In a recent Defence Intelligence update released on Tuesday, June 27, 2023, the UK has noted significant advancements by Ukrainian forces in the Eastern Donbas region.

Ukrainian Airborne forces are said to have advanced east from the village of Krasnohorivka, near Donetsk city, which is situated on the old Line of Control.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky echoed this sentiment in his overnight address, calling it a “happy day” for Ukraine. He highlighted the successful counter-offensive movements being made across all fronts, although he did not delve into the specifics.

This update indicates a potential shift in the control of the Donbas region, which has been a major point of contention since Russia’s illegal annexation of the southern Crimean peninsula and parts of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts in 2014.

According to the UK Defence Intelligence update, the Ukrainian assaults throughout the Donbas have likely strained the Donetsk People’s Republic and Chechen forces operating in the area, indicating an effective counter-offensive strategy by the Ukrainian military.

The update reads:

“Ukrainian Airborne forces have made small advances east from the village of Krasnohorivka, near Donetsk city, which sits on the old Line of Control.

This is one of the first instances since Russia’s February 2022 invasion that Ukrainian forces have highly likely recaptured an area of territory occupied by Russia since 2014.

Recent multiple concurrent Ukrainian assaults throughout the Donbas have likely overstretched Donetsk People’s Republic and Chechen forces operating in this area.”

While it remains unclear the extent of the land recaptured by the Ukrainian forces, these latest advances mark a potential turning point in the ongoing conflict.

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George has a degree in Cyber Security from Glasgow Caledonian University and has a keen interest in naval and cyber security matters and has appeared on national radio and television to discuss current events. George is on Twitter at @geoallison
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farouk
farouk (@guest_734548)
10 months ago

On hearing the news Emperor Putinine decided to clamp down in Moscow

Steve M
Steve M (@guest_734550)
10 months ago
Reply to  farouk

😂😂

Jim
Jim (@guest_734570)
10 months ago
Reply to  farouk

It’s quite funny the news coming out today is that the US knew about the Wagner rebellion in advance and only shared the info with the UK not the rest of NATO, like EU NATO members don’t know they are not part of the intelligence club. Not sure if the info came from US or UK source or if it’s possible to even tell given the large number of joint sources involving ECHELON and SIGNIT sources but it reminds me of a quote from the head of GCHQ many years ago talking about having shared European intelligence apparatus and the… Read more »

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_734597)
10 months ago
Reply to  Jim

Well yes. We had this nonsense when Brexit was voted for. Now I know your view on that. What I mean is, all the moans in the media from the usual suspects that it would leave the UK behind and we would be cut off from intelligence. Utter nonsense. The UK is part of the UKUSA agreement, where other European nations are not, or have become 2nd or 3rd party associates at best. So quite logically that sort of info would have been shared bilaterally with the UK and possibly other 5 eyes anglosphere nations. One issue then with that… Read more »

Jim
Jim (@guest_734602)
10 months ago

I agree, much the same as I think the EU agrees, Brussels is still desperate for a UK EU security agreement which Johnson took off the table. In terms of separate UK foreign policy to the US I suppose it’s difficult to view anyone in the west including the USA having a separate foreign policy at-least in defence terms and there is plenty of instances of the UK (Ukraine) or the UK and France in Libya dragging the US in to their foreign policy goals but as we seen in the Falklands with the issues around the UK accessing SIGNIT… Read more »

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_734606)
10 months ago
Reply to  Jim

Talking purely of satellites. After the Zircon debacle of the 80s, I’m only aware of the agreement we made between GCHQ and NSA where we pay into one kind of their numerous constellations to have a part share of all ( and their allocation of target ) or majority share of a single one. Hopefully the new UK small sats being developed under MINERVA will help. Regards other SIGINT, COMINT, ELINT, HUMINT, GEOINT, we also have our own assets to contribute, and we hold our own in other areas such as R&D, crypt, access, facilities, cable intercept, internet access, and… Read more »

Jonathan
Jonathan (@guest_734643)
10 months ago

There were many pros and cons to Brexit. It was not the vote or the way it went that pissed me off it was the BS from both sides that irritated the crap out of me..one of those was around security and defence…like membership of the EU or not had any relation to defence or security services at all…. For me Brexit was alway a question of sovereignty vs easy access to markets, where the rest of the EU thought Political integration was going vs where the UK through integration should end, actually what democracy and representation looks like and… Read more »

Jim
Jim (@guest_734651)
10 months ago
Reply to  Jonathan

Still trying to find a Brexit benefit personally, as is the government, even they can’t name one.

