does or does not do that will effect numbers as well as what offers Canada, the US and Australia provided for them as well. Just like Labour when they underestimated the effect of allowing EU accession states to migrate to the UK numbers were underestimated massively I might add and I was against that as well and these were white Europeans. This has nothing to do with race but to do with shear numbers and the effect on housing for young people in the UK, the NHS, roads, rail infrastructure, electrical power you name all parts of infrastructure will be under strain. This constraint on housing and its natural effect on the cost of liviing (rent makes takes most from people’s incomes) is going to be a major source of tension between the haves and have nots. We simly can’t build 600,000 houses per annum to deal with the backlog and those new ones coming in. Before you mention we need to invest well that never happened under Labour or the Tories as the money is not there – UK GDP debt is getting close to 100% so we have no wiggle room for investment in housing. Migration increases GDP but the pie everyone gets is smaller as all economic surveys suggest. Anyway I’m tired of talking to left wingers that shout “racist” every time someone is against immigration as this term has now lost all meaning whatsoever in this country. This is mainly because the left have overused that term for anyone that disagrees with them and being against immigration is absolutely not racist in any way shape or form – it’s a political opinion. You are free to disagree with my political opinion on how much immigration we have but to say someone is racist as they want to decrease immigration is simply stupid, moronic and will needlessly get people’s hackles up as I just think you have an IQ of around 30 then. This is why the left are rarely in power, they need to do electoral pacts to get in power and the main reason they lost Brexit against all the odds. It’s the reason why they will keep losing as people of all colours and creeds reject the simplistic approach the left has on divide and conquer and the need to label people wityh “ism’s”. The left don’t care about these things they just want to control every aspect of people’s lives. This is the real origin of the left politics which is amply explained in George Orwell’s 1984…Labelling people with “ism’s” is just another control mechanisms but us on the right have the measure of this now so bleat on all you want…you just indicate to me you have an IQ of 30….

Brilliant post. Bloody brilliant post! This is my position too.
No one ever explains what they will do to cope with ongoing 250,000 a year so 1 million every 4 years, ongoing, increase in population. Resources wise it is sod all to do with race.
Race wise, I could not give a stuff if you are white black pink or green with yellow spots if you then adopt this country and support its values, culture, and ways. And do they….? Some do, many do not.
Continue with that over a few hundred years and see what of Great Britain or any nations character then. Gone. Simply a container for peoples with no loyalty to that nation, equals that nation is finished from within.

Thanks Daniele that’s appreciated. You know last week I had some American’s over for a visit (I was showing them around). They were all left wing which is fine as normally I get on well with all political persuasions as long as they aren’t too extreme. These American’s were all white middle and upper middle class and very, very privelaged economically and from an educational perspective. However, they kept on asking my political opinions and I said I’m apolitical (which was broadly what I was ten years ago). This avoids unnecessary arguments about trivialities. Then they started a rant about how all white American’s were evil and using power to subjugate minority groups (these were white American’s I remind you). They fumed they were locked out of power because all American politics is right wing and no left wing policies can be enacted. I humbly suggested why don’t they reach across to the other side and reach a compromise via discussion. They weren’t having any of that at all. What they said deeply disturbed me and if this is anything like what most on the left think in the US then they are heading for a very dark era akin to their war of 1861-1865. There is no compromise there is only demonising of the other side. There is no believing in other people’s better intentions there is only the shouts of “ism’s”. Unfortunately this attitude of left wing demonisation of the right and the “no compromise” approach is heading the UK’s way I suspect. Very, very sad indeed in my opinion that they can’t seek compromise and reach across and believe in people’s better intentions. The want mass immigration mainly to gain political leverage and to spite the lower middle class and working class who vote for centre right policies. The dividing line is now actually class based with broadly the middle and upper middle class doing well out of globalisation (and hence left wing) and the lower middle class and working class disenfranchised. Mass immigration means that the minimum wage is now the maximum wage for many whilst the middle class and upper middle class make hay out of cheap labour and don’t have to worry about access to housing, schools, the NHS etc, etc. The nature of the beast is that Labour is now a very privelaged and elite party for the privelaged and elite. The Tories messed up a big majority and my worry now is that globlisation in the UK will be put on steroids with us rejoining the EU and hence a further influx of mass migration forcing down wages and putting up prices in the UK with more and more demand on schools, NHS, housing etc. This is a battle between the elite “haves” and the working “have nots”. The elites have used the language of “ism’s” to silence debate on the issue of mass migration and its effects on the UK population as a whole.

