HMS Glasgow, the first of eight Type 26 Frigates being built on the Clyde, has reached a major milestone as she successfully entered the water for the first-ever time today.

The ship is at Glenmallan where she was lowered into the water by a semi-submersible barge before being brought back upriver to Glasgow again, this time to BAE’s facility at Scotstoun for fitting out.

BAE Systems said previously:

“Once in position, the float off will involve the base of the barge being slowly submerged over a number of hours until HMS GLASGOW fully enters the water. She will then return to BAE Systems’ Scotstoun shipyard further along the Clyde, where she will undergo the next stages of outfit before test and commissioning.”

Ben Wallace, Secretary of State for Defence, said:

“HMS GLASGOW entering the water for the first time marks a major milestone for the Type 26 programme which supports thousands of highly skilled jobs in Scotland and more across the wider UK supply chain. We’re continuing to invest in the British shipbuilding industry to maintain the Royal Navy’s cutting-edge ability to defend our nation, while strengthening our partnership with allies.”

David Shepherd, Type 26 Programme Director, BAE Systems, said:

“Seeing HMS GLASGOW in the water for the first time will be a proud and exciting moment for the thousands of people involved in this great endeavour. She will soon transfer to our Scotstoun yard in Glasgow where we look forward to installing her complex systems and bringing her to life.”

For those wondering how they moved the ship onto the barge, little wheeled vehicles under the vessel shown below.

The submersible barge was tested last month ahead of the upcoming launch of the new warship.

Frigate carrying submersible barge tested in Glasgow

According to Malin Group, the barge will initially be used to transport and ‘launch’ the Type 26 Frigates being built by BAE Systems for the Royal Navy and then berthed on the Clyde and made available to industry as required, “catalysing further opportunities for the wider supply chain in fields including shipbuilding, civil construction and renewable energy”.

I went along to watch the barge arrive. Here’s the video.

John MacSween, Managing Director of the Malin Group, said:

Securing this piece of equipment marks another positive step forward in the reawakening of the shipping and large-scale marine manufacturing industry in Scotland.  This versatile asset, based on the West Coast of Scotland, can be used for launching and bringing ships ashore, docking vessels locally or at remote locations as well as being used to relocate large structures around the UK and further afield.

We are delighted to continue our long-standing relationship with the internationally renowned tug and barge owner specialists Augustea, as well as work with Hat-San who are bringing years of shipbuilding experience to the conversion. We are also extremely grateful for the support we have had from Scottish Enterprise in making this project a reality.”

The barge is a joint venture between the Malin Abram and Augustea and, now modified, represents one of the largest in Europe – it can submerge to load vessels and cargo with draughts of up to 12m and over 137m in length.

It will be based on the Clyde between projects.

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Mick
Mick
1 year ago

A great looking ship.

Jack Pott
Jack Pott
1 year ago
Reply to  Mick

Not enough in number for an actual shooting/hot conflict though….

David
David
1 year ago
Reply to  Jack Pott

Depends what kind of conflict… If up against China it would act as an alliance. Only the US has a tested unilateral capable war fighting fleet… no one else
Wars are fought as alliance days

Roland
Roland
1 year ago
Reply to  Jack Pott

…and you would know that, how? Unless you are involved in the design and structure of the vessels you don’t have any idea! If you did then I strongly suspect that you are in breach of TOSA.

David
David
1 year ago
Reply to  Mick

Certainly is and look forward to the next batch with HMS Birmingham built on the Clyde

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
1 year ago
Reply to  David

eventually but given the rate of the Clyde’s production of ships we’ll be waiting for a very long time the type 83 will start building before the last T26enters the fleet

Jack Pott
Jack Pott
1 year ago
Reply to  David

My point is, loss of 4 units and that’s half the fleet. Availability means you have 1 or 2 units remaining. Certainly >4 units hit or lost in 1982. Will struggle to counter massed modern VLS attack.

