A British RC-135 ‘Rivet Joint’, a dedicated electronic surveillance aircraft, is once again conducting surveillance of Russian forces in occupied Ukraine.

The UK has been conducting these flights to gather intelligence about Russian forces in the area.

The RC-135W Rivet Joint and its sensors are designed to undertake β€˜signals intelligence’ missions. In other words, they β€˜soak up’ electronic emissions from communications, radars and other systems.

This isn’t the first deployment of this type by any means, this has been ongoing for months now, but activity has increased recently due to the Russian invasion. The UK has been increasing the frequency of such flights over the last few months in order to gather intelligence. US aircraft are also present.

As we need to post this each time, here’s the usual disclaimer. This isn’t a new occurrence. In fact, it is pretty routine. The UK has long been gathering intelligence about Russian forces since long before the invasion of Ukraine, and it should be noted that these flights are designed to be visible so that the public and Russia know they’re happening. If it were a secret, I would not know. Also, for those remarking ‘this isn’t new’, that’s right, but people only know this often happens because it is reported often.

British surveillance aircraft being over the area isn’t unusual, but we are seeing a significant increase in the frequency of the flights over the last few months for obvious reasons.

What does the RC-135W do?

According to the Royal Air Force website, the RC-135W Rivet Joint is a dedicated electronic surveillance aircraft that can be employed in all theatres on strategic and tactical missions. Its sensors β€˜soak up’ electronic emissions from communications, radar and other systems.

β€œRC-135W Rivet Joint employs multidiscipline Weapons System Officer (WSO) and Weapons System Operator (WSOp) specialists whose mission is to survey elements of the electromagnetic spectrum in order to derive intelligence for commanders.”

The Royal Air Force say that Rivet Joint has been deployed extensively for Operation Shader and on other operational taskings. It had been formally named Airseeker, but is almost universally known in service as the RC-135W Rivet Joint.

The UK operates three of these aircraft.

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JohninMK
JohninMK
1 year ago

Once the 4 oblasts likely become part of Russia at the end of the week it seems probable that mainline Russian forces will move forward into those areas taking over some of the activities of the VDR as well as DNR and LPR militias. Around an estimated 20,000 fully trained, fresh Chechen forces are already moving in.

This could give the Rivet Joints, both ours and US, much more to listen into.

Last edited 1 year ago by JohninMK
rm
rm
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

What mainline forces? The 1st GTA that was decimated in the first push toward Chernihiv? Then again taking Izium? The 20th CAA that was mauled in the recent fighting in Kharkiv oblast?

There is no magical reserve of the Russian army left to “move in”. Just conscript “cannon fodder” Sorry, reality will sink in eventually, there is no “gloves off” that will save this invasion. Unless Putin wants to resort to nukes.

Chris
Chris
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

Assuming of course that “mainline Russian forces” as you describe them haven’t mutinied, rebelled or been reassigned to deal with the increasing level of protest against Putin’s so called “special military operation”, which is beginning to look more and more like a war every day.

JohninMK
JohninMK
1 year ago
Reply to  Chris

Whilst in many ways it may have operated as a war, in legal terms it wasn’t but it may become legally a ‘war’ not SME no-one knows. All the main conflicts recently whilst often called wars have not, as far as I can see, been actual ‘war declared’ wars e,g, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria. Russia in Ukraine seems to have been following recent precedents by giving their conflict a different name.

Wasp snorter
Wasp snorter
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

Whose legal terms are you referring? What court is saying that isnt a legal war? You mean Putin is saying it’s not a war, that’s all. Of course it’s a war, how is it nort. Btw the β€˜Iraq war’ was a war, I’m not aware of it being anything else, parliament voted on going to war.

Jim
Jim
1 year ago
Reply to  Wasp snorter

He is referring to Russian legal terms not international terms. Russia still not calling it a war and cannot fully Mobilise until they do. That being said don’t think a full mobilisation would be any different. Just more Orcs with pointy sticks and no logistics.

JohninMK
JohninMK
1 year ago
Reply to  Wasp snorter

The UN.

farouk
farouk
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

JIMK wrote:

“The UN”

Even the UN refuses to accept annexed land stolen at gun point, as been the legitimate property of the country that stole it. looks at the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990

Wasp snorter
Wasp snorter
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

The same UN that has just condemned it as a war and where Lavrov had to walk out yo avoid answering to it

Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

Wrong again, oh dear such a regular thing.

Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

Don’t forget the illegal invasion of Georgia in 2008 by your rapist squads!

dan
dan
1 year ago
Reply to  Airborne

Wasn’t Biden also in the White House then with Obama? lol

Chris
Chris
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

So if it isn’t a war, why the mobilisation? Why the conscription? I may lack specific knowledge on the matter, but I am hard pressed to recall any military “operation” that resulted in the forced draft of thousands of men….

Meirion X
Meirion X
1 year ago
Reply to  Chris

Ho yes, fresh forced conscripts with very little equipment and maybe armed with antique rifles!
Also they been told to buy their own winter coathing.

Netking
Netking
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

Around an estimated 20,000 fully trained, fresh Chechen forces are already moving in.”

hahahaha

The guys from Tik Tok?

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker
1 year ago
Reply to  Netking

Chechens are nothing to worry about. The well trained ones are already mostly dead, captured or went home.
Johnin you need to stop smoking that Russian propaganda. It’s bad for your health and well being

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
1 year ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

You mean the Chechnyan Special Needs unit wiped out near Hostomel early doors. πŸ‘ŒβœŒ

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
1 year ago

😁

Jacko
Jacko
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

That will be the mainline conscripts with no training and rusty weapons then!
How are they getting there? Paying for their own taxis probably. No kit no food and piss poor logistics, winter coming things will go well for them won’t it?

Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

You are so full of garbage, abolute sad pro Russian propaganda. As for the “fresh” troops (amusing) are they the thousands recruited from jails? Convicted rapists (they will fit in very well) nonces, murderers etc etc. As for the Chechens, they have achieved absolutly fuck all, aside from making very poor tik tok videos and getting killed in large numbers! So, what is your educated opinion, as an Englshman, age 76, from MK, on the active recruitment of Convicted criminals for the (shite) Russian Army (hidingbehind the Nazi Wagnergroup title) and the mass exodus of Russian men across various borders… Read more Β»

JohninMK
JohninMK
1 year ago
Reply to  Airborne

No garbage there, just saying what is happening, without judgement.

Jacko
Jacko
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

You don’t really say what is happening in the north or Kherson do you? Nothing of any significance going on there then?
On the north bank of the river the Orcs stand to lose 20k troops due to being cut off from any supplies yet you do not mention it at all!
Are you relying on this magical β€œmainline” army coming along and sweeping everything in their path aside?
probably a waste of my time because you NEVER answer any questions like this do you.

JohninMK
JohninMK
1 year ago
Reply to  Jacko

I didn’t mention the state of the fighting as I was making a political comment. But as you asked, in Kherson the UA has taken a major beating being virtually back where they started after losing large numbers of soldiers and equipment. In the Liman area of the NE the UA is doing well recapturing land they lost months ago, but still taking heavy casualties. Almost all official reporting by the UA has stopped over the past few days. The Liman area is now interesting, it will either be a good victory for the UA or a catastrophic failure if… Read more Β»

farouk
farouk
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

JIMK wrote: “”I didn’t mention the state of the fighting as I was making a political comment. But as you asked, in Kherson the UA has taken a major beating being virtually back where they started after losing large numbers of soldiers and equipment. “” Have you any actual sources for that claim as the info I am getting shows slow but steady progress, but saying that the main aim of telegraphing the summer offensive in Kherson was to get Moscow to relocate its troops from the North East to the West, this they did and Kyiv shut the door on… Read more Β»

Last edited 1 year ago by farouk
farouk
farouk
1 year ago
Reply to  farouk

Futher to my last, i have to ask do you garner information regards the Ukraine from this bloke:(Hes a joke)
If so I am more than happy to correct most things he states,

Last edited 1 year ago by farouk
Meirion X
Meirion X
1 year ago
Reply to  farouk

Spot On!
I also follow the maps.