It’s already here. Such a sad state of affairs. I was called a fascist / racist several times out on campaign for Farage for simply wanting my nation free of the EU.
A simple political choice.
They’d have been speechless if they’d seen the black guys and a few Muslim “Taliban” looking types, fellow Brits who had also come down for the day to help. Doesn’t fit their warped tunnel view stereotype.

Anyway. What’s your view on Mosquito!!

I agree Daniele whole-heartedly on everything you say. I think Mosquito is a missed opportunity. I will say this about DSTL they do miss things occassionally (not always but just sometimes they miss the opportunities). I can’t help but feel we do need to develop a UK drone capability and it’s a place marker for ambition and for building UK skills for young people as well. Maybe it was expensive and something newer and cheaper was around the corner or it didn’t have all the capabiltiies. However, from experience in developing niche high end engineering software you have to start and put a placemarker down and you can improve things later on. My gut instinct is that the MoD should bite the bullet and develop one drone into a fully functioning build programme either Taranis, Magma, Mosquito etc. I think they canned this now but I hope they pull all these disparate programmes together and just build one so we have UK industry being built up and competing internationally. We need in-house capability in the UK to do these things. I have had similar issues before when developing niche high end engineering software (cheaper to use off the shelf from other countries) but I wouldn’t take no for an answer and this helps build the next generation of skills at the same time when you do have programmes in the UK. The UK does itself down all the time but usually it is the bean counters and managers that are the issue as UK engineers are definitely some of the very best in the world.

Starmer’s wife if Jewish. He knows what a woman is.

Martin, let’s be clear; when we decapitated Charles I we didn’t actually abolish the divine right to rule. By a subtle leger de main it passed to the Tory party. Witness the behaviour of Boris Johnson, who clearly sees himself as a reincarnation of Charles I. As I write this, he is with future king Charles III addressing the Commonwealth in of all places Rwanda. Delusions of grandeur. You couldn’t make it up!

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Well said, failure seems to be seen as an asset in this Country esp in politics and the lackeys they employ often through nepotism that’s for sure. Never employ someone who looks better than you is the motto which means picking from a pretty shallow pool of incompetence let’s get real, to look worse than our politicians. So mediocrity and brown. nosing sycophancy are prized assets in that swamp usually dragging industry and commerce down with it. To think for years Prince Andrew was the face of Britain’s soft power and commerce. With a deal maker and figurehead like that is it any wonder we struggled to be taken seriously or attracted those best suited in the structures of power and influence.

The mere discussion of bringing in a track and trace app that was existing and off the shelf had the human rights lawyers waiting in the wings.

Numerous ways of doing what was needed existed, heck chuck on a prison release tag would have done it (some countries did) but alas the opposition would have opposed, legal cases would have ensued and the joys of that side of democracy would have taken over and probably costed even more money.

Hi Mr Bell, see my answer above, the U.K. track and trace App issues were more related to U.K. privacy laws ect. As you know I’m never a government apologist, but in the UKs case any track and trace app that impacted on personal privacy was always going to be a moral, legal and technical quagmire. It’s why after 12billion pounds pissed away and the best Tec companies in the world trying to solve the problem for a decade we could not get the idea of a single shared health record to work.

i didn’t vote for this government but check your facts before lazily trying to prove a point.The Alice Cummings at Idox is not his sister, just a coincidence on the name.The company Idox has been involved with postal voting, but has nothing to do with the NHS’ track and trace app, so that’s a double lie.