Joe Jarvie
Joe Jarvie
1 year ago

When will it be coming back up the Clyde to Scotstoun? Why was the barge used? Is the Clyde not deep enough for launching at Govan? It certainly was when the Type 45s were launched there.

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker
1 year ago
Reply to  Joe Jarvie

It’s more controlled launch using the barge. Instead of letting the ship thunder down a ramp slowed down by chains etc. Going to the loch to float the ship off instead of doing it in the river helps as there’s no river flow to deal with and more space etc.

Geoff Roach
Geoff Roach
1 year ago

Er’s a big ‘ol girl in ‘er?😀

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
1 year ago
Reply to  Geoff Roach

no way us a ship that bug is a frigate it could easily be a cruiser

Geoff Roach
Geoff Roach
1 year ago
Reply to  Andy reeves

With the armament she’s getting she’ll be able to take on all comers.👍

andy a
andy a
1 year ago
Reply to  Geoff Roach

what armament? lets wait and see if it gets anything yet.
FFBNW

Jack Pott
Jack Pott
1 year ago
Reply to  Andy reeves

Dwarfs the tug

David Barry
David Barry
1 year ago

I would suggest the article in the Telegraph is more newsworthy… no funding stream for T32, Royal in trouble, cuts in Army mech. procurement, long list.

Patrick
Patrick
1 year ago
Reply to  David Barry

The T31 wasn’t funded for many years after its announcement. There are far more pressing concerns than the T32, which even if order now, there’s nowhere to build them.

andy reeves
andy reeves
1 year ago
Reply to  Patrick

maybe cancel the 83 for a while and produce a first in clas T26 configured as a destroyer/cruiser save design R&D costs on
T83.

andy reeves
andy reeves
1 year ago
Reply to  Patrick

still

David Lloyd
David Lloyd
1 year ago
Reply to  David Barry

Right – they have allocated £12billion for cockups and “R&D”

“About half will be ring-fenced as a reserve in case existing programmes run over budget, and for research and development projects.”

Words fail me

Posse Comitatus
Posse Comitatus
1 year ago
Reply to  David Barry

To be fair, I’m not sure that T32 was ever really an immediate prospect, its genesis seems to have been a stream of consciousness from Boris Johnson just before the Queen Elizabeth carrier group deployment set sail. Many of his announcements were never within the envelope of facts or truth, perhaps this is another example.

Personally, I think they’d be better to continue building batch 2 and 3 etc T31’s and incorporate the various design and development iterations as the class is operated.

Jim
Jim
1 year ago

I could live without the type 32, 5 more type 31’s and some form of ocean going supply vessels able to support drones and UUV’s is probably good enough for MCM. T26 can also embark MCM equipment if we need to take it some where nasty.

David Barry
David Barry
1 year ago

Honestly, it flabbergasted me that even the poorest educated person knew he was lying when he opened his mouth; and yet thought he was a great guy. I always thought he was a complete tw@t.

However, T32 is/was meant to be a follow on to T31 that would operate more autonomous platforms and facilitate the transition to a new form of warfighting. Alas, not even a research funding stream.

Louis
Louis
1 year ago
Reply to  David Barry

I assume Babcock and BAE will still invest in developing their version of T32, so their designs are more mature for when the RN decides to invest again.

Last edited 1 year ago by Louis
David Barry
David Barry
1 year ago
Reply to  Louis

You’re a glass half full person, aren’t you 😉

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
1 year ago

whatever the outcome of the T32, the RN needs a high number of the class designed to be produced in a decent amount quickly. emphasis on production time should be a higher priority than the other ships un the design stage

Geoff Roach
Geoff Roach
1 year ago
Reply to  David Barry

Which article are you talking about? The only one I’ve seen in recent weeks is mostly about bringing forward kit for the army and more Chinooks at the probable expense of more transports.

