Norwegian fuel company Haltbakk Bunkers has announced it will cease supplying fuel to U.S. military forces in Norway and American ships docking in Norwegian ports, citing dissatisfaction with recent U.S. policy towards Ukraine.

In a strongly worded statement, the company criticised a televised event involving U.S. President Donald Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance, referring to it as the “biggest shitshow ever presented live on TV.”

Haltbakk Bunkers praised Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky for his restraint, accusing the U.S. of “putting on a backstabbing TV show” and declaring that the spectacle “made us sick.”

As a result, the company stated: “We have decided to immediately STOP as fuel provider to American forces in Norway and their ships calling Norwegian ports. No Fuel to Americans!” Haltbakk Bunkers also urged Norwegians and Europeans to follow their lead, concluding their statement with the slogan “Slava Ukraina” in support of Ukraine.

Who is Haltbakk Bunkers?

Haltbakk Bunkers is a Norwegian fuel supplier that provides marine fuel for shipping and military operations. Based in Kristiansund, Norway, the company specialises in bunkering services for vessels operating in Norwegian waters, offering fuel logistics and distribution for both civilian and military customers.

Haltbakk Bunkers plays a significant role in Norway’s maritime industry, supplying fuel to vessels calling at Norwegian ports, including NATO and allied forces.

The decision to cut off the U.S. military could have logistical implications for American naval operations in the region. Norway is a key NATO member and frequently hosts U.S. and allied forces for joint exercises and Arctic defence operations.

This announcement raises questions about the broader European stance on U.S. policy towards Ukraine and whether other businesses or governments might take similar actions. It also highlights how private companies in Europe are responding independently to geopolitical developments.

The U.S. has not yet responded to the decision, and it remains to be seen whether this will affect fuel supply chains for American forces operating in Norway and the North Atlantic region.

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293 COMMENTS

    • To be fair I don’t think that would include Norway, they are a major exporter of petroleum products. Also this is not an action of the Norwegian government but of a private company. Good on the company for putting principles above profit unlike Trump.

      • Really? You want this slaughter to continue so the military industrial complex can profit instead?
        What’s the plan to win this? Push Putin to the point he uses Nukes?

        • Why would Putin use nukes for losing ground in Ukraine? The Soviet Union didn’t nuke Afghanistan when it was forced to withdraw. Putin would withdraw eventually too.

          • Russia isn’t losing ground in Ukraine but Ukraine has nearly run out of military aged men. What would an Ukraine victory look like with a shrinking army? Someone should explain how that is even possible. Back on topic: The Norwegian government might consider covering for Haltbakk Bunkers a company that reneges on contracts and cannot be trusted.

          • Putin is not going g to withdraw from Ukraine. Norway move will just gasten the demise of Nato. What don’t you peooke understand. America is in heavy debt cannot afford wars. This is Bidens war nothing to wirh Trump. So Trump can easily say pull warships from Norway and any military base there. Russia is not an enemy of America so Riropeans can carry on screaming. Think Trump is stupid to go to war with Russia.

        • Trump need not act like a mafia don and thuggee in office. It demeans the office he holds and tarnishes the American people. Dealing with a mass murderer like Putin by supporting him to destabilize Pax Americana ,like America is Putin’s poodle, lowers him to the same level. Leaving Putin free to terrorize Ukraine and Europe will result in a much greater slaughter of innocents. Trump disgraces the US and risks greater damage and the eventual spilling of American blood as a result of his megalomania.

          • Trump is ( pick one) Putin’s lap-dog, vassal, bitch, you get the idea. I’m a 70-year-old American, my father sailed for Rotterdam Lloyd ( KKRL) during WW2, then settled in the USA. He would not recognize the USA today. Trump’s antipathy towards W. Europe is a total mystery to me, and obviously without basis in fact or logic. His behaviour is so vile, so STUPID, I’m embarassed to show my U.S. passport at the Can. border, let alone in Europe. Pray God we are delivered from this plauge before another catastrophe happens.

          • MAN YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT. It’s hilarious what you will say to sound smart. Wisdom is not your forte.

          • I think it’s lovely! This is going to be the best 4 years of clusters and expensive lawsuits and Congress have a genital size competition, nothing will be done. Who cares about Trump or his weird Vance, Congress is the entity that has the power and they only act on a party line. Dem and Rep alike, one says white the other immediately says black, just because they can. The US government is a joke, has been, and continues to provide entertainment to the countries with competent leaders. Trump, Biden, Trump, all a losing ticket. Add Harris in the mix and still would have an incompetent leader.

          • Better than a mafia boss demanding thing of our supposed allies. Like terminating a criminal investigation. For money. Trump just stops sending our forces that way and add tariffs.

          • Trump was upset by the Ukrainian Presidents lack of etiquette. He never thanked Trump and the United States for the billions of dollars and equipment sent to them. He got into it with Biden before. He is a very demanding person. And to tell Trump that if you don’t help us Putin will cross the ocean and attack the U.S. No wonder Trump got upset. I would have kicked his ass to the street as well!

        • Your take on this literally means giving in and giving up.
          If Russia or some other relatively powerful nation with nukes tells a neighbor they want to have provinces X and Z…index your way of thinking that means saying :’ yes sir, here you are sir, please don’t rape too many women..’

          What a wonderful world it would be…

          • At least we can defend ourselves…..yall pissed as we want you to be able to protect YOUR YARD??? YALLS TRUE COLORS ARE SHOWING…..I mean think about it, if yall can’t even defend your yard how would you possibly come to our aid???? One sided. Step up or step out, don’t tell us how we need to act when we have been carrying you for generations. Be a true “partner” Do your part and STEP UP to US standards. If Poland can do it the rest of you can as well. Yall like that “relative” or “friend” that will act as your bestie as long as your buying. Quit pointing fingers till you fix your own house.

          • Yank, the only time NATO article 5 was activated was by the US after 9/11. Billions spent on an American war by European countries and thousands of Europeans dead coming to your aid. Who is the real freeloader here?

          • I think Trump is a disgusting person nothing but a bully with his muppets .Better off working in the chocolate factory.

          • Agree
            Slava Ukrainei

            Well done to the private company from 🇳🇴
            Standing up to the con man !

            British Veteran 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧

          • Trump is Putins BITCH! That display in the oval office was nothing more than a setup. That was a planned attack by Trump and Vance. If it wasn’t a setup then why was the press there? Besides that if Trump keeps doing the shit he’s been doing since Jan 20th our government will be to weak and in so much chaos that putin could just walk in and take over. I almost believe that’s what trumps endgame is going to be. We should really be learning to speak Russian. We are going to need it

          • As soon as you use Y’ALL…. Everyone knows that they are dealing with an uneducated ass kisser.

          • Batshit dumb , someone needs to man up and tell Congress about separation of powers , Congress is worthless trump suppose to represent all the people and we see who is catering to he got elected because o called white people in this country united for him I have an exit plan and plan on watching the end to democracy as we know it and the rise of what trump and the rich want authoritarian rule with the oligarchs in charge

          • Trump loves the evil empire. Ronald Reagan must be turning in his grave with America kissing up to Putin and his invasion of a democracy. Trump wants to kiss Putin’s …………. boots

          • Probably will be if the US signed resource control agreement with Ukraine; NO PERMANENT ENEMY BUT PERMANENT INTEREST.

          • Americanas they don’t got the raw materials to keep up with the rest world. Hitler would call him a disgrace!!; do the Americans realize what people are watching their elected president and what a disgrace he is Trump that is musk is not far behind, puts out and signs the paper in 2019. He can’t project fuck all like the rest their presidents who were before him. He’s just like the rest of them now. He’s a whining, little bitch crying that things aren’t fair how is the unemployment rate in America? Avoid America at all cost within 6 months. The world will have sunk America. It’s the easiest tariff that the rest of the world can give him.

        • So instead you’d rather kowtow to Putin, give him everything he wants and throw Ukraine under the bus?

          Sod that and your cowardice!

          • I could clear the American debt in 6 months. Here’s my idea. All Trump needs to do is start dealing in fentanyl. The debt would be erased easily in 6 months and the world population or the American population will go down Americans casualties for the sake of money. I can’t believe Trump didn’t think of this idea. It’s the biggest selling thing in the world today and he doesn’t even have a part on it. What is the matter with him? Look at the Colombians and the Mexicans they both got two sources of primary income. What do the Americans got? Oh yeah they got the Ukraine you owe us for the Army that we sent in. We’re little bitch. Somebody should bend that Trump over and stick their penis in his butt Mark, my words I shouted out who killed the Kennedys after all. It was the Americans around two coming up and Russians Must be stuck on stupid again yo. This shit was going on when I was 6 years old and the world still stands today. It’s all just petty bickering nothing’s changed. It’s his stigma attached to stupidity. It will never stop. It will never go away.

          • The Chinese are watching this conflict very closely . What would America do if they invade Taiwan, which they desperately want back.

          • We owe Europe nothing. Why should you think my son should die for Europe. My grandfather died for nothing. We will not die for you again.

          • No one knowtowed to Putin. No one has thrown Ukraine under a bus. Zelenskyy came to Washington and instead of doing what he agreed to do, decided to play a part for the media. He was scolded as he should have been for not conducting himself as a professional. Now he can choose to act that way, but he only risks alienating those that are trying to help him.
            You all act like Trump can just tell Putin what to do. He can’t. He can only try to make a deal with him that gives Ukraine peace. Gives Ukraine stability and security through partnerships with USA and others. Zelensky asks for something that is not being offered. The USA is not going to go to war with Russia. What we offer Ukraine is a deal with Putin to end the war and then a future where Ukraine grows closer to USA and builds a stronger and more influential country that can get its lands back in the future.
            What do you morons think the other options are? Putin, Russia are to blame but they have thousands of nuclear missles. They can literally destroy the earth. Are you all serious?

