Engineers from major UK companies have teamed up to develop cutting-edge technologies for a new generation flying combat air demonstrator, which is expected to take to the skies within the next four years.

Industry experts from BAE Systems, Rolls-Royce, Leonardo UK, MBDA, and the Ministry of Defence (MOD) are working in collaboration with various British small and medium-sized enterprises to develop Tempest, the UK’s next-generation supersonic stealth combat aircraft.

The Flying Technology Demonstrator, which was first unveiled by the UK Government in July 2022, is being developed using a plethora of innovative digital techniques, transformative processes, and the acumen of the UK’s renowned defence industry. A new facility at BAE Systems in Warton, Lancashire has been central to this development. Test pilots from BAE Systems, Rolls-Royce, and the Royal Air Force have already clocked over 150 hours in a bespoke simulator at this facility.

BAE Systems’ say that their engineers employed auto-coding to produce safety-critical systems software in days rather than weeks. This has facilitated rapid evaluations of the flight control systems during complex flight manoeuvres. The simulator captures crucial data on the aircraft’s handling and performance, years before its maiden flight.

Additionally, engineers have been conducting aerodynamic engine testing. They’ve used advanced manufacturing processes to create an engine duct that’s uniquely shaped to decelerate the air from supersonic to subsonic speeds at the engine face. “The intake has fewer moving parts than a traditional fighter jet design, enhancing the aircraft’s stealthy design,” and the tests were performed at Rolls-Royce’s site in Filton, Bristol.

Ejection seat trials have also been conducted in collaboration with UK crew escape specialists, Martin Baker. Engineers from BAE Systems led these trials, utilizing a rocket-propelled sled that reached speeds in excess of 500mph.

Richard Berthon, Director Future Combat Air for the MOD, said, “The Flying Demonstrator programme is a remarkable effort to design and build a supersonic stealth jet that will prove integration and develop our national skills, while providing data and learning in support of Tempest entering service by 2035.

Neil Strang, Tempest Programme Director at BAE Systems, stated, “It’s now 40 years since our people led the demonstrator aircraft programme which gave birth to Typhoon and the work we’re doing today is another once-in-a-generation opportunity to write the next chapter in aviation history.

Conrad Banks, Chief Engineer at Rolls-Royce Defence Future Programmes, commented on the aerodynamic testing, saying it “has been invaluable in several ways. Not only has it validated complex digital techniques and models, but it has fostered highly collaborative working practices between the BAE Systems and Rolls-Royce teams.

These novel technologies and collaborations aim to test key aspects of next-generation combat air design, as well as hone the skills and tools necessary for the development of Tempest through the Global Combat Air Programme, which involves the UK, Italy, and Japan.

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gh
gh
9 months ago

4 years to demonstrator, 12 to service.

magwitch
magwitch
9 months ago
Reply to  gh

There is 0% chance of it being in front line squadron service in 12 years.

Typhoon: First flight to in service – 13 years
F-35: First flight to in service – 12 years

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker
9 months ago
Reply to  magwitch

I think this may progress much faster. Tech is helping speed things up where in the past it made it over complicated.
Only time will tell but as the article said things like auto coding have cut what took weeks down to days.

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke
9 months ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

I agree. Also, Typhoon was deliberately slowed from the BAE2000 demonstrator. And then sent multinational. There was a real sense of ‘what are we buying this for?’ If was end of Cold War etc so there was zero urgency and as far as anyone could see Tornado was just fine. F35 got too complex for its own good with massive project teams and three very different variants. Small is beautiful. Small is agile. Small is fast. Tech is different now – much more compact electronics and power generation. Build it big with huge power and load margins and get it… Read more »

Jonno
Jonno
9 months ago

Cant wait to see the Maritime version now the carriers getting cats and traps,
Oh wait!

Jim
Jim
9 months ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

They said the exact same thing when building F35, hope they are right this time but I doubt it.

