A Typhoon from 1(F) Squadron has fired a Meteor missile on an exercise in France with French Air Force Rafales.
The Typhoon jets deployed to Cazaux air base in western France near Bordeaux and flew with French Rafales in the Bay of Biscay where they successfully engaged a Banshee 80 aerial target.
“The Banshee 80 aerial target is a 3-metre-long jet powered flying target, which the RAF Typhoon was required to locate, track, and target. The target has twin jet engines, which enable it to fly at speeds of up to 180 metres per second, making it a realistic and challenging target. The Meteor Beyond Visual Range Air to Air Missile (BVRAAM) state-of-the-art complex weapon is manufactured by MBDA in the UK in collaboration with five other partner nations: France, Germany, Italy, Spain, and Sweden.
The missile is powered by a ramjet motor, which propels it until it hits its target. This gives it a long range and very large “no escape zone”. It is guided by an active radar seeker, giving it the ability to engage a wide variety of air targets in all weather conditions. It is network-enabled, meaning pilots can operate the missile using third-party target data, allowing flexibility in tactics.”
A small team from 1(F) Squadron deployed to France to support the Typhoons there.
The RAF also add that the exercise was also supported by a Voyager from RAF Brize Norton which provided air-to-air refuelling to extend the duration and the range of the Typhoon’s sortie.
18 meters per second. Like we all know m/s? Why not give mph like everyone understands?
12mph
It’s 402.649 mph
Think you will find it says 180m/s. At 18m/s l could probably hit it with my catapult!!!!
Well… be lenient after all we’re dealing with more than two numbers here !!
I think a bit faster than that… 🤣
180 m/s is ~400 mph. So the 18 Frank62 said would be 40 mph
More like 400mph
Do behave dr. You’re out by a factor of 32. It’s 402.7mph. Though you prove my point that nothing is clear or obvious given as meters per second to most people.
SPOT ON! 🤣👍
think it’s a bit faster. You can be as slow as you like though and the little froggies won’t appear
mph isn’t the right unit for these scenarios. Things happen very quickly in battles between missiles. Things are over in seconds or minutes, nothing is hanging around for an hour!
I don’t agree. It depends on your audience, ie the reader. Aeronautical engineer yes, general reader no.
Its 180m/s mate, but in our terms around about 400 mph give or take.
Make a wicked broomstick for my mum on full moon nights.
Im sure she would love you for that comment?🤣
It’s OK, she’s on the verge of forgetting who I am; tomorrow is Wednesday, don’t you know.
Meanwhile, Barrow keeps coming up wrt AUKUS.
Certainly property prices are going up and very soon Barrow Island will be chic beaucoup, mon ami. I sh!t you not.
Its still a dump and all shops have vertually closed down, its a ghost town.
Yeah! But marketing is marketing, innit!
Give it a year, HSBC will be re-locating from Docklands and we’ll get a tidal barrage over Lancaster and two hours up to London on the train.
I’ll use the tinfoil I bought for the 🦃 perhaps that’ll help.
She’s sharing it with my mother in law who is weighing the back end down hence why only 180m/sec. Normally it’s 500msec but u have to allow for tonnage and width of the thing and boy she is moosive.
What you doing under your mother law? How do you know how much she weighs? 😉
Lets use yards per second for the +50 yr old brits then.,
It’s actually 590 mph it’s just over 3 feet to the meter so 180m times 3.281 equals 590 feet
multiply the speed value by 2.237 so it’s 402.649
You think metric is hard to understand?
You wouldn’t usually quote velocity in meters per seconds, yard or feet and inches – it’s MPH KPH or Knots by convention, unless a higher degree of precision is required as in the field of ballistics.
Hey cookie the cat, technically your not right. Velocity is always measured in m/s. Conversion to mph just makes more sense to the human brain in day to day stuff. I have no idea how many metres my house is from work, nor how fast my car goes in m/s so it’s not relevant. But if I want to calculate acceleration and other fun stuff then the scientific calculations are in m/s.
If it’s any help, it’s near-enough the same conversion as kilos to pounds. Multiply by 2.2. So 180 m/s = 400 mph.
If said man can’t count.. Mr Google can🤦🏼😂
It actually 590 mph you times 180 by 3.281
Incorrect multiply the speed value by 2.237 so it’s 402.649. No debate about it, it’s maths mate.
Theres no such thing as KPH, its km/h. And you certainly would use m/s if its very fast such as muzzle velocities
Many people have a problem counting to 10 😀
Still trolling new posters I see. Many people have a problem believing the incoherent crap and bullshit you post
Yep, nothing wrong with the old system,,, but hey baaaahhh
Surely it’s easier to visualise 180 meters than a mile. Also easier judge 1 second🤷♂️
Ok lets settle this .. yards per second !