        • So you believe we should all just succum to any actions or threats an aggressor makes and let Putin march on unhindered through Europe till he gets to your home where his vile scum will steal everything in site rape your family friends n neighbours then murder them. Oh and let’s not forget kidnapping your children and transporting them to Russia fir indoctrination. Perhaps a people might be better to nuke themselves rather than try to survive under such tyranny.

          • Yeah, same old tired scare tactics. Hes going to roll over Europe. With what ? Tanks? His supply is used up . He is using artillery and men from north Korea.
            America started this war when they over threw the Ukraine government. Russia was promised that NATO would not expand its borders, but they did and gave relentlessly until Ukraine and Russia port was at stake.
            They do not want NATO on their doorstep. It’s that simple. America dies not want China or Russia to control Mexico. When they saw the middle East “spring” with overthrow of governments, again sponsored by America, ngos, Russia knew they were next.
            Oh, let’s not forget the absolute lack of funding in Europe to it it’s army. You parasite off the American taxpayers to keep your freedom.

          • Yeah, same old tired scare tactics. He’s going to roll over Europe. With what ? Tanks? His supply is used up . He is using artillery and men from north Korea.
            America started this war when they over threw the Ukraine government. Russia was promised that NATO would not expand its borders, but they did and gave relentlessly until Ukraine and Russia port was at stake.
            They do not want NATO on their doorstep. It’s that simple. America dies not want China or Russia to control Mexico. When they saw the middle East “spring” with overthrow of governments, again sponsored by America, ngos, Russia knew they were next.
            Oh, let’s not forget the absolute lack of funding in Europe to it it’s army. You parasite off the American taxpayers to keep your freedom.

          • You owe Europe nothing? The big and wonderful and powerful US, who make out they are allies of the UK. What absolute BS! Where were the US in WW2, nowhere until Pearl Harbour was bombed. Who supplied most weapons to the IRA to bomb London? The US. And let us go there….. not many agree with Putin but who are the only country to have intentionally targeted another country with a nuke? Yes correct, the US but that is acceptable? Because it ended WW2 quicker, to the detriment of those STILL suffering the after effects now. We pay our own taxes and do certainly not parasite off America. The debate was pointless, trump was far too busy putting Biden down to discuss the Russian invasion.

          • Probably would go thru all pf you, bu ch of whiny babies. Want americans to foot the bill. Defend ypuselves. If you can. Doesn’t look too good for you. Europeans

        • You want to allow rogue countries like Russia and China to bully countries around them, unchallenged? This should never be allowed to stand. This comment is from someone who detests Russia and Russians, but I also think that Ukranians are not too far off. But fair is fair, and Eussia shoukd be pushed back, else Taiwan is next.

        • So; if Putin wants to invade your country, you would let him in without a fight out of fear he might use nukes….?

        • My take as a follower civilian with little say in my world I that Trump is in a love affair with Putin who he admires. By putting on that ludicrous bullying session where Vladimir Zelenskyy couldn’t get a word in Trump and Vance can now claim “well look the man won’t negotiate so we might as well side with Putin” the aim would be to silence Ukraine, help a bankrupt Russia invade totally and grab what he wants from the country.
          Trump has never had any intention of helping Ukraine but we can only hope the Europe and other free nations do t succumb to Trumps Dictatorship in its making or Putins bankrupt Russia. Don’t forget Russia suppresses its own people, has created high unemployment, collapsed economy and raging 21% inflation.
          It’s now time for Europe to man up, wake up and drive this agenda forward or continue to lay down and let Putin do what he has said he will do invade then wipe out all the old eastern block protectorates as well as Finland. I for one even as a pensioner would fight to stop this poor behaviour and thuggish brutality.

          • Trump seems more concerned about getting a paid for helping a democratically elected president and a democratic country. Never before have I heard of American policy being based on capitalism and financial gain.

          • You are so right and I pray that the European countries do not follow the lead of dumbass Trump and America with which I am a proud of American but sadly not so proud of our president.

        • The reality is that common sense people want peace and saving lives on both sides of this tragedy. Zelensky is a racist Nazis/ fool and Trump is not going to let him play him like he played Biden. A cocaine sniffing addicted little runt that got 1.5 million souls are dead because of NATO, and U.S. war mongers and a little arrogant fool Zelensky.

        • These people only seem to oppose Trump by any means without knowing tbe facts. They will reap the consequences of their action.

        • I agree. Maybe we should just let Europe deal with this and sort their own problems out for once, instead of America always then out. Let the two dictators battle it out and see what happens. You imagine Greece sending a delegation to Caesar to demand a bunch of freebies with a cocky attitude? I’m sure their ambassador would be down the well. Wake up people!

        • Ukrainian surrender would lead to another slaughter. Duh! WW3 won’t be Ukraine’s fault – they don’t have the capacity for a World War – it would 100 % be Russia’s fault. But more likely, if Putin orders something like that, he will be deposed.

        • Do we want to show Putin that “if you invade somewhere, we’ll meekly let you take it because we love peace”?

      • Let them suffer, the sooner Russia takes Ukraine the better. The midget clown can scamper off with his loot and we can settle down. Maybe look at disbanding NATO. Well at least let Europe deal with their own problems and being our military and equipment home.

      • Well maybe that fuel company should watch the entire video of the press time at the ovial office. You would see 20 minutes of Zelinski making faces and grimacing while he shows every physical way to show unhappiness. And then he starts trying to pin Trump down on something that is supposed to be agreed to already. Instead he tries some trick to negotiate with Trump on TV. That is little league bs. you never see world leaders being so emotional.
        The Europeans should think about Trumps plan instead of being emotional.. Make the U.S. a partner on the rare earth. Then you have American companies and American workers between Russia and Ukraine. Putin is not going to attack either one. Doesn’t that sound better than what Zalensky wants Trump to say out loud in front of the media.. That hw would send in our airforce to bomb them or send in our Army to push them back over the border. Or maybe whe’ll add more sanctions. How would that work out? Putin would be so happy to work with the U.S. on a ceasefire. Make it obvious that Trump is aligned with Zalenski and the Russians won’t negotiate shit.
        After the way Zalenski acted Friday I would not make any deals at all. Let the Norwegians save him.

      • You do not understand. IF, Trump, the US has a contract for the Rare earth minerals, then the US automatically has a financial interest. In Ukraine, and the US always protects its interest. Russia has no interest in confronting the US directly. Russia needs a Southern ocean port. It already has the Crimea. It will stop there Do you really think that the US is willing to stop its defense of Poland? Stationing in Poland, and protecting our rare earth mineral investment in the Ukraine automatically secures the stopping of the westward expansion of Russia. Putin will not break the cease fire, because he is dealing with Trump, and not Biden, nor Obama. PEACE WILL BE OBTAINED, and Russia can ship through the Southern Port food and goods to the third world countries. Europe, instead of providing boots can provide reconstruction of the remaining Ukraine by reducing the amount of the loan repayments to the European countries. Dick Lugar and Jr senator Obama advanced the tension when they promoted the construction of a Chemical/Biological lab. Doesn’t anybody remember CoVid. Hey European countries, are you ready to accept a Wuhan laboratory in each of your backyards???? YOU Don’t STRANGLE YOUR ADVISARIES!!! The US did that to Japan and cut off their oil supply. And look what the treaty did at the end of World War 1 to Germany- What did that strangle hold of Germany produce. Doesn’t anybody remember the Marshall Plan? Or at the very least, Listen to the song of John Lennon, and truly ‘Imagine’!!! If Reagans could get Gorbochev to ‘Tear Down This Wall,.’ then why do you believe now, ‘That Trust but Verify” will not work today? How is that North and South Korea Parallel line working out? Two advisaries living side by side. We have had a number of Nuclear Agreements that definitely been somwhat breached by the parties involved, but how many Nuclear Wars have we had since Hiroshima and Nagisaki explosions? There are Two nature’s of Humankind that when, Once they become out of balance will eventually decline into chaos and destruction of some sort. These two are, Dominance and Greed. These, will always have the need of review and refinement and, this is what diplomacy and negotiations are all about. Their objective and goal may be simplified into this, Let’s get “The Lion to lay down with the Lamb.” What would Jesus Christ do? Sorry about the spelling, I’m a High school drop out.
        First though, “Give Peace A Chance.”

      • You all complain about Americans but who the fuck do you run too to fund your sorry asses when it suits you and on top of it you let a substantial portion be stolen from you I agree with trump if it wasn’t for the American taxpayer funding your asses you would have already caved and been on your knees with Putins prick in your mouth so like he said show some gratitude we could have just left you to be mouth whores for Russian cock but at least it would stop you from running your fucking mouth with your appreciation you wouldn’t get shit from the U. S.if it were up to me and we don’t fear Russia unlike you bitches you come crying to us for help and then talk shit what a bunch of pussies you are growing some balls and defend yourself don’t ask the U. S. to protect your sorry asses!!!

      • What??? Zelensky made a deal and then tried to reneg on said deal and draft new terms infront of the media so he could strong arm US into a bad deal, Trump did absolutely nothing wrong only people who believe the media propaganda machine think otherwise

    • I feel sorry for the US and their military it is not their fault their president is now supporting a dictator and tyrant. It puts the US in a VERY bad position all their friends will now doubt if the US can be trusted in anything. Trump has single handedly ruined the USA reputation worldwide. I have US friends who must feel shame at what is happening.

