A Boeing E-3D Sentry has returned to its home base at RAF Waddington following its final mission on Operation SHADER, bringing to a close 30 years of operational service.
The Royal Air Force say here in a news release:
“The E-3D Sentry aircraft flew its final operational sortie on the 30th July over Iraq as part of the counter-Daesh Operation SHADER. The aircraft from 8 Squadron had been deployed to RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus and was the latest and last deployment since 2015.
The aircraft returned to RAF Waddington in Lincolnshire on 4th August and was greeted by Air Vice-Marshal Al Marshall, the Air Officer Commanding Number 1 Group and also Major General Thomas Kunkel United Stated Air Force Commanding Officer of the NATO Airborne Early Warning and Sea Control Force.”
Describing the aircraft’s lengthy service, the Commander of the Intelligence, Surveillance, Targeting and Reconnaissance Force, Air Commodore Hay Commander said:
“Sentry’s return from a hugely successful overseas deployment heralds a fitting end to over 30 years of continuous service in support of NATO, other coalition and national operations. Whether operating from their home base at Waddington or airfields from across Europe and the broader Middle East, Sentry has contributed by providing a Recognised Air and Maritime Picture that has enabled others to operate with significant freedom of action against the most hostile of threats.”
The Royal Air Force say that during the period between retirement and the Wedgetail becoming operational, the Intelligence, Surveillance, Targeting and Reconnaissance requirements will be covered by a combination of other aircraft and E-3s from the NATO Airborne Early Warning and Control Force.
What is the NATO Airborne Early Warning and Control Force?
Under NATO Allied Air Command’s operational control, the Airborne Early Warning and Control Force operates a fleet of Boeing E-3A ‘Sentry’ Airborne Warning & Control System aircraft, better known as AWACS. These aircraft provide members with an immediately available air and maritime surveillance as well as airborne command and control and air battle management capability.
NATO say on their website that the Airborne Early Warning and Control Force is “the Alliance’s largest collaborative venture”.
“A venture that exemplifies NATO’s ability to facilitate multinational cooperation and to exploit the benefits of that the pooling of resources can bring.”
Further confirmation of this came recently thanks to a written Parliamentary question.
Mark Francois, Member of Parliament for Rayleigh and Wickford, asked:
“To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, what estimate he has made of the date on which the (a) last E-3D sentry aircraft will be retired from operational service and (b) first E-7 Wedgetail will achieve initial operating capacity in Royal Air Force service.”
Jeremy Quin, Minister of State at the Ministry of Defence, responded today:
“We will retire the E-3D Sentry from operational service later in 2021, as part of the transition to the more modern and more capable fleet of three E-7 Wedgetail aircraft, which are expected to enter service in December 2023. The United Kingdom remains part of the NATO AEW&C Force Headquarters.”
Wedgetail (pictured above) is an airborne early warning and control system, commonly known as AWACs or AEW&C. They are designed to track multiple targets at sea or in the air over a considerable area for long periods of time.This aircraft is replacing the E-3D Sentry, pictured below.
What is the status of Wedgetail?
The UK recently cut its order for five E-7 aircraft to three. The Defence Command Paper released earlier in the year, titled ‘Defence in a Competitive Age‘, states:
“We will retire the E 3D Sentry in 2021, as part of the transition to the more modern and more capable fleet of three E 7A Wedgetail in 2023. The E 7A will transform our UK Airborne Early Warning and Control capability and the UK’s contribution to NATO. The nine P-8A Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft will help to secure our seas. The introduction into service of the 16 long range Protector remotely piloted systems will be the backbone of persistent, multi spectral surveillance, with the ability to strike and act decisively against our potential adversaries around the globe.”
You can read more about that here. You can also read more about the status of the first E-7 for the Royal Air Force by clicking here or clicking the link below.
What is the NATO Airborne Early Warning and Control Force?
Under NATO Allied Air Command’s operational control, the Airborne Early Warning and Control Force operates a fleet of Boeing E-3A ‘Sentry’ Airborne Warning & Control System aircraft, better known as AWACS. These aircraft provide members with an immediately available air and maritime surveillance as well as airborne command and control and air battle management capability.
NATO say on their website that the Airborne Early Warning and Control Force is “the Alliance’s largest collaborative venture”.
“A venture that exemplifies NATO’s ability to facilitate multinational cooperation and to exploit the benefits of that the pooling of resources can bring.”