Quill
Quill
9 months ago
Reply to  magwitch

A lot of key technology advancements have been made with those aircraft that can be further developed and implemented in a shorter time. The Typhoon’s new AESA radar is probably also going to be incorporated into the fighter if it is going to be superior to the F-35’s. A lot of options from industry to speed up development, less time needing to actually research and develop those technologies for the aircraft. Of course a lot of R&D is involved still but a lot less time is spent and can be focused on new technology to make the fighter truly 6th… Read more »

Spyinthesky
Spyinthesky
9 months ago
Reply to  magwitch

I will not claim you are wrong time will tell but everyone involved in modern jet design is emphasising that new generations of aircraft are being designed far more flexibly in particular as a digital twin and with modularised software which is generations ahead of what was used both for Typhoon and F-35. Indeed F-35 has itself been much of the reason that the way software for new aircraft conceptually changed throughout because of the problems encountered in that programme. One factor that I think tends to illustrate the fundamental changes since the being the whole separation between the software… Read more »

Last edited 9 months ago by Spyinthesky
Alabama Boy
Alabama Boy
9 months ago
Reply to  Spyinthesky

The real problems with international joint programmes is that every design decision has to be taken back through the participating Nations and run through their own approval process. It only takes one Nation to come back with a question or suggested change and everything related has to be put on hold whlist the issue is debated in multiple forums and a decision eventually emerges. This is especially true where the issue runs counter to a National policy or objective. All of this takes time, months not weeks to resolve – ask anyone who worked on the Typhoon or Tornado or… Read more »

Math
Math
7 months ago
Reply to  Spyinthesky

Done by Saab on the first Grippen.

david anthony simpson
david anthony simpson
9 months ago
Reply to  magwitch

Its already been running for 4 years!

simon
simon
9 months ago

AI robot will get ejection seat, I struggle with the hybrid manned / unmanned concept. ability to do both reduces the ability of the aircraft

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker
9 months ago
Reply to  simon

I want a shot. It looks great fun.

Spyinthesky
Spyinthesky
9 months ago
Reply to  simon

I think it’s true that if you set out to design each option from the outset as a stand alone product technologically there would (at least logically) be less compromises to be made. I would suspect that would be more true of an unmanned system than a manned system however as so much of the technology going into a new manned platform to support the pilot would not dissimilar to that needed in an unmanned platform so while an unmanned platform would indeed be compromised by adding a pilot for obvious reasons adding unmanned capacity to a manned system is… Read more »

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker
9 months ago

So does anyone know how the working with Japan is going? What bits are they doing etc.

Jon
Jon
9 months ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

They have put a lot of effort into exotic materials which should be transferable.

Spyinthesky
Spyinthesky
9 months ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

Still in early days of cooperation, they only signed it off last December, so there are teams studying all manner of how their proposal and ours can be brought together though there was already some overlap anyway. However I doubt that actually has a lot of effect on the design of the demonstrator as thankfully the engines will be fundamentally the same already and Bae and RR had already been charged by the Japanese last year to design the aerodynamics incorporated into the airframe that relate to those engines ie intakes etc, which is an area mentioned in this article… Read more »

Jonno
Jonno
9 months ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

The Naval version?

Ian
Ian
9 months ago

Would we not be better to buy off the shelf….
We will order 150 and end up with 25 really expensive planes… Ajax any one.

eclipse
eclipse
9 months ago
Reply to  Ian

You know that the A word is not permitted on this site.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
9 months ago
Reply to  eclipse

😆

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker
9 months ago
Reply to  Ian

Nope. This is much more about just having airframes. All the design work, systems, testing etc etc is valuable skills that can be used across other projects.
Any money spent in the U.K. gets kept in the U.K. through tax, wages spent etc.
The U.K. gets a system it actually wants that meets its requirements.
And finally there is no aircraft system that meets the U.K. requirements available now.

Spyinthesky
Spyinthesky
9 months ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

Well said, people often do not get the implications of decisions like that, certainly Labour Govts in the 60s sadly.

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker
9 months ago
Reply to  Ian

It’s also not just the U.K. that is buying the aircraft. Italy and Japan are also in the program. If successful other countries will want some also.