Jacko
Jacko
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

With what are the Orcs beating the Ukr back in Kherson? They are cut off on the North bank and the Ukr does not need to push hard as sooner rather than later supplies will run out.
I really can’t see how even you can disregard videos being posted by Orc conscripts on their β€˜training’ and lack of kit! Are these the mighty army that’s going to push the Ukr back in the North?
By the way Liman is now virtually surrounded so if the Orcs don’t bug out they will be trapped as well.

Last edited 1 year ago by Jacko
Meirion X
Meirion X
1 year ago
Reply to  Jacko

Yes, also destroying the barges that bring supplies across the river.

Jacko
Jacko
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK
Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

Oh dear, the rest of the world sees reality of the tactical situation, and you, your rapist mates and head shed nonce Putin see the imagined world of Orc dreamland! I suppose the gas pipes were sabotaged by Greenpeace, or a grumpy shark? Nothing to do with Putin shitting his pants and trying to threaten the west, as his illegal adventure in Ukraine, raping, killing, thieving and torture, has gone very badly wrong and the world now see the Russian military for what it is, an inept, bent, useless bag of shite all wrapped up in a larger, bigger bag… Read more Β»

Meirion X
Meirion X
1 year ago
Reply to  Airborne

πŸ‘

Python15
Python15
1 year ago
Reply to  Airborne

ROFL, in stitches now, Grumpy Shark did it for me, LOL!!

Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  Python15

πŸ˜‚πŸ‘

David Barry
David Barry
1 year ago
Reply to  Airborne

Well, I heard it was specially trained SOCOM Beluga whales equipped with loc stat detonated mines! Taps nose.

Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  David Barry

Shit, how did you find out? Was it on RT, Johnskies fav telly show?

Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

Nope, wrong again, wow, anyway, how about your thought process of the inclusion of convicted rapists, nonces, murderers and general scumbags in the uniformed organisation that is supposed to be the Russian army?

Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

Some nice AKs being issued I see!

Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

So much entertaining footage coming across the Internet from various “training”locations in Nazi Russia…..tank crews with no, er, training, conscripts being told “we have nothing to give you apart from uniform and weapons, including any med kits, doss bags” etc etc…..your fucking sad Nazis are struggling johny troll aren’t they.

farouk
farouk
1 year ago
Reply to  Airborne

Regards poor training, enjoy

Ron
Ron
1 year ago
Reply to  farouk

Love it, one way of making me choke on my morning coffee. Thanks for that.

Jacko
Jacko
1 year ago
Reply to  farouk
Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  farouk

FFS hilarious! Kit, shit, blokes, shit, leader, shit, all boxes ticked!

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
1 year ago
Reply to  Airborne

Do wonder whether there are any honorable senior Russian officers, witnessing the destruction/ dismemberment of the Army, contemplating a coup? Realize FSB provides Putin”s protective detail, but they could not withstand an attack by SF, or airborne, or even mech. infantry. The Russian people would probably accept a coroner’s explanation of “heart failure,” at this point, regardless of causal factors, or perhaps even “acute lead poisoning.” πŸ€”πŸ˜³πŸ˜

Meirion X
Meirion X
1 year ago
Reply to  Airborne

No winter coathing, buy only.

Farouk
Farouk
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

JIMK, Have you any reputable links regards that extra 20k Chechen fully trained deployment as I haven’t seen anything of the sort. What I find interesting is that at the start of the year the tiny statelet with a population of 1.5 Million had an army 12000 strong and since the war started has deployed around 20000 troops which was only achieved after Grozny ramped up Conscription 254% . (As per the telegram account of Chenchen Leader Ramzan Kadyrov, ) and has suffered proportionally the worse losses for any Russian region after all its fully trained special forces group was… Read more Β»

Last edited 1 year ago by Farouk
Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker
1 year ago
Reply to  Farouk

Maybe he got confused and was talking about the estimated 20,000 Chechens that have joined Ukraine side
https://www.npr.org/2022/09/05/1119703328/chechens-ukraine-russia

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker
1 year ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

The head of Ukraine’s foreign committee was just on channel 4 news and amongst other things said that Russians have been calling a Ukrainian helpline asking how to surrender when they get thereπŸ™ˆ

farouk
farouk
1 year ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

Thats been going on for a while now, in fact the Ukrianains have seeded Russian held areas with plastic help cards which contain a number and a QR code on the back for russians to zap with their mobiles. In fact Ive just read that those keen prisoners who joined up have started to surrender on mass to the Ukraine (Gee even a blind man wearing a blindfold inside an unlit concrete chamber 100 feet underground on the darkside of the moon could have seen that coming) resulting in Putin 3 days ago changing the law regards soldiers who surrender… Read more Β»

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
1 year ago
Reply to  farouk

Yes, but that presumes Russians have the ability to detain them. The alternative may be to surrender to Ukrainians, be debriefed by their intelligence service to exclude war criminals, request political asylum, be further vetted by other countries’ services and study a map of Europe to decide where one should settle. Much better proposition than an unmarked grave in Ukraine.

Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  Farouk

Boom, he does it again, JohninMK down, JohninMK down, we have a troll down!

JohninMK
JohninMK
1 year ago
Reply to  Farouk

I’ll try and dig something out. I made no comment on the capabilities of the Chechens, when used previously they were in the second line, same as the Rosgvardiya, cleaning up after the fighting has passed. As you say they make a lot of noise doing it, puffing up their importance.

farouk
farouk
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

JIMK wrote: “”I made no comment on the capabilities of the Chechens, “” No you didnt directly, but in stating: “Around an estimated 20,000 fully trained, fresh Chechen forces are already moving in.” You do so surreptitiously, but allow me to shine a spotlight on those so called mainline Russian troops in which to illuminate the fact that actually they are not the force multiplier that many presume they are. The men Moscow has mobilised are not fully trained. In fact all of them since they completed their Military service (conscription) have never done any military training what so ever, but… Read more Β»

Simon
Simon
1 year ago
Reply to  farouk

A good explanation of why most army’s have moved away from conscription. The only way to have an effective force, is long term training and experience. Add to that Russian equipment looks to be dire and it is going to be a blood bath

Meirion X
Meirion X
1 year ago
Reply to  Simon

Including a reasonable sized territorial army reserve?

Simon
Simon
1 year ago
Reply to  Meirion X

With effective training and equipment yes, it seems most Russian have just been pulled of the streets and haven’t even had any training since they left after there conscription service. Plus there seems to be very little equipment available

Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  farouk

Words he will have to verify with boss before replying: fig 12 and gat πŸ˜‚

Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

β€œFully trained and fresh” you stated, but in your defence fully trained in the Russian mil at this time means they have been issued socks and pants and been instructed on their use, and fresh, means not got a confirmed rape in the last week!

Posse Comitatus
Posse Comitatus
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

Regardless of that fake referenda result that was decided many months ago by Putin, those regions will never really be part of Russia. They are Ukrainian simple as. Nowhere has ever freely voted to be part of Russia, a backward nation with a tainted history of warcrimes, genocide, oppression, torture, incompetence, poverty and mass murder. Keep smoking that Kremlin weed , no matter how you spin it, even someone as delusional as you couldn’t think Russia is capable of holding free and fair referenda in a war zone. The only people voting to join Russia are quisling collaborators similar to… Read more Β»

Last edited 1 year ago by Posse Comitatus
FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
1 year ago

After watching video of referendum in Russian occupied areas, am tempted to laugh at accusations of voter suppression in US. Don’t care how blatant it may be; absolute pikers by comparison!:πŸ€”πŸ˜³πŸ˜

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker
1 year ago
Reply to  FormerUSAF

They can’t even make results of a referendum sound believable.
96% in favour. 96% of people can’t agree on anything.
To even attempt to make it believable maybe try 75% in favour 16% against and 9% spoiled ballots.

Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

Punching out the CO, jam rags as SOP med kit, rusty AKs, tank crew reserves with no training, no issued kit for soldiers, drunks everywhere, old T64s from the 60s dragged out from reserve stock, convicted criminals recruited, surrounded BCTs trying to escape minus kit, Russian men breaking limbs, poor Siberian families getting sheep for every male family members voluntarily joining the rapists army, buying out of date ammo from NK…….ETC ET fucking Cetera, your illegal invasion going well I see πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ Bellends!

ChariotRider
ChariotRider
1 year ago

Off topic, there are reports from Sweden that “seimic events” were detected in the area of the Nord Stream 1 pipeline just before the leaks were detected.

It seems that the pipeline was blown up!

