The MP for Dunfermline and Dollar has called for increased orders of Type 31 frigates, greater use of east coast assets including Rosyth dockyard, and a single funded High North strategy, warning that the UK should consider itself already in conflict with Russia, in written evidence to the Defence Committee’s Defence in the High North inquiry.
Graeme Downie, who chairs the All Party Parliamentary Group on Estonia and whose constituency is home to Rosyth dockyard and HMS Caledonia, told the committee that defending the High North must be understood as the first duty of government, saying that when Putin illegally invaded Ukraine in 2022 the impact was felt immediately by British families through higher energy bills and that “any future action Putin takes will hurt those same people first and worst.”
Russia’s behaviour in the region confirmed its long-term intent, Downie said, pointing to a major military buildup including new air bases in Murmansk, expanded air defence deployments and a fleet of ice-capable vessels, Russian submarine activity at its highest since the Cold War, and a pattern of hybrid threats including underwater activity around Scotland’s subsea infrastructure. Drawing on discussions with senior Estonian officials in his capacity as APPG chair, he said that even a peace settlement in Ukraine would not stop Russian aggression but would simply redirect it toward the Arctic and North Atlantic, adding that “when they offer advice, we should listen.”
Downie also argued the government should consider increasing orders for more Type 31, describing them as cheaper and quicker to build and adaptable over their lifetime to fulfil different roles, saying this could be “particularly critical for the future hybrid navy envisaged in the SDR and emphasised by the Royal Navy.” He also argued for greater use of east coast assets such as Rosyth and DM Crombie to improve response times and deterrence posture into the GIUK gap and northern waters, saying this was how the UK could “shorten our logistics tail, reinforce allies at speed, and make presence in the High North continuous rather than episodic.”
On the protection of subsea cables, Downie described them as the digital arteries of the economy and called for investment in seabed monitoring, resilient routing and hard power capacity to deter and act against threats around the northern approaches, saying these were “defence tasks, not merely regulatory ones.” He cited energy industry leaders who had told him: “If a Russian submarine appears next to one of our installations, who do I call?” and said the government must have a credible answer.
The deployment of HMS Dragon to Cyprus following the drone attack on RAF Akrotiri was raised as evidence of the strain on UK readiness, with Downie saying it demonstrated the limits of the UK’s ability to transfer capability between theatres and that the lack of viable support ships forced the country into “piecemeal, reactive deployments rather than coherent, strategically focused force projection.”
Downie noted that China controlled 70 per cent of rare earth mining and 90 per cent of processing and described the Arctic as a once-in-a-generation opportunity for the West to reduce its dependence on China, provided development was done responsibly and in line with Western values. He also pointed to the suggestion that HMS Prince of Wales’s High North mission might have been shifted to the Middle East as a warning against short-term thinking, saying had that decision been taken it would have signalled that the West was still seeing the High North through a tactical lens rather than the decade-long strategic one required.
He concluded that the High North was Britain’s frontline and that leadership required urgency, clarity and action, saying simply that “delay is not defence.”












I think Downie might be a better choice for PM. Not that that’s a high bar to clear.
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britain needs scottish yards to ramp up the delivery rates
While I agree with Downie, I wish we could get beyond this Scottish built nonsense, we don’t talk about welsh built armoured vehicles or English built submarines or Irish built missiles.
Good point Jim
Yep
iris? missiles? ee gad who let that bloody happen. sponsored by guiness?
And he is correct. The RN urgently needs to get more frigates into the fleet and the T31 is a much quicker build than the T26. 5 more would do nicely. Yes, I know that they are not complex ASW ships like the T26 but with their flexible mission bay they could easily have CAPTAS 2 towed array fitted, accommodate a Merlin ASW and be the mother ship for other ASW USVs. They could be a very useful augmentation to the T26 force for a fraction of the cost.
Agree with more naval units and CAPTAS 2 etc. But Dowie isn’t PM. I’m sure Starmer wants a more effective bigger military but Treasury is not onside snd neither are bucket loads of Govt backbenchers – which is certainly a large part of the political problem. Even Reeves I think would like to do more but she’s been rolled on making welfare cuts so where does the money come from?
Is the PM in charge of his party or some others?
Ha. Think of the answer. They have a huge majority as well.