Though we are all taking holidays at home this year, the MOD is well ahead of the curve, they have been enjoying capability holidays at home for years now.
Might I suggest we re-establish the Royal Observer Corps…..
The UK are in NATO. Presumably they csn fill the gap for a year or two. Not much too much to ask considering the huge commitments the UK has made to NATO/Europe for many many decades.
Very true, I would hope that’s the agreement, enough people ride our coattails in Europe, about time the favour was returned.
Whilst NATO can fill this capability gap until Wedgetail enters service in Dec 23, the capability we will have lost is the ability to deploy such an asset independent of NATO, where such a scenario might only be in UK interests, not necessarily those of NATO!
Agreed that it may not happen, but nevertheless…..
Unless all the staff of the E-3 are made redundant how exactly are we going to lose the ability to deploy wedgetail without NATO?
Between Dec21-Dec23 we will have no aircraft in our inventory, so can’t deploy anything, hence the capability loss.
The staff are/can be embedded in NATO/Aus/US units to keep skillset.
Mate, there are already RAF personnel here in Oz training and learning on our 6 E-7A aircraft.
But I suspect there is a limit as to the number of RAF personnel we could absorb without interfering with our own training and operational needs (unless they are permanent transfers?).
I’m sure the Australian Government and RAAF are happy to assist, but there will be limits.
Cheers,
Back in the day I worked at RAf Farnbourgh with some light blue Nimrod crews, they had a exchange crewman from NZ attached to the unit, so this exchange stuff has been going on for years I imagine.
Have to agree, you need to look to your own requirements first, then offer help. Im sure uncle Sam will chip in with AWACS trg should we need to stay current as it were.
Enjoy your day/night whatever it is over there at the moment.
I’ve mentioned this before John, the reason we are only buying three is we are planning on nicking a couple of yours … Off for a training flight one day and we won’t bring it back!!
That’s the issue isn’t it. An acceptable gap in the context of UK and European defence but it means we can’t deploy independently of NATO. Even on something like Op Shader presumably we’re now relying on US aircraft for over-watch.
Even once we get 3 Wedgetails the RAF will do well to have more than 1 available for operations outside of the UK.
As @DM points out below. HMG is risk taking, in their view obviously an acceptable one!
As many have posted, the new force is going to be made up of mixed asset, of which Wedgetail is only a part of. Not sure how it’s all going to work, but time will tell I imagine.
You mean exactly how us, the US and others rely on each others plane refueling, ship refueling at sea, Intelligence gathering, space assets……..
Its not a new thing and if it enables us to save few million in repairing old systems while we get the new ones then good on them for facing up to the real life financial situation. There is no moe cash for time being.
People on here are critising them cutting to 3 wedgetails, yes its not ideal but its a platform we can live with 3. We usually deploy taking it in turns with USA or Nato assets so the only time it will be an issue is if we stand alone and lets face it we wont be taking china on alone so 3 should be fine especially if it means more platforms else where. These type of awacs will probably be replaced with drones in 20 years.
For Gods sake can we buy standard platforms this time instead of altering everything so its incredibly expensive to keep flying
The E3D was a standard E3A with UK ESM for compatibility with other UK assets and an AAR probe for Tanking. Neither of these are the cause of the aircraft’s demise. The UK E3s have had no investment other than a radar update early in its life. The aircraft were worked very hard in its early in-service life. The Mission system needs replacing and radar further updates equally important the Navigation system is out of date and the aircraft needs a complete cockpit upgrade. Additionally the airframe is old and suffering from fatigue and other problems. Its not until you open up the wings and other inaccessible areas on aircraft like the 707 that the scale of problem becomes clear. Standard upgrade packages are available from Boeing for the Cockpit and mission and radar systems and were at one time in the MOD budget. The airframe is the more problematic area which I suspect tipped the scales in favour of replacement. I would love to know how the French have managed?. Their E3s were off the same production line and were essentially the same as the UK aircraft and they have been content to have all the latest upgrade packages and I guess Air France has maintained the airframe. It might have been sensible for the UK to join with France on the airframe issues. In 20 years time the UK E7 will be in the same position as the E3D if there isn’t a planned and funded upgrade programme with proper investment at the right time. Otherwise we are going down another dead end just like the Sentinel.
Good luck getting NATO to fly their E-3 in support of the QE CV group.