Watcherzero
Watcherzero (@guest_734659)
10 months ago
Reply to  Jim

I know, only this week we learned they diverted money away from Pandemic preparedness to plugging the hole caused by extra bureaucracy in health administration caused by Brexit in 2018, and now that Co-vid is over the government are diverting the money away from health contingency preparedness to plugging the Brexit funding gap again.

Last edited 10 months ago by Watcherzero
Esteban
Esteban (@guest_734669)
10 months ago
Reply to  Jim

The government didn’t vote. You did.

Airborne
Airborne (@guest_734675)
10 months ago
Reply to  Esteban

At least you no longer pretend to be a British citizen as you have claimed previous, in your weak efforts at sad trolling.

Paul.P
Paul.P (@guest_734685)
10 months ago
Reply to  Jim

I think future historians will look back at Brexit as a turning point: the event which marked the UK finally coming to terms with the end of the British Empire. Brexit provides the space for us to ‘move on’. We were using the EU as an economic crutch while blaming it for all our ills instead of taking responsibility. We are celebrating 75 years of the Windrush generation; people who came to our shores as empire Subjects who held onto their culture, identity and self respect to become UK Citizens. Empire is a memory now. We need a new constitutional… Read more »

Nathan
Nathan (@guest_734693)
10 months ago
Reply to  Paul.P

Excellent post. Thoroughly agree with it. EU membership had its benefits which I miss but it also fostered a delusional sense of self importance both politically and economically. Problem I have with Brexit is the powers that be and the civil service haven’t woken up to it yet. They still seem to have a business as usual mindset and 40 yrs enmeshed in the European project has diminished our competence and reduced on capacity for independent thought – I fear this will take decades to resolve. No EU nation or the UK has the economic clout of the US, none… Read more »

Paul.P
Paul.P (@guest_734811)
10 months ago
Reply to  Nathan

I don’t think we ever lost our capacity for independent thought. Quite the contrary, lots of politicians and political activists across the spectrum think they have ‘the answer’. I think it was Winston Churchill who said you can always rely on America to do the right thing….after they have tried every other alternative. You could say the same thing about the UK. We have tried EU membership and were not happy with it. I remember David Cameron drinking a pint with Xi Jinping when China was going to be our saviour. That didn’t work out too well. Liz Truss visited… Read more »

Grizzler
Grizzler (@guest_734897)
10 months ago
Reply to  Paul.P

So is Biden right to use capitalism to curry favour with India . Is might right as long as it’s the right sort of might exerted in the ‘right’ way I doubt that’s showing the Americans adapting their ethos or model of the last 80 years-far from it. Surely if America is still the worlds biggest economic power (even if only just) then we have to accept the influence that has on us, same as India has. Or we can align with 2nd largest economy in China, (like the EU are doing) but look at the issues that brings. I’m… Read more »

Paul.P
Paul.P (@guest_734963)
10 months ago
Reply to  Grizzler

As you say, in its dealings with India the US is looking after itself and its world view; not forgetting that Taiwan produces 60% of the world’s semiconductor chips. I have to say that it’s not clear to me that China’s human rights record is any worse than India’s. To be a Muslim or a Christian in Modi’s India is not a healthy life style choice. I agree with your policy ideas for our economy. We do need to retain sovereign control of infrastructure: water, railways, energy. And we do need to continue the shift towards manufacturing. Security and sustainability… Read more »

Grizzler
Grizzler (@guest_734892)
10 months ago
Reply to  Nathan

Not sure your points are making a consistent arguement for or against so I assume that wasnt your intention. However the issue as I see it is -as you have suggested,-that contrary to many statements from pro-eu bodies both here and in Europe the march towards federalism is the logical end point of the current path of the EU. That is something I could not and cannot accept. The fact we now have to increase our capability in many bureaucratic functions having had that capability reduced by becoming reliant on the EU functions we have now moved away from is… Read more »

John Spiteri
John Spiteri (@guest_736187)
10 months ago
Reply to  Grizzler

Brexit, has fundamentally changed the views of many including myself who voted to remain in the United Kingdom. Our only way to remain in the EU , was to vote to remain in the UK. The fuse has been well and truly lit, and the demographic time bomb is ticking.

