Harriett Baldwin and her French counterpart have signed an agreement to explore future long range weapons for the British and French Navies and Air Forces.

The missile however will not be ready to replace Harpoon until 2030, leaving British frigates without any real means to engage surface warships aside from their helicopters.

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Mike Saul
Mike Saul
3 years ago

2030s in service date, is a very long time away. Given the inevitable time delays with advanced technology could see the RN without a ship launched heavyweight anti ship missile for 20 years.

I read “options for replacing the Harpoon anti-ship missile are ‘being considered’, as politican speak for not a chance in hell of a replacement being procured..

joe
joe
3 years ago

Aah… the Pegasus vapourware…. always tomorrows weapon.

Here we go again for a nother Anglo/French joint that probably won’t go anywhere.

joe
joe
3 years ago
Reply to  joe

And there you go…. I even get the name wrong…. ‘Perseus’.

Let us not all hold our breath!

Nick Harriss
Nick Harriss
3 years ago

As they are upgrading Storm Shadow in the meantime, why not upgrade the guidance to allow them to target moving ships? Add the close in guidance from the Spear 3 or even the latest version of the Exocet, both also made by MBDA, and you have a long range anti ship capability at what must be a relatively low additional cost if you are already doing an upgrade. Accepting that they will effectively only be fitted to the Typhoon (the Tornado retiring and the F-35 not being specified for Storm Shadow), they would fill a gap the RAF has had… Read more »

dadsarmy
dadsarmy
3 years ago

The good news about this is that in spite of a politically acrimonious Brexit already, from a point of view of defence the UK and France are still talking and co-operating. But something will be needed to fill the gap, there’s already been the sheer stupidity of the MPAs (I liked the MRA4, cancelled to save just £1 bn). Probably life support for the Harpoon or indeed enhanced capability for the Storm Shadow.

Ian L
Ian L
3 years ago

There are reports floating around the net that Boeing is touting an upgrade kit for the existing Harpoon missile inventories for under approximately $600 000.
I believe they are referred to as Block 2+ER have found information on the upgrades at Boeing’s own website and USNI news site.

dadsarmy
dadsarmy
3 years ago
Reply to  Ian L

Or perhaps the Kongsberg NSM, which I believe is fitted to the Roald Amundsen, arrrived last week for JW.

geoffrey james roach
geoffrey james roach
3 years ago
Reply to  Ian L

Your right…or does the MOD not want to tell us there is something available?

Mike R
3 years ago

Harpoon Block 2 upgrade would be the most cost effective system and last for ten years until this new weapon comes into service, therefore it probably won’t be adopted.

Chris
Chris
3 years ago

Nice about missiles being added to the Taranis work as well other projects.
Now maybe the UK and France should do what they planned to do and build another QE Class carrier. Modules built here and assembled in Brest or wherever and let the French work out the catapults for their Rafales.

£1.75 Bn each should do it and share running costs. But no Garlic in the Ratings mess ..

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