You’ve got exactly one note haven’t you?
Can’t believe only 3! are being bought, that means only 1 could be available for operational sorties.
It suggests to me that those in power see a different approach coming down the road in 15-20 years, some sort of large, long endurance AEW drone, perhaps even an all encompassing GTR capability too….
Three airframes seem to be somewhat of a stopgap measure, perhaps with 15 years service in mind before being sold off….
The technology and reliability needs to improve though, we can plant a Watchkeeper in a smoking hole in the ground and say oops, best get another from the warehouse …. But a large high end drone with sophisticated radar and processing tech is going to be very expensive indeed!
Its going to be unaffordable……..once again existing capabilities are axed or cut in numbers on the basis of a pie in the sky idea that will cost far more to create and develop than those existing capabilities…….the UK has a terrible record of going down this road and then left wanting after billions have been flushed down the toilet. When you consider the problems encountered with what was supposed to be the simplest option for maritime AEW – Crowsnest, which actually utilises existing kit, how on earth can anyone seriously believe we can create a drone capable of doing the job of an E7?
I’m sure it will come, the technology is advancing at an incredible pace, 15 years from now such a beast will be flying.
There’s a reason Uncle Sam’s in no rush to replace the E3 in USAF service.
That is the concern for a lot of us I think. It also means we can really only support one area, if we’re wanting to deploy one out of area then we might be screwed.
One of the E3s has been sold to the US Navy for 15mil USD . It means that the USN can do pilot training in that aircraft without putting extra hours on the dedicated E6 Tacamo/Mercury planes so saving air frame time.
The RAF is doing quite well at flogging off stuff to the USN…They flogged a Herc J to the USN Blue Angels display team for 30mil not long ago. Its now known flying with them an is known as Fat Albert!
Don’t forget the harriers which were sold the the USMC, which is itself part of the department of navy.
Losing Sentinel now Sentry and I believe I read the new Wedgetails will be based at Lossiemouth, Is Waddington getting closed soon cause it’s getting emptied out quick?
No, nowhere near! It is one of the RAF’s busiest locations.
Red Arrows moving there. And ops wise –
Shadow with 14 Sqn.
Rivet Joint with 51 Sqn.
Reaper GS, Protector coming with 13 and 39 Sqns.
The AWC HQ, AIC, various AWC divisions, and associated EW / Sigint / ISTAR stuff ( 1 ISRW ) conveniently close to Digby up the road.
Lots of other bits and pieces.
Not a chance.
NATO available.
UKADR unaffected.
3 E7s incoming with UAV in future which is why I think the E7 purchase was reduced.
Deeps comment on an independent capability in a UK only situation is valid.
Guess that is another risk HMG take in the short term.
Not the first time and this is not the worst of them.
Waiting for something in the future that isn’t even at the earliest of stages is just the MODs new excuse for not buying enough of anything.
I appreciate developments move quickly but this new approach is no better then fitted for but not with strategy
You might well be right James.
Save us moaning here what can be done?
My MP won’t know the difference from a Sentry or a Sentinel, or probably has never heard of them.
There’s no alternative save civil war clearing out the big 3 parties and a more defence minded party in place! Snd public care little. So, I look to what is positive, that 3 modern AWACS are incoming.
Pity it’s not 5.
So only 3. That means 1 for training, 1 on standby alert to scramble for Russian bombers and 1 in maintenance/upgrading.
Every time the Russians send bombers to poke the Brits fighters, tankers and and E-3 are scrambled. Is NATO going to scramble an E-3 every time this happens now? lol
Considering the Russians are monitored by dozens of other radar including civil probably not.
Find it very hard to believe AWACS is used every time. No need if the bombers are medium altitude. The c3 side is controlled by CRCs, ground based.
The ground based radars have the same weaknesses as the radars on ships being the radar horizon. This is why the commander of the QESG requested and got E-3 coverage. A high flying AEW plane provides more warning especially of low flying cruise missiles, planes, UAVs, ect.
Obviously!
It is what it is. We had a similar issue in the Falklands.
A capability is gapped. There you go.
Given that we are taking a short capability gap, I’d say it’s certain AWACS isn’t used every time.
What do you suppose happens now when Russian aircraft fly around the coast of Norway? NATO operates its AWACS fleet from four formal forward bases including one located close to Trondheim. NATO may also operate its AWACS from other airfields. That’s in addition to the network of military surface radar stations in Norway, Iceland and the UK that are parts of NATO’s IADS along with any surface naval vessels operating in the Norwegian sea.