Jonathan
Jonathan (@guest_734730)
10 months ago
Reply to  Paul.P

Nicely thought out that man, good post.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_734688)
10 months ago
Reply to  Jonathan

As always, such a balanced post I can only agree with mate.

Old Tony
Old Tony (@guest_734599)
10 months ago
Reply to  Jim

According to Wikipedia (so it must be true) Hollande once applied to join the 5 eyes grouping, making it into 6 eyes. However, he put a condition on this – the other 5 had to agree not to spy on France first. Fortunately this application was vetoed by the Americans.

Jim
Jim (@guest_734603)
10 months ago
Reply to  Old Tony

I did not know that but I’m not necessarily surprised, the US and France have a pretty complicated relationship and history. Remember under Obama when they became Americas “oldest” ally. Did not last long. Unfortunately half of US presidents have a deep hatred of the UK from some perceived historic injustice they learned from some apparent ancestor from the old country or a Mel Gibson movie.

Esteban
Esteban (@guest_734670)
10 months ago
Reply to  Jim

There are a lot of people all around the world that have a deep seated hatred of the UK. You don’t really have to look very far. You have lamb borders with them.

Airborne
Airborne (@guest_734674)
10 months ago
Reply to  Esteban

Oh dear you’re talking about borders again, the US border is a bad one for you, caught and detained then returned a number of times! Must be tough wanting the green card so much and being such a US fanboy but never having the feeling reciprocated.

Airborne
Airborne (@guest_734676)
10 months ago
Reply to  Esteban

Lamb borders? Is that new, a wall made up of small new born animals? Wow is that a thing from the other side of the fence is it! Learn something new every day!

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_734686)
10 months ago
Reply to  Esteban

And even more who don’t. So what is your excuse?

DH
DH (@guest_735689)
10 months ago
Reply to  Esteban

??? ??! Ah well,mint sauce anyone.🧐

Esteban
Esteban (@guest_734919)
10 months ago
Reply to  Jim

Believe what you are told… Odds are if it will lead. It was for a reason

Airborne
Airborne (@guest_735925)
10 months ago
Reply to  Esteban

Gibberish, you need to study more American English!

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker (@guest_734577)
10 months ago
Reply to  farouk

Sergi shoigu better watch for putins force powers. Especially the neck area.
What we do know is putin has mastered the force push as people have been flying out of windows a lot this past year seemingly with nobody touching them.

Last edited 10 months ago by Monkey spanker
Nick C
Nick C (@guest_734600)
10 months ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

We are running a small book here as to which floor he will “fall” from. The current consensus is the sixth, we don’t yet know which building.

Airborne
Airborne (@guest_734624)
10 months ago
Reply to  Nick C

Six floor bungalow window while juggling 6 kitchen knives, dressed as a goat next to his 3 pet lions! It’s called a natural death in Russia!

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker (@guest_734629)
10 months ago
Reply to  Airborne

I will go with he visits a tank factory with putin and while putin inspects the crane controls a turret drops on shoigu.

R W
R W (@guest_734650)
10 months ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

What about a tragic accident while inspecting the muzzle of a t-72

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF (@guest_734653)
10 months ago
Reply to  R W

😁

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF (@guest_734652)
10 months ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

😁

Airborne
Airborne (@guest_734677)
10 months ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

Possibly an issue, experience in Ukraine has shown Russian turrets to always go up before coming down…maybe harder to bluff 😂😂👍

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke (@guest_734636)
10 months ago
Reply to  Airborne

You have stolen my sixth floor window in a bungalow line…..is nothing sacred?

Airborne
Airborne (@guest_734673)
10 months ago

Ah that’s where I remember it from….I will only use it occasionally with permission 😂👍

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF (@guest_734654)
10 months ago
Reply to  Airborne

😁. Heard mention of an incinerator…

Airborne
Airborne (@guest_734678)
10 months ago
Reply to  FormerUSAF

He was just inspecting the interior workings and it just went off guv!

