Royal Air Force Typhoons have taken part in an unexpected relocation exercise to bolster the resilience of UK’s air defence.

As part of Exercise Agile Pirate, four Typhoons from XI(F) Squadron at RAF Coningsby in Lincolnshire received sudden orders to transfer to MOD Boscombe Down in Wiltshire.

Their mission was to be on Quick Reaction Alert – prepared to respond immediately to potential aerial threats close to UK airspace.

Air Marshal Harvey Smyth, Air and Space Commander, emphasised the exercise’s importance: “The whole series of Agile Pirate exercises are steppingstones to the RAF getting better and better at executing Agile Combat Employment. This exercise has shown we can move our Quick Reaction Alert around the UK, and future exercises will test other vital capabilities focused on defence of the UK.”

The RAF’s overarching goal with such exercises aligns with the strategy of Agile Combat Employment (ACE). ACE necessitates that RAF personnel and assets remain flexible and agile. As the press release mentioned, this strategy requires “operating in austere locations with minimal support, constantly moving and changing location to maintain the initiative, and outpace any action from an adversary whether in the UK or overseas alongside our NATO and Joint Expeditionary Force partners.”

Wing Commander Paul Hanson, Detachment Commander, reflected on the nature of the exercise: “Moving at pace presents its own challenges and we have pushed some assumptions to move even faster. Agile Combat Employment will change our current mindset and way of operating, and I think in many ways it will bring the very best out in our people; ready to deploy at shorter notice, taking part in more novel activity, and operating without the usual support structures of a main operating base.”

In readiness, the Typhoons were stationed in secure aircraft shelters. Upon receiving a scramble call from Tactical Air Command and Control (Tac Air C2), they were airborne within minutes.

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Tom has spent the last 13 years working in the defence industry, specifically military and commercial shipbuilding. His work has taken him around Europe and the Far East, he is currently based in Scotland.
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Andrew D
Andrew D (@guest_746684)
8 months ago

This exercise is a bit odd but if this is what takes to keep the bad guys away then so be it .Another squadron of Typhoons I think this exercise saying .😀🇬🇧

Steve
Steve (@guest_746685)
8 months ago
Reply to  Andrew D

In a war situation, it would be essential, as the enemy would target the operational raf bases and without much in the way of land based air defences they will be quickly taken out. At which point dispersion to any civilian air field available will need to be done to maintain air defenses, whilst in the meantime former bases are brought back to operational condition.

Crabfat
Crabfat (@guest_746686)
8 months ago
Reply to  Andrew D

“operating in austere locations with minimal support”,
Boscombe Down is hardly ‘austere;. BD is a fully operational airfield. There’s a wealth of support and expertise already there.

There are plenty of disused ex-RAF airfields around the country, some occupied by the Army. Runways should be kept useable, fuel and other essentials could be pre-positioned these already active and secure locations. I guess fuel in bowsers will have to be replaced as it reaches its sell buy date but that wouldn’t be a problem. One has to assume that contingencies like this have already been addressed??

Crabfat
Crabfat (@guest_746688)
8 months ago
Reply to  Crabfat

“pre-positioned at these…”

Robert Blay
Robert Blay (@guest_746691)
8 months ago
Reply to  Crabfat

Just because they used BD, they wouldn’t have had the use of the stations full supporting functions. That’s the idea of the exercise. Everything is deployed at short notice. Engineers, Fire crews, Fuel, ATC, MT support ect Not just the aircraft and crews.

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke (@guest_746692)
8 months ago
Reply to  Crabfat

BD operates Typhoons regularly for trials and testing.

There as usually one or two there…..often the BAE test one which I think is there testing the new Radar2 system….?

So calling BD austere isn’t, well, true……

There are generic fuelling systems there as well. So it is totally set up for fast air……

Steve
Steve (@guest_746697)
8 months ago
Reply to  Crabfat

I suspect they are all in such poor state that using them at short notice would likely risk damage to the planes. A risk worth taking in a war situation but in peace times just an unnecessary cost. I suspect if done right they could have restricted access to the bases existing gear and run the drill like it was using an abandoned airfield without the risks. I would guess the old bases could be brought back to semi usable in a matter of days if needed, just a matter of patching holes and moving kit there, might not be… Read more »

John Clark
John Clark (@guest_746702)
8 months ago
Reply to  Crabfat

I think the idea is they bring their own support, we should have the deployable gear to support four Thypoons ‘off site’ with no problems.