As ever Daniele, totally agree mate.
I appreciate that they are old and expensive to operate now as we didn’t update them as we spent all our money on Afghanistan but what is the reasoning for having a capability gap.
Furthermore is 3 wedgetails really a capability or a token one, can you deploy one and cover QRA still?
The issue is, as ever, that they were UK modded.
Once that is done UK MOD has to fund that upgrade pathway and all the integrations to it. For some of these things that simply isn’t worth the candle anymore.
Are they that obsolete that we couldn’t get a couple of years out of them? Or really not worth it
Not really worth it.
They have missed several upgrade cycles already and using ancient computers and systems, that spares will be a massive problem for, this has its own shelf life.
If I was to take a guess, I do not know this, I would say the data has been forced on RAF when they ran out of critical bits of electronics to rob from the other airframes.
Where did this come from? The UK E3s were not heavily UK modified they were bought with the French E3s off the same production line and Boeing drove hard for commonality between the two to make the package affordable. for all. The French E3s are just completing their upgrade to the latest Block 40/41 standard ours are headed for the breakers yard – what a testament to the way we manage our aircraft.
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RAF signed a servicing agreement with Northrop Grumman in 2005 for the E3D after a competitive tender, ostensibly the type would then have received UK unique upgrades…these never happened and instead RAF Sentry missed out on the standard upgrades that the international E-3 fleet received. French E-3F have been through Block 30/35 and the more recent Block 40/45 upgrades. The problem is the Block 40/45 upgrade is built off work already done in 30/35, if you miss out on the former it makes the latter prohibitively complex and expensive. This is on the MOD deciding to go for a support contract that held the UK fleet separate from the international fleet standard.
Agreed – so called SMART procurement and no one in the RAF seemed to see this coming!
We don’t use AEW for QRA. 👍
plenty of UK AWACS orbits though.
Apparently we have done.
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/typhoon-jets-ongoing-operation-intercept-russian-aircraft-off-scottish-coast/
3 years ago. Using AEW isn’t a common practice, and a AEW asset isn’t held on QRA. A Voyager tanker deploys when the Typhoons launch.
Typhoons and Voyager yes, E3 no. Not for a standard QRA alert anyway. Are you a veteran Dan?
Correct. i worked on E3D when they were arriving from Wichita. It most definitely wasn`t a QRA aircraft.
Whenever Russian bombers are heading towards Britain fighters, a tanker and an AWACS are launched. Standard operating procedure. At least it was.
Have they ever covered QRA?
Only aircraft I’m aware of covering QRA is the standby tanker at Brize Norton.
The existing ground based ASCS and NATOs RAP work with QRA.
So the 3 E7 may work like the ELINT force, 1 deployed in theatre in role.
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2021-03-25/savage-cuts-raf-uk-defense-review
I thought they covered the gap when the Russians went down past Ireland, but i might be wrong
Don’t know. I’m not aware of any gaps in the UK’s radar coverage, even from the west. Benbecula and Portreath cover that direction.
Never head of it, I think Dan might be making it up.
The USAF maintained a force of E3s in Keflavik Iceland to monitor the Iceland, Greenland UK Gap. One ac was on permanent QRA and regularly launched within the 1 hour allotted to them. They also stood on alert elsewhere in the world on a similar basis. They often worked with UK fighters (Lightnings and Phantoms and Victor tankers).
I remember the Shackleton and the woes of keeping that running in total obsolescence whilst we awaited the Nimrod AEW3….that was canned and the Sentry was quickly procured
Yes. What a fighter force we had then. Strike Command alone overall was 800 aircraft plus. My military interest was beginning then.
Seems nuts that they couldn’t keep the capability for another couple of years until the replacement arrive, even if significantly cut back air hours, just to have the capability should the worse occur.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/uk-surveillance-satellites-project-oberon
According to Look North for Yorkshire & Lincolnshire, RAF Waddington will also be the new home for the Red Arrows. So, it will be a busy base with all the other aircraft and UAV operations based there.
I suppose if the worst comes to pass, we could always bring the Shackletons back!
Oh and for the moaners it’s not a cut as we have apparently only had 3 platforms flying since 2015 due to parts! No change!