One of the area of bubbles is about 1km across, big enough to sing a ship due to loss of buoyancy.

Won’t make much difference to gas supplies to Europe because both pipelines were close down anyway but it seems they no going to be turned back on anytime soon..!

Cheers CR

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker
1 year ago
Reply to  ChariotRider

Maybe those crazy Russians were trying to blow up the new Norway-Europe pipeline that opened today but are not very good at map readingπŸ™„

Mike
Mike
1 year ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

ο»ΏπŸ˜…ο»Ώ

ChariotRider
ChariotRider
1 year ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

Careful that might be next…

This action does show that they have the capability to interfere with seabed infrastructure and to do so in a manner that demonstrates complete lack of concern for the innocent going about their lawful business i.e. the crews of passing ships.

This, if proven, would demonstrate a considerable willingness to escalate and in effcet directly attack European infrastructure…

None of which is good news.

Cheers CR

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
1 year ago
Reply to  ChariotRider

Hmmm…RN may wish to consider expediting acquisition of capability to monitor seabed activities?

ChariotRider
ChariotRider
1 year ago
Reply to  FormerUSAF

Yeh, long over due, especially as the most likely mode of attack would be placing some kind of demolition charge against the pipe.

It’s not as if we haven’t known about Russia’s asymetric underwater activities for 30 or 40 years. I remember years ago the Swedish Navy took the unusal step of publishing pictures of ‘tank’ track on the bottom of one of their habours near a naval base after they had detected some ‘unusal’ activity in the area…

The Russians are old hands at this stuff.

Cheers CR

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
1 year ago
Reply to  ChariotRider

Whiskey on the Rocks springs to mind!

Naval Spetsnaz were also said to have been operating off Alaska in the late 80s, same tracks found.

And to be fair, you can bet the west did the same back, even if we will never hear of it officially regards infiltration of Soviet waters and coasts. ( I’ve heard of one such operation, told to me in person, which is of course impossible to confirm or mention here )

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
1 year ago

Multiple non-fiction books available re USN exploits: ‘Blind Man’s Bluff, ‘Stalking the Red Bear,” others. Presume similar books exist re RN.

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
1 year ago
Reply to  FormerUSAF

Not read them. You did Ivy Bells too. πŸ‘Œ

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
1 year ago

Too bad that Ronnie’s boys didn’t intercept them on a realtime basis. Russian bear fur would certainly have been flying about.

The Artist Formerly Known As Los Pollos Chicken
The Artist Formerly Known As Los Pollos Chicken
1 year ago
Reply to  ChariotRider

How do you know it was Russia? I couldn’t say for definite who is responsible and neither can anyone else ,any claims as such are just made up shite. what I do know is in February this year 3 weeks before the war President Biden stated on camera β€œIF RUSSIA INVADES THERE WILL BE NO LONGER A NORD STREAM 2 WE WILL BRING AN END TO IT’ he was then asked how will he do that? His reply β€œ I PROMISE YOU WE WILL DO THAT’ this was followed up by that lifelong war cheerleader Victoria Nuland from state dept… Read more Β»

JohninMK
JohninMK
1 year ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

The new Norway-Poland pipeline you mention, that leapfrogs across Denmark, uses part of the existing capacity of an existing Norway-EU pipeline in an extension across the Baltic. That capacity is about 20% of either NS1 or NS2. It doesn’t deliver a net increase in gas to the EU, just sends some to a new destination,

JohninMK
JohninMK
1 year ago
Reply to  ChariotRider

Both NS 1, one hole, and NS 2 , two holes, as both have two pipes it looks like one NS1 pipeline is still sound but as the turbines are u/s it doesn’t matter. The is an estimated 0.3BCM of gas escaping from NS 2. As you say, it doesn’t effect current gas flows but it has prevented any chance of the German Government, if it comes under extreme political pressure in the winter from a freezing population or its industry widely shutting down due to lack of or expensive energy, accepting Russia’s offers of starting up NS2. Biden said… Read more Β»

ChrisLondon
ChrisLondon
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

Blame Biden? Really?
There is one murderous Fascist regime involved in this mess and the whole world knows who it is.