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_734595)
10 months ago
Reply to  farouk

😆 Brilliant.

Irish Al
Irish Al (@guest_734554)
10 months ago

Poor Russians must have run out of tactical shovels.

maurice10
maurice10 (@guest_734555)
10 months ago

Slowly but surely the Ukrainians will take back their homeland. Putin’s rule is under pressure and it remains to be seen if all the recent events will result in a change of leadership? Now is the time to maintain support for Ukraine to guarantee the supply of weapons. Sadly, I don’t see any signs that this war will end anytime soon unless Russian forces drop their weapons and return home on mass.

Nathan
Nathan (@guest_734557)
10 months ago
Reply to  maurice10

Perhaps if Ukraine can follow up any successful military campaign with a magnanimous political settlement for the liberated regions of disputed allegiances; the Russian media may feel compelled to accept the settlement and force Putin’s hands.
Putin is only as strong as the thickness of the fog his media surrounds the people with (goes for all governments).

Barry Larking
Barry Larking (@guest_734561)
10 months ago
Reply to  Nathan

I agree. A magnanimous offer of some kind of recognition of historic rights to the Russian speakers in good faith would be a just and decent outcome.

Jim
Jim (@guest_734575)
10 months ago
Reply to  Barry Larking

It’s hard to see what kind of settlement there can ever be with Putin in charge. I think the Ukrainians would generally be happy to get rid of Crimea and their Russian speaking eastern regions especially if EU membership was on the cards.

But the loss of face in making successions of any kind to an aggressor will be almost impossible.

I can’t see the international community ever recognising the new boarders.

Barry Larking
Barry Larking (@guest_734609)
10 months ago
Reply to  Jim

I agree in part. I don’t think the ‘international community’ (less than half the U.N. at a guess and then mostly unreliable) would wish to see mass expulsions either. I certainly agree nothing can be achieved in any direction until Putin is gone for good.

Glass Half Full
Glass Half Full (@guest_734645)
10 months ago
Reply to  Jim

“I think the Ukrainians would generally be happy to get rid of Crimea and their Russian speaking eastern regions” Nope. Do a google search for “Ukraine oil and gas reserves map”, which are predominantly in the East of Ukraine and surrounding Crimea; all will become clear. There’s a reason Putin first annexed the East and Crimea in 2014 and then invaded in 2022. It has very little to do with a “NATO threat” to Russia which Putin knows to be a fiction. It was all about maintaining and growing a Russian virtual monopoly on gas supplies via pipeline to Europe.… Read more »

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF (@guest_734655)
10 months ago

Hmmm… interesting, previously unaware re gas and oil reserves. Additionally, Donbas is the principal industrialized/manufacturing region. High value (if, purchance, any remains).

grizzler
grizzler (@guest_734598)
10 months ago
Reply to  Barry Larking

I disagree – where’s the justice in that?

Jim
Jim (@guest_734571)
10 months ago
Reply to  Nathan

I think the sight of crowds cheering on Wagner forces headed for Moscow genuinely shocked him, as sanctions continue to get worse more and more people will want rid of him, he looks weak and stupid. Just like Nicholas II.

maurice10
maurice10 (@guest_734591)
10 months ago
Reply to  Nathan

As Rifikin so rightly said, Putin has few close colleagues in the Kremlin even the most senior discuss issues at the end of a 30ft marble desk! There comes a point when the most powerful need the closeness of friends. His sheer isolation could be his downfall if people begin to note a lack of control and leadership. Hitler virtually vanished from public view at the precise time the German people needed him most. This led to disenchantment and when the rot sets in……that’s it, folks.