How does the E-3 compare to Crowsnest? I know Crowsnest is far from the best AWACS but, if push comes to shove, could it be used on say a C-130 with and offer an effective benefit?
It’s a massive difference.
As part of the Crowsnest system, it uses the Searchwater 2000 radar. This is a traditional pulse-doppler mechanically rotating radar. When used in the Sea King ASAC it had a published range of 150 miles against a 1m cubed target. When the Merlin is cruising at 4000m, it might be able to detect a sea skimming target flying at 5m altitude about 140 miles away. The E7 being based on the Boeing B737 will be cruising between 10,000m and 12,000m. So for the same target, the E7’s MESA radar will be able to detect it between 220 to 240 miles away. However, there is no maximum published detection range for the E7’s MESA, but at a minimum, it will at least match the E3’s AN/APY-2 with over 300 miles against a medium altitude target.
The Searchwater is a X-band radar originally designed for the Nimrod maritime patrol aircraft. The higher frequency radar allows it to search for periscopes/snorkels in choppy seas. The higher frequency gives it a better target resolution, so when used for synthetic aperture modes it can deliver pretty detailed ground images. The E7’s multi-role electronically scanned array (MESA) operates in the lower frequency L-band, therefore it is more transmitter efficient, i.e. needs less transmitter power for similar ranges that Searchwater uses. However, because it uses a lower frequency longer wavelength transmission, its resolution is poorer. The MESA uses significantly more signal processing than the Crowsnest Searchwater to compensate and improve its resolution. The Searchwater is at least 2 generations behind in radar technology. Compared to the MESA, it less frequency agile and will operate over a narrower bandwidth, thus making it more susceptible to countermeasures. As MESA is an active electronically scanned array (AESA) it can use true multibeam transmissions from all four of its panels to give a near continuous 360 degree view. Searchwater has a rotating dead zone (blind spot) that will need a memory algorithm to maintain a targets predicted track.
For the RN, the main area of concern are sea skimming missiles. A Type 45’s Sampson and S1850M has very good detection ranges against medium to high altitude targets. But the Earth’s curvature means a sea skimming target could reach the ship with only a minute or so before it is detected (depending on its speed!). Therefore, even though the Searchwater is “old tech” it may be better suited at detecting sea skimming threats over the E7’s MESA. Clearly they are being very tight lipped about the E7s capabilities.
As a short term measure, fitting Crowsnest to a Hercules would provide some benefit over its existing AN/APY-241 radar, as the Herc radar only has ground mapping, avoidance and weather mapping modes. It will need either fitting to the nose as a replacement or fitting under the wing in a streamlined enclosure. I believe the A400M also uses the same radar as the Herc. It will have a limited field of view if fitted to the nose and if fitted under the wing, the propellers are likely to interfere with it.
However, there are better performing radars available off the shelf that match the size of the Searchwater. One of these is Leonardo’s Osprey 50 AESA radar. Which is being used to upgrade the Italian and Norwegian EH101s, it is also used on the USN Firescout VTOL UAVs. It has a multi-role capabilities of maritime, air and ground mapping, . It can detect a “traditional” sized target (whatever that is?) at 200 miles according to Leonardo. Even with just a pair of these fitted to the nose of a Herc or A400M would offer a significant performance capability over Searchwater (the aircraft will still need to fly circuits though!). However, if four of these were fitted to the aircraft you would have a cheap but highly capable AEW platform.
I find it interesting every time there’s an article regarding the replacement of E-3D by E-7A, a reason (or is it an excuse?) given by some commentators is that the reduced buy of three (3), rather than the original five (5), is justified because some see E-7A as just an ‘interim’ capability that will be replaced by a UAV capability in the future.
Maybe that’s true, maybe it’s not?
I can certainly see that a future large UAV may well be capable of carrying the large powerful radar and sensors required for the AEW&C, Battle Management and other roles, but what about the ‘large’ number of mission crew specialists that are required to absorb and distil that very large amount of data being received?
Will they be ‘ground’ based and have to rely on very quick and reliable satellite upload and download links?
Will they be able to receive and process all that data and quickly upload that distilled data back to combat aircraft operating in that battle space efficiently and effectively?
Lots of questions, not too many answers, in my opinion anyway.
I suspect the need for manned ‘E’ series aircraft will be necessary for many decades to come.