        • You’re not very good with math. Over 77,000,000 voted for Trump and the total military is just above 2 million. That’s like 3% is every single one voted for Trump.

        • Actually far from half of them voted for him, something people often forget is the appalling turnout for the presidential vote, so usually a president wins on some 25-30% of the eligible voters

        • Not voter fraud, but a lot of voter suppression. Republicans are outnumbered, they cannot win without making it difficult for others to win. Of course he also had all of Elon Musks money for campaign propaganda and lies.

          • I actually think a lot of Americans didn’t vote because they couldn’t decide which was the worse candidate. Other than massive amounts of money backing them I can’t believe either lot got nominated. If the US founding fathers are looking down on this world, they must be thinking “you know paying tax to King George isn’t so bad so why are we bothering, nah put the kettle on and learn to like Tea !”.

          • There is no voter suppression. More black men, Hispanics, etc voted for Trump. Everybody was tired of all the Democrats lies!

      • A LOT of us are HORRIFIED 🤢 And more than 75 percent of Americans think Putin is not welcome in our politics. Musk either🔥

          • Not voter fraud, but a lot of voter suppression. Republicans are outnumbered, they cannot win without making it difficult for others to vote. Of course he also had all of Elon Musks money for campaign propaganda and lies.

        • 75% are happy with Trump and Musk. We can’t keep going in more debt. At least they are trying to get rid of fraud and waste.

      • I don’t understand why you people in other countries make a nasty comments about our President and Vice-President here in the US. You all don’t know what exactly happening here and what you are all hearing are from bias mainstream medias who cannot see the good things no matter how positive it is.

    • Russia don’t have working nukes, they never maintained them after Soviet Union fell, the cost of maintaining them is more than the entire yearly budget Russia had for it’s entire military force, Naval air force and army. This is why they are trying to build the new Satan ii, but they dont have the people with knowledge to do so right now. I am not afraid of Russia nuking. That’s just one reason why I am not afraid. There is several more reasons like others have pointed out already here.

      • Great another self-appointed military analist adding more garbage to an already saturated Internet with Western propaganda crap like this. If people like Baxter Horn could take their head out of their ass for a few minutes they might realise that Russia has beaten the shit out of Ukraine, NATO and our joke of a union, the EU. And if they did that with nukes that “don’t work” according to our “top analyst Baxter Horn” then God help us if they manage to get them working again..

      • You really want to test it out? These weapons don’t use Oil and filters…. What maintenance…. A single one will get the whole world into destroying each other.
        You need to wake up from your dreams… it wasn’t a knife in back or anything like that…. You can’t keep calling someone criminal and keep saying must be eliminated and at the same time want to have a peace deal with them….

        • You do realise that Europe has nuclear weapons too?

          8 SSBNs that could raze Russia to the ground. Air launched nuclear bombs held by another 5 European NATO members.

          You must try very hard to understand this, but your chum Putin is NOT go8ng to rain down nuclear missiles on Europe, because he knows it would provoke an immediate counter- strike

          It is called MAD – mutually assured destruction
          That is why no country in the world has used nukes in any conflict for 80 years now.

          The fact that Russia has nukes is neither here nor there as he will not be stupid enough to use them.

      • Definitely. US taxpayers are tired of their money being sent to foreign countries. These countries need to support themselves. The free money is no longer available. US taxpayers are 💯 behind Trump.

          • 75% are behind Trump. Our government has grown too big and we need to cut the waste. Maybe your upset because you are one of the ones losing your job or a friend but we can’t go into any more debt.

        • Tough 💩
          You wanted to be the leader, you don’t get to choose to stop, especially when it gets hard or expensive.
          The global sea lanes are yours to enforce.
          Hey, maybe you should start taxing the recipients of the trade and security benefits!
          That would work, yeah?
          I’m sure they’ll all be happy to pay.
          Just don’t forget to give them fair representation!
          We used to have the same job, world security, and we also spent a lot of money on it.
          So we just asked the beneficiaries to pay their fair share.
          I forget how that turned out 🤔
          Oh still, I’m sure they were VERY GRATEFUL for not getting murdered by all those religious nutjobs we were having problems with…

        • Not all taxpayers. I would much rather see my tax dollars go to support Ukraine then to have it go to the Orange Clown to play golf every weekend. Trot off to a Nascar Race or the Super Bowl all the while he thinks School children should not get a free lunch.

        • That’s where you Americans have zero idea about how geopolitics work. The whole reason the US maintains 800 (yes, 800) installations and bases worldwide is to ensure that the US dollar and international trading routes are maintained. The entire reserve currency hinges on global stability and unit of the powerful likeminded democracies. Throw it all away and what’s US got? Just a white people India with zero influence and zero power? But here’s the thing, without the position of global reserve currency, the US economy implodes overnight. Complex thinking, I know, but America doesn’t maintain such a military out of kindness and charity.

        • Baloney, I’m for helping Ukraine and not letting the evil Empire destroy and invade a sovereign country. That is what Christians do. The US would still be British if it weren’t for help from the French

        • What is “pathetic” is that you choose to believe musk with ZERO evidence. Damn near every tangible claim he has made is shown to be false. Meanwhile, he’s cancelling contracts to competitors, firing anyone that regulates or oversees his business, and cutting funds to the VA. This is just another con for money and power and more money. The sheep are cheering the butcher.

      • No it wouldn’t. US forces in Europe are actually surprisingly low, and by closing it’s European Bases the US would soon be finding itself spending much more every time it shoves its nose into the middle east.

        The US maintains it’s forces in Europe because they enable American force projection. (Oh and if “you” stopped “defending” Europe American expenditure wouldn’t go down because the US taxpayer pays for a globally deployable military that can fight in anyone’s back yard, not a Europe focused NATO expeditionary force, but I know, facts are hard).

      • Not really, you don’t actually spend a lot on NATO Europe..You spend an awful lot on nukes, but nobody believes for a second that the USA would respond if Europe suffered a nuclear strike. You spend a lot on Asia Pacific, Israel, Africa, the Middle East, but little of that is to do with NATO Europe. You spend on a lot of things to keep the USA as top military dog dog but, if Ukraine is anything to go by under Trump, it has f-all to do with protecting democracy, it is all to do with furthering the USA’s political and commercial interests.

        With Trump in charge, you are losing respect and allies at a consumate rate of knots. It would be better for all if the US just packed up in Europe amd went back stateside and stopped boring us with your constant whining.

      • Not strictly true unless you demobilise those forces / units presently deployed in Europe and get rid of them. Most of the countries own / pay for the upkeep of the bases (hence RAF Mildenhall and RAF Lakenheath). If you shift them back to US you have to reopen old bases or provide new ones, provide accommodation, schools, medical facilities, pay local taxes etc etc and in US that isn’t cheap.
        It’s also a pretty popular place to be posted as the cost of living is generally lower in UK / EU than US so the Service families can enjoy a better standard of living. For instance a half a dozen Free Range Large Eggs is @ £1.89 (about 2.40 $US) what are you paying ?

        If you don’t believe me just ask a Veteran who has served over here.

        When you think about it the kit, maintenance, salaries are the same regardless of where they are posted but the rest is extra on top.

        I hope that makes sense 👍🏻

    • Eh bit puzzled here. Norway isn’t in the EU last time I looked , also got plenty of it’s own oil and gas .

    • And did this petroleum product supplier holt servicing US war assets when US went on killing spree with Israel in palestine, Iraq, Libya, Aganistan and many other places. Or is this gesture confined to solidarity with European kith and kin ? Meaning the rest of the world matters less to Norway ?

      • Please remember the facts. HAMAS and Hezbollah started the war. It was bleeding obvious what would happen after they butchered Israeli citizens and took people hostage.
        HAMAS and Hezbollah are cowardly mother feckers who hid in tunnels and behind civilians knowing Israeli revenge would be brutal. The people of Gaza paid the price of allowing terrorists to live amongst them .

        • And Gazans VOTED for HAMAS ! Why did Israel go into Gaza and pursue HAMAS ? For the same reason that the Allies crossed the Rhine River and went into Germany in WW II ! To wipe out the agressors ! We didn’t give Germans food and medicine till AFTER they were defeated !

        • True, Hamas knew exactly just how Israel would react – and they would have known this from experience and History – and they still went ahead ! It must be crystal clear that Hamas cares
          absolutely NOTHING for the Palestinian people. Hamas are nothing more than a bunch of cowardly rats who attack defenceless people and then run away and leave the ordinary palestinian people to suffer the consequences !

      • Geographically Norway is thousands of Kilometers from the Middle East,look at a Globe or World Map,it’s coastal area borders the North Atlantic and Artic Oceans

    • There is the old saying…
      UNITED WE STAND…DIVIDED WE FALL I THINK Europe needs to be United as one against Russia’s Dictator what I dont understand is how one man can dictate to a whole Nation that War is a necessary action! Hitler tried it and Failed and the only way to stop this insanity is to cut the Head off the Snake so to speak. Someone in Russia needs to grow some Balls and Eliminate Putin! There is no room in this world for Dictators and the Evil they stand for. Nobody should have that kind of Power. The World dislikes Trump and Vance as they are only showing that they are no better than Putin. Trudeau has destroyed Canada and won’t stop until He is done. The axis of Evil is rearing it’s ugly Head through these people Cut The Heads Off the Snakes and break the Chain! If there is a Higher civilization of beings out there then I prey to the powers that be To intervene and save this World from Evil and Mass extinction!

    • Norway boycotting the US, that’s the joke. What has Norway done for Ukraine? …. When they step up and start paying their own bills for security and stop biting the hand that protects them, then they might begin to have a little say. Until then shut up and stop complaining like the spoiled child you are. The US is just starting to stand up again after the Biden kneel down, you want our support, step up and pay for it.