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker
1 year ago
Reply to  Geoff Roach

More chinooks? Are the 50+ they already have not enough? The navy need more helicopters as a priority over more chinooks in my opinion

Geoff Roach
Geoff Roach
1 year ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

Another 14 so the article says.

Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  Geoff Roach

They are replacing the older versions in the UK fleet mate, not increasing the numbers.

Geoff Roach
Geoff Roach
1 year ago
Reply to  Airborne

You may well be right. The article implies that they increasing the number in the RAF but it has been known for the DT to get things wrong!😪

DaveyB
DaveyB
1 year ago
Reply to  Geoff Roach

I can confirm the new Chinooks are replacing the legacy Mk1s we bought back in the 1980’s. Even though the airframe does not have a fatigue life, like a fixed wing aircraft. Doing 40 years of training, peacekeeping and combat operations has been a hard life for these aircraft. They are requiring more and more structural repairs, which delays the amount of time they are available for tasking. The Mk1s in particular has layered up frames, ie lots of plates etc put together to make a frame. The newer Chinooks use milled one piece frames or frames that use less… Read more »

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
1 year ago
Reply to  DaveyB

👍👍

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker
1 year ago
Reply to  DaveyB

Well that all sounds far to sensible for it to be a uk defence program. Surely they want to retire all the old chinooks and order replacement ones 5 years later.
Is this the same 14 chinooks that were announced years ago? David Cameron time perhaps?

DaveyB
DaveyB
1 year ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

Possibly, it was announced publicly around 3 years ago. Though proceedings were happening before that. Unlike other Chinooks we have bought before and similar to the recent AH64E purchase. These are being bought direct from the US Army. As it comes out of one of their big purchase programs, rather than being bought from Boeing. In theory the aircraft should be cheaper. But they won’t come under the extant Boeing support contract. So it remains to be seen how that is going to work, especially as the US Army are the design authority and not Boeing.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
1 year ago
Reply to  Geoff Roach

No geoff. Replacing older ones like dear old “BN Bravo November” who earned her place in the RAF Musuem for the nation.
Newer are longer ranged, was suggested for carrier use too.
Was announced a few years ago but the order for 14 put on hold due to budget issues.
The Chinook force is one area we are not short, and I believe the squadrons we have ( 7, 18, 27, 28R ) cannot use all the airframes we possess.

Geoff Roach
Geoff Roach
1 year ago

As expected then, but again we cannot use all we have? Pilot training?

David Barry
David Barry
1 year ago
Reply to  Geoff Roach

Hi. Article in the Telegraph on… Thursday??

Geoff Roach
Geoff Roach
1 year ago
Reply to  David Barry

I think so David , mostly about the army.

andy reeves
andy reeves
1 year ago
Reply to  David Barry

looks more like a cornflake box

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
1 year ago

Very best wishes for the T-26 program going forward. 😊

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
1 year ago
Reply to  FormerUSAF

T26 cruiser more like

Nigel Collins
Nigel Collins
1 year ago

Good to see the first of eight in the water and some decent self-defence for her coming aboard in the shape of NSM plus Dragonfire in the years ahead.

Any ideas on how long the fitting-out process takes?

Dragonfire video included. It looks impressive!

https://www.thedefensepost.com/2022/11/10/uk-laser-energy-weapon/

And so does the NSM!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMowaZ3I90o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VRn3z4OA6M

Last edited 1 year ago by Nigel Collins
Jim
Jim
1 year ago
Reply to  Nigel Collins

Type 26 won’t be getting NSM, she will have FC/ASW instead.

Nigel Collins
Nigel Collins
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim

Correct, if it’s ready by 2028 which might not be possible.

Hopefully, it will be!

https://www.navylookout.com/a-guide-to-the-type-26-frigate/

Last edited 1 year ago by Nigel Collins
Coll
Coll
1 year ago

Any videos of the lowering?