Cheers,
I agree. If you look at the size of the manned aircraft that are used to carry Saab’s Erieye. They are either a small regional airliner or a large business jet. The unmanned aircraft needed to carry this radar will be no different. Also, you are probably going to need at least two engines to generate enough electricity to power it.
The real benefits for a unmanned aircraft is there is no risk to life for the aircrew, the time on station can be made longer and due to the weight reduction by removing the crew and environmental systems you could increase the signal processing blade cards used. The downside is the time lag of controlling and receiving the data via a satellite link. Plus the satellite itself being a weak link, disable the satellite and the aircraft has to operate much nearer to the ground station, for line of sight communications to work.
Perhaps we will see a dedicated mother aircraft, that controls multiple AEW UAVs. They will still need to be pretty large UAVs though. If you want a long range 200 miles+ radar it has to operate in the lower radar bands (preferably L or S). A higher frequency radar requires a lot more power to have a similar range to a lower frequency radar due to atmospheric attenuation losses. The antenna array has to match the operating wavelength of the radar. For example Saab’s Erieye AESA radar operates in the S band at 3Ghz, which means it has a wavelength of 10cm. Each transmitter-receiver module (TRM) must be spaced at a minimum 1/4 wavelength apart (2.5cm), to stop self induced interference. Given the number of TRMs and cooling the Erieye uses, you can see why the antenna fairing is some 9m long!
Not so sure about needing two engines given the recent RR PR quoting 2.5MW power generation from a “beer keg” sized engine.
https://www.rolls-royce.com/media/press-releases/2021/22-07-2021-rr-generator-delivered-for-most-powerful-hybrid-electric-propulsion-system-in-aerospace.aspx
While satellite comms are probably the default, it also seems likely that a future network of AEW UAS platforms will be able to use a mesh network between aircraft and/or down to surface assets such as ships and back to air or satellite, to provide redundancy and resilience over loss of degradation of a sat comms only system.
Radar choice will be interesting. For example, using a significantly larger number of unmanned platforms with x-band, accepting potentially higher attrition from operating closer to threats and/or using larger platforms with something like a fixed E-2D AN/APY-9 UHF radar with a ~7m length.
The amount of data that needs to be sent will be a function of how much processing is done on the aircraft. The continual advances in low power, high performance computing, including AI, will enable small low thermal dissipation, so that the data sent might simply be replicating what would be shown on a control console screen.
Sorry, but this is a long one!
That’s a very good point regarding the RR embedded starter generator. When they say “beer keg”, I wonder what the real size of the engine actually is?
With radar there a lot of compromises that need to be made over the choice of the operating frequency.
The E2D’s AN/APY-9 AESA radar that operates in the UHF band (0.3 GHz to 1 GHz) for example. This means its wavelength is 1m down to 30cm. You can size an antenna to 1/4 wavelength, which means it’s 25cm down to 7.5cm. Another factor with phased arrays is that they need to have a ¼ wavelength gap between each radiating element, otherwise they will generate mutual interference. Therefore, the antenna as part of a phased array has to be chuffing large to not only to incorporate the emitters plus gaps, but to generate and handle the radiated power, not forgetting the receiver sensitivity. Due to the required size, this placed an antenna height restriction on the aircraft. As the antenna is not as tall, it compromises the beam shaping. In general, for a more rounded beam shape you need the vertical height to be at least half the horizontal length. So, the E2D’s beam ends up more like a beaver tail, but placed on its side. I suspect the actual operating frequency is closer to the top end of the band, as it means more transmitter/receiver modules (TRMs) can be squeezed into the available space. I believe due to the size of the Hawkeye aircraft, the performance of the AN/APY-9 radar is compromised.
However, a UHF radar is significantly better than a X-band radar when it comes to detection range versus power output, as longer wavelengths are less affected by free space losses (atmospheric attenuation). A UHF radar will have between 3 to 4 times the range of an X-band radar transmitting at the same effective radiated power.
As the wavelength is longer, its target resolution is rubbish compared to the X-band. It’s great for illuminating large targets but can struggle detecting very small RCS targets, especially against lots of moving background clutter like the sea. To improve its detection, it must use lots of expensive signal processing with monster algorithms. This is where they found that the radar could detect reflective back scattering and sometimes resonant reflections off smaller targets. This isn’t always guaranteed, as detectability has a lot to do with the target’s size, shape and material composition. It might struggle at detecting those Iranian suicide drones for example.
