The Royal Navy has reported significant progress in the domain of minehunting through the use of autonomous systems.

The advancements come after a year of dedicated efforts by the Mission System Team 3 (MST3) of the Mine and Threat Exploitation Group (MTXG), which has been conducting operations and trials in the Clyde area to further the development of these systems.

The utilisation of autonomous technology has been part of a broader initiative to improve minehunting operations. The efficiency and success of MST3 have been acknowledged through the Naval Capability Award at the Surface Flotilla Awards.

Lieutenant Alex Gibby, Group Engineering Officer for MTXG, commented on the past year’s achievements: “Throughout 2023, Mission System Team 3 (MST3) has been delivering operational output, providing a clear picture of the seabed within the Clyde. We have also been conducting trials and developing the use of autonomous equipment in support of the overarching Mine Hunting Capability project and future Mine Counter Measures (MCM) in the Royal Navy.”

The previous year’s operations also included the utilization of remotely operated vehicles (ROVs) equipped with sensors from the Royal Navy’s Fleet Hydrographic and Meteorology Unit. The ROVs were successful in visually identifying multiple contacts at the bottom of the Clyde, which has been instrumental in showcasing the operational advantages of integrating hydrometeorological support with mine warfare.

Looking forward, MST3 has a robust schedule for 2024, which includes a series of trials aimed at comparing and analysing the effectiveness of various autonomous technologies.

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George has a degree in Cyber Security from Glasgow Caledonian University and has a keen interest in naval and cyber security matters and has appeared on national radio and television to discuss current events. George is on Twitter at @geoallison
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Jim
Jim
2 months ago

I really hope we get both the Type 32 program off the ground and purchase the four RFA vessels to give us the ability to deploy these drones where they are needed.

For all the talk of the Houthis anti ship missiles they would probably have been far more of a threat just dropping cheap sea mines and all those massive US fleets stationed in the region would have been almost useless against the threat.

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  Jim

Don’t give them ideas! Other than the targetting fiction, that the Houthis are only aiming for Israeli ships (ha ha), I think your point is on the money.

Ex-Marine
Ex-Marine
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon

That comment aged well Jon.

27.01.24 @ 10.33 Zulu : Houthis attack British-linked tanker Marlin Luanda in Gulf of Aden
A tanker with links to the UK was on fire for several hours in the Gulf of Aden after being hit by a missile fired by the Houthis.

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  Ex-Marine

The Israeli thing was never true, just a convenient fiction they tell the Arab world. It was the mine/missile thing I was agreeing with Jim about.

Nigel Collins
Nigel Collins
2 months ago
Reply to  Jim

Hello Jim, a very interesting post on this over on Sky News. Now think of using the Carriers in a war with China and the range of the F-35B. Sean Bell: RAF jets flying 3,000 miles for Houthi strikes as flagship aircraft carriers remain in UK – here’s why The UK’s aircraft carriers have immense potential but have not been resourced effectively – it’s like having a fire brigade that’s available only part of the year. ‘Missed opportunity’ to show potential When the US and UK forces attacked the Houthis the two navy carriers were moored up at Portsmouth. Why?… Read more »

Robert Blay
Robert Blay
2 months ago
Reply to  Nigel Collins

F35B’s operated over Syria as part of the CSG21 deployment.

Jon Turner
Jon Turner
2 months ago
Reply to  Nigel Collins

It’s not the carriers that are the problem – they’re ready to go. What we can’t do is sustain them. The RFA are in such a bad shape that nothing capable of handling dry stores or ammunition is available to accompany them. The carriers can’t effectively deploy until RFA Fort Victoria is back in the fleet fully manned, qualified, and ready to go. They’re just about OK for tanking, as the RFA currently has 3 active tankers. Even this will soon temporarily be reduced to 2 as RFA Tideforce will have a planned maintenance period and RFA Tiderace being laid… Read more »

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Nigel Collins
Nigel Collins
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon Turner

All very true unfortunately JT.

farouk
farouk
2 months ago

Regards these new autonomous systems. (Aka Drones) Belgium and Holland decided long ago that such systems will require a new type of mothership and so developed the City-class mine countermeasures vessel of which they have ordered 6 each, the other month France (which is co-developing its own autonomous mine clearing system with the Uk , joined that club and ordered 6 of their own. So on that note does anybody know what the RN is going to use as its own Mothership. Google Belgian & Dutch Navies Future MCM Motherships and go to the YT video for a breakdown on… Read more »

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Jim
Jim
2 months ago
Reply to  farouk

RFA Stirling caste and potentially three other similar vessels will perform the role. Type 32 is suppose to perform the role in a contested environment.