I would imagine inflatable hangers, fuel bladders, tented accommodation, cook house, RAF regiment detachment, possibly local Army Reserve involvement too, ect etc, all set up in a quiet corner of the airfield.

If it’s not ‘ gone camping ‘ done properly, then theirs little point doing the exercise.

I would think the idea is to operationally deploy somewhere like Wellsborne for example, 6000 ft runway, but no facilities….

Last edited 8 months ago by John Clark
Crabfat
Crabfat (@guest_746728)
8 months ago
Reply to  John Clark

Hi John and Steve. Someone said,’In time of peace, prepare for war’. An old adage but still very apt today. My point was that we should set up ex-RAF/current army bases as emergency flying stations. For example, RAF Lyneham was closed several years ago and is now the home of the School of Army Aeronautical Engineering (REME). There are two long runways apparently still usable. RAF Colerne, in Wiltshire, now an army base, still has a couple of shorter usable runways but they are scheduled to close in 2025. The advantage of using these sites is that accommodation, cookhouse, IT… Read more »

Emajay
Emajay (@guest_746860)
8 months ago
Reply to  Crabfat

Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus, a Roman general named Vegetius. Written somewhere between AD384 and AD389. As apt now as it was then.

Last edited 8 months ago by Emajay
JJ Smallpiece
JJ Smallpiece (@guest_746729)
8 months ago
Reply to  John Clark

Cook house, tented accommodation – no just make use of local facilities, In total war civilian infrastructure would be used – local hotels/leisure centres etc would be used. Civilian fuel trucks and other lorries taken over.
RAF Regt Rock Apes – have you seen the size of the Regt these days…. they will be too busy defending the main bases

JJ Smallpiece
JJ Smallpiece (@guest_746703)
8 months ago
Reply to  Crabfat

BD is very austere I once had to stay in a 3* hotel when on detachment, instead of the usual 5*. It was a tough week, but somebody had to do it.

David Lloyd
David Lloyd (@guest_746718)
8 months ago
Reply to  JJ Smallpiece

My word, that must have been difficult for you! My heart breaks LOL

JJ Smallpiece
JJ Smallpiece (@guest_746730)
8 months ago
Reply to  David Lloyd

Yes, it was tough. They even restricted us to 2 course meals. It was either a starter and mains or mains and pudding not both.
I’ll tell you about it some day.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_746725)
8 months ago
Reply to  Crabfat

100% agree, they are strategic assets that need to be maintained.

Graham M
Graham M (@guest_746902)
8 months ago
Reply to  Andrew D

In WW2 squadrons frequently relocated within the UK. I guess if your station is bombed you’ve got to go somewhere else. A worthwhile exercise, I would have thought.

ABCRodney
ABCRodney (@guest_747130)
8 months ago
Reply to  Graham M

M8 We should maintain but we don’t and seldom do. Once upon a time most MOD bases were supplied with fuel by the GPSS underground fuel storage and distribution system. In 2015 the Government sold it to a Spanish company for £82 million. They signed a 10 year contract to continue using it and so far have paid £237 million for the privilege, Look up Exolum pipeline for details. There was one little thing in BW recent speech that he was justifiably proud of. He was proud to be a Tory who nationalised an absolutely vital UK industrial company and… Read more »

Graham M
Graham M (@guest_747198)
8 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

That’s a shocking story about MoD selling off GPSS, then paying far more for use of the system. It is said that Exolum have decided to close down some of the pipelines, just to rub salt in the wound.

Almost every example of MoD having contracted out or privatised a service (whether PFI or otherwise) has been something of a disaster.

Mark
Mark (@guest_746687)
8 months ago

Not that sudden. The only issue was trying to find enough 5* accommodation in the Amesbury area for the pilots 😉😉😉

Gavin Gordon
Gavin Gordon (@guest_746704)
8 months ago

Hear that the RAF fighters are next up for Channel 4 docuseries, scheduled 2100 Monday 21st, I believe

JJ Smallpiece
JJ Smallpiece (@guest_746705)
8 months ago

All good practice stuff. You can bet your last King’s pound that if Vlad has any missiles left Lossiemouth, Coningsby, Brize Norton, Waddington, HMNB Clyde, Plymouth, Portsmouth, Coalport, RAF Boulmer, Fylindales will be high on the bad boys target list

David Lloyd
David Lloyd (@guest_746719)
8 months ago
Reply to  JJ Smallpiece

Agreed. And with simultaneus strikes during the dead of night when everybody will be asleep in their 5* bunks. The only Typhoons left will be those in the air when it happens

Robert Blay
Robert Blay (@guest_746721)
8 months ago
Reply to  JJ Smallpiece

Given the lack of accuracy demonstrated by the Russians targeting neighbouring Ukraine. I think the above stations are going to be just fine.