They were told by Apple/Google that it wouldn’t work, Germany had already by that time binned the idea only France attempted to do something ‘closed shop’ like us. Of course good old Boris wanted to boast about Britain post Brexit and look good. The same as he jumped at signing defence guarantees with Finland/Sweden to look good without any real expectation we might have to follow up on it of course having little to nothing we could send them but some special ital forces a a few fighters, he didn’t see Turkeys stance coming as usual but then when does he ever see the future till it strikes him and his incompetent bunch of ass lickers in the cabinet. Even under these terrible and fearful times of threat I suspect as this decision suggests all we will see is hot air and bluster over any real strengthening of our defence forces or even adequate vital upgrades like anti ship missiles while attacking others for their supposed inactivity. He takes smoke and mirrors to new levels of fakery and misdirection and as he admitted today that won’t change it’s his inherent personality trait.

The issue with the track and trace app was more about an interaction between privacy laws, data protection and the tec issue. It’s easy to set up the app if like Korea you don’t have the same focus on privacy over the greater good, where as in the U.K. it was always going to be a nightmare as we are utterly driven by Personal privacy as the driving (we are still far more driven by this moral imperative than most other cultures).

Indeed it would not have worked here.

FFS the Test and Trace app worked, try to not keep ignorantly reposting conspiracy theorists’ crap.

The Turks produced those when they could not get more sophisticated drones. True they have limitations ( though they are launching an upgraded version for their own forces) but we could certainly improve upon the basic design or others certainly could. Either way they have are are proving vital to Ukrainian operations. You need information to target properly their ship strikes have relied upon them and loses are just a fact of life to gain the advantage you need to stay in the fight. Rather than re invent the wheel we need at this stage to produce or buy something of that nature that can do a job otherwise we won’t be able to effectively take out targets in a contested battlefield.

As I’ve said before: there is no point in investing time and effort in systems that fail in front of a medium grade adversary.

I mean you train with a system you build your responses round a system….

If you do that and the system is interdicted you have a hole in your systems?

Indeed and best we find someone who can and will.

I think he tried to quote a phrase which reads, “A BSC does not mean smart is what that guy taught me,” in response to your rather reasonable proposition to requires degrees. I completely agree; if a manager does not have expertise he does not understand what is realistic, what can be solved and how much time that takes, or whether a different approach is required. A person with a degree in economics or arts is not going to make a good manager.

Tempest will be an action replay of TSR2. The UK will develop a fantastic product, have a financial crisis and be forced to scrap it and implement an inferior US solution in exchange for a US bail out of our impoverished post Brexit economy.

Our economy is a very long way from needing a bail out from anyone.

I see Ultra will be sold to Cobham and thence to US private equity holders.

No, more likely another government comes in ,moves the deckchairs, and cancels the lot. Not financial, but ideology. The money will always be there we are a rich powerful country. They are not forced to do anything.

Defence projects run over a long period and there should be a consensus and ringfencing between Con/Lab over long term defence projects and plans for the UKs benefit.

Instead, they are too busy trying to destroy the other with mass mud slinging to get elected next to deploy their own ideologies.

Sadly our days of being a “rich powerful country” are long gone, we just behave as if we still are. The problem is debt, or more accurately the interest on our debt. I think I read somewhere last week, probably the Mail, that it was nearing £100B a year and is now the third largest spending ‘department’ after the NHS and Social Security.

With what appears to be a gradual increase in interest rates this looks to be a case of either our taxes go up, expenditure goes down or they print some more £ leading to more inflation. The last being the Governments favourite as few understand what they are up to. All this on top of the soaring energy costs that started a year ago and show little sign of slowing down. The Defence budget must be at risk in those circumstances.

I agree with you comment re politicians, the first thing they do when they get into power is to put in place a plan to try to ensure they win next time and they, not necessarily us, view mus slinging as a useful tool.

Thankfully our politicians don’t use Putin’s plan for winning next-time: imprison and murder all your political opponents.