By comparison an X-band (8 to 12 GHz) radar has a wavelength of 3.75cm to 2.5cm. So, it’s antenna length at 1/4 wavelength can be 0.94cm to 0.63cm and with a 1/4 wavelength gap between each element it’s easy to see why a fighter’s AESA radar has over 1000 TRMs (Captor-E has over 1600) in the array. When a target is illuminated by a fighter’s X-band AESA radar, the radiated beam is more rounded due to the squarer array pattern, so in general more energy will hit a specific spot on the target. Therefore, crucially more can be reflected, as free space losses affect the return as well. This is partly the reason why a higher frequency radar has better target resolution. The target will appear as a blob on a basic UHF radar, whereas an X-band can (with some math’s) show an outline image of a target. You can’t use UHF radars for decent ground mapping for example.
X-band radars have their own issues. You need to use a lot more radiated power to get any decent detection range. They are also easier to counter using radar absorbent materials (RAM). This is due to the much smaller wavelength. Older RAM techniques used iron ferrite balls or wire held within a paint that was applied to an aircraft’s outer skin. They were sized according to the resonant effect of the expected threat radar’s wavelength, converting the radar emission into heat (very negligible rise in overall temperature). These only worked over a very narrow bandwidth and have been replaced with more modern materials. Although the F35’s RAM is highly classified, what is publicly known is that it uses an embedded outer skin material, that works much like an RF attenuator (big resistor) by soaking up the RF and converting it to heat. It works over a much broader band of frequencies. The rumor is it counters Upper S, C, X and most of the K band. It will have an effect with the other bands as well, but to a lesser degree.
This is where the RAF need to get smart? What does the UK require from an AEW platform? A ground-based radar can be made to be significantly more powerful than one that fits on an aircraft. It will therefore have phenomenal range looking up, but have issues due to the Earth’s curvature, creating a dead zone where threats can approach pretty closely before they are detected. An AEW platform must therefore be able to extend the radar horizon, so no sneak attacks can be made.
As I’ve highlighted it doesn’t make sense to stick with just one frequency band, as this makes it easier to counter and will have specific performance issues. Therefore, a number of bands are needed, much like the Raytheon SPY-6 dual band radar, that operates in the S and X bands. X-band is a no brainer. It can be made quite light, and they are getting more electrically efficient regarding their power supplies. It also provides the best compromise for detecting very small targets in very high clutter environments. Whereas, you really need a longer-range radar for earlier detection, preferably operating in the L or S bands. Which means you need a bigger aircraft required to carry the bigger antenna.
It is very important that you have the ability to detect a threat a long time before it can actually threaten you. We now have dedicated anti-AEW aircraft missiles such as the Russian Vympel R-37M (AA-13 Arrow), with a range around 200 miles. Even China have got in on the act will their very long-range PL-21 missile. The problem is that due to the way radar works, a radar will potentially be detected a long time before it can detect the target. With a range of 200 miles the R-37M is bang on the published max range of most available airborne X-band radars.
The use of multiple drones controlled through a mesh network is intriguing. If the drones used an AESA based radar, they could also use it as a broadband data-link, as per the F35’s MADL. This means they have a discrete method of communicating with each other and their controller. The question would be, what type of data is transmitted? Would it be raw data or processed data? By processing the data on the drone, means the signal processing is done at source, which raises costs, weight and potential cooling problems. Transmitting raw data takes up a huge amount of bandwidth, but means the radar can be made simpler. So, do you use a number of mixed sized drones carrying longwave and shortwave radars or just a large drone carrying a dual band radar, which then has the potential to be really expensive?
My preference would be a larger drone operating a dual band radar. Therefore, it would be operating outside the current anti-AEW missile range, but also has a radar capable of detecting low flying small RCS targets.
I presumed the image RR used with the PR was illustrating the “beer keg” engine. Not entirely clear as to size but seems similar to a classic beer barrel. Close enough for government work as the saying goes for a PR size comparison I’d say 😉
The dynamics of radar frequency band selection and implementation are interesting. The AN/APY-9 seems to be using significantly increased processing vs. E-2C along with AESA to improve discrimination, while retaining UHF for range, low power reqs. and effectiveness against stealth air platforms. The US were clearly aware of the direction of stealth technology, including stealth missiles, back when this radar was developed and stayed with UHF rather than go to L- or even S-band for better discrimination. E-2D aircraft capabilities/limitations probably played into that, but it may also indicate that we should be cautious how far we take classic assumptions regarding radar bands. It is also worth recognizing that an AEW aircraft, especially an E-2D won’t operate alone in a threat environment, so fighters with X-band and thermal sensors will be included in the CEC. A UK capability, whether from land or carrier, would be likely to operate similarly albeit using unmanned platforms.