David Barry
David Barry (@guest_746838)
8 months ago
Reply to  Robert Blay

Not sure a nuke needs a great deal of accuracy Robert.

Robert Blay
Robert Blay (@guest_746879)
8 months ago
Reply to  David Barry

There’s not much anyone can do about nukes anyway.

David Lloyd
David Lloyd (@guest_747083)
8 months ago
Reply to  Robert Blay

First strike capability and launch on warning?

Robert Blay
Robert Blay (@guest_747086)
8 months ago
Reply to  David Lloyd

We would be all f@@@@d if that was to happen. But a great deal of politics would and international relations would have to go very very wrong long before we get to that.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_746724)
8 months ago

Also seen on Twitter F35s operating from there at the same time. Apaches were also operating over SPTA though unsure if they were linked to this exercise and not just from MW which is not far to the east. Boscombe has, as I’ve mentioned before, been a QRA designate location for many years. It’s good to see, but the location is hardly austere, with one of the longest runways in the UK, HAS, and all the other facilities the ATEC and ETPS have access too. SAOEU used to fly from there in the 90s, and there was a well publicised… Read more »

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker (@guest_746726)
8 months ago

I wonder if there are any plans to put aircraft to other countries. How would Ireland be with some typhoons rocking up at an airport.
Extremely unlikely now but cold war thinking some aircraft got airborne then no where to land in the U.K.
The aliens that come from light years away only to crash at boscombe😂😂😂😂

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_746727)
8 months ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

No, that’s Roswell mate.

Boscombe Crash was most likely one of Northrop Grummans black aircraft, reportedly AV6, and looking like their failed YF23.

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker (@guest_746770)
8 months ago

Well when you get ball deep into some of the crazy conspiracy peoples thoughts some think it’s was an alien tech craft and that’s why the USAF came to recover it😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thanks for the aircraft number. Time for a google search.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_746780)
8 months ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

You won’t find anything beyond the AFM in depth investigative article that identified air vehicle 6. It was also known as Astra. MoD say it was a Tornado landing with a damaged tail pod that caused the a303 to be closed, A109s from Hereford to arrive, the area surrounded by plod,then the USAF galaxy to take the wreckage away. The c5 was assigned to Palmdale, exactly where some of these black craft are built. No coincidence. The frontal section of the plane was seen in the hanger viewable from the spotters car park, which I’ve frequented many times. Yes, Boscombe… Read more »

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF (@guest_746805)
8 months ago

Of course, one rumor had spacecraft and alien remnants in storage w/in a hanger located at WPAFB. Wonder whether sponsored or self-guided tours are available? 😉

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF (@guest_746806)
8 months ago
Reply to  FormerUSAF

(From the Roswell incident.)

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF (@guest_746809)
8 months ago
Reply to  FormerUSAF

… hangar…🙄

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_746849)
8 months ago
Reply to  FormerUSAF

Rumours? Witness accounts mate. Hundreds of them, from the people who flew the wreckage.
No. No guided tours. Senator Barry Goldwater tried and his friend Curtis LeMay gave him hell for even asking.

Mark
Mark (@guest_746774)
8 months ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

Why with all of the NATO partners to pick would a nation with zero support capacity for any fighters be picked? As to the answer, most likely told politely to feck off up to NI or back to GB before the Government would have to make an awkward choice.

Even at the height of the Cold War the only time Ireland was considered was either RAF Sea Kings doing rescue work or the UK did ask for permission for Nimrods to operate from Irish airfields, which was refused.

Robert Blay
Robert Blay (@guest_746751)
8 months ago

That’s why we set up Expeditionary Airwings when deploying overseas. It brings all those elements together. 👍

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_746761)
8 months ago
Reply to  Robert Blay

Yes mate. Are they still a thing? Most of the main stations had their own.
And if the EAW is deployed can the station still run? Or are all the wings personnel deployed within the EAW?