Marked
Marked (@guest_734556)
10 months ago

John in Moscow will be along soon to tell us all how it’s all part of poo tins master strategy.

farouk
farouk (@guest_734558)
10 months ago

There has been a number of videos released by the Ukrainians of them moving forward and taking the fight to the Russians. I was watching this one of them clearing a Russian trench system, and I couldnt help but notice how well constructed they were . But, Ive got to tip my hat to the Ukrainians for actually taking the fight to the Russians in such well entrenched and defended positions , yes the apologists for Moscow can claim it is only due to NATOs help, but in the great scheme of things, the one thing they never mention is… Read more »

DaveyB
DaveyB (@guest_734562)
10 months ago
Reply to  farouk

Sadly, the Russians have had a few months to build their defences in depth. With some of the fighting, it does make you think how we would have coped with Mavic drones dropping grenades in you trench? It has also been reported that Ukraine has managed to get a few troops across the Dniepro River to the southern shore near Kherson and Nova Kakhovka. Looks like Ukraine are extending the probing to the whole front line now, especially as Wagner are no longer in the fight. Does make you believe they are fixing the Russians in place for a big… Read more »

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF (@guest_734656)
10 months ago
Reply to  DaveyB

Read an account that stated the Russians have developed a virtual replica of the frontline defense network on the land approaches to Crimea. Almost as though the Orcs have an abusing interest in retaining that piece of turf. .🤔😳

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF (@guest_734657)
10 months ago
Reply to  FormerUSAF

… abiding interest ..though abusing interest isn’t a half bad alternative description…🙄🤔😁

Barry Larking
Barry Larking (@guest_734564)
10 months ago
Reply to  farouk

JohninMK boasted on these pages that there would be ‘15,000 battle hardened troops’ (Wagnerian’s?) after the coup that never was free to fight in Ukraine for Putin. Well, here is proof they might be needed.

Posse Comitatus
Posse Comitatus (@guest_734604)
10 months ago
Reply to  Barry Larking

I think ‘Battle hardened ‘ in that context meant prison riots and avoiding surprise sex in the shower block.

John Clark
John Clark (@guest_734618)
10 months ago

I hear Wagner troops refused the Russian Army issued bars of soap for that very reason..🫣🤔🤣

Airborne
Airborne (@guest_734625)
10 months ago

😂😂😂👍

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke (@guest_734565)
10 months ago
Reply to  farouk

Well constructed trenches have well known GPS coordinates!

If you can dig with mini diggers and backhoes then you can dig well fast – better still if you can get ready mix concrete then you can create impressive structures. Just ask Organisation Todt. But they do make such nice fixed targets..

I think the issue is that scared and ill equipped conscripts won’t use those systems as well as you might think they could.

Expat
Expat (@guest_734581)
10 months ago

I think its a shame its taken so long to get agreement to hand over F16s the ability to get higher volumes lower cost JDAMs onto these defences would make a big difference. I stated over a year ago we should have supported Ukraine with western jets, they’d be fully trained by now. Instead it will take another 6 months to give Ukraine what it really should of had 6 months ago.

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke (@guest_734586)
10 months ago
Reply to  Expat

Agree

John Clark
John Clark (@guest_734619)
10 months ago

Absolutely, one things for sure, when this is over, Ukraine won’t find itself in this position again. EU and NATO membership will come. They will become the new Poland, staring the Russian bear directly in the eye and well armed and motivated too. I can see an eventual agreement where the breakaway regions ( what’s left of them after this appalling war) become some sort of demilitarised UN controlled buffer zone for Russian ‘leaning’ folks. That’s a possibility, but Ukraine won’t compromise on Crimea and why should they, drive the bloody Neo Nazi Russians out and over their bridge before… Read more »

farouk
farouk (@guest_734584)
10 months ago

SB wrote: “”If you can dig with mini diggers and backhoes then you can dig well fast “” The British army used to use the LMD (Light Mobile Digger) to quickly dig trenches and dig the basic hole in the ground for us to follow up and put up a MEXE shelter (Used as a command post) https://i.postimg.cc/MZ0RXsMn/Opera-Snapshot-2023-06-27-161957-www-flickr-com.png The only problem I see with the Russian trenches is there is no revetting (We used corrugated iron held in place with angle iron pickets) this is to reinforce them and help mitigate the effects of collapsing walls. Those Russian trenchs are quite… Read more »

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke (@guest_734587)
10 months ago
Reply to  farouk

I agree that the lack of support for deep excavations is a major issue: soil naturally slumps when wet and the sides of the excavations are not battered back at all.

