HMS Prince of Wales has been commissioned into the Royal Navy today.

HRH The Duchess of Cornwall, as the ship’s Lady Sponsor, alongside HRH The Prince of Wales, presided over the ceremony at HM Naval Base Portsmouth this morning, to an audience of 2,000 from industry, allies, friends and families.

Commanding Officer, Captain Darren Houston, read the commissioning warrant to the crew and guests gathered in the hangar which will soon house F-35 jets and a variety of helicopters. Among those watching were the First Sea Lord, Admiral Tony Radakin, ambassadors from France and USA, and the commander of the US Sixth Fleet, Vice Admiral Lisa Franchetti.

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The iconic White Ensign then replaced the Blue Ensign which has flown since she left Rosyth in September for her initial sea trials. Leading Writer Megan Ryan (27, from Stoke-On-Trent) was granted the honour of raising the new ensign; and youngest sailor, Chef Seth Day (17), cut the commissioning cake with Liesl Houston, the Commanding Officer’s wife.

Yesterday, the aircraft carrier was officially handed over to the Royal Navy by the Aircraft Carrier Alliance.

Additionally, the Royal Navy have announced that the Prince of Wales (the person) was today honoured by the Royal Navy with a new title to celebrate the commissioning of his namesake ship.

Henceforth the Duke of Cornwall will be the Honorary Commodore-in-Chief, Aircraft Carriers, a title bestowed on him by the First Sea Lord Admiral Tony Radakin, with the blessing of Her Majesty the Queen.

The Aircraft Carrier Alliance is a unique relationship between BAE Systems, Babcock, Thales, and the UK Ministry of Defence. More than 10,000 people across the UK have been involved in the programme to deliver the Queen Elizabeth Class aircraft carriers, with six British shipbuilding yards across the country playing a vital role in the ships’ design and construction.

HMS Prince of Wales, the second of two aircraft carriers designed and constructed for the Royal Navy, recently sailed into her home port of Portsmouth Naval Base for the first time.

More than £100m has been spent updating and enhancing the facilities at Her Majesty’s Naval Base, Portsmouth, including an upgrade to the Princess Royal Jetty which will be home to both carriers. A new Combined Heat and Power facility has also been established to deliver power to the carriers, increase energy resilience and reduce the carbon footprint of the Base. Made up of three natural gas generators, at full load, the facility can produce enough energy to power 28,000 homes.

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The Queen Elizabeth Class aircraft carriers are the largest, most capable and powerful surface warships ever constructed in the UK, each providing our armed forces with a four acre military operating base. Once fully operational, the ships will provide the forward deployed base for the UK’s F-35B aircraft, delivering an uncompromising carrier strike capability to the UK’s armed forces anywhere in the world.

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Mark B

Great two carriers. Much more testing obviously but she immediately adds to the deterrent effect as she could be pressed into service with the support of the RAF/ARMY and/or US Marines?

Harold

‘Honorary Commodore-in-Chief, Aircraft Carriers’ ………. lol

Levi Goldsteinberg

In other news, once again the Americans are rather characteristically trying to undermine our aviation industry over AGAIN by leaning very heavily on Japan not to join BAE Tempest

Who needs enemies when you have your friends to screw you over at every turn

Levi Goldsteinberg
Steven Greenall

what do you expect him to do,he,s looking after americas arms industry and safe guarding jobs,and british politicians should fight equally as hard for our arms manufacturers and jobs here

The Artist Formerly known as Los Pollos Chicken

I agree man with your general sentiments on this but sometimes too many cooks spoil the broth . Collaboration between multiple nations cannot be as easy as between 2 or 3 I.e U.K. Italy Sweden or U.K. and 1 or the other. U.K. just needs one committed partner nation to share cost and it could be done . Or maybe I’m just looking at this wrong and it’s whenever France is involved disagreements happen? Hopefully though japan does get involved but I won’t hold my breath .

Levi Goldsteinberg

You’ll have to forgive the typos above. America is a serial extorter of its allies and always seek to keep them down through massively unfair tariffs, protectionism, bullying and arrogant demanding. Considering the US is demanding Japan buy off-the-shelf American products rather than sharing construction and development with the UK, there is hope they’ll use Tempest. Especially in light of the lack of control the US gives to countries purchasing their planes, the bullying demands they’ve just made to Japan about protection payments and the eye-watering costs and delays their F35s started being subjected to immediately after the contract was… Read more »

Herodotus

Yep, that sounds pretty accurate to me Levi. Perhaps those that think we are going to get a great trade deal with the USA post-Brexit, need to join the real world!