Robert Blay
Robert Blay (@guest_746886)
8 months ago

Hi mate. Yes. EAW’s are still a thing. The RAF currently has 5 EAW’s deployed overseas. And the station can still operate. Usually, gaps are filled from the wider RAF for overseas deployments.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_747058)
8 months ago
Reply to  Robert Blay

Thanks mate. I was under the impression the home station would be inoperable as so many staff of the stations wings would need to go into the EAW.

Graham M
Graham M (@guest_746899)
8 months ago

An EAW (No. 904?) was based at Bastion when I was there in 2008-9.
EAWs have to still be a thing as the RAF still do (or is prepared to do) expeditionary ops.

Ernest
Ernest (@guest_746771)
8 months ago

There is a case for buying some Saab JAS 39 Gripen.
First M2 speed.

Max Height 50,000 f

Range 3000 km

Lastly very handy – They can take of and land on roads, motorways, in fact lots of places.

Back up for refueling and inspection is simplified.

Last edited 8 months ago by Ernest
Duker
Duker (@guest_746797)
8 months ago
Reply to  Ernest

Range is more like 300km not 3000. its designed for defence of Sweden not something like a UK AIS

Ernest
Ernest (@guest_746897)
8 months ago
Reply to  Duker

Range 3000 km as far as I can tell – I am providing link – Has a combat radius of 800 km.Mack to + than can land on roads lanes is a good option for UK Defense. I am not saying instead of the typhoon, as well as. These jets are for countries with low defense budgets, UK is not low but not much get spent on new kit, Ajax excepted. BTW Gripen are pushing for exports, not just building for defense. My view is with the state of Europe – We should have as much kits as possible.and affordable.… Read more »

David Barry
David Barry (@guest_746839)
8 months ago

On the subject of runways, bugging out to former RAF Silloth in North Cumbria would be good training and would give you the no gain without pain factor. Now, that is up there with austere.

And there’s something to be said for living out of a maggot for a week – tiredness creeps in, and drills and skills need to be maintained by the whole unit.

Does BD give you that experience?

Ernest
Ernest (@guest_746898)
8 months ago
Reply to  David Barry

Blackpool Airport is another airport with a decent runway, recently used by Jet 2 – Keep out jets apart where we can.

David Barry
David Barry (@guest_746900)
8 months ago
Reply to  Ernest

Bit near the BAe site, don’t you think?

Ernest
Ernest (@guest_746909)
8 months ago
Reply to  David Barry

Yes would be near Warton just 7 miles from Preston.. I see your point but I believe it could be handy to have a squadron of Typhoons at Blackpool near Warton and also Barrow. Blackpool used to be a military airfield.

David Barry
David Barry (@guest_746910)
8 months ago
Reply to  Ernest

I had thought about Walney – although the runway looks hillier than a bmx trail AND just next to… BAE Sub systems; if no one gave the good news to the tiffies, they would certainly give the good news to the DDH.

Hence, the old RAF Silloth – which is miles from anywhere, and could take an A400 landing with equipment.

Ernest
Ernest (@guest_746950)
8 months ago
Reply to  David Barry

I’l say RAF Silloth ” is miles away from anywhere – it’s in Cumbria.

Mind you I think you can see Cumbria from Blackpool – Walney .

Blackpool until recently was a commercial airport, I used a lot. Now it’s private jest, Choppers and Choppers to the oil rigs.

I would imagine it would handle Typhoons with ease. RUNWAY 10/28 1,868 m’s shorter 2nd runway.

I am sure there are enough usable airports in UK>

David Barry
David Barry (@guest_746959)
8 months ago
Reply to  Ernest

I’ve flown from Blackpool to… Prague(?)

Walney, I can see as I live on the Duddon – in… Cumberland…
(stupid renaming that’s costing £££).

Silloth, nothing happens in Silloth – perfect location.

Ernest
Ernest (@guest_746988)
8 months ago
Reply to  David Barry

I flew to every destination from Blackpool, was a good easy airport, Quite a few destinations – I did not fly to Prague as I never flew inland anywhere,

Not a lot bar Red Arrows and air ambulance and private flights now, there is not even a terminal anymore – it’s now an Enterprise Zone..BB ruined the airport along with Blackpool council.