Jon
Jon
9 months ago
Reply to  Ian

The project which shall remain nameless was an attempt to bend an off the shelf hull from ASCOD to meet highly specified bespoke requirements. Tempest is primarily a technology accelerator project that should lead to an initally loosely specified end product. International collaboration means Tempest can’t fall too far into the trap of overspecification.

grizzler
grizzler
9 months ago
Reply to  Jon

“Can’t fall too far into the trap of overspecification”- cough TSR2 cough

david anthony simpson
david anthony simpson
9 months ago
Reply to  grizzler

Irrelevant

Spyinthesky
Spyinthesky
9 months ago
Reply to  Ian

Off the shelf from who? F-35 is hardly cheap or a great example to follow where despite being a level 1 member we are well down the line for incorporating our needs. There is also the bigger picture this in with the Japanese offers massive opportunities for two in many ways similar Countries not only on this but to work together on all manner of technological projects. It means Bae doesn’t go off to become a US headquartered Company any time soon, it keeps RR in the high technology zero engine military market and keeps their suppliers in business and… Read more »

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
9 months ago

“Richard Berthon, Director Future Combat Air for the MOD, said, “build a supersonic stealth jet that will prove integration and develop our national skills, while providing data and learning in support of Tempest entering service by 2035.” A few thoughts spring to mind. Now why does no one believe you on that date? Where are Labour on this? Helloooo, do you have any position you can state on Tempest and Defence in general? Is the MoD budget for “developing our national skills” or is it procuring affordable kit in the numbers needed? To me that reads that, again, the MoD… Read more »

eclipse
eclipse
9 months ago

Procuring only 50 seems horrifically low considering it’s a national programme with only one other partner. Yes Italy is participating but I’m not optimistic on their purchase number after they splash on 90 F-35s. I would presume the high R&D costs would lead to 100 being not much more expensive than 50, so I am slightly more optimistic than you on that front.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
9 months ago
Reply to  eclipse

Yes, true. Maybe I’m too low, it’s just a guess. I thought Japan was also aboard?

John Hartley
John Hartley
9 months ago

DM, it depends on the politics, security situation & money. That means 50 to 150 & all stops inbetween.

Spyinthesky
Spyinthesky
9 months ago

I think he is writing off Italy as a partner, so Japan is left as one of the two. Personally I see others joining or buying, S Arabia have already shown interest but a bit iffy politically at present to progress presently. Who knows, Poland might want in eventually and Sweden is still hovering.

Jim
Jim
9 months ago
Reply to  Spyinthesky

Sweden has VTOL capability? 🙂

grizzler
grizzler
9 months ago
Reply to  eclipse

Are they getting 90 F35s- really -I hadnt realised – What variants?

Expat
Expat
9 months ago

Labour have said they support Tempest and AUKUS (at the parliamentary level), but in the same presentation heralded strong defence ties with Europe. It came to light just a couple of weeks back that data is being shared with the European project. Like you say we need to save money and political parties like to oppose and change direction irrespective of the merits, I won’t be surprise to see GCAP and FCAS merge especially if there’s money to save. Its good to watch the TSR2 documentary from time to time to remind us how dumb politicians are 🙂 Looking at… Read more »

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
9 months ago
Reply to  Expat

Exactly. “At the parliamentary level” is always the elephant in the room isn’t it.

We await the answers.

OkamsRazor
OkamsRazor
9 months ago
Reply to  Expat

This nonsense about merging is constantly repeated by people who seem to be living in some fantasy world where the French work with everyone else and are happy to share!

Expat
Expat
9 months ago
Reply to  OkamsRazor

I’ll be clear I’m not promoting the merger, I want UK to have sovereign capability. I just don’t believe the political appetite will remain.

Remember it was the French not us who ended the last cooperation on 6th gen fighter. We were part of the initial project.

The FCAS concept was developed in the frame of the ETAP European Technology Acquisition Programme that was started in 2001 as a co-operation between Germany, France, Great Britain, Italy, Sweden and Spain.

summary for 2010.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/742833/UKFR_EquipmentCooperationA5.pdf

The reality cooperation with the French is happening.

OkamsRazor
OkamsRazor
9 months ago
Reply to  Expat

So two salient points. Firstly, with the Japanese on board why would we need the French? Secondly, chances are the German/French deal will come to grief. The Germans will come over to us and the French will go it alone. People seem to forget that the U.K. holds all the cards. We have 5th gen airframe experience, they do not. We have 5th gen engine tech, they do not. BAE is the only tier1 defence contractor in Europe. So I ask again why would we defer to Desault. Commentators need to put on their logical analysis hats and take off… Read more »