JohninMK
JohninMK
1 year ago
Reply to  ChrisLondon

Perhaps you have forgotten exactly what Biden said back on 7th February β€œIf Russia invades β€” that means tanks or troops crossing the the border of Ukraine again β€” then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2,” he said. β€œWe will bring it to an end.” When a journalist asked how he said after a pause “I promise you we will be able to do that.” The US means what it says. Cui Bono?

ChrisLondon
ChrisLondon
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

I think Putin knows no one in Europe will ever buy from Russia again by choice so it is not going to be used, so he thinks let us cause some disruption and try to sow doubts.

The way the Ukrainians are kicking Russia’s ass means he is as desperate as he is murderous and probably insane.

By comparison the Americans would be throwing away a winning hand by doing any such thing.

Posse Comitatus
Posse Comitatus
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

Do you also think that the downed Malaysia airliner shot itself down over Ukraine? The Skirpals poisoned themselves in Salisbury? Litvenenko as well? All the cyber attacks from Russia against Western commercial entities are fake ? Or that Putins critics and opponents are just really careless next to open windows and balconies?

You just get more and more desperate.

JohninMK
JohninMK
1 year ago

OK, so how about this?

Now look at this, the military must hate OSINT, it is the flight pattern from ads-b.nl of several MH-60H tracking over the spot at which NS2 was damaged but on Sept 13th. Up to 6 were tracked. For those not aware the MH-60H is the version that has the magnetic detector, perfect for precisely locating an oil pipe and were probably from the USS Kearsarge air wing which was still in the Baltic (it left today) following the BALTOPS22 exercise in June.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/14i/nsdamage6-s.jpg

Chapter and verse is here

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/09/whodunnit-facts-related-to-the-sabotage-attack-on-the-nord-stream-pipelines.html#more

Posse Comitatus
Posse Comitatus
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

Err. Proves absolutely nothing. Unsurprisingly, your narrative is identical to that of the Kremlin, relying as it does on conspiracy bloggers to aggressively push their supposition and bullshit.

How come you’re never able to find chapter and verse on the jailed Russian anti war protesters?, or the Russian military units that are responsible for the summary executions of Ukrainian civilians? Or rapes of women and children?

Why is that information so hard for you to find?

JohninMK
JohninMK
1 year ago

As Craig Murray, that well known Scot, put it so eloquently
“The Nordstream 2 pipeline allows Russia to send gas to Western Europe without paying transit fees to Ukraine and Poland. Russia just completed it in the teeth of massive opposition from Ukraine, Poland and USA. Now they are trying to convince you it was Russia who blew it up”

Posse Comitatus
Posse Comitatus
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

You’ll be telling us next that nice Mr Putin was trying to give the gas away for free . Nothing eloquent about what you quoted, just more supposition and bullshit.

Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago

He is so desperate as if he doesn’t buck up his efforts he will be in a flying turret very soon!

JohninMK
JohninMK
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

Further to that comment, Victoria Nuland, of “F….the EU” fame said in January, ahead of Biden “One way or another we will not allow it” of NS2. She is important in the State Department playing a major role in the coup in Kiev in 2014.

Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

Oh dear oh dear your desperation is vey sad to see, amusing, but sad!

Posse Comitatus
Posse Comitatus
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

There you go again, ‘ the coup’ , pushing once again Kremlin bullshit. There was no coup, the popular will of the people against a government that was a puppet of the Kremlin is democracy in action, similar to what happened throughout Eastern Europe in the early nineties. How distraught you must have been back then!! People deciding their own future, not a politburo of orc apparatchiks.

Is being consistently wrong a Russophile thing or a symptom of your inferiority complex?

Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

Oh dear is that the best interpretation oh his words, the best you can do, or as is more likely what you have to say! Didn’t Putin call his war, which he is losing, a special military operation? A phrase which you have used in the past, as opposed to illegal invasion.

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
1 year ago
Reply to  ChariotRider

Noted reports stating that explosions may have been the result of sabotage by Mad Vlad’s Slobbering Orcs, but frankly nonplussed by that possible explanation. Russia invested some capital in building the pipelines; wouldn’t a more rational explanation be substandard (or nonexistent) maintenance practices and fire igniting gas bubble/pocket. Strange tidings, indeed…πŸ€”πŸ˜³

JohninMK
JohninMK
1 year ago
Reply to  FormerUSAF

It seems unlikely as Russia has a valve at the end of the pipelines that they just turn off. They even hoped to be able to supply Germany at some point in the future. Even though Russia only owned about half, the rest by EU companies, it poured billions in including sending a pipelayer from the far east after the Swiss one was sanctioned. To have 3 pipelines damaged virtually simultaneously probably excludes anything other than sabotage.