It has facilities and that would be good. Nothing does happen in Silloth – There is Kirkbride Airfield also, have they been used since the 1950s

David Barry
David Barry (@guest_746990)
8 months ago
Reply to  Ernest

ScScScScScotland!!! Wash your mouth out!

😉

Ernest
Ernest (@guest_746999)
8 months ago
Reply to  David Barry

Ha Ha, should have known 🙂

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_747056)
8 months ago
Reply to  David Barry

West Freugh.

David Barry
David Barry (@guest_747062)
8 months ago

I’d never heard of that, Daniele, thank you.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_747072)
8 months ago
Reply to  David Barry

Hi David.

Yes, it is an old DERA airfield, now QinetiQ.

Used to have the QinetiQ SGS Satellite Ground Station, and other bits and pieces. Is close to Luce Bay range, and Kirkudbright is not far to the east.

I only mentioned it due to your mention of Warton. Some “interesting” flights occurred in the 90s from Warton’s SPS to West Freugh.

David Barry
David Barry (@guest_747079)
8 months ago

You tease, you.

ABCRodney
ABCRodney (@guest_747077)
8 months ago

M8 Be serious West Freugh, ! I was born about 12 miles away and even I wouldn’t want to be based there. It’s a bleak, blank, open, windy, god forsaken dump of a place. How to get RAF AWOL stats in one go, not a decent pub for miles. If you want a remote base in Scotland that comes as a very des res then try Maccrihanish huge runway and decent fishing too. Seriously though there are several ex RAF bases that are all maintained and available for rapid dispersal. Kinloss, Leuchars and Leeming for starters as all have HAS… Read more »

David Barry
David Barry (@guest_747080)
8 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

We’re talking about the RAF – This would be the one chance they have to rough it for a week and really understand what wearing a uniform entails; we don’t want them to have 5* and recreation, make ’em suffer and RAFR force protection would get the good news too!

ABCRodney
ABCRodney (@guest_747135)
8 months ago
Reply to  David Barry

Have you ever been there ? No cover, no dispersals, nothing and every drop of fuel has to go up by road. It’s just completely open.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_747221)
8 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

A key point, if the field is not linking to the GPSS then that is not great!

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_747082)
8 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

Lol, we’re talking of remote dispersal in the NW, re Ernst and David’s convo.

Indeed, aware of all those others, I’ve listed them before, and all strategic assets with plenty of the infrastructure in place that need to remain on MoD estate.

Mac is still used for training, and we all know the rumours about that place.

Add Chivenor to that list, and Woodbridge, Wattisham, plenty of others if I can be bothered to have a think and make a list.

No HAS at Kinloss mate, though it’s a huge dispersal area.

Wittering has runway in use, as EFT there.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_747094)
8 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

Hi mate. My earlier reply was a rushed headed out the door to work affair. Now I have driven to work and have given it more thought. I think we also need to bare in mind the calls from many on this thread for use from more austere locations. There is bare base, then there is very bare base! We have many runways, with varying degrees of infrastructure, that may already be potential targets as they are still the MoD estate. Yes, as you say lots of places to hide away. I can think of, and adding yours and some… Read more »

ABCRodney
ABCRodney (@guest_747137)
8 months ago

Main issue is the runways are both inactive and have been for years and even when they were the main one is 6000ft. There are no hangers, disposals, trees etc etc.
And yep Stranraer is up the road. It’s basically just a satellite earth station these days and occasionally used by helicopters and parking for exercises.
On the other hand beach casting for Seabass was fun near Port William when the Marines were playing with Swedish assault boats a few years ago.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_747144)
8 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

As a local did you hear of the FT Flying Triangle UAV trials arriving there?

ABCRodney
ABCRodney (@guest_747218)
8 months ago

I was born there, have family up there(seems like half the county) but raised in Derby and that’s where I live and have had my working career.
West Freugh was always a bit odd, and there have always been rumours about various things but trying to find anything solid is like looking for rocking horse manure.
I was on holiday up there in the 80’s when they tested the 1st CIWS, many locals thought the noise was aliens.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_747219)
8 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

LOL, where did they test it? Kirkcudright?

