Typhoon jets provided fire support to the SDF on the Sunday 21st of October.

That evening, an SDF advance came under fire from an Islamic State strong-point five miles north-east of Abu Kamal.

The Typhoon flight conducted a carefully planned attack with a single Paveway IV, which struck the strong-point and immediately eliminated the threat to the SDF, say the MoD.

Operation Shader

By September 2017, the Ministry of Defence had announced that over 1,000 personnel were engaged in theatre and that the Royal Air Force had conducted around 900 airstrikes, flying over 2,200 sorties, killing 3,000 Islamic State fighters.

Last year, it was reported that the Royal Air Force is operating at its most intense for 25 years in a single theatre of operation which far outstripped the UK involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan – RAF jets have dropped 11 times more bombs (1,276 strikes) on Syria and Iraq in the preceding 12 months than they had in the busiest year of action in Afghanistan a decade previously.

As of March last year, the MoD says the operation has cost the UK taxpayers £265 million so far. As of April 2017, 37 Hellfire missiles, 20 Brimstone missiles, 30 unspecified/other armaments were used in the operation against Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

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Nigel Collins
Nigel Collins (@guest_437733)
2 years ago

Why we should be seriously considering thrust vectoring short term for our Typhoon fleet and increasing the numbers until Tempest is delivered in sufficient numbers sometime in the 2030’s.


Glenn Ridsdale
Glenn Ridsdale (@guest_437734)
2 years ago
Reply to  Nigel Collins

TVC has been dropped for good reason. Post stall manoeuvring is very impressive at air shows, but suicidal in combat. That became apparent to the RAF and USAF when IAF Su-30MKIs began bilateral exercises. Speed is life.

John Clark
John Clark (@guest_437742)
2 years ago
Reply to  Glenn Ridsdale

Agreed Glenn, with the advent of modern targeting systems and missiles, post stall manoeuvring makes an aircraft the size of a Flanker little more than a floundering airborne whale of a static target!

They made the right decision back in the 1980’s when they decided to concentrate on supersonic manoeuvrability with the Typhoon.

John Pattullo
John Pattullo (@guest_437777)
2 years ago
Reply to  John Clark

if you read the linked article you’d know that thrust vectoring isn’t about post stall manoeuvrability, its about engine efficiency – reduced fuel consumption – increased thrust – reduced temperatures leading to increased life and finally higher speeds in super cruise – all good stuff and of course you get silly crowd pleasing antics at airshows for free!!

Matt (@guest_437788)
2 years ago
Reply to  Glenn Ridsdale

I might be mistaken but I do remember everyone saying we lost against the Indians during the exercise.

Simon (@guest_437743)
2 years ago

Thanks for posting the article it is very interesting and shows that there are advantages of TVC beyond manoeuvring aircraft. Even if it was just for show if it boosts sales then it still has a place and like conformal fuel tanks (which also don’t seem to be a priority for the raf) these options are available on other aircraft not typhoons. Air combat is not a day to day occurrence and therefore deterrence and prowess are sometimes important for buyers. In the Middle East a lot of purchases seem to be to boost who has the best kit. From… Read more »

Robert Blay
Robert Blay (@guest_437767)
2 years ago

I think having a striker 2 helmet is much more beneficial in combat, air to air or air to ground, then thrust vectoring, vectoring nozzles also come with a significant weight penalty.

Nigel Collins
Nigel Collins (@guest_437775)
2 years ago
Reply to  Robert Blay

Read the Link Robert!

Robert Blay
Robert Blay (@guest_437829)
2 years ago
Reply to  Nigel Collins

That article is 9 years old Nigel.

Nigel Collins
Nigel Collins (@guest_437832)
2 years ago
Reply to  Robert Blay

Correct Robert,

Hence the reason for posting it to show what has been available to improve the Typhoons performance further still and we still don’t have it fitted yet.

DaveyB (@guest_437844)
2 years ago

Gents, I do agree that TVC and conformal fuel tanks would be an additional benefit to an already excellent airframe. However, the RAF have quite rightly concentrated on enhancing the aircraft’s capabilities beyond just an air to air fighter with Project Centurion. OK, this was pushed due to the accelerated retirement of Tornado and the need for a ground attack platform before the F35 became available. I believe the main reason for not pushing for TVC and CFC is due to Meteor and the Captor-E radar. These two have soaked up the majority of the available budget and quite rightly… Read more »

BB85 (@guest_437847)
2 years ago
Reply to  DaveyB

The Radar and Engine improvement are definitely its two most important upgrades.
Captor E seems to be taking forever to develop, I’m not expecting it to be deployed until 2020. Its going to need to be the most advance radar on the world to justify all of these delays, apparently the UK has been pushing to improve its electronic warfare capabilities which pushed back development.

Daveyb (@guest_437861)
2 years ago
Reply to  BB85

Yes, I’ve heard that it’s delayed by at least 13 months due to a number of issues. One of the prime hiccups is the different requirements between Germany and the UK. Not sure what differences these could be, but I know we have asked for more ground moving target mapping capabilities. The other issue it’s facing is that the front end computer it uses is now out of date and the new replacement is currently going through the Release to Service hurdles. There is hope that these problems won’t hold up the Kuwati delivery, as they were earmarked to have… Read more »

Palaboran (@guest_437905)
2 years ago

The Syrian Democratic Forces aren’t in it to promote democracy, that’s for certain.