    • Thing is the bulk of my Kiwi friends are very disappointed with the current US leadership which they see as like Putin the current iteration of fascist Nazi’s.

    • Exactly. I believe the same. Trump is a businessman by his own admission, he said quite categorically that America wouldn’t help unless Ukraine signed ‘the deal’. Geopolitics isn’t just about business, it includes the safety, security, freedom, harmony and peace of ALL countries. Having looked through a lot of comments on this subject it is clear that everyone has their own opinions and suggestions. But that’s what freedom of speech and democracy is all about isn’t it?
      When Hitler invaded back in 1939 Germany had been upscaling its military war production for several years, whilst the rest of Europe hadn’t, or had ignored the obvious signs. Despite talks and treaties with countries, Hitler reneged on every single one and Putin appears to be trying to follow in his footsteps and path to world domination.If there is an escalation of war in Europe the effects will have affects on the American continent through fallout of nuclear blasts, loss of trade, loss of allies, loss of ……..well, lots of things. Zelensky is correct, and Trump accusing him of ‘dictating how we will feel’ and ‘not holding any cards’ was comical; Zelensky just pointed out a reality, and that’s what Vance and Trump didn’t want the American people to hear……bad for the Musk/Trump conglomerates.
      Does the fact that Hitler made all his SS sign an oath of alallegiances o him personally ring any alarm bells with the American administration, and the American agencies?

    • For more than half century we been protecting Europe in the expense of American tax payers. We need to bring ourselves back home and protect those who really needed our support, our true allies who are truly grateful like Israel, Britain, Japan, SoKor, the ASEAN alliance. We have wasted enough lives and money on this theater twice in a cèntury already only to be taken back to the same conflicting issues. They’re good at this according to histories. The sleeping giant need to take a nap and let them sort this out themselves. Let Europe burn themselves!

    • The EU never called Zolinsky a dictator or accused him of starting the war. Also the EU never publicly berated President Zolinsky. The denial of fuel to US warships is in response to Trump committing the acts I mentioned above.

    • I think Norway should demand to buy America as they got there first … its a solution … ps read the article its NOT the Norwegian govt but a Norwegian company with a NATO contract who have the perfect right to refuse to refuel Americans as they dismantle NATO in front of our eyes …. I agree with Surly

    • kind of little childish if he asked me all over just not liking a certain individual you crane ain't nothing but a bunch of neo-nazis anyway kind of little childish if he asked me all over just not liking a certain individual you crane ain't nothing but a bunch of neo-nazis anyway

      Who really needs those foreign countries so I’m pretty sure the United States is given Norwegian lots of funds so guess what cut all funds to Norwegian cut all food supplies to them and everything that the US gives to them also who cares if it’s a private owned company kind of little childish if he asked me all over just not liking a certain individual you crane ain’t nothing but a bunch of neo-nazis anyway

        • This Greg is a russian troll supporting the trump and vance premeditated ambush, that didn’t go so well for those two Putin/american recent entrants in to the world’s axis of evil. Greg is a Backstabber along with them.

          • Mark, please do pull out of Europe. The actual percentage of the US defence budget spent on NATO is not any mega sum. Europe can more than replace it.

            That will spare us all the aggro of dealing with the egotistical, erratic incumbent in the White House and his MAGA gang, who have very little to contribute to any informed debate on defence.or anything else.

            Bye now, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

      • I feel sorry for the US and their military it is not their fault their president is now supporting a dictator and tyrant. It puts the US in a VERY bad position all their friends will now doubt if the US can be trusted in anything. Trump has single handedly ruined the USA reputation worldwide. I have US friends who must feel shame at what is happening.

        • I would project my wifes country if I too became president.
          Look how beautiful she’s Melanija Knavs and now Melanie Trump.

          Now their Children are torn between 2 lover’s.

          Good luck to all who kisses the hand of the second Hitler..

        • Shame… it must be difficult for you to deal with strength. America’s friends… ? You mean the ones America has been supporting for the last 80 yrs? Those friends would be under a different flag if the US hadn’t been there, those friends? The US should stop supporting its friends and see how friendly they are. When those same friends come back on bended knee due to Russia and China teaching new deep throating methods on how society works, you’ll have a better understanding of who supports who.

          • I think you need to have a look at the force structure of NATO during the Cold War, the vast majority of NATO’s ground forces where not American (and still aren’t to this day, ENATO has considerably more active duty personnel than the US does).

      • Oh dear Greg, missing a few braincells are we?

        But then I know Russians do struggle with “Who started what” since you all seem unable to grasp that by invading ukraine you started the war.

        • Why is there such a grey area? A powerfull aggressor invaded its neighbour.So The American
          president says the aggressed is responsible for
          bringing the world to the brink of world war three.
          Trumps new besty is just sitting back and smiling at the chaos HIS new mate is creating. Perhaps he too thinks it all makes good television .

  4. Good on them 100% agree. What we all witnessed yesterday was an absolute disgrace

    It make me sick that Trump has been given a second State visit. Fawning over a long dead special relationship (that arguably never existed). Placating bullies never turns out well. JD Vance shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near.

    The USA has lost its way. Time to rearm and stand firm with Europe & Ukraine.

    • Nonsense. Zelensky was a petulant child who had not one clue how to be deferential to those he needed something from.

      • Ukraine does need something from the US – security guarantees.

        What it doesn’t need is to be extorted for it’s minerals without those security guarantees.

        • Right ! EU and France should be in there first to mine the resources, but wait , Russia wouldn’t have a problem with kicking them out of there.

          • How the hell does anybody know there is anything there? It’s all blue sky. It sure upset a lot of tables in a hurry.

      • You must be a BRAINDEAD ZOMBI or just a total ASSHOLE. Go kiss putins ass then stick your head up trumps ass, you TOSSER

      • Deferential? Trump is not a king or potentate, we do not ‘defer” to him or kiss the ring.

        The complete disrespect shown to the President of Ukraine by Trump and his 2ic was rude, ill-mannered and unacceptable. He should have got up, said thank you and walked out.

        Trump is just an elected head of state. There are 194 of them on the planet. Even the worst ones like Putin know how to behave correctly in public. Trump and Vance need to go back to school and learn how to conduct themselves in a more dignified manner. Meeting Trump and gang is like meeting a mafia godfather amd his henchmen. Wherever did he learn that I wonder…

    • I think all counties in NATO should stop supporting any American force fighting a war in middle east and put all these forces available to support Ukraine and refuse any help to Trump in his future wars and see how good they are without NATO help especially British Forces not helping him and let him come begging to us because Europe is bigger than USA

      • bro… Europe has immigration issues… you are in no position to fight anyone when your enemy is within. Also, you haven’t made a 5th generation fighter let alone a 6th… you don’t even know what a satellite is… you are all basically cavemen when it comes to technology.. what has Europe even made besides cars, watches, and pens… that’s about your limit… stop it and let the adults handle things.

        • I’m ashamed to be American. Your ignorance of European history and culture is exactly what I’d expect from a typical American bumpkin.

        • That’s the most obnoxious thing to say when the majority of your smart people are actually green-card immigrated people doing their PHDs in your US Universities. You “native” US Americans are not the ones that are developing AI, self-driving cars, complex systems. Foreigners are. You have never taken a peek into Silicon Valley, right? You are uninformed and blurt out assumptions like a child and then say “let the adults handle things.”. Yeah, steve, you’re right. Let the adults handle things, the ones that actually have a clue of numbers & the reality of US education systems. 😉 You are a representative of the stereotype of the uneducated, uninformed and presumptuous classical US citizen. Also, take a look at supply chains, my friend. The amount of complex parts coming from Europe and the amount of research coming from Europe which your US economy and innovations are built on, is immense. Of course you cannot know, because you never have contributed to it. You never could. Your comparisons are blown into the wind.

          • There are plenty of “native” US Americans working at Tesla and SpaceX if you cared to look. Over 60% of software engineers are U.S. citizens and half of all software engineers are white.

            On terms of AI look at people like Jeff Dean (Google), Greg Brockman (OpenAI) and many, many more.

          • You tell ’em Nicolas. European Union levied over forty eight billion euros against United States as of February. European Union’s Commission said they targeted tariffs produced in those American states because they were states that supported Trump. And Europeans always claimed America should not be meddling in Europe’s affairs. Imagine that, and who was that Chris Steele guy? Oh yeah he was a retired Brit from MI6. Wrote a dossier about something and the Clinton gang and DNC paid him for it. Trump’s gotta pay the bills. Meanwhile, Europe better put on their big boy pants since Trump’s giving them what they want. Specifically, Yankee went home.

        • That’s the most obnoxious thing to say when the majority of your smart people are actually green-card immigrated people doing their PHDs in your US Universities. You “native” US Americans are not the ones that are developing AI, self-driving cars, complex systems. Foreigners are. You have never taken a peek into Silicon Valley, right? You are uninformed and blurt out assumptions like a child and then say “let the adults handle things.”. Yeah, steve, you’re right. Let the adults handle things, the ones that actually have a clue of numbers & the reality of US education systems. 😉 You are a representative of the stereotype of the uneducated, uninformed and presumptuous classical US citizen. Also, take a look at supply chains, my friend. The amount of complex parts coming from Europe and the amount of research coming from Europe which your US economy and innovations are built on, is immense. Of course you cannot know, because you never have contributed to it. You never could. Your comparisons are blown into the wind.