Frank62
Frank62
1 year ago

Expected to commision 2028, six years to fit out, trials etc. HMS Belfast is about 2 years behind Glasgow.
I miss the traditional launches, gets it over with PDQ. Good to see progress being made.

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank62

It seems a long time but must be needed. The trials etc will take a good chunk of that time.

Esteban
Esteban
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank62

My God how long does it take to build a frigate?

Jon
Jon
1 year ago
Reply to  Esteban

From laid down (or first steel) to fully operational, together with a couple of other recent ship types. All first in class.

HMS Boadsword Type 22 – 4 years 6 months
HMS Norfolk, Type 23 – 6 years
HMS Daring, Type 45 – 7 years 3 months
HMS Forth, B2 River – 4 years 8 months
HMS Venturer, Type 31 (expected) – 6 years
HMS Glasgow, Type 26 (expected) – 11 years 2 months

I might look up some European equivalents later today if I have time.

Last edited 1 year ago by Jon
AlexS
AlexS
1 year ago
Reply to  Jon

First FREMM was 5 years 3 months, last FREMM’s a bit less than 4 years.

Last edited 1 year ago by AlexS
Andy reeves
Andy reeves
1 year ago
Reply to  Jon

4 years to build a patrol boat? that’s a disgrace

Jon
Jon
1 year ago
Reply to  Andy reeves

HMS Forth had some problems with the quality of the superglue used to stick the rivet heads on, so yes, a disgrace. She had to be sent back for rework and retesting after commissioning and the faults discovered.

Paul T
Paul T
1 year ago
Reply to  Jon

Comparisons are easily made but the circumstances regarding the speed some projects are delivered are too many and varied.But for a Ship which started construction at pretty much the same time as Glasgow,being a new design,first of class i give you this – https://www.marina.difesa.it/media-cultura/Notiziario-online/Pagine/20190615_varo_Thaon_di_Revel.aspx

Jon
Jon
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul T

A little over 5 years from laying down to operational. Nominally an OPV, but that’s a frigate in all but name, close to a Type 31.

Gunbuster
Gunbuster
1 year ago
Reply to  Jon

The OPV build was deliberately stalled and slowed to retain the ship builder knowledge on the project so that it would be available for T26 when it started.
It wasnt quite a pork barrel project but very nearly. It was done that way for specific reasons that are now paying dividends with the T26 builds.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
1 year ago
Reply to  Esteban

on the CLyde? a lifetime

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
1 year ago
Reply to  Esteban

too long by far

Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  Esteban

My God how long does it take to get two accounts?

Eufster
Eufster
1 year ago

Are they going to drydock it to fit the bow sonar or somehow do that while it’s in the water?

Armchair Admiral
Armchair Admiral
1 year ago
Reply to  Eufster

I think it’s a drydock job.
T32…a slip up by the PM I reckon, jumped on by defence people to give it more substance.
Surely a batch 2 and 3 T31 is the sensible cost effective way to go? I am sure they can alter the boat bay bits sufficiently to accommodate all the uav’s, uuv’s, XlL-uuauv’s and mini-aauuvuauv’s that will be PILING up on the dock ready to be fitted…
AA

David Steeper
David Steeper
1 year ago

Agreed. Type 32 being a Batch 2 Type 31 was always the logical choice. It works on ship itself cost grounds. Build, maintenance and operation and manpower cost. Training cross decking etc.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
1 year ago
Reply to  David Steeper

or q batch3river class designed to fight

David Steeper
David Steeper
1 year ago
Reply to  Andy reeves

That’s a good idea.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
1 year ago

i waas looking at papers surrounding the old type 14 Blackwood’ frigate in particular h.m.s Exmouth which was fitted with a gas turbine, it was a popular and well produced class i visualised ut with modern kit and it looked like a plausible size for theT32.