ChariotRider
ChariotRider
1 year ago
Reply to  FormerUSAF

Hi FormerUSAF, I would tend to agree if it wasn’t for the fact that both pipelines were hit at or close to the same time. Coincidences like that I find hard to believe, especially at times like these… Also, I don’t think that Putin would give a damn about the investment so long as he gets his own way. I know this might sound a bit hardline but Putin has always done what suits him, that which gets him what he wants and to hell with the rest of us! I think it is really telling that Moscow’s response to… Read more Β»

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
1 year ago
Reply to  ChariotRider

Hmmm…yes, on reflection, nearly simultaneous random event explosions are probably in the lottery range of probability. The putative level of Mad Vlad’s willingness to escalate/degree of desperation to prevail, is a tad disquieting…πŸ€”πŸ˜±

ChariotRider
ChariotRider
1 year ago
Reply to  FormerUSAF

Just a tad…

I see you’re getting the hang of English understatement. ο»ΏπŸ˜‰ο»Ώ

Cheers CR

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
1 year ago
Reply to  ChariotRider

Blimey!…or, oh, rather, old chap…however, reliably informed that using phrase “toodle-pip and tally ho” is no longer deemed fashionable. πŸ˜‰πŸ˜

JohninMK
JohninMK
1 year ago
Reply to  FormerUSAF

More interestingly, flight paths are now on social media that were tracked by a Dutch company of a group of US MH-60H overflying the Baltic near the site of the NS2 explosion on Sept 13th. The MH-60H is the version that has the magnetic detector which would be perfect for exactly locating a pipeline on the seabed. These aircraft were probably off a ship in the US flotilla that took part in BALTOPS22 back in June but which only left the Baltic today. Make of that what you will but if you are curious you will find chapter and verse… Read more Β»

Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

Desperation, but anyway, we are still interested in your opinion on the current recruitment and training process of your fav little nonce army? Do you agree with the recruitment of convicted rapists from jail, to be put in uniform and sent to Ukraine? What about murderers, thieves? Violent criminals?

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

As PC has noted elsewhere on thread in response to a different post, “you are aware that causation and correlation are not the same thing?” (Sorry for the accredited plagiarism, PC, but your comment is very appropos.). In any event, USAF has significant number of aircraft in theater, flying significant number of different routes. Coincidences can, and do, occur

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
1 year ago
Reply to  FormerUSAF

(and USN)

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
1 year ago
Reply to  FormerUSAF

Actually, MH-60M, if identified correctly, is an USA asset.

Posse Comitatus
Posse Comitatus
1 year ago
Reply to  JohninMK

Cut the bullshit. You sound just the same as you did pre invasion, denying and deflecting. Russia has a long and sordid history of attacking Western infrastructure and interests. This was a Russian act of sabotage. They needed to do something to distract from their battlefield defeats.

Farouk
Farouk
1 year ago

So you get informed you are going to get deployed , you get issued all your extra kit, go through pre-deployment training, you all moan as it’s stuff you know inside out, but you grin and bear it, and then the day comes, you (As lims) pack your bed spaces into MFO boxes , board that bus and head towards Oxford with your mates in which to spend a night in gateway house before leaving on a jet plane.

Then there’s the Russian version

Last edited 1 year ago by Farouk
Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  Farouk

Hilarious, but sad as well as they are completely fucked.