Matt
Matt
2 months ago
Reply to  Jim

The T32 is a very poor choice for this. Better to use the T26 mission bay or the flat deck of a River Class.

Matt
Matt
2 months ago
Reply to  Matt

I say this in the basis that most people believe the T32 to be an extension of the T31 programme, which is unfunded and cannot be crewed.

Frank
Frank
2 months ago
Reply to  Matt

T32 is described as “A Platform for Autonomous Vehicles” and that is all anyone knows about them… Using T26 might give additional options but deffo not better… T26 is a Sub Hunter primarily, not a mine Hunter.

farouk
farouk
2 months ago
Reply to  Jim

Yes you are correct the Uk has purchased Stirling castle and the Wishlist of 3 others (when the defence secretary pulls his finger out and decides to purchase them. Which on current form is simply a exercise of kicking that can down the street for somebody else to pick up)   Two much smaller countries with even smaller commitments have designed, built and procured 6 each of dedicated motherships designed specifically for the operation of Mine drone ships. In fact, so impressed was France with what the two low countries have come up with, it has decided to purchase the… Read more »

Jim
Jim
2 months ago
Reply to  farouk

I think the four RFA vessels will happen because if they don’t we won’t have anything left to base in Bahrain and MCM is the Uk most important contribution to the 5th fleet. Personally I think such commercial vessels will be superior to small specialist vehicle given their size cost and flexibility. Any small warship will need to be protected in a contested environment so better just ti make it a cheaper civilian vessel. Also as we move up the value chain supporting the US with our own large deck carriers it’s better smaller NATO navies move up and can… Read more »

Tommo
Tommo
2 months ago

Have trials been conducted in warmer waters ?

Frank
Frank
2 months ago
Reply to  Tommo

well I did spot a couple of blokes with remote controls at Poole Harbour a few weeks back. 🤔

Tommo
Tommo
2 months ago
Reply to  Frank

Can’t have millionaires beachfront littered with empty cans and camping gaz bottles beneath them whilst swimming destroys the Monaco look .I’m glad there is a future for MCM in UK waters (Slight Sarcasm there )

Frank
Frank
2 months ago
Reply to  Tommo

Ha…. Sandbanks Resident’s do get a bit funny when the “Commoners” invade each summer….. it’s bad enough that they have to share the Ferry to get to Studland Naturist Beach !!!!

Tommo
Tommo
2 months ago
Reply to  Frank

I’m sure that any Oligarchs living there have amazing telescopes on their balcony

Frank
Frank
2 months ago
Reply to  Tommo

😂

Gunbuster
Gunbuster
2 months ago
Reply to  Tommo

Yep. Harrier along with the support containers where out here during the summer months trundling around and going out to play in the dark blue crinkly stuff on Cardigan Bay.

Tommo
Tommo
2 months ago
Reply to  Gunbuster

The Gulf and the red sea bottleneck are ideal places too conduct operations with this kit I doubt it won’t be long before those pesky Houthies lay mines in the transit corridors curtesy of Iran lots of Grey Funnel ships there but no MCMVs

Frank
Frank
2 months ago

Hunt’s x 13, River’s X 12 and Sandown’s X 12….. all nearly gone now and we have a handful these 10 Ton AV’s plus a Big Blue Harbour Queen…. but at least the Clyde is clear…..🙄

Jim
Jim
2 months ago
Reply to  Frank

Hunts and Sandowns are not very useful against modern mines. Plastic hulls a waste of time and they are too small to effectively use the Drones.