Armchair Admiral
Armchair Admiral
1 year ago
Reply to  Andy reeves

Although the equipment available at the time was heavy (limbo), the boats only had an armament of a couple or three Bofors 40mm, I think it was also long and thin and may not have the stability mandated for modern vessels. No doubt, as It was a sort of stripped down Type 12 class vessel, it was a good sub hunter for the day. A Batch 3 River may well tick some boxes for a “Black Swan Sloop-of-war” drone containership. Perhaps the Black Swan was ahead of its time? Probably a modern Bofors 40mm and sea Ceptor capability is all… Read more »

Ron
Ron
1 year ago

Silly question but when the Glasgow hits the water is that her official launch date? I do wish that people would stop calling her HMS Glasgow, she has not been commissioned yet so she is not HMS. Until she is commissioned she carries a blue ensign not the white ensign. I also noticed the articles about T32 etc. I am not to concerned at the moment, all T31s are to be completed by 2028/29 so a follow on T32 could not be started until that time. The same with the Multi Role Support Ship, they will possibly follow on from… Read more »

David
David
1 year ago
Reply to  Ron

Hear, hear. The other thing that bugs me is when journalists talk about “the HMS xxxx”.

AlexS
AlexS
1 year ago
Reply to  Ron

You can dream.

ChariotRider
ChariotRider
1 year ago

This is more of a disaster than most on here seem to realise as the delays are likely to run into the th 2030’s because Hunt has delayed quite a bit of his tax rises / cuts until after the next election – political common sense really. However, if it takes another three or four years to get the finances back into order we are looking at 2027 at the earliest before these big defence programmes ca get underway, if they ever do. Then there is the question of the engineering industrial capacity. If the ship designs are not sufficiently… Read more »

Jon
Jon
1 year ago
Reply to  ChariotRider

The contract for the second batch of T26 is done. The rate is set, and steel will probably be cut for Birmingham in February. Budget cuts aren’t likely to affect it, and the rate won’t be too slow as the unit price is relatively low. Shephard guessed every 18 months, so let’s go with that. That means steel will be first cut on the last ship, HMS London, start of 2029 for delivery in maybe 2035. If we look at when steel could be cut for the first Type 83 [at Govan, a reasonable assumption], ignoring any increased capacity following… Read more »

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
1 year ago
Reply to  ChariotRider

easy if you can get rid of the dusty old admirals at the admiralty taking up space and what exactly do they do? apart from being quoted on something from time to time

Jon
Jon
1 year ago
Reply to  Andy reeves

Tony Radakin when 1SL did a lot of that, shifting manpower from shore to ship and cutting a swathe through the brass.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
1 year ago

i care not one jot, but there is no way that Glasgow is a frigate. that ship is every unch a destroyer or a cruiser. reconfigured in a few areas there will be no need to design the type 83, are configured type 26 will do the job

IwanR
IwanR
1 year ago
Reply to  Andy reeves

In 1877 the Royal Navy reclassified all it’s frigates as “cruisers”. By 1900 the same ended up happening with the Germans too. Could even say that some of theirs ended up as a ship of the line.

In 1975 the USN reclassified it’s frigates as cruisers. A few of those were nuclear powered.

Nothing wrong with calling it a frigate. Or a cruiser. Could also follow the French and say: to hell with it, call everything a frigate!😀

DH
DH
1 year ago
Reply to  IwanR

Nooobody follows the French! Anyhoo, anyone know how the Canuks and the Cobbers T26’s are coming along? 🤔

andy reeves
andy reeves
1 year ago
Reply to  IwanR

typical french sneaky ideas

andyree
andyree
1 year ago
Reply to  IwanR

1877? were you around back then?

andy reeves
andy reeves
1 year ago
Reply to  andyree

my steaming boots were!

IwanR
IwanR
1 year ago
Reply to  andyree

There are records. I think it was an admiralty decree. The ones that got burned are probably the ones in World War II.

Andy reeves
Andy reeves
1 year ago
Reply to  IwanR

There is no way that the type 26 is a frigate, no way.