Levi Goldsteinberg

See I land on the pro-Brexit side of things but I certainly agree the US is no friend of ours and will never play fair. They’re racketeers and extorters and they can’t be trusted in a pinch, at least not since the end of WW2

Herodotus

And why I would argue that membership of a huge EU economy is beneficial to Britain. The USA will pick off our industrial base (what’s left of it) piece by piece. BAE is effectively an American company…and not allowed to be known by its full title lest it causes upset!

julian1

Spot on

andy reeves

play them at their own game buy, buy, buy shares in american industries and, when the time is right, dump them on the market and watch the u.s defence industry go into meltdown.

Spyinthesky

Of course till the 2nd WW British finsnce institutions owned a large percentage of US industry all, like our half share in Ford of Britain surrendered just like so much of our intellectual property as part of Lend Lease. Effectively by staying in the war long enough so that they and Russia could win it we lost our place at the top table while enabling the US to dominate the post War World that Trump is so keen to return to. No surprise therefore I guess he sees exploiting us for all he’s got as reflecting and repeating that former… Read more »

Daniele Mandelli

“And why I would argue that membership of a huge EU economy is beneficial to Britain.”

A fading one, with the growing markets elsewhere!

Global Villages and all that?

I keep quiet on Brexit these days but if others are still banging the propoganda drum then cannot be left behind can we.

Daniele Mandelli

And by the way, I agree with the posts on American behaviour.

A balance needs to be sought, as our link to the USA Intelligence wise is vital, as is US involvement with NATO.

andy reeves

IF THERE’S A SINGLE CENT TO BE GAINED FROM ANYTHING THE U.S WOULD TREAD ON THEIR BEST FRIEND FOR IT. the americans believe they are the centre of the universe and that everything revolves around them. the u.s needs to wake up to the fact that not many nations like them, or trust them

Rob N

Not quite true – there have been instances of the US buying British kit in preference to domestically produced stuff. The British Hawk trainer Was bought by the USN And now serves as the Goshawk. There are other examples of UK kit in US service. 15% of F35 is built in the UK. So the picture is not as simple as all that. I was disturbed to see the US trying to bully Turkey into buying their SAM system. Their approach was very high handed and only served to push Turkey more into the Russian camp. If tge US does… Read more »

Trevor

Go take a cold shower.

andy reeves

i have one every day, colder the better, but when i’m narked cold water won’t shift it

Mark B

I’m not sure anyone with a knowledge of business was expecting anything but a two way street when it comes to trade. Remember though that the US does a lot of business in the UK which they won’t want disrupted.

julian1

when we talk about US business in the UK, what we really mean is US companies extracting revenue and profit and UK companies and IP being consumed. I will believe America really cares for the relationship when I see US companies building hardware in the UK or better still, America importing UK goods and services. Not sure I’ll see that, not whilst “MAGA” is order of the day. I think any trade deal will be negative to the UK – we are already seeing that for internet tax avoidance, pharma and most likely agri/food sectors. What next? It’s been said… Read more »

andy reeves

who stole all the north sea oil money? u.s companies

Rob N

See my above comment on the Goshawk and T35….

andy reeves

for all the nicey,nicey talk, the u.s doesn’t give a fig for ANYONE BUT THEMSELVES, ALWAYS HAVE, ALWAYS WILL

Nick Bowman

If you come to the States, visit the 8th Air Force museum and memorial gardens in Georgia.

Daniel

Oh yes, I’m sorry. What Mr Reeves actually meant to say was thank you so much for saving us in World War 2. Britain would have fallen to a Nazi invasion if you hadn’t been around, good thing Germany declared war on you so that you were able to come help us. I think the complimentary intent of his comment must have got lost in translation.

Daniele Mandelli

” Britain would have fallen to a Nazi invasion if you hadn’t been around”

Not sure about that. Hitlers eyes had turned east before the US became involved.

The RN, and the RAF, were still intact to stop invasion.

What saved Britain from Invasion was actually the Soviet Union.