Expat
Expat
9 months ago
Reply to  OkamsRazor

Nothing to do with hats or logic but everything to do with politics, where logic is irrelevant and immaterial what our capabilities are. Even if the Germans come over to us that’s still a merger and their requirements,, workshare and transfer technology requests must be accommodated, then the Spanish will need to decide where they want to be. You have you opinion, lets see well know in around 2 years which way this will go. Quoting the UK oppositions position. Our highest priority is the UK’s security in Europe, the North Atlantic and the high North – the NATO area. … Read more »

OkamsRazor
OkamsRazor
9 months ago
Reply to  Expat

Two or three points. As Watcherzero has so cogently stated below, no points of intersection, because they are both called 6th gen doesn’t mean they have the same objective!
Secondly, never ever known a General to speak nonsense based on their emotional preference, of course not!
Thirdly, only France has a carrier landing requirement and only Dessault have an absolute need for project primacy (otherwise they become irrelevant in the fighter jet market), you do the math. The chances of a project merger are between 1% and 0%.

Math
Math
7 months ago
Reply to  OkamsRazor

The other reason may be found with Safran. I don’t think that leaving the développent of new engines would make any sens. Regarding Dassault, well we all saw how went competition between Rafales and Eurofighter. It would not make much sens to let UK engineer make the airframe. The Tornado… a good way to convert air fuel into noise, but beyond that, let’s be honest, nobody can serioulsy say it was a fighter. In the bomber role, slightly better, but nowhere near the mirage. I hope engineers from UK will do better this time, since it is a last chance… Read more »

OkamsRazor
OkamsRazor
7 months ago
Reply to  Math

Not really sure of your point. But the French have generally proved that they don’t play well with others in the European defence fighter market. The Rafale has proved to be a competitive generalist fighter. The Typhoon is second on to the F22 in air superiority. The Tornado, according to professionals an excellent low level bomber, for which it was designed.

Watcherzero
Watcherzero
9 months ago
Reply to  Expat

No crossover for merging, FCAS is developing a carrier capable short range interceptor. Tempest/GCAP are going for a long range air dominance fighter carrying a large payload of long range missiles.

Expat
Expat
9 months ago
Reply to  Watcherzero

At this stage there no reason why the requirements can’t change. TSR2 was vastly different to what we ended up with. Only time (around 2 years) will tell.

Jim
Jim
9 months ago

Labour has no position at the moment.

grizzler
grizzler
9 months ago
Reply to  Jim

you do suprise me….

Expat
Expat
9 months ago
Reply to  Jim

From John Healeys RUSI speech below. So Labour does have a position and most certainly its tilts toward Europe with more defence cooperation. There’s some good and some bad in that. With the Tories doing such poor job its more or less a certainty well have a labour government and a new priorities.

‘Which is why Labour will seek a defence and security pact with the EU, and new defence agreements with leading European allies like Germany. ‘

David Lloyd
David Lloyd
9 months ago

Good to see some progress on Tempest. At all costs, the MoD must be kept away from this project. They will cause cost over-runs as they attempt to gold-plate the design, or delay it for years trying to prevent a gun from being included – or indeed, a new Blue Circle radar.

Leave it to the private sector and it might come in on time and to budget

eclipse
eclipse
9 months ago
Reply to  David Lloyd

I had thought the Blue Circle radar was, if over budget and late, a successful programme that added a useful capability to the tornadoes? Then again, that time period is not really when I was of a reasonable age so I’d love to know more.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
9 months ago
Reply to  eclipse

One of my fav ever Jets, the Tornado F2, F3.

Robert Blay
Robert Blay
9 months ago

👍😄

Klonkie
Klonkie
9 months ago

I remain a big Buccaneer fan!

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
9 months ago
Reply to  Klonkie

Me too! At very low level.
Though for some strange reason I’m also fascinated by the SU15 Flagon. 😳

Last edited 9 months ago by Daniele Mandelli
Klonkie
Klonkie
9 months ago

nice!👌

Ben
Ben
9 months ago
Reply to  eclipse

Blue Circle was the informal name of the concrete ballast that was fitted into the nose of the early ADV Tornados because the actual radar, the AI.24 Foxhunter, wasn’t ready yet. It was a play on the rainbow codes used for projects during the Cold War and the Blue Circle branded cement.

Spyinthesky
Spyinthesky
9 months ago
Reply to  eclipse

You may be mis-remembering some of the Ferranti ‘blue’ radars the famous one being Blue Vixen of course. Indeed I suspect ‘Blue Circle’ combined that traditional naming regime with the cement link to jokingly come up with that Blue Circle name for what was the vapourware at the time..

