The Ministry of Defence has left open the possibility of extending the life of the Royal Navy’s Type 45 destroyers, saying detailed transition planning will determine whether an extension is implemented and that a final decision is not expected until 2027-28.

The position came in a written parliamentary answer from Minister for Defence Readiness and Industry Luke Pollard on 10 July, responding to Andrew Bowie, the Conservative MP for West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine, who asked whether an assessment has been made of the potential risks in maritime air defence capability as the Type 45s approach retirement without a replacement.

“The role of Maritime Air Defence, currently delivered by Type 45 Destroyers, will be delivered in the future by a mix of crewed Common Combat Vessels and uncrewed, autonomous missile (Type 91) and sensor (Type 94) ships,” Pollard said. “The decision to move to this hybrid approach was taken after detailed analysis of current and future threats, including lessons from ongoing conflicts. The specific analysis is necessarily classified, but the mix of crewed and uncrewed systems will produce a more flexible force, with greater missile capacity while also improving mass.” He added: “Detailed planning for the transition between Type 45 and the Hybrid Navy Maritime Air Defence capability will be undertaken in consultation with industry, which will determine whether a Type 45 extension is implemented. A final decision is not expected until 2027-28.”

The language is a big shift from the position set out when the Defence Investment Plan was published, when a senior defence official said the six destroyers would leave service from 2035 without life extension, with the plan timing the arrival of the Common Combat Vessels to their out-of-service dates. The answer now makes an extension an open question to be settled through transition planning with industry, and in doing so it acknowledges the risk Bowie’s question probes, since the destroyers begin retiring in the mid-2030s whether or not their successors are ready, and the seam between the two fleets is precisely what the planning must manage. A prototype Type 91 uncrewed missile platform is intended to be in service by 2030, with no service entry date yet set for the class, while the Common Combat Vessel remains in its early design stages with hull form options still being explored.

The answer also gives justification yet for cancelling the Type 83 destroyer, the ship once intended to succeed the Type 45. “The alternative, an expensive, exquisite platform such as the Type 83, would have resulted in too few ships to cover all the Royal Navy’s tasks, increasing risk,” Pollard said, an argument that echoes evidence given to the Defence Committee this week by Strategic Defence Review author General Sir Richard Barrons, who described the Type 45 as likely to prove the last of its kind and defended the shift of resources towards systems that deliver mass. The department told Parliament separately on the same day that the Type 83 was an early-stage concept on which no build decisions had been made.

The Type 45s are themselves mid-way through significant upgrades, with the Sea Viper Evolution programme improving their capability against ballistic missiles and all six ships receiving power and propulsion fixes, investments that would carry additional value should an extension be chosen. The answer does not say what an extension would involve, how many of the six ships it might cover, or what conditions would trigger it, with those questions now folded into the transition planning running to the 2027-28 decision point.

George Allison
George Allison is the founder and editor of the UK Defence Journal. He holds a degree in Cyber Security from Glasgow Caledonian University and specialises in naval and cyber security topics. George has appeared on national radio and television to provide commentary on defence and security issues. Twitter: @geoallison

19 COMMENTS

    • I suspect they are waiting to see how the CCV and the Type 94 and Type 91 concept works out.

      It makes a lot of sense to keep T45 as long as possible or until we have confidence in the new systems. The platform has loads of life in it and could even have a radar upgrade that would keep it relevant for decades to come.

      • The R.N. is going to be in an awful lot of trouble if the concept doesn’t work out. Pioneering a completely new system is great, but given our track record over the last thirty years…?

    • This means that the Type CCV just got postponed to 10 years later… albeit that is more realistic for tech maturity,

      An issue for CCV ship is they are too few and controlling AAW, ASuW and ASW can be conflicted.

    • All the drone ships are currently ideas, not even really at the point of design. It’s a huge gamble and I suspect the MOD realise their time frames are hugely optimistic due to the above plus high chance of political interference /different ideas should a new government replace labour in 3 years, which seems likely currently. Capability holidays have become the norm but not sure any government would get away with a complete naval capability holiday with no ships existing.

  1. Is it sensible to have sensor ships seperate to missile ships?

    Anyway, in futue a CSG will need three ships to do the bare minimum AD with no redundancy – a crewed Common Combat Vessel and uncrewed, autonomous missile (Type 91) and sensor (Type 94) ships…instead of a single ship (T45).
    I hope the availability of each type is super-high!

    • It is if you want to make the ship smaller and more numerous. I suspect that’s what they have split the type 91 into two vessels now. The type 94 can spread out over a wider range while the type 91 with the expensive missiles stay close into to the task force and the command ship.

      It also means you can rotate type 91 back to shore to be reloaded and not loose a radar sensor in the task force.

    • The issue is that a 10000t cruiser would have much more power available for radars than an eventual 2000t T94. Also keep in mind that the T94 will need radars in various frequencies. splitting the power even more.

  2. Extending them at least 5 years ideally more would seem a no brainer? After all of the money spent upgrading the propulsion and combat capabilities it would seem such a waste to get rid of them without extension. I would also imagine there’s plenty of hull life left since some of them have been inactive for a long time.

    • 10 years alongside in some cases.
      Alas, we’re now in a buggers muddle having fitted a ‘cheap quick fix’ mushroom farm in the space 16 Mk41 VLS cells – proper land attack or ABM capable missiles – were meant to be fitted.
      Hopefully we’ll see the pointless 4.5” gun finally binned and replaced with a 57mm Bofors

  3. Reading between the lines, funding of Type 83 ceases. So, that’s a bit more cash, today. The remainder of this Parliament will be taken-up scoping-out the Type 94 and realising it can’t be done. So, the next Government has to resurrect something that looks like a Type 83 but with fewer missiles cells as the Type 91 is feasible.
    The Flight III Arleigh Burkes are over 9,500 tons. They’ve got SPY6 and Aegis 10. Those two pieces of kit need so much electrical power that the USN can’t put the HELIOS directed energy weapon on the Flight III ships as there’s not enough ‘spare’ power! Type 94 just won’t work with the current technology available….

  4. Reading between the lines, funding of Type 83 ceases. So, that’s a bit more cash, today. The remainder of this Parliament will be taken-up scoping-out the Type 94 and realising it can’t be done. So, the next Government has to resurrect something that looks like a Type 83 but with fewer missiles cells as the Type 91 is feasible.
    The Flight III Arleigh Burkes are over 9,500 tons. They’ve got SPY6 and Aegis 10. Those two pieces of kit need so much electrical power that the USN can’t put the HELIOS directed energy weapon on the Flight III ships as there’s not enough ‘spare’ power! Type 94 just won’t work with the current technology available….

  5. With these drone ship’s if they come across maintains issues with Radar etc ? What then ,at least with a crewed vessels you can have hands on depending on the degree of the situation . The DIP may be out in the public domain so we know what the plan is but I fear in the departments of the MOD there is still arguments which is the right plan for the way forward .

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