If your target is 180m away and you are firing a BVRAAM, I visualise that you messed up.
40 mph doesn’t sound as fast 🤣
It’s 400 mph
Npt far off I make it 403….🤣👍
Metric is the way forward, it just makes sense. Try Google if you’re stumped.
Sub sonic jet speeds..402 miles an hour in this case…meters per second is the standardised international unit, in this case probably would have been best to convert to a more public friendly speed.
Wot, like football fields or double decker buses???
Baked and and sausages work well for size but not speed.
It was 180 meter per second slightly faster
MPs X2 = knots (approximately) so 180 mps= 360knots (fair enough for a target drone)
Thanks guys. Just done the calculations to check for myself. Indeed it’s 402.7mph. So that’s closer to c2.2x for m/s to mph, x c2 for knots as you suggest Martin.
If you want to convey a speed then mph is immedeately clear & obvious in mph in the English speaking world. Bit of a pain if given as kmph, knots too but often used in naval/air circles, but particularly obtuse given as m/s.
Nothing particularly impresive about a meteor aam downing a 400mph drone unless it’s stealthy, manouvering evasively, or emitting ECM.
m/s is an ISO which is global while mph is BS or AS. The context, here is in France. I think that’s why they used the ISO
It’s 180 m/s according to the article, which is just over 400 mph. But I agree, why not in mph so it’s clear to everyone.
Have you listened to the BBC where they quote in $ ?
Bad enough having Aussies reading our sports new and (name) Keiron Heselthwithe fuckwit giving us the business news, but, financially in Dollars?
The majority of the world is on the metric system so go and learn about it
180 metres/second (not 18)
(180x60x60) /1500= 432 miles per hour.
/1000= 648 kilometres per hour….
Just multiply by 2.2 mate
180 meters per second = 402 miles per hour
180 not 18 🙄
Because is more accurate!
That’s 6,012.88 furlongs per second
7086.614 inches per second or
Mach 0.525 speed of sound
Glad to help! 🙃
Because the real world understands metrics
180 metres a second far better illustrates it than mph. Reality thats fast.
180 meters per second wich is roughly 650km/h of I did the math right – that was the drone, not the Tayphoon
Ballistic speed is usually measured in feet per second. I guess that in places where metric system (majority of the world) is used, the meter per second is the norm.
No kids in the UK have learned miles and yards since 1974… This means most people under 55 are metric! Very few have imperial as their primary measurement system
When you write to report for international community, you report in standard units not and archaic system of units
So how much do these missiles cost?
2 Million
200 million pennies I guess.
Surely we should be quoting pennies per hour 😁
Whats the Metres per gallon fuel consumption also?
Litres please James imperial is so Colonial in 2023 the use of the term “Gallons” could get you cancelled 😢
It’s 403.2 miles a hour which ain’t that fast compared to today’s missile speeds could of been cought and shot down by a second world war spitfire.
This is one of the most sarcastically funny discussions I’ve seen in a long time. Merry Xmas all
Merry Christmas Leon.
Turn it into a Ship and Land SAM – could fill our GBAD gap if a booster was added – and it would have excellent range
That would be an idea, however if we were going for long range it would be best to use the Aster missile setup, as it was designed as an essentially ground launches system.
More Sky Sabre with perhaps camm-mr (when built) would be good.
Even better a few more Typhoon to stop the other missiles being launched in the first place!
AA
Did you hear that Ireland made an advanced stealth fighter. But the pilot forgot where he parked it and nobody can find it.
What about the sub-launcbed” low-level hyper-sonic ones that can travel from just outside Belgian territorial waters to London in under two minutes. Now there’s a target worthy of practice…. But UK Defence Forces have nothing to touch ’em. Oh dear !
Wow, 7 miles per minute is quite slow
I’m wondering, what would have happened if they couldn’t shoot it down in time?
Then we would not be reading this article, or having this discussion.
First rule is never release the true figures for consumption by your potential enemies.
There are no RAF Typhoon aircraft left in operation. They were all destroyed like sparrows by a cat in Sunak’s top secret UK military attack on Russia from Estonia. They were useless SHIT, every fact and figure in the official specification document is a lie.
Anglophobes take note: The exercise was in held by France in French airspace.
The thought of the French using MPH is hilarious!
So m/s is their definition of speed.
650 km/hr in metric terms
1 m/s =2.24 mph.
403.2 mph.=180m/s