Jim
Jim
9 months ago
Reply to  eclipse

Blue circle was definately a thing. I was at Coningsby on 228 OCU working MCS when we got shifted up to Leuchars to make way for 5 sqn at foxtrot HAS site ( hope you guys appreciated the 3 weeks of HAS bull nights in prep for your arrival 😘😘. 229 OCU by that time had been hauling concrete for a good 18 months by then.

Jim
Jim
9 months ago
Reply to  eclipse

Blue circle was a very British joke I thought 😂

Jim
Jim
9 months ago
Reply to  eclipse

Sorry your comment is soo funny having said that it did add significant c of g calibration to what was other quite an expensive process of adding lead to the nose of a fighter by substituting much cheaper concrete in its place 👍👍

Andrew D
Andrew D
9 months ago
Reply to  David Lloyd

Let’s hope it doesn’t go the same way as TSR2 and we end up buying something of the shelf .🤔

Spyinthesky
Spyinthesky
9 months ago
Reply to  Andrew D

Or not even buying off the shelf.

Crabfat
Crabfat
9 months ago

Just a thought… why don’t they make the ‘chute canopy orange? It would show up in the water. I remember, in the original Top Gun (yes, I’m that old), when Maverick ejected, an orange dye was released as soon as they hit the water. Don’t tell Trump – he’ll want some…

Bob
Bob
9 months ago
Reply to  Crabfat

Not all who see are friendly.

grizzler
grizzler
9 months ago
Reply to  Bob

and some of who don’t see will be

Colin Brooks
Colin Brooks
9 months ago

I believe the engine for the Tempest is based on the work by Reacion Engines in the UK. If so you can hang on to your hats because we are talking Mach 7 plus ^.^

grizzler
grizzler
9 months ago
Reply to  Colin Brooks

I didn’t see that coming ….

Colin Brooks
Colin Brooks
9 months ago
Reply to  grizzler

Hopefully the enemy will not see it coming or going ^.^

OkamsRazor
OkamsRazor
9 months ago
Reply to  Colin Brooks

No evidence for that statement. Some of the “pre-cooler” tech from Reaction Engines will be used (BAE/RR are shareholders), but the RE project is completely separate. So no it won’t and no it will not.

Colin Brooks
Colin Brooks
9 months ago
Reply to  OkamsRazor

The ‘pre-cooler tech’ IS the Reaction Engines’ crucial factor, RE have said all along that it can be added to existing engines to transform their performance. You will note that I said “based on the work by Reaction Engines”.

Kevin Tibbetts
Kevin Tibbetts
9 months ago

I was an engineer on the EAP and ACA projects which were early stages of what was to become Typhoon. The early vision was of a relatively cheap fighter but it inevitably became more complex with changes and added roles. Changes increase costs.The long lead time meant issues..ie obsolete electronics. Still great aircraft though. Would be good if latest project could- 1. Design for world sales 2. Agree spec with mod and mod stick to it. No changes allowed till after 1st flight. More like a rapid development of software. Drive down dev time. Make time to market a driver,… Read more »

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke
9 months ago
Reply to  Kevin Tibbetts

A very interesting post.

I agree – it should a large twin engine plane (RAF want that) with space to fit in the sovereign systems we gave in Typhoon and other under development.

As you say it should be fast tracked and the multinational Gold Plate / Pork Barrel Committee kept at arms length.

Perfection is the enemy of good enough – perfection eating budget and therefore frame numbers.

Nicholas Tagney
Nicholas Tagney
9 months ago

The problem here is we’re looking at a technical Marvel Marvel but And trying to cut back on money I’m too cut back on money we’ve done this with the The tornado F3 and then and then it had to fly for 2 years because they couldn’t get the Fox hunter system to work so it flew with concrete in its nose. Now the Typhoon a very advanced a very advanced plane but we still didn’t give it the radar it needs to do needs to do yes we’re doing it but that’s probably because we didn’t build the McLaren… Read more »

Jim
Jim
9 months ago

I mean literally WT actual F…… 😂 😂 😂 Who is doing this terrible trolling????? You should suffer capital punishment on the basis you have committed 1st degree murder of the English language 😂😂

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke
9 months ago
Reply to  Jim

I think it is Chat GTP – the pre release version?