farouk
farouk (@guest_734589)
10 months ago
Reply to  farouk

The MEXE shelter: https://i.postimg.cc/0Q4w13bQ/Ef80gyp-WAAAUIFk.jpg A right pain in the arse to recover at end ex, especially if we had followed the typical NATO exercise plan of retreating in the face of Red forces, which saw us spending most of the time of that so called retreat digging new defensive positions for troops to fall back to (Always at night) then at first light pack up and move back a few miles to harbour up, cam up and wait for night to fall to start again. Then when the Exercise finished and everybody packed up, we (silly sods) had to go… Read more »

Last edited 10 months ago by farouk
Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke (@guest_734568)
10 months ago
Reply to  farouk

Whist I appreciate that the video was chosen and released to show Ukrainian excellence the poorly equipped Russian conscripts clearly don’t have a clue what is going on.

In a lot of cases they are not even able to raise their weapon.

One of the problems with zig zag trench systems is that aural cues are very confused.

As always momentum is key to keep the other side off balance.

Python15
Python15 (@guest_734590)
10 months ago
Reply to  farouk

I watched just such a video and it was impressive to see just how clinically the Ukrainian troops cleared the trenches. You’re trench system can be as impressive as you like but if your attacker has balls of steel and your not on your game, your a dead man!

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke (@guest_734640)
10 months ago
Reply to  Python15

Trained in the UK on Salisbury Plain (or thereabouts).

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke (@guest_734641)
10 months ago

Nice irony that: don’t you think?

Python15
Python15 (@guest_734661)
10 months ago

👍

Posse Comitatus
Posse Comitatus (@guest_734605)
10 months ago
Reply to  farouk

Shows how brutally tough that kind of fighting is. Just wondering, to my untrained eyes, did those Russian troops just basically blunder into the gunfire? They didn’t seem to use any attempt to seek cover or anything. They must have been very raw conscripts.

Barry Larking
Barry Larking (@guest_734610)
10 months ago

Hard to watch frankly. Clueless and now very dead.

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke (@guest_734639)
10 months ago
Reply to  Barry Larking

I found it awful to watch too.

There is no glorification.

However, the Ukrainians are doing what they have to do deal with an illegal and unprovoked invasion.

I regret the loss of life.

Barry Larking
Barry Larking (@guest_734990)
10 months ago

I see the cold reality of what carrying out intentions based on national survival require. Kill or be killed. In the final analysis this comes down to that bast@rd Putin and those who support him on this blog should watch that video and consider.

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke (@guest_734996)
10 months ago
Reply to  Barry Larking

I agree.

The Ukrainians have zero choice: it is war and they didn’t start the war.

Barry Larking
Barry Larking (@guest_734560)
10 months ago

Ukraine may be making slow progress but Russia is making none. Had the Ukrainians an airforce progress might be more speedy. Putin is in what chess players call ‘zugzwang’ – any move is only making things worse, mostly fatal.

Angus
Angus (@guest_734572)
10 months ago

Many Russians do not support this conflict but dare not say or they end up gone in the night. State run by fear is no state at all and will end in doom. A new leader needed? Yes but who? All opposition have been locked up or killed off.
This slow progress will have a high price on both sides. No one wins in war. About time this world woke up to the fact we are NOT CIVILISED by any means whilst we still wage war.

Graham Moore
Graham Moore (@guest_734689)
10 months ago
Reply to  Angus

If Putin goes, one way or the other, his successor might be Medvedev – he is just as ruthless and obsessed with staying in power for decades.

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke (@guest_734997)
10 months ago
Reply to  Angus

Slow progress is progress clearing the tench systems. That was never going to be fast.

Then it is manoeuvre warfare that is opened up.

So when a decent gap in the defences is cleared, and a couple of others for misdirection, then I expect to see the main offensive start.

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker (@guest_734576)
10 months ago

I guess we will see soon if the Ukrainian troops are welcomed by residents or if they get similar treatment the Russians get in areas taken since 2022.
Wouldn’t it be great if Russia pulled its forces back to Russian border and this conflict can end. The death, injuries and destruction is horrific. If the Russians won’t move willingly they will need forces back unfortunately.

Peter tattersll
Peter tattersll (@guest_734594)
10 months ago

It’s simply a sh.. Show by a weak vastly over hyped Russian panto quality military.