Herodotus

What ifs are often difficult to judge. However, without oil, food and other raw materials from the USA in the early part of the war, we may have had to come to some agreement with the Nazis….and drop out. Albeit, that we had to bankrupt ourselves in funding the materials that kept us in a fight for the freedom of the Western World….quite nice of us!

andy reeves

and god bless the commonwealth coming to the aid of the ‘motherland’

Jonathan

I would clarify, what saved Britain was a mixture of our own geography (the sea is the sea even if it’s a narrow bit), the fact we actually had the political and cultural will to fight (cough…third republic) and finally the overriding nazi political dogma which insisted that land was taken from lesser races ( lucky us, that we did not hit the lesser race criteria or have a lot of land to steal). Remove any one of those and we would all (including America) be living the thousand year dream. Russia was always the aim, all other nations were… Read more »

andy reeves

indeed they should have read their history and seen what napoleon failings were

DaveyB

Totally disagree, what saved the UK from invasion was the defeat of the Luftwaffe at the Battle of Britain. The Luftwaffe quickly realised they had bitten off more than they could chew, especially as we were starting to out-produce Germany in the number of aircraft and pilots that could be sent to the “Front”. The German high command understood without control of the air, their army would have been decimated. What is not said about the BoB, was the tremendous losses faced by the then bomber command flying Fairey Battles, Bristol Blenheims and Vickers Welligtons when attacking the ports around… Read more »

Mr Bell

Thank god for that …. Davey I applaud you, another accurate depiction of military history by someone, other than myself, that has read around the issue and clearly knows his military facts. Thank you for posting the truth.

Herodotus

Congratulations on your reading ding dong. I can recommend a very good Masters Degree in ‘War and Reconstruction’ ….the one that I did some years ago! Without US aid in the form of essential supplies such as oil and aviation grade aluminium, we would have been up shit creek without a paddle.

Trevor

Germany did not have a hope in hells chance of invading britain. What might have defeated us was from within. The defeatests ranged against Churchill. It is not just Spitfires that won the Battle of Britain (or the attempted invasion), it was the will power of people like Churchill. France fell because it was corrupt inside.

andy reeves

nobody crosses our channel and enslaves us ‘rule britannia and all that

Daniele Mandelli

“what saved the UK from invasion was the defeat of the Luftwaffe at the Battle of Britain.”

I agree.

What I meant, and I probably worded it badly, was that had the Soviet Union not either defeated Hitler or embroiled him as it did, the Germans could have come back and finished the job. During 41 their air fleets were dispersed to Crete, Africa, and the Soviet Union.

Indeed, the hero’s of the Battle of Britain prevented air superiority being gained, which would have spelt problems for the RN.

Rob N

I do not think the German airforce would have had any better luck if they had returned. If anything we would have been better prepared… more planes, experienced pilots, improved air defence and ULTRA.

No I think they gave it their best shot at the BoB and failed.

andy reeves

and the brave exploits of the polish and czechoslovakian pilots who joined the R.A.F in the battle as a way to get back at the nazis who had destroyed their countries

Mr Bell

10% of RAF fighter command pilots in the battle of britain came from Czech or polish units. Yes important contribution never going to say anything against those brave men continuing the fight for freedom, but the majority were from Britain or the commonwealth.

Mr Bell

Please can those of you that no zero about the military history of WW2 stop commenting. Britain was at risk of invasion upto September 1941, after that our aircraft production, tank production and small arms production started to outstrip Germanys. By 1942 we were militarily never going to be able to be successfully invaded by Germany. We won the Battle of Britain on our own, in what was cruelly our finest hour. Even if we had lost the battle of britain and Germany had tried to invade I think the strength of the Royal Navy would have made the maintenance… Read more »

andy reeves

while the rest of the war was raging worldwide america did, as it had done in ww1, sat on the fence while britain stood alone when they finally did come into it, like ww1 they were years late, and they’ll no doubt forget that it was the u.k who were first to support their’little for export only’ conflicts in iraq and afghanistan. DANIEL when i post, i mean what i say and i don’t need a self appointed grammar specialist to tell me how to do it o.k.?

andy reeves

perhaps you could get lost as well, another matter the ‘loan’
was a struggle to pay and almost several following labour party, governments handling of the economy left little or no chance of balancing the books for many years later bankrupted

andy reeves

i’d rather slam my nut* in the fridge door!

andy reeves

why on earth would i do that.? i’m off to disneyworld first

Steve Salt

No need to go that far. The American cemetary at Madingley near Cambridge or the D Day cemetary at Colville Sur Mere above Omaha Beach are moving testament to the young men of the U S

Rob N

I have to conclude you know nothing about history. Also you know little about the American people and have no American friends. Otherwise you would know how inaccurate and offensive your comments are.

