Nine members of the crew of a Trident carrying submarine have been expelled from Royal Navy amid cocaine and affairs allegations.

HMS Vigilant is the third Vanguard class submarine in the Royal Navy. Vigilant carries the Trident ballistic missile, the United Kingdom’s nuclear deterrent.

The nine personnel were discharged from the Royal Navy after testing positive for drugs.

A Royal Navy spokesman said:

“We can confirm an investigation is under way, but it would be inappropriate to comment further at this stage. Any allegations of wrongdoing are taken very seriously and will be dealt with appropriately.”

The Daily Mail reported that the drug detected by the tests was cocaine.

It is also being reported that a Defence Secretary Michael Fallon has demanded mandatory drugs testing across the entire submarine fleet.

Last month, the submarines captain was relieved of his command after an alleged “inappropriate relationship” with a member of his crew and is currently being investigated following the allegations, which involve a female member of crew.

Along with the captain, the Executive Officer was also removed from his post amid allegations of an improper relationship with a different female crew member.

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Mr Bell

They seem to have a few problems on the subs at the moment. Spending long periods of time submerged is almost certainly going to make people want to let off steam, but taking category A drugs is not a reasonable pass time for crew of a nuclear submarine. having seen the effects of cocaine addiction first hand i utterly agree these crew members cannot remain on the submarines, they have been compromised and potentially if addicted could compromise the mission or nuclear deterrent. I guess with a programme of drugs addiction recovery and rehab with drugs testing/ monitoring they could… Read more »

Geoffrey Roach

If you put male and female crew members together in a confined space for three months there is a better than even chance that something will happen but a Captain and and X O having affairs with two separate women on the same boat as nine crew members taking coke. What the hell is going on. I lost an old school friend to heroin some thirty years ago after he had done his third tour of Northern Ireland. His nerves were shot and he ended up living like an alley cat. Another school mate and I got him out twice… Read more »

Pacman27

I think a fair question would be are the guys getting enough help to cope with the stresses and strains of their type of work. I would have expected mandatory drugs tests to have been in place for some time now across the whole UK military and also some sort of advance psychological and mental wellbeing help.

It seems to me that not enough is being done on the basics of mental and physical wellbeing for the troops and perhaps this is an under appreciated area that has not received the funding it requires.

Geoffrey Roach

Absolutely right. We all post a lot about equipment and budgets and whatever. I am sure that we all care for the most important item of ” kit ” and that’s the man or woman behind everything but there is certainly more that can be done. Another item for your M P ?

Personally I have no sympathy. It’s pretty well sign posted within the military that there is zero tolerance for drug use. So if you’re big enough to take drugs whilst serving, you’re big enough to accept the consequences.

As for the affair, I find it hilarious that the government allowed women to serve on submarines, but only as officers…..cos officers aren’t subject to human feelings? ??‍♂️?

Ryan

I mean after going through officer training I guess that theyre meant to appreciate the consequences of their actions a bit more over the enlisted personnel. They knew the consequences of their actions just like any personnel that took drugs. They enforce that throughout training so ops shouldnt be any different

dadsarmy

It seems likely that the Vigilant was docked at the time in the US, and that the crew were ashore at the time, but tested when they came back on board – on command of the officers. Not really sure what to make of it myself, they weren’t actually on active duty at the time. But with the media scrutiny and delight at anything that makes the RN look bad, even including fishing boats apparently discovering a huge smoky hulking aircraft carrier moored up in the Moray Firth (in international waters, outside the 12 nm), they really have to be… Read more »

Tim

We treat our armed forces badly. We cut back what they need and don’t cut any rear echelons or civil service hats. We give them bad heavy rifles, bad boots, make them share kit and body armour. We don’t give them enough helicopters so they have to travel in Land Rovers through areas that the RAF have bombed. They get blown up, they are shot at, overworked, underpaid, under protected by a government that looks after MOD and industry jobs more than it looks after them. They are all under threat of more cuts except Majors and above who will… Read more »

Geoffrey Roach

Sadly Tim, so much of what you say is true. Your post sounds like a story from Napoleonic times and the tragedy is that it’s happening now. I can remember, particularly looking at Gordon B’s smug face rabbiting on about something or other while our people were getting blown up, stitched up and f….d up because of the lack of almost everything they needed.
The thing that amazes me and makes me feel humble is the strength of character shown by the men and women concerned. If a youngster ever needed a real hero……..

Yes the rifles are heavy, but I’d say our personal kit is pretty decent these days. Boots especially are a huge improvement from the CS95 rubbish.

dadsarmy

And by the way, “reports” say Vigilant was in the US to pick up warheads. Err, no, it would be Trident missiles and it’s very unlikely there’d be one single warhead on board.

andy

this is not something new when i was serving in the military it was common place for the camp to be locked down the nominal roll for all personnel in the camp would be taken names would be selected, then off to the drugs team you would go,you would be asked if your on any medication which would be checked on you medical record and by the M/O,then you would be tested if you failed you would be gone by the end of the following day..a lot of lads i know if they wanted out knew this was the quickest… Read more »

Malcolm

I was onboard HMS Eskimo in 1980. We did an Africa run ashore in Abidjan (Ivory Coast). I was on duty on one day and couldn’t go ashore – but when I got to the mess later in the day (prior to rounds) the mess smelled of weed and everyone inside was wasted. The OOD came to our mess as part of evening rounds, the mess door was opened and everyone just sat there, mouths opening, laughing and high as kites. They were arrested quickly by MAA, locked in the fridge flat and made to sleep on bare steel deck,… Read more »

Elliott

9 crewman on powder and the Captain and XO both sleeping around with their crew. I wouldn’t know whether to condemn the crew or give them a unit citation for getting any work done at all. However I do think that Nukes and cocaine are really not a match made in heaven. I know contraband has always been common but it seemed that hiding it has become a lost art.

Harold

Sounds like a really disillusioned work force to me.

James

Sound like a lack of strong leadership to me. But since the lead officer was a bit busy screwing one of his crew, who’s surprised?

The recently-depose Captain should do time.

Elliott

For what? Locking men and women in a tube for months on end without castrating them first. Well the the result is predictable to anyone with a ounce of cynicism/realism. Cashier him yes along with whoever he was screwing but prison no.
The drug use is far more concerning.

Dan01

A lot of this i believe is down to the lack of boats. It is too difficult to manage fatigue whn you have so few boats. If they were to increase the number of boats then the rest time will be a lot longer and maybe retention would be better as well.

Ian

Humans eh!

Few I suspect would condone white powder traces and I won’t either.

What I will say is Fallon’s response has been particularly pernicious as a way of slapping down the navy at the moment for being a bit too big for their boots in the press trying to lobby to protect their vitals.

He is a 1st class anchor

In the Downing Street port their are a lot of em

Ian

And in a delicious ironic twist Fallon is named in the Tory sexual miscreants whips list for having ‘odd sexual penchants’