Lol..just wish he’d stand up and show some more fight even if he’s going down. Might be too late by the sound of it.
There seems there could be opportunities for co-building additional ships along with A120s for Poland, maybe even Denmark, NZ and Sweden with the AH120s. Hope the government and Babcock are still plugging away at all these.
I’d say it’s not just they’re built faster than Type-26s, but if we equip them properly, they can reduce the burden of non-ASW duties and do other missions. Sure, we’ll have them pack some CAMM/-ERs but we should also pack some Land Strike Missiles, either Tomahawks or STRATUS when it’s around and more Anti-Surface launchers per ship, like NSMs and ship launched drones, either the ole recon or strike variants.
They’re not going to replace the Type-45s for AAW nor the Type-26s for ASW, but they can fill the gap sufficiently that it could be seen as a Peacetime Frigate but also a screen that will handle OPVs, Corvettes and patrol boats, helicopters and jets/drones that get too close or further out from any fleet.
We need more of everything fast. I wonder whether we have got ourselves into such a pickle that we need to do the unthinkable and order in frigates from abroad to supplement (not replace) our own programmes. Perhaps order the S.Korean frigates that are being offered to Denmark, which I understand have a quite a quick delivery timetable. Normally I would be totally against such a move but we’re in a crisis.
Not sure if there are currently any more orders for T31 beyond the 5 for UK, so, we would be better ordering more for us and sell any early versions if/when interest comes along as per the Norwegian T26 order.
Keep the production line going! Don’t gap the T31 deliveries until we have 8 T26 in service.
If it was up to me I would have a continuous T31 order, like in Japan. But the imported frigates is more to address the immediate to medium term crisis.
Short of actually being at War, no UK Government would sanction any Front Line Warships being ordered from Foreign Shipyards, it simply won’t happen.
UK needs more frigates not to mention a few extra destroyers. Most of all someone needs to come up with a strategy convincing the government to order some!
While he’s correct, it’s always with the caveat that he’s the local MP!
Would he be speaking with such certainty if our escorts were built in Sunderland?
To me, MPs have their priorities, and the overall health and capability of their nations armed forces seems to matter usually when it’s jobs at stake on their patch.
A bit more interest shown elsewhere might be good.
Britain needs more frigates. I couldnt give a shiny sh*te where they are built. As long as they are built, and preferably quickly.
There sits the problem in the second part – we have forgotten about quickly.
Although Rosyth does have the best capability to take on further production as BAES is now rammed with T26 orders.
The slight fly in the ointment is the lack of a T31 going through early testing.
No we don’t. We need frigates. The Scottish BS part of this bollocks doesn’t come into it.
Politics.
This isnt exactly news- I would state its blinking obvious, very overdue and a matter of extreme national emergency now.
Well quite.
But the matter is with Starmite and nothing seems to be able to cross his desk. There must be an impenetrable wall on his desk?
We need to be careful that naval shipbuilding does not go into a bust after the current boom and scramble to build ships. Shipbuilding has taken a few years to get up to speed because the workforce and infrastructure bust after the Cameron/Osborne slow down. It takes years for apprentices to get up to speed. BAE and Babcock need to know now how many people they need in their workforce in 5, 10, 15 years time. What are Babcock going to build after the current batch of T31s (completed 2030/2031)? Hopefully a new batch of T31s. Hopefully BAE move from T26 to T83. Who is going to build MRSS? Who will build the Type 91s? Who (anyone?) is planning long term naval shipbuilding capacity? Do we need a B3 River? I understand B1s are being withdrawn and the B2s are coming back to UK waters to replace them. Are T31s supposed to take on the duties of the B2s – forward deployed? I understand the B2s have been pretty successful in maintaining forward presence and having high availability. Doesn’t it make sense to have an upgraded up-armed B3 to complement the T31s and add mass (quickly) to the Royal Navy? Excuse my naive questions, I am just a concerned taxpayer with no background in defence or the military. I just think we are building lots of stuff now, but what will we be building in 10 or 15 years time? Will current apprentices have a job for life?
I agree with you. we don’t need anything Scottish/welsh/English/or northern Irish. just to be thrown back in nations faces in future.
with respect. we need more British built ships. planes .tanks .drones. and the rest. being built in the four nations is good for the local economy. but referred to British built. is better and encouraging for all. just my opinion.
after all. we are British. are we not.
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