What is also interesting is that the AN/APY-9 may still be using pre-2010 processing capabilities. We have made major advances across the gamut of processing technologies/architectures since then.
BTW I noticed you mentioned that AN/SPY-6 was dual band previously but I’ve only ever seen it described as S-band working in conjunction with X-band AN/SPQ-9B. The latter is supposed to be replaced around set 13 with presumably a dual face AESA X-band variant. This makes sense to me as the SPY-1 and replacement SPY-6 radars on the Burke’s are/will be relatively low on the ship, so not optimum for early surface skimmer detection. Do you have a public source for the SPY-6 array including X-band?
I’m left wondering, what was the point of this deployment? Why did we need to deploy the E3D to support CSG21? What capability were we testing that we have now lost?
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/raf-e-3d-awacs-supports-uk-carrier-strike-group-in-mediterranean
Or were we testing wether something else was comparable?
I suspect it was a just in case requirement. The three Crowsnests equipped Merlins are still in development. If there was major issue, especially going past Libya and near Syria at least the task group had air cover.
Maybe: how about on the way back!
I think it is kind of telling that the E3 didn’t follow them to India, Singapore or through to the SCS. Does that mean the RN are now content with the Crowsnest’s performance? Or that the E3D had a problem?
All I think it means is that CSG did a comparative with some other capability and decided they had enough of whatever E3 provided.
So E3 added nothing to the party and was sent home.
That is my take anyway.
Who know what US are providing in terms of over watch.
A sad day for British AEW&C.
Did we have 8 Sentrys originally? We cut to 6, then 4, now 3 replacements…
It means we will be able to have one on station, part of the day.
Basically, we are just about out of the AWACS game. This would be a good time to pool what little we have with the NATO Europe AWACS squadron, it can collectively keep eyes over NATO Europe and Eastlant.
Talk about sovereignty is pretty meaningless when we can likely field juat one aircraft at a time.
There were 7 Originally i believe.
7 E3s were purchased after the competitive run off against the 11 Nimrod AEWs. It would be interesting to know what Requirement the E7 has been purchased against if any?. .
Is three E-7’s enough to be termed a ‘fleet’ ?
the government and the MOD, can no longer defend the indefensible.
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RAF E-3D last sortie. Disgraceful capability gap now filled by older NATO E-3A & same age Fr E-3F. D & F were bought in joint buy, ISD 1991 some 10 yrs after NATO and USAF aircraft but scrapped at least 10 years before them. MOD is responsible for the waste of tax-payer money.
So yet again, the tory party leaves the country vulnerable, by retiring aircraft, without a replacement until next year at the earliest.
The replacement aircraft then turns out to be something that was designed 54 years ago, with the more recent variant still grounded by some countries, after structural defects were discovered … oh whenever it was!
This policy of saving a few groats, goes back to the early 1980’s. It’s enough to make you weep.
Ullo ukdj, I’d say it were very Bad Planning on behalf of our MOD, just the same with the Overlap of being without Our New Carriers 4 ten yrs, n being without Jump Jets, when we could have kept the Olde Carriers, n the Harriers, untill the 35B’s were ready, instead of having to borrow Planes frum’t Yanks. Same with the the Fazing out of the Tornadoes, how come Our MOD don’t refit the Air Frames, n upgrade the Electronics just like’t Yanks?? Bleedin good Plane it were, reet? Enough said frum an Ex Shipyard Craftsman, Regards, Ian.
The Report doesn’t highlight that the E3s are not upgraded and the Airframes need their Checks and maintenance.
so there is little point in performing the checks when the systems are outdated, same with the R1 Sentinal airframes.
One of the E3s has been sold back to USAF as a training aircraft,
they have been run hard like most of the RAFs fleet and are old airframes . need labour-intensive maintenance per Air Mile flown.
At some point for the UK we cannot just keep them in the air, Look at the bill to keep a Lancaster flying, 707 airframe is only 20 years younger.
Better to replace that Cortina with a Focus so you can drive it everyday not just the weekends.