Nigel Evans Conservative MP for Ribble Valley asked a written parliamentary question regarding the running costs for the Type 23, Type 45 and yet to be built Type 31e.

Guto Bebb, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Defence, responded:

“The average annual running cost for a Type 23 Frigate and a Type 45 Destroyer is approximately £11 million and £13.5 million respectively. These figures have been rounded to the nearest £100,000.

The Type 31e programme is in its pre-procurement phase and it is therefore premature to provide an estimate of running costs. The costs given include those items that are directly attributable to the ship, such as personnel costs, fuel and port visits and do not include such items as maintenance, training and generation costs.”

Bebb also responded to a question regarding the build country of the Type 31e Frigate:

“The National Shipbuilding Strategy (paragraph 92) was clear that for reasons of national security, the UK prioritises the need to retain the ability to design, build and integrate warships.”

 

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Gunbuster
Gunbuster
2 years ago

The maintenance budget for T23 has been reduced by 1/3 for this year. More of the usual do more with less scenarios.

Paul.P
Paul.P
2 years ago

I note the comment ‘build and integrate’ and interpet it to mean that Type 31 will get the BAE combat management system.

Marcus
Marcus
2 years ago
Reply to  Paul.P

Thales will have a different view for the BMT offering – they will integrate a Thales Mission System in the UK.

Ian
Ian
2 years ago

So, our entire escort fleet is run for £1/4bn a year.

That’s astonishing value for money. Even doubling that for better pay rates / T&Cs, testing, live fire etc and doubling the fleet would run at £1b pa from a £36b budget.

Surely there can’t be a better use of funds than this?

Liam
Liam
2 years ago
Reply to  Ian

Well said

Lewis
Lewis
2 years ago

Que Labour demanding we scrap them so all that money can be poured into the benefits system.

Levi Goldsteinberg
Levi Goldsteinberg
2 years ago
Reply to  Lewis

Or more money to disappear in the bloody inefficient NHS’ budget blackhole

Paul.P
Paul.P
2 years ago

Whoa! As I understand it on any international comparison of costs v outcomes the NHS is extraordinarily efficient.

marc
marc
2 years ago
Reply to  Paul.P

Are you on drugs?

Pacman27
Pacman27
2 years ago

Fantastic value for money in my opinion, although it is getting really tedious how non transparent the MOD are.

This is really simple.

Cost of buying (Capital Cost)
Cost of maintaining (Support Cost)
Cost of Operations ( Day to Day Cost)

Add in R&D and De-commisioning and depreciation and you have a cost profile for the lifecycle of any asset. This is standard practice in most organisations, so why can’t the MOD do this.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
2 years ago
Reply to  Pacman27

Because there is some very funny stuff going on with taxpayers money?

Paul.P
Paul.P
2 years ago
Reply to  Pacman27

Trouble is how do you depreciate a Type 45 destroyer that’s had a couple of refits? And what’s the value of a disused airfield in the middle of nowhere? Public sector accounting generally focusses on just current income ( tax revenue), expediture and borrowing.

Ron5
Ron5
2 years ago
Reply to  Pacman27

What makes you think they don’t?

Mr J Bell
Mr J Bell
2 years ago

The NHS is a very efficient health service but then there are very few health services that are comparable or efficient to compare it with. We certainly get a lot of productivity and care delivered for not much outlay. There are efficiency the NHS could easily make. 1) end all the non jobs that offer no actual benefit to patients and do not deliver any care, 20-30,000 posts would be suitable for cutting back. Each with a band 6/7 salary so £32-41k per annum 2) remove the tiers of managers put in place between clinical departments and the executive boards… Read more »