Daniele Mandelli

Moving the goalposts again.

Brexit has nothing to do with being simply a Trump US / UK Trade deal, no matter how much the Liberal Left wish to turn it so.

It is fascinating to see.

People who voted leave did not have that in their minds in 2016.

Herodotus

Really not sure what you mean. An Anglo-American Trade deal is everything to do with Brexit. By its very nature it has to be post Brexit as bilateral trade deals are not permitted. If we are leaving the EU to take advantage of the big -wide world out there, how can a trade deal with the US not be part of it. ‘People who voted leave did not have that in their minds in 2016’. You are absolutely right Daniele, the question is, what exactly was in their minds other than immigration? I suspect there was very little in their… Read more »

andy reeves

many of the leavers of the eu vote ,did so because they tired of the federalisms that told us how to operate the laws of our justice system land, who we told that they could plunder our seas

andy reeves

enough of BREXIT, I’M SICK OF THE WHOLE THING.

Herodotus

I don’t think so Andy…they probably had no idea about such matters, and cared even less….

Airborne

And once again……Golly gosh, we all soooo wish we were as worldy and educated as you!

Airborne

And there you go once again, patronising and be-littling those who think different than you, and continuing to make out your of a far superior education level than those who had chose to vote leave. Your sad superiority complex does seem disturbing.

Herodotus

Let yourself down a bit last time…didn’t you. I would stick to your area of expertise…However, I have noticed that you have recovered from your dyslexia. Excellent sentence structure, advanced use of punctuation and, altogether, at least Level 3 communication skills. Of course, that was also evident before you lost it over my, fully justified, accusation of bullying in the last thread. Some time ago we had a contributor by the handle of Rear Gunner Richards (Daniele will remember him…they got along quite well). RGR made some appalling comments about a young female Army recruit that had been abused by… Read more »

Airborne

So easy to reel you in, you bite so easy, froth fume and cannot do anything but reply! Oh and I didn’t need to bluff, I am what I and I achieved all through dedication and hard work! You keep reading the books and I will remain the content!

Airborne

Apologies for the short reply, pressed post prior to finishing my reply! I love your replies, they are so presumptuous and subtly nasty, with your misplaced arrogance and self righteous attitude. Middle class but not quite there, but always thought you should be better. And never presume that others lie, just because it may come easy to you. Please reply as us working class peasants do need your educated guidance to make sure we do as expected.

Herodotus

Lost it again! Just don’t learn, do you? Class A Pratt!

Airborne

You make this far to easy, try harder oh aged one! And class A Pratt? Ah the thin veneer of left wing civility! Keep going grumpy keep us peasants educated!

Daniele Mandelli

Morning. “Daniele will remember him…they got along quite well)” I do remember him Herodotus. And Captain Pugwash! Another arch enemy. I try and get along “quite well” with everybody if I can, even if I disagree with them. I did not care for some of RGR’s comments, but they were not directed at me, and he was always friendly enough. You should try it. Another poster here, Sole Survivor, I have great respect for, and I find his detailed explanations fascinating, and even compelling, even though I fundamentally disagree with his support for Corbyn. It might also surprise you that… Read more »

Herodotus

I have never thought you were stereotypical in any respect. When a contributor starts to argue that ‘women that join the armed services are asking for it’, I feel that it is only right that they are held to account for it….Similarly, those that go out of their way to bully others ought to be reminded that we all have a voice on this forum…..

Daniele Mandelli

“I have never thought you were stereotypical in any respect”

No, that’s fine. I was not suggesting you were concerning myself, I just thought I’d throw it in there for interest!

Herodotus

Oh, congratulations by the way, it looks as if Brexit will now go ahead! I am intrigued as to what sort of Boris we will get in the coming year. I have a feeling that it might well end up being quite a soft Brexit. Boris was really quick to play the ‘One Nation Conservative card. The February cabinet reshuffle will tell us a lot!

Daniele Mandelli

Herodotus. I’m sick of Brexit, and I campaigned for it. And I’m sick of squabbling with fellow Brits over it. My kin.

Who will replace Swinson? When I mentioned her to a colleague today they replied “who”? Not much to go on.

I would like to see Boris ease austerity and spend, especially in the north. Too much emphasis on the south east leaving those up north feeling left out.