The rest of the G7 will have debt, yes? And yet here we are, part of G7, part of UNSC, with a nuclear deterrent, a modern military, and a top Soft Power too.

Respectfully, I think you’re looking at negatives only.

Very true, but all you mention are associated with our illustrious past, not our current indebted state and just because we seem to be in the same boat as many others isn’t necessarily a good thing or a protection.

You are right, I am probably being negative but as to how we get out of it I have a suspicion but don’t have a clue. It is a serious problem mainly due to none of our politicians being prepared to face it headon, ignoring it doesn’t mean that it will go away. As I said, I think they will use inflation to reduce the real value of debt, great for them but a disaster for most of the rest of us.

Personally I’m starting to start think back to the early 70s when inflation went rampant so I’m buying ahead as much as I can. Plus with the energy crunch on its way, planning how to cope living with minimal energy use. I don’t know how old you are but I grew up with ice on the inside of draughty bedroom windows when central heating was unusual. Buying a couple of small fan heaters and electric blankets now could be a prudent move.

You mean a Labour government gets elected and cancels it along with other important defence projects?

Let’s hope not, they’re a joke party.

Looking back over the last 100 years there has only been a labour government for about 25% of the time; typically periods of significant social change following a crisis or WW e.g. universal suffrage following WW1, universal education and health care following WW2, social freedoms following the approval of the pill in 1960 and legal abortion in 1967. Brexit, Ukraine, Scottish Nationalism and migration pressures, when combined could be enough to trigger a systemic social and economic change – so a labour or a lib-lab coalition is definitely on the cards come the next election. We might see proportional representation. How that would affect defence spending I have no idea, but I would guess less than you might think. I can’t see the UK unilaterally renouncing our nuclear deterrent.

Yeah the last time the Liberals went into coalition government worked so well for them at the next election…

If you want to keep society the same (hierarchical, competitive, paternalistic) vote Tory. If you want a society which is bottom up, co-operative and democratic vote labour. Vote liberal if you can’t decide and have a tendency to libertinism.

Thank you for confirming than you can’t have a competitive society under Labour or Liberals. Of course we saw that in the 79’s and 80’s with uncompetitive industries going to the wall and mass unemployment.
Salaries offered were uncompetitive too, so we saw our brightest and best leave with the brain drain to the USA.
We even saw competition was frowned on in sport, taking part was all that mattered, consequently we won didly squat at the Olympics.

In short without competition, we decline into inefficiency, mediocrity, and permanent decline. In short, the ‘levelling-down’ that socialism always achieves; cf USSR, North Korea, Cuba, etc

PS: Socialists on very principle don’t believe in democracy other to first gain power. Labour’s attempts to dismiss and disregard the Brexit referendum result showed their utter contempt for democracy.

Neither system works indefinitely. Capitalism has an exponential tendency to go out of control and requires periodic correction. This usually takes the form of a war and/or a depression. Vanilla socialism as you say kills the spirit. But our current economics is not working. 1% own 50% of the wealth and although we produce enough food to feed everyone 800million are starving. We see world wide waves of migration from Africa and Central America to safe havens in the US and Europe. Boris has been pursuing essentially a mix of social democratic policies and red blooded Brexit to keep as wide a range of voters happy as possible. We do need new types of politics which move us towards societies where goods are produced by all for the sake of all.

No it doesn’t, capitalism has periodic wobbles of varying degrees. But ultimately it is self-correcting and continues onwards, as it has done for thousands of years. Your comments about it needed wars or depressions is straight out of the books of the conspiracy socialists who claim wars are ‘engineered’ for this purpose.
The reason why the world produces so much food now is capitalism, and the reason why Europe and the USA are see as safe havens is that because real poverty has been effectively eradicated here. By real poverty I refer to the poverty of medieval or even Victorian times, levels that are still seen in many parts of the world.
The reason that Europe and the USA has achieved this is all down to capitalism.
What you propose is utopia, and every time people who know best, attempt to force their utopian solution on a society, dystopia results. Our current system has many faults. Inherited wealth is the primary cause of that 1% wealth, rather than it being earned through merit. I never said our system is perfect, it’s just better than all the alternatives.