        • That’s the most obnoxious thing to say when the majority of your smart people are actually green-card immigrated people doing their PHDs in your US Universities. You “native” US Americans are not the ones that are developing AI, self-driving cars, complex systems. Foreigners are. You have never taken a peek into Silicon Valley, right? You are uninformed and blurt out assumptions like a child and then say “let the adults handle things.”. Yeah, steve, you’re right. Let the adults handle things, the ones that actually have a clue of numbers & the reality of US education systems. 😉 You are a representative of the stereotype of the uneducated, uninformed and presumptuous classical US citizen. Also, take a look at supply chains, my friend. The amount of complex parts coming from Europe and the amount of research coming from Europe which your US economy and innovations are built on, is immense. Of course you cannot know, because you never have contributed to it. You never could. Your comparisons are blown into the wind.

        • @steve
          That’s the most obnoxious thing to say when the majority of your smart people are actually green-card immigrated people doing their PHDs in your US Universities. You “native” US Americans are not the ones that are developing AI, self-driving cars, complex systems. Foreigners are. You have never taken a peek into Silicon Valley, right? You are uninformed and blurt out assumptions like a child and then say “let the adults handle things.”. Yeah, steve, you’re right. Let the adults handle things, the ones that actually have a clue of numbers & the reality of US education systems. 😉 You are a representative of the stereotype of the uneducated, uninformed and presumptuous classical US citizen. Also, take a look at supply chains, my friend. The amount of complex parts coming from Europe and the amount of research coming from Europe which your US economy and innovations are built on, is immense. Of course you cannot know, because you never have contributed to it. You never could. Your comparisons are blown into the wind.

        • Wow, your as delusional as Trump and Vance. European countries was developing new technology while the USA was learning to tie it’s own shoe laces.
          Most of the states technology is built off the back of the rest of the worlds inventions and research. The USA has only even existed for about 250 years. The discoveries and groundwork leading to most modern technology was well on its way before the USA even joined the party.

        • Seems like European Ukrainians are very good about destroying Russian oil refineries with drones. Also, Russian tanks and other AFV are not doing a very good job standing up over the the last three years to European Ukrainian weapons. Russians can’t even protect their Motherlands borders in Kursk nor even drive Ukraine out of Kherson Oblast, Zaporizhzhia, Luhansk and Donetsk after they were driven out of Kharkiv, Kherson city, Bucha and Hostomel back in 2022.

        • Clown, just about every technological advance you have was invented in places other than the US, wouldn’t expect a yank to get that given that most of you get your historical knowledge from Hollywood film scripts, utterly clueless inbred twats!

          • Damned straight! You tell ’em Shane Horsfall. Europe don’t need no damned Americans they can stick their money up their arses and stay home. So we are. Sweet! You should be cheering.

        • I’m surprised you have internet in your trailer park, maga boy, I’ve heard your public infrastructure was in taters.

      • Buddy, the US can handle itself even without it’s Ally. The size of Europe being bigger doesn’t help them. If that’s the case, Europe won’t even need the US to defend itself. While Europe needs the US help because they have access to many military hardware that is unavailable to European. Just look at Libya intervention back in 2011, the US is taking a back role with supports while the UK and France takes the leading role. It’s fails miserably and the US have to take the leading role. Look, I support Ukraine and disgusted at how Zelensky was treated but please don’t try to insult America when Europe can’t even get it shit together. Some European countries even still buying Russian oil so wtf is that??

        • Europe isn’t just bigger. Keep telling yourself that the US is self-sustainable. It is not. Especially when it comes to education.

          • Yep, you’re so right. Education is so limited in America, especially history and geography. And what are they doing now – banning books. Gees.

      • That means you don’t want peace to reign in the region. Enough of all this Russia this, Russia that. The USA dropped atomic bomb in Japan so why shouldn’t Russia dropped nuke on Ukraine if they pushed him to the wall? Can Ukraine stand Russia in battle? Putin is fighting with the whole West and the US but it’s going to be over soon.

      • Putin is not going g to withdraw from Ukraine. Norway move will just gasten the demise of Nato. What don’t you peooke understand. America is in heavy debt cannot afford wars. This is Bidens war nothing to wirh Trump. So Trump can easily say pull warships from Norway and any military base there. Russia is not an enemy of America so Riropeans can carry on screaming. Think Trump is stupid to go to war with Russia.

        • Janice, best if USA pulls out of NAztO and stays home. You have enough social, cultural and political problems to worry about in the USA. We in Europe will sort things out without your dubious help, continual whining and ignorant, ill-founded lectures from impertinent Vance.and his MAGA gang.

    • Bigger ramifications to come from this for the US. There was a thread on here recently about the new Norwegian Frigate procurement. I think the US defacto pulled out of that. Wall Street may well see defence companies take a hit tomorrow. Wider still who will trust the US going forward. America could find itself a pariah. Will the US leave NATO. Will Europe want them to leave. The loss of bases in Souda bay, Rota, Germany, Italy. Will have an effect. Diego Garcia, Greenland, Iceland could all go.
      Is this a return to Splendid Isolation.

      • Tomorrow? After Hesgeths Munich speech US defence companies took a 25% hit to their stock prices (by comparison Rheinmetal gained 33%). It was already happening before trump and vances stunt.

  5. Well done 2 them hope other companies and governments join the stance against the American administration. They are bullying the wrong people. Their friends there allies. They should be a beacon of light 4 freedom.

  6. Well now, there’s a statement. I can’t disagree though. In fact well done.
    🧨🇳🇴 🇬🇧🙃🕳️
    Btth.

  7. Perhaps Norway can do without all that pre positioned American equipment. The US Brigade scheduled to go to Norway in a conflict. This is great news as it will save the American taxpayer money.

    • Phil, each European country pays for their US presence.
      If these boys go home, they either continue to get paid – now solely on the US taxpayer dime – or they get retired and then become unemployed.
      It won’t save the USAmerican taxpayer anything, it’ll be better for European countries because they’ll spend their money on indigenous defence rather than on bought in defence.
      But hey, if that’s what you want, go for it, it’s about time…

      • Nobody pays for their US presence.

        That’s how Donald got elected. It’s patently true Europe is freeloading to pump up its social benefits.

    • It’s one private company, you dim bulb!

      Not the Norwegian Government.

      I know it’s hard to tell the difference now that the techbros are so intertwined with the US government.

    • Nothing I can say , I think it’s all been said, don’t you all, all this in fighting , not good when Trump can’t get his own way , he throws his trainset around, and as for his side kick Vance well enough said , and Musk should stay out of politics he is dangerous as well

    • Geography is not your Strong suit is it Phil?

      Also it will not save the US taxpayer money, as the MEB exists whether it goes to Norway in War or not, but facts are hard I get it.

  9. I think zelensky has been standing up for the free world since he came to power! He has been a puppet in the east Vs west “cold war”! We who have a brain, please exclude Trump and most of his team, know that this Ukraine war with Russia is simply to make sure that the west takes over Russia! There is no more Russia, the problem is that they have a lot of nuclear weapons and a crazy man as president that cannot be assassinated by any foreign country! I honestly think that Ukraine has been fed weapons and munitions at a slow pace on purpose, just to create the impression that the Russians are not as weak as they actually are. If Ukraine was allowed to use “long” range weapons on Russian soil a year ago, this war would look very different! Also, China, supplies both sides of the conflict… What do we need to think about that? This war is about money and all earth derived products! It is not about NATO or Religion or Language…. Money, money, 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

    • Do you think if they supply Russia weapons too, the war would have ended long time ago. Let’s see who wins the war. If USA should abandoned NATO today, Russia will win and end the war on Ukraine tomorrow. Instead for you to orchestrate for peace to reign in the region, you’re calling for more ammunition to be supplied to Ukraine. How I wish the war can come to your doorstep and you see what war is.

      • I do not wish for war! And I do not think it is a good idea to give weapons to a country that started a full invasion on another country…. Russia should pay for all Ukrainian rebuild and all munitions given to Ukraine! I still believe this was a plot to destroy Russia and take over their land! Between the Chinese and the West, I’m just not sure who started it

  10. I think zelensky has been standing up for the free world since he came to power! He has been a puppet in the east Vs west “cold war”! We who have a brain, please exclude Trump and most of his team, know that this Ukraine war with Russia is simply to make sure that the west takes over Russia! There is no more Russia, the problem is that they have a lot of nuclear weapons and a crazy man as president that cannot be assassinated by any foreign country! I honestly think that Ukraine has been fed weapons and munitions at a slow pace on purpose, just to create the impression that the Russians are not as weak as they actually are. If Ukraine had been allowed to use “long” range weapons on Russian soil a year ago, this war would look very different! Also, China, supplies both sides of the conflict… What do we need to think about that? This war is about money and all earth derived products! It is not about NATO or Religion or Language…. Money, money, 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

  11. Surely a nato country can’t tell another nato country they aren’t going to resupply their defense force. Is Haltbakk Bunkers even a major suppler in Norway? Do they even supply us ships on any meaningful level? Seems like posturing and at the expense of Norway credibility.

    • Did you actually read the article?

      A PRIVATE company has refused to resupply US military forces. Nothing to do with Norwegian government.

      Do you want Norway to force a private company to comply? Because many Americans from the past 60-70 years would have taken issue with that, called it communism.

      • A lot of contractors out there and it’s a big ocean. Generators take a bit of fuel and sometimes company execs make bad decisions. Tomorrow still comes with or without Ukraine or Russia or a DoD contractor for United States. Failing to deliver on a contract, failing to perform on a contract… the list goes on.

    • Norway has 3 replenishment oilers of various sizes and 4 frigates.
      I think it’s pretty safe to say most of the refueling they do is of allied warships.

