With the speculation surrounding the future of the Albion class, we take a look at what they do.

We’re going to take a look at what various people have to say on the matter as well as try to explain what the ships are actually for.

First of all, what do they actually do?

In the words of her operators, the Royal Navy, the role of the HMS Bulwark and HMS Albion, is to ‘deliver the punch of the Royal Marines ashore by air and by sea, with boats from the landing dock in the belly of the ship and by assault helicopter from the two-spot flight deck’.

The LPDs can carry 256 troops, with their vehicles and combat supplies, and this can be swollen up to 405 troops.

The ships act as the afloat command platform for the Royal Navy’s Amphibious Task Force and Landing Force Commanders when embarked.

What do senior officers and politicians say?

Former Commander UK Maritime Forces, Rear Admiral Alex Burton, was very clear that the ability of the UK to land forces in a contested environment would be heavily diminished.

A former Defence Secretary has warned that withdrawing the Albion class would ‘end British amphibious capability’. Lord Hutton was speaking during a debate on British defence forces in the House of Lords where he said:

“I am absolutely opposed to the United Kingdom acting unilaterally—for example, by announcing the end of our effective amphibious capability. I do not believe that the QE2 class carriers—they are brilliant ships and I am proud to see them serving in the Royal Navy—have the equivalent capability. Neither do the Bay class ships. They are incapable of supporting and mounting large-scale amphibious operations with the fighting vehicles that the Army now has.

Our experience in Iraq and Afghanistan led us, rightly, to conclude that they needed to be better protected: they needed to be stronger, heavier vehicles. We need “Bulwark” and “Albion” to retain that capability. So we must tread pretty carefully. I am all in favour of the defence industry co-operating with government in the efficiency review: I think they should. I am certainly in favour of our thinking carefully about how we use the overseas aid and defence budgets together to secure greater security results.

HMS Albion operating at night.

But it is hard to avoid the obvious conclusion that we will need to spend more now to preserve UK effective capabilities. The painful lesson from history is that spending less on defence does not make us more secure; it does not make those threats go away, it just makes us less able to deal with them.”

Lord West of Spithead, a Former First Sea Lord, has argued that Britain’s security and prosperity requires amphibious capability. Writing in Politics Home, the former naval chief argues for the retention of the vessels that rumours say may be axed.

He states:

“Under fire particularly, it seems, is our invaluable amphibious capability. So what exactly is this amphibious capability? Britain’s security and prosperity requires unimpeded maritime access and transit. As an island nation, the country needs a broadly maritime strategy – one that has sea control at its core, but which enables power and influence to be projected inland. Indeed, being an island, all operations beyond our shores are expeditionary and demand theatre entry. Strike carriers and amphibious forces are the enablers for this theatre entry capability. The true fighting power of a navy is its ability to ensure entry around the world using carrier air and amphibious forces and to cause sea denial using carrier air and SSNs. Since 1945 this entry capability has been used over 10 times including Korea, Suez, Kuwait (1962) pre-empting Iraqi planned invasion, Brunei, Falkland Islands, Sierra Leone and the Al Faw. And the Royal Marines have been in almost continuous operations consisting of 30 different campaigns.”

What about our allies?

American General Ben Hodges, former commander of the US Army in Europe, has said that he was worried that British forces were already stretched too far. The General was quoted in the Financial Times as saying:

“British forces have global commitments right now. Any reduction in capability means you cannot sustain those commitments. That creates a gap. I don’t know what the magic number is, but I do know that we need the capability that the British army provides, and any reduction in that causes a problem for the alliance as well as for the United States.”

Hodges served as a battalion executive officer with the 101st Airborne before becoming Aide-de-camp to the Supreme Allied Commander Europe in August 1995. He became a battalion commander in the 101st Airborne in 1997. He was Congressional Liaison Officer at the Office of the Chief of Legislative Liaison between 1999 and 2000.

After graduating from the National War College in 2001, Hodges served at the Joint Readiness Training Center at Fort Polk. Taking command of the 1st Brigade of the 101st Airborne in 2002, Hodges led the brigade in Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Not long ago, American Colonel Dan Sullivan said cuts to the Royal Marines and the loss of two amphibious assault ships would change the military relationship between the US and UK.

“My message is to articulate how important having that capability in our partner is. And how damaging I think it would be if our most important coalition partner potentially takes the hits that are projected right now. If you want to be decisive you have to be able to project power ashore at some point.

From a military standpoint as the UK continues to diminish and as the Royal Marines in particular take a hit, I think that our view of what we will be able to do together in the future changes.”