Soft Brexit. Yes it probably will be, as I’m reading the EU will now demand compromises to agree a trade deal.

Herodotus

To be honest, I don’t care who replaces Swinson. I am more concerned about getting the Labour Party back as an electable force. There is no future in niche socialism in this country….a lot of people don’t want to know. It is time for Labour to re-stablish itself around electable Social Democratic core values.

Daniele Mandelli

I quite agree. It is healthy to have effective opposition and genuine choice.

Airborne

You always need an effective and viable opposition, and that’s where the Labour Party under Corbyn, and momentum have disgraced themselves in letting the working people of this country down! We are forced to choose from the lesser of a number of evils, not necessarily who or what we want! Cheers mate.

Daniele Mandelli

Respect mate. As always.

Airborne

Just got to take this opportunity to say thank you! If it wasn’t for you and others of your ilk, the arrogant, dismissive and patronizing way you have treated and spoke to others, who disagree with your middle class wannabe attitude, then the working man may have used his vote to get in Corbyn and his acolytes in power. However your condescending attitude has ensured that most are sick of being told how to behave and how to vote and have chosen reality over fiction! Therefore myself and others are in your debt. Many thanks and have a great evening.

andy reeves

trump and his nodding dogs see the u.k as the 51st state. they want the u.k to be subservient to their economical policies, culture, and anything they don’t have over the pond even when the u.k is the first to stand shoulder to shoulder with them on their ‘boost exports’ little wars the u.k is never acknowledged for doing so. instead we’re expected to be grateful for being invited. the americans need to wise up to the fact that the majority of the world neither likes or trusts them. their self proclaimed title of the policemen of the world and… Read more »

Cam

But doesn’t japan build versions of American jets in japan like the Mitsubishi F-2 that’s origins are the F16?

Levi Goldsteinberg

They did, though they’re locked out their own black boxes as with any export F16. Also the cost was massively inflated

In this case, the very best Japan can expect from the US is the option to do a domestic license build with limited access to information or capability for their industry. Tempest on the other hand will be a joint programme

andy reeves

and i hope a successful one.with a decent infrastructure to provide a decent production rate rather than the dribble’ production of the f 35b

Ron5

Thank you comrades for your contributions

andy reeves

just don’t involve them frenchies, they spoil every game when inter nation participation in projects is needed

Mark B

I’d take it as a complement. They know Tempest might be a commercial threat to them.

andy reeves

the u.k has GOT TO MAKE SURE A VSTOL VERSION OF THE TEMPEST IS PRODUCED.

Mark B

Andy if you mean it must be capable of operating from the carriers then I would say that was obvious unless we are planning on still using the F35 in 50 years time.

andy reeves

by the time the u.k gets its full order, the f 35 will be obsolete

andy reeves

f 35 will be obsolete years before that.

The Artist Formerly known as Los Pollos Chicken

Just like the F15 F16 and F18 all 1970’s and 80’s tech and development yes that 40 year plus shelf life of the teen series is pretty poor no way an F35 variant 30 years down the line will still be flying based on those previous jets …….. 🤪

andy reeves

if there’s a chance of them gaining a single cent, the americans woulds**t on anyone

DaveyB

Don’t forget business is war!

Dave in Pompey

Bloody marvellous…

Cam

Now let’s order another 3 type 31s minimum…..

Mark B

I vote we encourage quick delivery of those on order with the carrot of 3 more batches if they match expectations

andy reeves

i vote we tell the americans that we are reconsidering the f 35, the chance that millions of$ not coming their way as they expected would remind them that failing to give the u.k production preferences is a two way deal, the yanks played silly buggers over the coding on the f 35, because they said they didn’t trust us to have them. wellas the only level one partner in the whole programme, to see japang delivery of x amount of f 35’s while we wait shouldn’t be acceptable. hence the rethink.as for the R.A.F i’d just as well see… Read more »

Mark B

We don’t want to order F35’s until the exchange rate is better. Once its back to 1.6 we should get the squadrons the Americans know we need and then reconsider the options.

julian1

2100?

Mark B

If you are an optimist Friday morning?

Julian1

Problem is, I don’t know what “good” likes anymore

andy reeves

exchange rate 1.6? in our lifetimes?