  12. Keep giving the Trump/Musk regime this treatment. We cannot let them reach maximum strength and Americans are not hurting enough yet to rise up in mass, since our government is feckless to stop them. Kick us out of Europe, especially our military, because our democracy is dead, and the new regime has shown that they are now an axis power. There are those of us in America trying to fight back and regain our government and it is at the unviolent stage [that we hope will be effective because we don’t want to go to the next stage]. Please keep helping Ukraine.

    • What I see happening is – US won’t have a military. They leave in droves when they see what DOGE has done to VA. Who wants to look forward to a future in US after risking their lives for the US.

  13. After duding Ukraine out of its nuclear weapons, Bill Clinton has a lot of blood on his hands, Trump does not honour international treaties made by former presidents, whilst expecting foreign governments to make deals with him, which future presidents will ignore or pervert as it suits them. World leaders making deals for generations to come is the problem. We need to respect previous treaties, their intent,, not just a new deliberate misinterpretation of the exact wording, such as the annex to the nuclear non proliferation treaty, signed in Budapest.

  14. These are European leaders and European companies like this right now:

    “The American people are an enemy because they didn’t pledge more billions to one single nation”.

    After how much the U.S., the American people, have provided to European nations, NATO, et al and then these things start happening just because Ukraine won’t be getting more money? It is not the USA being the bad ally here.

    • The only country that has ever called NATO for help was the US, which dragged Europe into a 20 year sandbox war.

      So maybe we should demand reperations from the US taxpayer then?

      • Dem,I agree the hypocrisy is unbelievable. Trump’s administration does not stand for freedom. He represents matchbox ideals. They have broken past accords and they risk alienating themselves. He is not making US great again and there are question marks about who he serves.

      • Europe wouldn’t have been existed without american intervention in WW II and secondly Ucraine is an invented country on stolen land. All Europe is leaded by impotent and imbecile politicians. They transformed Europe into a circus and whoever doesn’t share their disastrous, full of sh.t leftist ideology are not good. Zelensky is just another entitled imbecil who will sacrifice his country and his citizens for some stupid and out of political context ideas. And don’t forget that not only americans saved Europe but Russia too !

        • George, American intervention in WWII only occurred AFTER the 3rd Reich declared War on the USA, so it’s hardly American altruism.

          Secondly the country is spelled Ukraine, and it is not more invented than any other country, in fact it predates Russia.

          Thirdly Russia didn’t exist in 1940, but the Soviet Union helped the Nazi’s in 39 and 40, so again, I don’t feel particularly indebted to them, especially given their forcible annexation of multiple free European Nations, and occupation of Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary etc. (Oh and the Soviet Union includes Ukraine, the provided some of the best Soviet formations in 42-45, so even if I was feeling like we owned the Soviets anything, it would apply equally to Ukraine.)

          Repeating this for the morons (probably called George) in the back

          RUSSIA. IS. NOT. THE. SOVIET. UNION.

    • Russia is the enemy. They have over 1500 nukes pointed at everyone I love. They launch cyber attacks on our critical infrastructure daily. They poison and assassinate people on my soil.

      Only cowards think we should capitulate to this invading genocidal maniac.

  15. Americans are the most stupid people on earth. They knew very well how bigoted and crazy the gangster, Trump is and they put him in office to denigrade the office of the presidency. Trump is scared of Putin who has something on him. He helped him to power in 2016. Elon helped him to stay out of jail and became the defacto president. There is a lot of crsp going on here. Trump is just a bully, a gangster, racist0 and an sob.

  17. If the Europe is so powerful let’s see if you can take Russia all on your own when we are distracted by China taking Taiwan in the near future.

    Russia was willing to sacrifice 27 million people in WW2. They haven’t even reached a million yet. Why do you think Poland is so worried. They know they are next.

    The US will pull out of Nato this year and Russian will cease attacking Ukraine. Then Russia will attack Europe as soon as China invades Taiwan. Europe will fall in under a year, Russia will use tactical nukes on the UK and neutralize them.

    Turkey will turn on Nato and join an alliance with Iran and attack Israel. North Korea will invade and take South Korea.

    The US will use nuclear weapons at sea on the Chinese fleet decimating them. China will withdraw but North Korea will hit Japan with nukes in retaliation for war crimes in WW2.

    At least that’s how it turned out when I was there. So I came back for some peace and quiet before things get crazy.

    • Clown, just about every technological advance you have was invented in places other than the US, wouldn’t expect a yank to get that given that most of you get your historical knowledge from Hollywood film scripts, utterly clueless inbred twats!

  18. This is Trump getting back at Zenensķy for refusing to dig dirt on Joe and Hunter Biden. He is very vindictive and never forgets

    • Zelensky and Keir were actively campaigning for the democrat party. Trump is supposed to just let that ride? What is foreign election interference?????

      • Zelensky visited a factory that was making ammunition to say “thank you.”
        The Republicans openly endorsed the AfD.

        Yeah I’m not sure you can cry about election interference anymore.

        • Zelensky Campaigned in Pennsylvania in September of 2024, the most critical US swing state.

          Keep in mind a phone call with Zelensky is why trump got “impeached” the first time. Zelensky sat back and said nothing to help him. Z man hitched his wagon to a sinking ship, tons of obama-democrats are going to get prosecuted and end up in jail. Just last week you had Victoria Nuland violating the Logan act. It’s going to be a wild ride.

          Probably preaching to the choir as the UK intel services pumped the Steel dossier, which was also completely fake.

          • And the Republicans haven’t “Endorsed” the AfD. You’ll need to provide some official communications to back that up.

  19. Virtually every single commentator on this article is brand new. Either that or they are abusing the system to comment under different names.

    • And you were taking issue with the idea of Trolls the other day?
      Here we are. This thread is gone.

      • My issue was entirely right. That person was calling another poster a Troll because his opinion differed. These latest names are not Trolls as such but a reflection of the poor control this site has over it’s management of member ID.
        It’s been the same for years, I took a hit getting the Down Vote Feature removed and several hits later.

        Yet It’s worse now than It’s ever been.

        P Walsh.

  21. Hello, the comments here are very interesting. One thing to keep in mind is that the reactionary forces have declared the fifth generation war also called cognitive warfare to the world population. Nothing is lost if you identify who the adversary is and apply a strategy that values the we and create community because without that we are lost. We are not lost, history can teach us a lot.

  22. The commentary on this thread is truly unhinged. Some people need to have a cup of tea, a bex powder and a little lie down.

  23. Best news I heard this week, Well done to that Norwegian company, the US doesn’t want NATO, so European governments could help by kicking all yanks out of their bases in Europe as there never going to be needed whilst that braindead moron is in charge.

  26. America has no Rare Earth Minerals, China has stopped supplying them to the USA. Trump was needing the Ukraine deal for that reason. Why do think he suggested taking Greenland??
    Trump wants to be a dictator. He said if you vote for him you won’t have to vote again. Has also commented on doing a 3rd term.
    Trump is also firing anyone who won’t pick his boots and filling those positions with people who will. He’s also banned certain media from Whitehouse media briefings that are not of the same opinion. He is going to start and take control everything you see and hear, just like Russia, North Korea etc. It’s another Hitler on the rise. Best of luck with that.

    • Everybody is all acting tough until someone drops a nuke. I heard someone say he won’t use it. It’s okay. So you think Russia created nukes for fun, right? So you guys think fighting it all the way is the solution? It’s fine. Let’s see how it all plays out.
      The US should stay out of it. Let Europe fight their war since they don’t want to negotiate

  27. People are forgetting how we ended up where we are. After the destruction of the Soviet Union by the West, disintegrating into a multitude of new nations, Russia remained the only big portion standing. NATO with the US leading wanted even to come after Russia by bringing its forces in countries neighbouring it. It was a matter of time before Russia fell itself under the hegemonic ambition of NATO. Should it be blamed at being preventive instead of waiting for a probable future fate? No.

    • That is total bullshit even for the right wing trolls that normally dominate the comments here. Please be Russian.

  28. The backlash against the MAGA TRUMP regime allying itself with Putin and setting Zelensky up like that!!
    And its only the beginning…
    The US screwed up big time and caused Europe to wake up

    Big things are about to happen…goodbye USA

  29. Candidly if the USN aren’t able to receive the necessary logistical support they shouldn’t sail in these waters. I assume the nation of Norway would prefer to keep USN presence as a continued deterrence however.

  34. It’s just a other mouth karate in the kindergarten.
    Hehe. Look like every body is turshty for money and power. If not get it then turshty for more food. I si the situation can be turn around from pursuer to pursued. Why everybody care so much. How about Irak and Libya? No one cares so much about that war. Anyway is going to be world war 3. If Europe unable to come down. Now is no Hitler. Now is only one dictator with eu alloys. Then Russa and America come to a friend when battel is ends.

  35. It’s just a other mouth karate in the kindergarten.
    Hehe. Look like every body is turshty for money and power. If not get it then turshty for more bood. I si the situation can be turn around from pursuer to pursued. Why everybody care so much. How about Irak and Libya? No one cares so much about that war. Anyway is going to be world war 3. If Europe unable to come down. Now is no Hitler. Now is only one dictator with eu allys. Then Russa and America come to a friend when battel is ends.