The Artist Formerly Known As Los Pollos Chicken
The Artist Formerly Known As Los Pollos Chicken (@guest_734613)
10 months ago

Aye sorry but the headline is a wee bity smokie mirrors.whilst perhaps it’s true Ukraine has retaken several acres of land however on reading the article it’s all very wishy washy. Quote “SMALL” advances outside a village ? Wow that’s mind blowing stuff a village? What’s next an entire town? They’ll have the Donbass back by 2089 for sure at that rate. Then below ….. While it remains UNCLEAR the extent of the land recaptured by the Ukrainian forces, these latest advances mark a POTENTIAL turning point in the ongoing conflict. & HIGHLY LIKELY …..🙈 short of repeating myself for… Read more »

Douglas Newell
Douglas Newell (@guest_734620)
10 months ago

Not bad for nearly a month of “counter offensive” and $100billion of support from we tax payers in the west. How far until they reach the main defence lines?

Airborne
Airborne (@guest_734627)
10 months ago
Reply to  Douglas Newell

It’s going good enough as at this time, but it’s real so you may struggle with the concept of reality vs make believe! I’m sure you could do much better.

Esteban
Esteban (@guest_734667)
10 months ago
Reply to  Airborne

You seem to operate at a very low level… Not sure what the deal is with the constant insults against everyone.

Airborne
Airborne (@guest_734671)
10 months ago
Reply to  Esteban

Nope, only you and our other Nazi troll, everyone else seems reasonable! You seem to operate at an even lower level, not sure what the deal is with the constant anti UK guff!

Barry Larking
Barry Larking (@guest_734991)
10 months ago
Reply to  Airborne

👍

Peter tattersll
Peter tattersll (@guest_734633)
10 months ago
Reply to  Douglas Newell

Had nothing like 100 billion UK money . Anyway Ukraine are beating the cowardly little midget .Putin will go down the most cowardly weak war leader of all time .

Esteban
Esteban (@guest_734668)
10 months ago

That’s because the UK is not actually paying for it. The UK is very good at press releases and chest thumping. Guess who’s paying for it?

Airborne
Airborne (@guest_734672)
10 months ago
Reply to  Esteban

Not you that’s for sure!

Jacko
Jacko (@guest_734682)
10 months ago
Reply to  Esteban

Enlighten us then nobber?

Barry Larking
Barry Larking (@guest_734992)
10 months ago
Reply to  Esteban

Oh, we can do more than that, sunshine!

LINK

The Artist Formerly Known As Los Pollos Chicken
The Artist Formerly Known As Los Pollos Chicken (@guest_735468)
10 months ago

Yo Pete can we have some evidence of this?

I guarantee you provide nothing zip zero because there is no evidence

I don’t say this with glee as I’m neither a supporter of Ukraine or Russia I’m just against this war and the fuelling of it by the West.

On this subject it’s a dull echo chamber of group think by wee bah baah boys constrained by their sheep pens.

Hilarious how the best the London boys can come away with is referring to everybody as Trolls when everybody should be simply looking for the truth………….

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧

Jacko
Jacko (@guest_734634)
10 months ago
Reply to  Douglas Newell

Unlike the Orcs who believe (wrongly) that if you chuck enough meat at a problem that will solve it🙄 Ukr are rightly thinking this through and NOT just throwing their troops lives away! It really doesn’t matter how long it takes does it fast or slow the defence line will still be there but after seeing the Ukr making progress are those Orcs still going to believe in themselves?

Peter tattersll
Peter tattersll (@guest_734635)
10 months ago
Reply to  Jacko

Nail on the head human life worthless to Putin .

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli (@guest_734690)
10 months ago
Reply to  Douglas Newell

It is not Hollywood or a Blitzkrieg. Neither will it be the same to the speed of territory taken when UKR retook Kherson and Kharkiv, where mobility and stretched supply lines played a role. This attack is into prepared positions that Russia has had months to prepare for, on the only realistic front Ukraine can attack from.
I for one am pleased the Ukrainian army is still cautious with its soldiers lives and is degrading the Russians while pinning them in place with numerous smaller attacks.