ABCRodney
ABCRodney (@guest_747237)
8 months ago

Nope West Freugh it was fired down the centre of Luce Bay toward the Scares Rocks, it was only years later anyone found out that they also tested 20mm DU ammunition during the trials. A few years later they tested the 120mm DU at Kirkcudbright, then cluster bombs and all, sorts of stuff. But we are all assured that there is zero risk to the locals. To be perfectly honest it’s a drop in the ocean (sorry for the pun) compared to what was dumped in the Beaufort Dyke in the 40’s to the early 60’s. Made me laugh when… Read more »

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_747245)
8 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

Just a typical BJ grandstand, like the expanding RN. If it had ever had any guts behind it advisors would have dampened down the suggestion.
Good posts on the WF point with your local knowledge. Good insights.

ABCRodney
ABCRodney (@guest_747256)
8 months ago

To give you some idea of what an idiot he is the famous SS Richard Montgomery is in the Thames Estuary and contains @1400 tons of TNT (equivalent to a small 1.4KG Tactical Nuke) so it’s bloody dangerous. The Beaufort Dyke contains (you may want to sit down), 1,000,000 tons of ordinance plus, phosgene, mustard gas etc etc and some Nuclear waste just to add to the mix. So basically it’s a 1 Megaton Dirty Bomb. So BJ had the feasibility study done to build his bridge and they realised that they needed to avoid any chance of piling bridge… Read more »

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_747337)
8 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

Regards the SS RM and the Thames Estuary, BJ also wanted to build an airport there instead of expanding Heathrow, I don’t know how close said planned site would have been to the SS RM.

ABCRodney
ABCRodney (@guest_747361)
8 months ago

It was supposed to be built on the Isle of Grain and reclaimed land to the east and North to all 4 to 6 parallel runways running east / west. The wreck is @ 2 miles due east so smack under the flight paths. In fairness if it wasn’t for that then it would be a pretty decent site, no overflight in central London and as it is mainly over water far fewer restrictions. They were also going to need to build road / rail links and a new town for the workers cost @£100 billion. OK he got us… Read more »

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_747371)
8 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

To be fair mate, the way the EU behaved, there was always going to be friction, and there was downright obstruction on Barniers part. Operation punishment is a thing. The EU did not need antagonizing any more than they were already. The exact opposite is downright acceptance of all their demands. It’s supposed to be a 2 way thing amongst allies. On the airport, I was against it for its environmental impact on the wetlands, something which I think the Tories care not a jot considering the rate Bees are dying out with their pesticide rules. Anyway, none of this… Read more »

ABCRodney
ABCRodney (@guest_747227)
8 months ago

I’d add Ronaldsway on the IOM, everyone forgets about it. As for Bedford it’s like Lutterworth covered in 000’s of cars. The bit that really gets to me about this exercise is the glaringly obvious Elephant in the Back Garden. If you disperse to just the obvious sites such as Leuchars, Leeming, Honnington and St Mawgan you have all the fast jets in HAS and no enemy knows which ones to hit. Which is pretty damn good. But when you consider that the Ukraine still has an operating AF after 18 months of up close interdiction and everything that Russia… Read more »

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_747234)
8 months ago
Reply to  ABCRodney

On your last para, I understand UKR have dispersed, they move their remaining aircraft regularly to avoid targeting.

Good point on the HAS we have available.

Ronaldsway….one I have never heard of!

ABCRodney
ABCRodney (@guest_747250)
8 months ago

It’s a civilian airport but most folks forget it exists.

Airborne
Airborne (@guest_746927)
8 months ago

Good, skills and drills which were routine 30 plus years ago, now essential considering the realisation that there was no such thing as the peace dividend, Russia is headed by a psychotic nonce nutter and our low platform numbers. More of the same please.

Ernest
Ernest (@guest_746952)
8 months ago
Reply to  Airborne

There never was a “Peace Dividend” – I remember Thatcher saying UK would re-arm, if  Gorbachev was not released.
If Putin was toppled you can bet, nothing would change maybe Russia would eb more belligerent.
We cut all 3 defence arms for a peace dividend than never was, and nobodyis learning.

David Barry
David Barry (@guest_746962)
8 months ago
Reply to  Ernest

That’s not true, I was impressed by General Sir Patrick Sanders when he was speaking at RUSI…

Ah, the pollies are getting rid of him; came across as a good soldier.

Airborne
Airborne (@guest_747017)
8 months ago
Reply to  Ernest

The peace dividend was terminology by politicians to cut and reduce spending, there is always a threat, but it was can opportunity to save money, simple as that.