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George has a degree in Cyber Security from Glasgow Caledonian University and has a keen interest in naval and cyber security matters and has appeared on national radio and television to discuss current events. George is on Twitter at @geoallison
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Pete ( the original from years ago)
Pete ( the original from years ago)
2 months ago

Could / should be partly funded by foreign aid budget and seasonally deployed to the Caribbean during storm season … perfect resources to deliver emergency aid, heavy machinery, engineering and field hospital support.

Ian M.
Ian M.
2 months ago

Lateral thinking there!

Geoff Roach
Geoff Roach
2 months ago

Very good idea.

Ian
Ian
2 months ago

It would be madness in the current geopolitical environment to accept any further reductions in real capability, but the phrase ‘land forces in a contested environment’ caught my attention. What does ‘contested’ mean in this context? A D-Day-style ‘contested’ landing would mean taking casualties to a degree that is not in keeping with modern doctrine. During the Falklands War the landing at San Carlos was a deliberate attempt to avoid a contested landing, which it would have been if the fleet had been able to gain air supremacy. So- what the article doesn’t really answer is: In what specific circumstance… Read more »

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  Ian

There’s contested and contested. Nobody is suggesting D-Day landings or targetting enemy strong points, but if you need to land a force and the enemy spot you, you are likely to take fire. Are we going to bet military lives on that not happening or are we gong as best prepared as we can? Specific conops change more quickly than it takes to fund, spec and build a ship. (In the case of the Army, many times more quickly). Most of them involve survival.

Tim
Tim
2 months ago

If losing this capability increases type 23/45 availability then MAYBE it’s not all bad.

Same goes for scrapping the most warn out type 23 to prevent them taking up all the doc yard availability and causing a queue!

DC647
DC647
2 months ago
Reply to  Tim

Instead of losing this capacity we suspend the operation of one of the status symbols namely a aircraft carrier which we don’t have sufficient surface ships and f35s to operate comfortably and transfer the crew to both Ablion class.

Grizzler
Grizzler
2 months ago
Reply to  DC647

Seems a good idea to.me….or rent the other carrier to another friendly nation that needs one ..The French/The EU/USMC and use the money to fund these ships.

Gunbuster
Gunbuster
2 months ago
Reply to  DC647

Ok transfer the crews. Except the engineering and weapon engineering fits are completely different requiring extensive retraining and qualification on the kit which would take upwards of a year to get SQEP. QE= GT HV Alternators LPD= DG HV Watchkeepers would all need to requalify on the plant. Magazine custodians would need to qualify on the safety and firefighting systems. Indepth system knowledge down to secondary power supplies, fuse panels, JBs, system interactions would be nonexistent. When I joined Bulwark it took me a solid 4 months to get up to speed on the systems, magazines safety, FFDC and I… Read more »

DC647
DC647
2 months ago
Reply to  Gunbuster

Even a year without is better than not having at all. That is using the jobs worth attitude if it was made a priority the time scale could be cut down with the right attitude. Next you’ll quote health and safety. Did I suggest transferring all the crew to both the Albion class as a job lot. Transfer them around the fleet. The majority of the current crews of the Albion class would stay. The freed up crew from one of the QE class would be spread about all classes of ship to be trained on the spot by experienced… Read more »

DC647
DC647
2 months ago
Reply to  Gunbuster

Sorry my comment did say tranfer the crew to the two Albion class I should have worded it differently. It should have been transfer some of the crew.

DC647
DC647
2 months ago
Reply to  Gunbuster

Are/were you navy or army you user name is a WW2 term for the RAOC.

Gertrude
Gertrude
2 months ago
Reply to  Tim

I don’t think it would, they currently aren’t affecting escort availability. On top of this the uk doesn’t seem to be running escorts and instead are using escorts in singular tastings with most escort duties for Carriers being from allied nations.

Frank62
Frank62
2 months ago

Our amphibious capability is already rock bottom with the Albions & bays. Cutting further makes no sense & just tells Rusia, China etc we’re even less of a deterrent.
Insanity. Shame on HMG for even considering it. They seem to serve our enemies rather than the UK.

Last edited 2 months ago by Frank62
ABCRodney
ABCRodney
2 months ago

Like everyone else I am horrified by the idea of us reducing the Navy even further but De-commisiining either the 2 LPD’s and or 2 T23’s is an effect. The underlying cause is lack of trained crews and that seems to be endemic to all 3 services. We can scream blue bloody murder all we want about losing this ship or that but without crews they are completely useless. The Worst thing is that the fewer resources we have still have cover the same Tasking so the ships and crews get worked even harder. Just for once I’d like to… Read more »

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
2 months ago

Don’t let any politician tell you the Bays can do what these ships can. They cannot.
I still think all this is speculation based on options the admiralty board themselves have drawn up, and will be discarded just like all the other times.