Nick C
Nick C
1 year ago
Reply to  Farouk

Ye Gods! If that is real, and I see no reason why it’s not, they are just intending to add as much cannon fodder as they can. If I was a Russian β€˜conscript’ today I would be looking for that get out qr code as soon as I got anywhere near any action

farouk
farouk
1 year ago
Reply to  Nick C

Nick C wrote:

“Ye Gods! If that is real, and I see no reason why it’s not,”

It gets worse regards the quality of training these lads receive:

ChariotRider
ChariotRider
1 year ago
Reply to  Farouk

Cannon fodder… The Russian state is corrupt beyond reason. I bet that kit they should getting was sold off by some bent officer or never delivered by a crooked factory owner. I know the Russian people have a history of putting up with a lot dirt in the name of the motherland but surely in the 21st century they can see they are being thrown away without any thought or humanity? Some morale speech..! I bet they must be wondering what the hell they are walking into. This is the modern day equivalent to having to share one rifle between… Read more Β»

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
1 year ago
Reply to  Farouk

Very interesting, presume a recording of a real presentation?

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker
1 year ago
Reply to  Farouk

Next week pictures emerge of Russians stealing tampon machines from public lavatories.
Day after Russians call the machine helpline to ask why magic tampon making machine stopped giving out tampons.

Airborne
Airborne
1 year ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ‘

dan
dan
1 year ago

Putin waited to invade Ukraine for the 2nd time when Biden was in the White House. Just like the first time when he invaded under Obama/Biden. Biden the gift that keeps giving. Ugh.

John Stott
John Stott
1 year ago
Reply to  dan

Biden has a finger called Hunter, found in many pies. Maybe after November he will realise his time is limited. Then in 24 we just might have an adult as Potus.

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
1 year ago
Reply to  John Stott

Firmly believe this conflict will be resolved, in one manner or another, before end of CY24. Either all parties seek negotiation (doubtful), Mad Vlad is terminated (a cheerful if somewhat problematic proposition to handicap) or a smoking hole occurs in some portion of the Northern Hemisphere. Have Vegas oddsmakers started a line on this?

Posse Comitatus
Posse Comitatus
1 year ago
Reply to  dan

You are aware that causation and correlation are not the same thing? And that Trump, for all intents and purposes was a Russian shill.

Trump lost. Get over it.

Netking
Netking
1 year ago
Reply to  dan

What was your guy Trump doing with those top secret documents?

Gunbuster
Gunbuster
1 year ago
Reply to  Netking

But they where not Top Secret. Trump declassified them in his head so everything is good…apparently…

Joss
Joss
1 year ago

Do you not get bored of recycling the same article every week.

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker
1 year ago
Reply to  Joss

Defence tends to do the same things over again.
You don’t have to read it. The internet is full of all kinds of funny crazy stuff to look at

Joss
Joss
1 year ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

So does every sector. It doesn’t make it news.

Shaunanotherone
Shaunanotherone
1 year ago

JohninMK comment “20,000 fully trained, fresh Chechen forces are already moving in”. My understanding of this, what with them being used as back up for Russian Forces, plus the thousands who have joined the Ukraine forces is this. The untrained Russian Troops (unfortunate and unwilling cannon fodder) once they realise the situation they are in, as their fellow enforced conscription companions start loosing their arms, legs and lives will be killed by Chenchens in front of them fighting for Ukraine, plus when they try to run away will be killed by Chechens behind them fighting for the Russians. It seems… Read more Β»

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
1 year ago

Let us assume that Putin completes the annexation of occupied Ukrainian territory in the near future, and aubsequently transmits an ultimatum to the Ukrainians to either immediately cease and desist from their counter-offensive or face unrestricted CBRN warfare. What will the US, UK and France do at that point? Yes, the rest of NATO will seek to have input into decision process, but in reality it will be the nuclear powers who will be staring at each other, eyeball to eyeball. Call Putin’s presumed bluff, ala Kruschev and the Cuban missile crisis and continue the counter-offensive? A bold, high risk… Read more Β»

FormerUSAF
FormerUSAF
1 year ago
Reply to  FormerUSAF

…subsequently…,πŸ™„

Peter tattersll
Peter tattersll
1 year ago

Mad how it sounds Russia lack of any sort of decent conventional military might bring Nuke war

Peter tattersll
Peter tattersll
1 year ago

John Mk Russian troll finding it difficult now to sell a 3rd rate Russian military . I live in Turkey for 4 months in winter the Turkish leader under pressure for buying the vastly over hyped junk S400 . The Turks have run test on the S400 and now saying it’s 1970s tec .

Simon
Simon
1 year ago

it is being report that Ukrainian troops have surround Lyman.