Graham Moore
Graham Moore (@guest_734691)
10 months ago
Reply to  Douglas Newell

Why do you focus on the money? That is the least important issue here.
Ukraine has got until the late autumn Rasputsitsa to make solid progress. Ukraine must minimise its own casualties for practical and moral reasons and must hit the right places in the Russian lines – it is taking some time to locate the best places.

Wasp snorter
Wasp snorter (@guest_734770)
10 months ago
Reply to  Douglas Newell

If you are that concerned about how tax payers money is spent then why are you not on NHS forums (spend £176 billion) or educational forums (spend £81 billion) which cost much more than the entire Defense budget. Indeed write a letter to Matt Hancock about poor value contracts for Covid, instead what you are really saying is Ukraine should give in and we should accept Russian conquest of lands, because you are pro Russian, and you don’t actually care about UK tax payer value for money. Otherwise why are on here?

Jacko
Jacko (@guest_735041)
10 months ago
Reply to  Wasp snorter

He could also mention the £7m per day spent on illegal immigrants! That would go a long way on other causes🙄

Wasp snorter
Wasp snorter (@guest_735055)
10 months ago
Reply to  Jacko

I forgot about that one, plus Boris’s defence legal team with top KC Barrister paid by taxpayers. That would pay for a couple of missiles for the Ukraine offensive.

Andrew D
Andrew D (@guest_734623)
10 months ago

Wonder how it would of work out if wagner had got to Moscow 🤔

Jonathan
Jonathan (@guest_734649)
10 months ago
Reply to  Andrew D

Honestly…..it could have actually been worse than it is now….the problem for the west is russian seems to be collapsing into a an almost chaotic warlordism….but it’s got the largest nuclear arsenal on the planet…that’s just a
l round bad in the longer term.

Jonathan
Jonathan (@guest_734644)
10 months ago

Looks like Ukraine are seriously into the shaping part of the campaign….what we are all waiting for is for the Russias start to fold to manoeuvre warfare. All those static conscript based formations are hopefully going to get isolated from supply and support and then defeated in detail. Ukraine has until late Oct to early Nov to really do this so plenty of campaign time left for Russia forces to collapse.

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Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker (@guest_734646)
10 months ago
Reply to  Jonathan

While a quick victory is preferred in combat Ukraine are doing the right thing that works for them.
Kherson and Kharkiv had a lot of build up but when they fell they fell fast.
It’s really some of the worst combat anyone has been in.
Minefields everywhere, loads of artillery, dug in positions, loads of drones, some modern weapons in the mix. It couldn’t be much harder.

Peter tattersll
Peter tattersll (@guest_734694)
10 months ago

The days of Russian propaganda making out they had a high end top military are over paper tiger power’s look good on paper in reality nothing much to offer .Its incredible a brown water navy like Russian can’t come out of port against Ukraine with no navy imagine Russian navy up against a blue water standard navy no contest. Russian air force scared to fly deep over border .. Useful idiots have swallowed all this mighty Russia rubbish for decades . Putin scared of his own shadow the weakest war time leader Ukraine could wish for .

Bringer of facts
Bringer of facts (@guest_734804)
10 months ago

Slightly off topic , but it annoys me when our press reports that Russia is running out of weapons/troops and ordinance, it is clearly not the case otherwise Ukrainians would have pushed Russias forces back to the borders by now.

Again, the Wagner rebellion was interesting, but does not appear to have changed the direction of the war for Russia. Some analysts are speculating it was staged as some kind of ruse to blindside Ukraine, while Wagner redeploys to Belarus, putting them within strking distance of Kyiv.

Wasp snorter
Wasp snorter (@guest_734818)
10 months ago

But they are running out, a lot of new gear is either reserve, Iranian drones or Chinese or Iranian ordnance, they did run out of men which is why they then conscripted more than 300k of new recruits and paid millions to mercenary groups. None of that would happy if all was well. The military intervention has turned into total war for them. In terms of the Wagner rebellion, I don’t think it’s a ruse, it’s too clever, they would simply redeploy if that was the plan without some elaborate hoax. Putin would never make himself so weak, for what,… Read more »

Barry Larking
Barry Larking (@guest_734993)
10 months ago

It is a weird ‘cunning plan’ that involves shooting down your own sides air assets.