Agreed, Boris has been Pershing a social democratic approach with pragmatic backing of sound policies like Brexit. While he has many character flaws, he’s gotten in right on investing in, and rolling out vaccines, and backing Ukraine with weapons before any other nation and to a greater volume (bar the USA).
So I’d rather him remain as OM than some of the head-banging anti-vax loonies on the back-benches of the Tory party. And I’d he’s also far better than a Labour Party under Captain Hindsight who has the leadership skills of Frank Spencer.

NGAD seems an unlikely option for the UK, the US is already talking about it possibly costing multiple 100’s of millions of dollars per aircraft. Not to mention the lack of any UK IP. It would be the death of fast jet development in the UK with massive skilled, high paying job losses across BAES, RR, Leonardo UK etc. Then there’s the issues the UK has faced getting weapons integrated on F-35 that doesn’t make being part of another US dominated program attractive.

The Tempest program key requirement has always been for an affordable platforms, so the RAF can get the numbers they want. Cost control was stressed at the 2018 launch by both the RAF and BAES and it keeps being stressed as part of BAES automated manufacturing.

Agreed mate. They cannot let the cost run out of control otherwise Tempest will not become a reality. And a careful balance of capability expectations will also be required. The idea we can get some super stealthy, long range fighter that can run rings around a F22 and is cheap is a pipe dream. It requires a whole new way of thinking, and the capability will come over time.

There were a couple of very good interviews with the RAF and BAES at the 2018 launch where they talked about risk mitigation by spiraling solutions out of Typhoon and also the balance of capability that you mentioned (links below). Perhaps most critically the Tempest program seems to be adopting a very flexible approach to the commercial partnerships that will hopefully avoid the work-share issues that seem to dog multinational programs.

BAES interview – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogAtFy3q3xk

RAF interview – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utanRbCOfI8

Thanks for the links mate, I’ll take a look👍

I would agree with you on that Steve. Booze up in a brewery as I would say the way things are managed…

Shortly for testing at RAF Luton?

That’s the one! Shhhhhhhh

I’ll try harder next time 😆

Could it be that they cancelled this with the intention of joining the AUS loyal wingman project which seems farther along in it’s development, all part of some yet undisclosed AUKUS arrangement?

I’ve literally no idea.

It isn’t impossible but we are trying to be less US dependant and Loyal Wingman is a AUS Boeing project?

RAF have had a lot of trouble getting UK weapons integrated on F35B and the export issues with various missiles have lead to US Content being reduced to zero for new manufactured units.

So quite how full of US sensors Loyal Wingman is, is I would suspect the central question.

The other side of the coin may be that it is already networked for F35B so it could be an easy drop in for F35B.

Boeing have said where Ghost Bat is built, Brisbane or the US, will depend on the market to be exported to.

The nose-mounted sensors are supposed to be mission swappable, so they might be the least problematic thing about buying Boeing.

Who owns the software and who can modify it: might be more the issue?

Yes, I’m fully aware of that hence the video and fitted on all future drones and Tempest.

Am I missing something? neither of the videos mention future drones or Tempest. The technology might not be mature enough to fit as standard to future drones or Tempest.

Thanks, I saw that and was puzzled by John Clark’s comment.

It was the comment that the Ghost Bat is pretty much what the MoD specified that bemused me. How does he know? (Feel free to chip in, Mr Clark.)

We know how long and wide it is and how far it can fly. It’s subsonic and it’s primarily a sensor carrier. We know very little else. Except I haven’t had to wade through a higher density of buzz phrases to try and find out what something does since I looked at the Baden-Württemberg frigate.

We don’t know about power, payload, or kinetic weapon capabilities — I haven’t even seen anything to confirm that it will have any, much less what they might be. We don’t even know what can be tailored for particular export markets.