It has been revealed that the British P-8 Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft will not, at first, feature British weapons.

In November 2015, the UK announced its intention to order nine P-8 aircraft as part of the Strategic Defence and Security Review 2015. The aircraft are to be based at RAF Lossiemouth, Scotland and be used to protect the UK’s nuclear deterrent and new aircraft carriers. The P-8s are also to perform search-and-rescue missions and conduct overland reconnaissance.

In March 2016, the US State Department approved a proposed Foreign Military Sale to the UK for up to nine P-8 aircraft and associated support, at an estimated cost of $3.2 billion. The Royal Air Force plans to operate the P-8 with US weapons initially and possibly transition to British weapons later. It is unclear whether the UK will have access to future ground-surveillance capabilities being developed for the P-8 but many expect it will.

Asked by Mr Kevan Jones(MP for North Durham):
“To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, whether the P-8 Poseidon will be capable of carrying UK Storm Shadow and other manufactured munitions.”

Answered by: Philip Dunne:
“The Department intends to bring the P-8A into service without significant modification to ensure the delivery of operational capability as soon as is practicable. There are no current plans to integrate Stormshadow or other UK manufactured weapons onto the aircraft.”

The P-8 conducts anti-submarine warfare, anti-surface warfare and shipping interdiction along with an electronic signals intelligence role. This involves carrying torpedoes, depth charges, SLAM-ER missiles, Harpoon anti-ship missiles, and other weapons. It is able to drop and monitor sonobuoys. It is designed to operate in conjunction with the Northrop Grumman MQ-4C Triton Broad Area Maritime Surveillance unmanned aerial vehicle. The aircraft has been ordered by the Indian Navy as the P-8I Neptune, and the Royal Australian Air Force.

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David Tett
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Eh? Fat load of use. Find the sub and wave goodbye to it?

realfan
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realfan

errrr maybe buy American weapons

Simon Robinson-Lovatt
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It’s no huge biggie. We get a well priced ASW aircraft with proven and reliable technology. It’s disappointing to think that this isn’t contributing to British jobs but the plus point is that we get some great technology to use.

Plus, that’s just in the meantime!

David Abbott
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We produce proven technology in the UK defence industry. Why not support our jobs and defence manufacturers and keep some of the investment here in the UK ?

Simon Robinson-Lovatt
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because right now it’s simpler, cheaper and easier to cut through the red tape with a proven platform. I do agree that we need our own ring-fenced system, but for the now. For the getting this solution online and protecting our waters – we ought to take a system that we KNOW works. Then in the future, adapt, overcome and integrate into our weps suites.British industry will be fine whilst we develop an aircraft that can mesh with Astute, T45 and airborne platforms.

Give it a chance before you shoot it down, so to speak.

Ian Stone Brown
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would not weapons come handy in a war 😮

Simon Taylor
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Have you actually read the article? They’ll be operating with US weapons.

Ian Stone Brown
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good plan no development cost and eeer no i did not

Fred McCann
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Fred McCann

Good idea, otherwise we face more delays as they are modified to take UK weapons.

David Abbott
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Sad to think that failing to integrate UK technology on the aircraft initially could seriously impact and potentially jeopardise the future capability of British industry.

Jason Holmes
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All we are doing now is buying American aircraft anyway.

Spitfire
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Spitfire

Because BAE can’t project manage and produce affordable platforms…

Ivor Evans
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Ivor Evans

When is the first aircraft being delivered?