Carriers/naval aviation, SSN, Amphibs, and the RFA are the 4 core pillars that the RN should be built around and that should not change.

LongTime
LongTime
2 months ago

DM For Defence Secretary, need someone who actually understands the difference between deployable and total number l! NOT just financial costing sheets

klonkie
klonkie
2 months ago

well said DM – hope the MOD bothered to read this piece and learn something.

Davi Pinheiro
Davi Pinheiro
2 months ago

The natural destination of these ships would be the Brazilian Navy. Brazil currently operates a single dock vessel, NDM “Bahia”, the 10,000 t former “Siroco” from France. Albion and Bulwark would operate in conjunction with the former HMS Ocean, currently NAM Atlântico. If the United Kingdom is really interested in selling these ships, they will make a proposal to Brazil. And my bet is that the Brazilian Navy will be interested.

DC647
DC647
2 months ago

Blaming lack of personal surely they could suspended operations of one of the aircraft carriers for the simple reason we don’t have sufficient surface ships to operate two comfortably plus we don’t have enough f35s for both could transfer the crew from one A/C. We could operate Ablion class which if needed could deliver upto 8 challenger2s plus over 500 marines plus upto 4 helos where needed. They are better equipped for disaster relief using their landing craft and helos to deliver aid. Some people on here will think it’s a stupid idea because they think it’s more prestige to… Read more »

LongTime
LongTime
2 months ago
Reply to  DC647

There’s a good chance QNLZ will be dry docked soon

DC647
DC647
2 months ago
Reply to  LongTime

Would be a good opportunity to upgrade to cats and traps would relieve pressure on crew shortages for a couple of years.

LongTime
LongTime
2 months ago
Reply to  DC647

Not happening in my opinion and would definitely kill the amphibs off the cat layout that’s done the round would probably cost close to if not over a Billion. As It appears to be a deck off job.

it’d be interesting to have GunBuster view on QNLZ maintenance but when she last went to dry dock in 2019 they said 5-6 year before she required it again and year 5 be upon us.

DC647
DC647
2 months ago
Reply to  LongTime

It was shorted sighted in the first place the cats and traps not been fitted. It was only going to cost 1.5 billion for both at construction. The marines not having amphibs is like the paras not having planes. I just hope it turns out the ark royal project is feasible and its taken to its full potential. Just imagine having f35s and a different fighter, double the carriers operational capabilites. Never been a fan of restricting the carriers to one plane.

Gunbuster
Gunbuster
2 months ago
Reply to  LongTime

Lloyds inspections are a mandated inspection at around the 5A point. Mostly inspections of underwater fittings, sea valves and boxes, paint scheme, props and shafts and rudders. Some you can do using divers if Lloyds agree. Sea valves are usually the issue for every vessel. They eventually leak/pass and need an overhaul or replacement. In water that’s divers, cofferdams, internal blanks after the valve is removed and its a real pain. In dock is obviously easier. Structural inspections , FFDC, electrical systems , main propulsion checks etc are also done but these are usually on a rolling programme throughout the… Read more »

LongTime
LongTime
2 months ago
Reply to  Gunbuster

Cheers for the info as always GB So In some respect up to Lloyds inspectors if she needs to dry dock or sit alongside for an extend period as well as refit/overhaul schedule. Knew they did for civil but assumed RN would tell them when and where learn something new everyday, off to download “reg4ships” now for some bedtime reading. Having changed a fair number of seacocks on small yachts and motor boats. Can’t say I’d want to intentionally replace one afloat, imagine it causes quite the mess, if it happens in an emergency fine under normal conditions il do… Read more »

DeeBee
DeeBee
2 months ago

What do they do? Pretty much sod all these days!!

Val
Val
2 months ago

What they do? Built for a cheap price but provide news for shit politicians who do not give a fuck!

Gavin Gordon
Gavin Gordon
2 months ago

Just watched the Forces News video on Shapps’ statement in the Commons. Think back to the open and frank manner in which his predecessor, Wallace faced parliamentary questioning; both Commons & Defence Committee, and interviews generally – compared to this new example of a ‘Defence Secretary’. What a shifty character, mostly failing to maintain eye contact. His statement, that, ‘Albion & Bulwark had already served twice their intended life, 18yrs x 2 & more…’ appeared to result in nothing but puzzlement from benches on both sides of the Chamber with members trying to make sense of it – something I’m… Read more »