  36. You Euopeans are so superior and condescending towards the USA when you don’t need us. Well, your free ride may be over soon. There is growing sentiment here to leave NATO (and the USELESS UN) due to YOUR behavior towards US. We are sick and tired of your sanctimonious attitude and freeloader mentality. We have no obligation to Ukraine. Joe Biden gave Ukraine a blank check of unsecured, untracked billions. The American people are tired of being taxed to death to fund foreign wars. We are running up trilllions in debt paying for endless wars and climate hysteria. We would like actually use our money to help our people. Your socialist dogma is polluting our schools snd colleges. Gender dysphoria is not treated, it is encouraged and celebrated. You can start paying the freight for your own defense and you can fund all of your left wing boondoggles. Most of us love Europe, your history, and your culture, however your open borders, political descent into socialism and the globalist climate cult has us thinking our cultures are diverging. Your countries will soon be Muslim majority and your wonderful cultures will be displaced. You better wake up and stop throwing stones. The American people have had it. We know you don’t like Trump, and we don’t give a rats ass about it. He is the first real leader we have had president for decades. He is the president of the USA , not the world. His job is to protect the USA and her wonderful, generous, free people. Get used to it.

  37. You Euopeans are so superior and condescending towards the USA when you don’t need us. Well, your free ride may be over soon. There is growing sentiment here to leave NATO (and the USELESS UN) due to YOUR behavior towards US. We are sick and tired of your sanctimonious attitude and freeloader mentality. We have no obligation to Ukraine. Joe Biden gave Ukraine a blank check of unsecured, untracked billions. The American people are tired of being taxed to death to fund foreign wars. We are running up trilllions in debt paying for endless wars and climate hysteria. We would like actually use our money to help our people. Your socialist dogma is polluting our schools and colleges. Gender dysphoria is not treated, it is encouraged and celebrated. You can start paying the freight for your own defense and you can fund all of your left wing boondoggles. Most of us love Europe, your history, and your culture, however your open borders, political descent into socialism and the globalist climate cult has us thinking our cultures are diverging. Your countries will soon be Muslim majority and your wonderful cultures will be displaced. You better wake up and stop throwing stones. The American people have had it. We know you don’t like Trump, and we don’t give a rats ass about it. He is the first real leader we have had president for decades. He is the president of the USA , not the world. His job is to protect the USA and her wonderful, generous, free people. Get used to it.

  38. It’s just a other mouth karate in the kindergarten.
    Hehe. Look like every body is turshty for money and power. If not get it then turshty for more bood. I si the situation can be turn around from pursuer to pursued. Why everybody care so much. Or just little europe run out opportunity and options? Or that bad is the economy here un Eu .Just cant hide any more so we need distraction?How about Irak and Libya? No one cares so much about that war. Anyway is going to be world war 3. If Europe unable to come down. Now is no Hitler. Now is only one dictator with eu allys. Then Russa and America come to a friend when battel is ends.

  39. US will just not deploy to Norway, it save us money. Thank you, but payback is a bitc$ they better not get mad when their Starlink and F35 data updates stop.

  41. This is where you Americans have zero idea about how geopolitics work. The whole reason the US maintains 800 (yes, 800) installations and bases worldwide is to ensure that the US dollar and international trading routes are maintained. The entire reserve currency hinges on global stability and unit of the powerful likeminded democracies. Throw it all away and what’s US got? Just a white people India with zero influence and zero power? But here’s the thing, without the position of global reserve currency, the US economy implodes overnight. Complex thinking, I know, but America doesn’t maintain such a military out of kindness and charity.

    • What US trading routes? The US ran a 1.3 trillion dollar trade deficit last year. You people truly are clueless clowns.

  42. The new dictator of the USA is an ignorant loud mouth extremely foul mouthed rude ingrate who is in putins pocket.
    America beware of where he is taking you.
    As for all true blooded British people who really care, I say “Slava Ukraina“ ✊🏻 we are with you.

  43. The Americans forget an other few things, Europe buy’s a lot of American made war material, where would America sell this if Europe stops buying this millions of unemployed Americans, will loose their jobs, you live in a Global economy, most Americans do not realize there is a world outside of them, Tesla’s sales have already dropped 45% in Europe, but EV sales are 37% up, start thinking, more and more people outside the US, are stopping buying made in US product, look at your grocery products prices are rising dramatically, but Trump promised to bring them down, learn to appreciate the world outside the US or you will be on your own, whit nobody to sell too, and everything coming in is taxed to the max, and you the American consumer is going to pay,

    • Trade goes both ways. With Trump, now tariffs will go both ways. Reciprocal tariffs will prevail and the real cost of collecting enough to easily hand out for free to support conflict will be revealed. America will decide if a conflict needs to be dealt with in another way or more directly.

  44. ‘JUST STOP (heavy) OIL’

    The irony of this action is clearly lost on the CEO of this fuel oil company 🙄
    But I’m sure he will also be sending himself and his fellow directors to the front line in Ukraine to keep up the fighting 🤔🙄
    Yeah of course he will, NOT.

    Personally I’m also shocked at the complete lack of diversity, equality and inclusion on the front lines of both Ukraine and Russia 🤔
    Shouldn’t all the usually very vocal on this issue leftist pearl clutchers be doing all than can to address this issue 😉

    • Actually, it has been noted that Ukrainian women (and other minorities) have been signing up to protect their homeland. So maybe go and be shocked somewhere else.

      • Yeah that’s why they’re conscripting people to fight on the front lines right now did you even watch the interview between Trump and zaleski I think you should be surprised more often….

  45. Time to put tariffs on Norway, cut this company off from the head down. History people , which most of you don’t know , why is Russia doing this , because the lies told by the nato countries in deal they signed , I would do the same thing if people did this to our country .

    • The voters demand DOGE, they applaud making people realize that we do get to choose when to stop handing out money, and if and how we will participate in further investment in such conflicts. DNC has completely gone off the deep end. There is not one Trump voter that can pretend this was not a campaign promise. Zalinski knew he needed to commit financially to one side or the other and stop pretending to remain a needy victim. He will soon if he has not already. Soon his hand will be revealed.

    • Speaking of lies, “the lies told by the nato countries in deal they signed”

      The question of whether the U.S. or NATO promised not to expand eastward after the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 is a subject of historical debate. The short answer is that there was no formal treaty or written agreement barring NATO expansion, but there were diplomatic discussions in the early 1990s that have been interpreted differently by various parties.

      Key Points of the Debate:
      Verbal Assurances in 1990
      In early 1990, during negotiations over German reunification, U.S. Secretary of State James Baker and other Western officials discussed NATO’s future with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev.
      Baker famously said NATO would move “not one inch eastward” in the context of whether NATO forces would be stationed in East Germany after reunification.
      This was part of discussions around reassuring the Soviet Union that a unified Germany in NATO would not threaten its security.
      However, this was not a formal agreement, and later clarifications showed that Baker was referring specifically to Germany, not broader Eastern Europe.

      Gorbachev’s Own Admission
      In a 2014 interview, Gorbachev himself stated:
      “The topic of ‘NATO expansion’ was not discussed at all, and it wasn’t brought up in those years. Another issue we discussed was how NATO’s military structures would not advance into the former GDR territory after German reunification.”
      This suggests that while there were assurances about Germany, there was no explicit promise regarding Eastern Europe.

      1993-1994 U.S. Policy Shift
      By the mid-1990s, U.S. policy shifted toward actively supporting NATO enlargement.
      President Bill Clinton and other Western leaders saw NATO expansion as a way to stabilize former Soviet bloc countries and prevent a power vacuum in Central and Eastern Europe.

      NATO’s Open-Door Policy
      NATO’s official stance has always been that nations are free to apply for membership, and no formal agreement was made restricting this.
      Several Eastern European countries (e.g., Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary) sought NATO membership to secure their independence from Russia.

      Russia’s Viewpoint
      Many Russian officials, including Vladimir Putin, argue that NATO expansion violated the “spirit” of early 1990s discussions.
      They see NATO’s movement eastward as a betrayal of Cold War-era understandings, even if no formal commitment was made.

      Conclusion:
      There was no binding treaty or written agreement preventing NATO expansion. However, there were diplomatic conversations in 1990 where Western leaders made statements that some later interpreted as assurances. The U.S. and NATO, however, never legally committed to halting expansion, and by the mid-1990s, NATO enlargement became official policy.
      The issue remains a central part of Russian-Western tensions, as Russia continues to claim NATO expansion was a broken promise, while NATO insists that sovereign nations have the right to choose their alliances.

      Oh – and while this statement was not in a treaty, there was a diplomatic memorandum (not quite a treaty either, but one healthy jump past a “statement made in passing”), SIGNED by Russia, promising not to invade Ukraine, the Budapest Memorandum. The signatories pledged to respect Ukraine’s independence and sovereignty within its then existing borders and refrain from the threat or use of force against Ukraine.
      Putin violated that TWICE – once in 2014 and then again in 2022.

      So that claim is not only misleading, it is countered by a stronger counterclaim in which PUTIN is the party at fault.
      Of course, misleading claims are a hallmark of propaganda. Be careful what you swallow.

  46. Wow, this site has taken a nosedive in recent weeks, not even the normal posters are posting now. Time for an Admin interdiction I think…. way too many new and random posters here now.

  47. Well done I’ve been waiting for someone to use strong language against the Americans the politicians are too afraid to do so

  49. European countries hold over $3 Trillion US Federal Bonds,
    Because they believe in the USA, They believe in Democracy & Freedom they fought two world wars. The likes of Putin only think of power,
    Ukraine gave up nuclear weapons chose the path of democracy & Putin once again rapes & plunders a sovereign nation. Trump is a proven coward, liar & sex offender. He has never paid his bills, morally bankrupt
    wouldn’t be surprised if Putin had something on them.
    Any how back to the Trillions of Bonds, they will buy lots of aid for Ukraine, leaving the USA into a deep recession.

  50. Dear all. You should realise that the USA is passed by the rest off the world on technology and behavior americans must crawl away into a dark cellar, and must not show there face the next 100 years, with there leider Mr Trump in front, after every body is in side trow away the keyboard. Shame yourself.