Frank
Frank
2 months ago
Reply to  Jim

Oh Ok then….🙄

Tommo
Tommo
2 months ago
Reply to  Jim

Served on Hunts from 88 91 out the Gulf The Hunts showed their worth clearing Mines of various types .Not one Hunt was damaged by Mines during OP Granby Fbglass hulls worked the Yanks had their Avenger class and the Dutch ,Belgium, had their tripartite class long days and nights on station sweeping or hunting (paps) but worth it 👌

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
2 months ago
Reply to  Frank

I share your concern. It’s the need for other scarce assets to deliver them to theatre that’s always concerned me. Someone told me once an Atlas would be used. Great, fast to deploy, true, as opposed to weeks. But assumes one of those scarce 22 Atlas is available and of course it now is removed from another tasking at that point as they cannot be in two places at once. While having already taken on the Hercs missions too as some imbecile decided the UKSF, one of our trump cards, could go without! Without the 3 extra mother’s planned then… Read more »

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Frank
Frank
2 months ago

Mate…. Where to start ? Atlas, Is an Amazing Aircraft, We should have so many more, yes they are noisy but they are so capable…. Chinooks are noisy too, in fact you can feel them way before you hear them, Atlas just sound so loud all the time…. Hercs seemed to have some sort of Noise Cloak in comparison.. Where we are at this time is a Disgrace, It’s decades of Cut’s and political -uckwittery … and now even the Americans are worried enough to get involved in the criticism openly…… We as a Country need to get a Grip….… Read more »

Jonno
Jonno
2 months ago
Reply to  Frank

Its sad to see the lack of forward thinking of sectors of UK defence. Nobody is in control for long enough. The defence chiefs only get 3 years. This should be extended to 5 years in order to comprehend their briefs and make them accountable for decisions and actions. 3 years is a joke. Year 1 understand the brief and move various people into new roles or fire others. Year 2 actually do something useful and tour allies. Year 3 consider replacements and change plans realising you took decisions in years 1 and 2 too hastily.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
2 months ago
Reply to  Frank

I agree mate. I have no one to vote for, apart from spoiling my ballot. I still maintain we have plenty of pluses others lack, just not the numbers, and there is where the issue is.
Need numbers. So would you accept a cheaper less capable asset to increase the mass?

Frank
Frank
2 months ago

To be honest, I would accept cheaper less capable assets if they could be quickly upgraded… If you think about T26, it’s a pretty impressive platform but if we only had the 8, it wouldn’t be any where near enough, so having the 5 T31’s helps keep the mass….. hopefully, the time has come for common-sense to prevail and to add to both orders…. I would also like to see T32 being built in other yards other than in Scotland …..T45 Style. It’s not impossible to do this especially with the added bonus of having Appledore available again. Atlas numbers… Read more »

lonpfrb
lonpfrb
2 months ago

The USAF has the Air Force Research Laboratory to own the big ticket strategic priorities and industry relations. I hope RAF has an equivalent but don’t know what that would be?

lonpfrb
lonpfrb
2 months ago
Reply to  Frank

Interesting to see the discussion about National Service and a citizen army in the press as the solution to the ongoing cuts to recruiting and retention in the armed forces.

It seems that scaring civies enough to write to their MP for increased defense spending is the intention.

A bit more subtle than the usual recently retired General / Admiral speaks his mind about cuts story. Proven not effective so time for a different approach…

Ex-Marine
Ex-Marine
2 months ago

Nice to hear miracles with new technology! They’ve changed maths too, 15 really does go into 3!

Frank
Frank
2 months ago
Reply to  Ex-Marine

We at one point had 37 Mine Hunters…. not so long ago… Hunt’s, River’s and Sandown’s…… We are soon to be left with a Castle and a hand full of 10t boats…. Quite how “The Math” works here I just don’t know…. Neither do I know what Sea States these 10t boats can work in, or how they can be defended/protected….in areas of hostility….. Lets just ponder the current Red Sea issues, The H’s are currently using Drones and Missiles yet apparently no mines…. How would the Castle mothership cope whilst tending to her brood of tiny boats. what’s to… Read more »