  51. Whatever happened to the Marshall Plan and Containment? Arguably Americas finest hour to rescue exhausted war torn nations from the growing threat of Communism. Like Stalin …the Arch Calculator he got it wrong and brought the arena of war to Korea, anticipating that the US wouldn’t stick to their committed to defend ANY democracy from invasion. He calculated incorrectly. And no mistake Putin has also miscalculated as has Trump. Both are sad leaders. The nuclear threat isn’t coming from the Ukraine.

  52. Whatever happened to the Marshall Plan and Containment? Arguably Americas finest hour to rescue exhausted war torn nations from the growing threat of Communism. Like Stalin …the Arch Calculator he got it wrong and brought the arena of war to Korea, anticipating that the US wouldn’t stick to their committment to defend ANY democracy from invasion. He calculated incorrectly. And no mistake Putin has also miscalculated as has Trump. Both are sad leaders. The nuclear threat isn’t coming from the Ukraine.

  53. F Haltbakk Bunkers. They can fund it. Trump never said he couldn’t continue the war. Just said he shouldn’t and we aren’t funding it anymore. Where’s Ukraine’s elections?

  54. Imagine if all this bs from NATO countries pissed Trump off so much America quit Nato and aligned with China and Russia….. then they would take what ever they wanted

  55. Yes it was a shit show ,a back stabbing staged event . Well you American China will soon teach you a lesson . I know think NZ should continue it’s neutral stance , sit back and watch America get a beating .. but I’m not that vindictive. I believe ,aside from the loony Oligarchs sucking up to Trump and their deluded followers , The majority of the US are disgusted with this administration. A Narcissistic Oligarch at its helm. Deluded followers will too swallow a bitter pill as life in US gets worse , far from great. Working classes will come to question what went wrong and who is to blame . A Narcisist who doesn’t give a shit for you . His stage and his way are what matter.. Vote wisely next time.

  56. Trump demanded fair compensation like e.u is getting he stood for his people and knows best way to handle putin respect to the man zelensky has profited from this gravy train while all his men die . He’s a coward uk prime minister is a joke couldn’t keep his hands off zelensky another billion while uk suffers from overpopulation from migration.. it’s a kick in Teath to all them that dies in ww2 and I’m British but I’m ashamed of this country and it’s joke leaders . Good on trump he’s making sure to fix sleept bidens mistakes

  58. Since the US now have changed side and probably soon will attack NATO, they can now easily bunker their ships in Murmansk. Trump the traitor will make an agreement with putin for that and get a nice discount on bunker oil.

  59. Norway – hey the country that is protecting us, well we arent going to sell you any fuel! And we think the rest of Europe should do it too!

    Anyone want to guess what Trump’s reaction is going to be?

    The US taxpayer thanks you idiots. The US taxpayer and soldiers carried Europe for the entire 20th century. The taxpayer for 1/4 of the 21st century. Figure your own shxt out.

  60. How the hell do you expect to achieve peace in any form, when you lot cant even agree on one single thing? I was pleased when trump won the usa election. I dont particulary like the man, or any of his team, especially the unhinged man boy, musk. But i thought at least trump will command more respect from the russians than biden did. I was filled with an almost excited hope, that here was someone who could stop this illegal war against the ukrainians. Then came this disgusting shit show from the oval office. The whole session was an absolute disgrace, it made me feel sick to the pit of my stomach. All you could hear from shouting reporters as zelensky drove off was, have you signed the mineral deal mr president. Shame on the lot of you. President zelensky had no option but to sit there and take this onslaught of abuse of abuse from tan man and his puppets, because he was desperate to secure more help for his people. Trump says he wants to be remembered as a peace maker, but he as just pushed the world even closer to world war three. He believes by pulling the usa out of nato, and washing his hands of europe and ukraine, America will be saved by the big blue beautiful ocean that seperates you from us? But you couldnt be more wrong mr trump. pearl harbour comes to mind.

  61. I wonder if Trump would be happy if Russia invaded another territory on its border ? Alaska perhaps ! He needs to wake up and see the free world must stand up to tyrants and dictators together as any country could be next !!!!

  62. Europe actually instigated WW1 & WW2. Not a single European politician has tried to sit down and negotiate peace in Ukraine. Nobody wanted Ukraine when Chernobyl blew it’s cork…a Russian country then (poor old Gorbachev).
    Ukraine is fast running out of men because most have been unnecessarily killed in a no-win war. Europe, including the UK, provide weapons to fight the Russians – a proxy war which is strongly suggested that Ukraine is being used to test out European weaponry…Trump and Vance are spot on with what they have done, alas, most in the West don’t think outside the box, but it is quite clear – Europe is a dangerous player with a lot of power hungry bastards trying to control and expand the ‘United States of Europe’.

  63. Europe actually instigated WW1 & WW2. Not a single European politician has tried to sit down and negotiate peace in Ukraine. Nobody wanted Ukraine when Chernobyl blew it’s cork…a Russian country then (poor old Gorbachev).
    Ukraine is fast running out of men because most have been unnecessarily killed in a no-win war. Europe, including the UK, provide weapons to fight the Russians – a proxy war which is strongly suggested that Ukraine is being used to test out European weaponry…Trump and Vance are spot on with what they have done, alas, most in the West don’t think outside the box, but it is quite clear – Europe is a dangerous player with a lot of power hungry bastards trying to control and expand the ‘United States of Europe’.

  64. Europe actually instigated WW1 & WW2. Not a single European politician has tried to sit down and negotiate peace in Ukraine. Nobody wanted Ukraine when Chernobyl blew it’s cork…a Russian country then (poor old Gorbachev).
    Ukraine is fast running out of men because most have been unnecessarily killed in a no-win war. Europe, including the UK, provide weapons to fight the Russians – a proxy war which is strongly suggested that Ukraine is being used to test out European weaponry…Trump and Vance are spot on with what they have done, alas, most in the West don’t think outside the box, but it is quite clear – Europe is a dangerous player with a lot of power hungry bastards trying to control and expand the ‘United States of Europe’.

  65. Europe actually instigated WW1 & WW2. Not a single European politician has tried to sit down and negotiate peace in Ukraine. Nobody wanted Ukraine when Chernobyl blew it’s cork…a Russian country then (poor old Gorbachev).
    Ukraine is fast running out of men because most have been unnecessarily killed in a no-win war. Europe, including the UK, provide weapons to fight the Russians – a proxy war which is strongly suggested that Ukraine is being used to test out European weaponry…Trump and Vance are spot on with what they have done, alas, most in the West don’t think outside the box, but it is quite clear – Europe is a dangerous player with a lot of power hungry bastards trying to control and expand the ‘United States of Europe’. This “scuffle” has been going on since 2013. America IS the most powerful country on the planet and no one can change that position; unless a mushroom cloud war kicks off!

  66. Amerimutts are the biggest leeching parasites on earth..when are you r3t@rds going to vacate British airbases, British overseas territories and stop leeching off British tech??

  68. So they want usa to fund for free. When the European countries say, we will cancel the loans we gave Ukraine for the war then we can talk. They were smart they gave loans, USA was stupid we gave for free. A lot of European countries are so hypocritical.

  69. It appears that the internet has created a situation in which people can criticize and attack each other’s intelligence and characters rather than discuss points of view. Mostly I see this coming from what I suppose you might call the left, when they constantly think people with a conservative approach are ridiculous, lap dogs, stupid, etc. This is mainly why Trump was elected… People see this as an arrogant woke attitude! Of course, there is plenty of the same attitude going on from the other direction calling people deranged and such. Here’s my two cents: First, probably most of us don’t know everything clearly and it all filters through biased media sources. Second, it seems like a bit of a difficult choice. Either you join David against Goliath and fold the world into warring camps, or you try to negotiate an end and yes that probably doesn’t look like David slaying Goliath, but more like Goliath going away and David going back to his life. Maybe you see this as absolute failure, but likely would save lives and get back to business. For sure, if you hate Putin and want him to go down, you are probably the same people who support the Palestinians against the israelis. So, if you were in the spot to make some decisions, would you risk all of the world to youth and plunge into world war III to do what is right, or would you look for a compromise. Maybe these lines are extremely clear and we know who is good and who is bad, and maybe it’s a little murky. Truthfully, unless you travel extensively, have connections with incredible inside people, read every single newspaper and have some sort of secret service of your own, you probably don’t know the full extent of what’s going on. Maybe you think you do and if you do you’re smarter than me. I will tell you this, as a US citizen, I am not in the mood to continue moving into a broken economy, losing our own ability to buy groceries and live a decent life, send money and American weapons and eventually Young American lives over to continue this hell. Unfortunately, you can sit around and think tanks and ivy League colleges and be the top of your debate team, but might has always made right! I know you don’t want to believe that and you believe that you are the last true vestige of justice. I know you play John Lennon’s music and dream of a world in which there are no governments and no religions. But study some history, and you will see that history is bloody and other than world war II, nobody can agree that any war was a just war! This thing will end with Ukraine giving up. It’s best, that day make a deal now! But hey, that’s just my opinion. If you have a different opinion, of course you can state it. I will make your prediction now. Rather than anybody stating an alternate opinion, I will now be called names and told I’m stupid. Well, welcome to the next us election. An all knowing judgemental attitude will continue getting populist messengers elected. If that’s what you want, then continue with your safe, coffee house debates, while other people struggled to get by!

  70. America first, 🇺🇸 i am tired of people that expecting the USA to fork out the bill, shit it’s Europes problem Europe fix it, free money is over.

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