Spyinthesky

Problem is a lot of the technology we will need for Tempest will be American or have US intellectual property rights, it’s why for example Arm has to abide by US sanctions against Iran. So as much as we might like to play hardball we really cannot afford to seriously piss them off. Especially if we are not part of a multinational European effort wider than the present one. If Japan joined, it would seriously take its potential to the next level and then some in so many ways, finance not being the least. The Meteor agreement is a small… Read more »

DaveyB

I am a bit surprised and pleased how Japan went down the Meteor route, especially with the concentrated targeting by the US to make them buy the D version of AMRAAM.

andy reeves

but after the arrogant way amerefused to pass on the codings for the f 35, because it was rumoured that they wouldn’t trust us with them a real finger to its only level 1 partner indeed, for that alone i’d reconsider order sizes.the americans are like BAE EVERYTHING IS DONE ON THEIR TERMS AND ‘STUFF THE CUSTOMER.

andy reeves

maybe look at the incorporation of asian and pacific states into a nato style organisation would be workable and go a fair way to match the expansionist goals of china.

Julian1

I’m not sure that loss of (let’s assume) 80 further orders from the UK MoD would have a big financial impact on a program that will easily surpass 3,000 airframes. I think it would create the headlines though and may influence some other countries to look elsewhere. For me, we need a minimum of 72 f35Bs as we don’t have any other choice but to fly them. Further orders beyond that, i’m all for considering what’s best for UK military and UK industry. If that means tranche 4 Typhoon, i’d Be happy with that particularly if it strengthens the Tempest… Read more »

Herodotus

Yep, I think I would go along with most of that. To constantly run around like Robin to the US’ Batman is both demeaning and not in our best interests. Europe needs to wake up to its obligations and we need to be a part of that!

andy reeves

I WAS WONDERING WHY ITS AGES SINCE THERE WERE UPDATES ON TARANIS AND DRAGON FIRE, A FOLDING WING ARMED TARANIS OPERATING FROM q.e and P.O.W would be a great addition to the versatility of them.

andy reeves

agreed but i’m hoping tempest in whatever form it takes will be well along the line, especially a vstol version

andy reeves

a tranch 4 typhoon wound have to be a 6th gen aircraft

FBW

Brilliant Idea! Kill UK aerospace that relies on the F-35 consortium. That will teach those pesky Americans….. will make the Tempest project rather difficult to complete though.

andy reeves

and get built fast enough to warrant more contracts.

andy reeves

the ability to produce quickly enough, should have been one of the key contract negotiation points

andy reeves

agreed but i’d want 6-8 in each batch. and alway have a one for one replacement policy. for any retiring vessel such as the t23’s

Ron5

I think you mean 5 Type 26’s.

andy reeves

and another 5 t45’s, the royal navy missed the option of replacing the t22 and42’s up designatingthe t22 it to a destroyer as was mooted at one time the t22 was almost every bit a destroyer, and we had lots of them.

andy reeves

maybe ask one of our multi billion aires , if they’d care to buy the navy a type 31 or two?

andy reeves

t26 and 31 actually, build time as a customer should be a priority, otherwise its like buying a new car and then being told you can’t drive it

andy reeves

no an ambitious 6 more t45 order even at the expense of t26 numbers. maybe alan sugar might buy us one.if we ask him nicely

andy reeves

slash the proposed 138 f 35’s and use the money to double the fleet size. including over 10 t 31’s, with up to 50 year life expectancy like the carriers are said to have.

andy reeves

sort out the foreign aid distributions, £200 million to a nation that harbours terrorists allows its soil to be used to train those who would do US harm step forward pakistan. the same amount to india, a nation with one of the regions best economies, over£300 million to nigeria-whats that one about? money to a despot who uses weapons of mass destruction against its own people syria, sudan why?

andy reeves

and some more, i’d say 13 + the t26’s should be a minimum target, a modern day leander i’d hope the t31 wil bel faster to produce, and operate.

Herodotus

How big is that Lieutenant on the left in the second of the hanger photos. I bet he can’t fit the standard RN bunk…perhaps he has a hammock somewhere?

Andy P

Good spot, he’s a bit of a ‘giraffe boy’. You’re right, he’ll not get a good kip in a standard scratcher.

Herodotus

I expect that posting him to an aircraft carrier is appropriate, as it is one of the few ships with adequate deckhead clearance! Astute class is a no go!

Andy P

He’s not good looking enough to be a submariner…… 😉

I’ve seen some really tall boys on boats though, a couple over 6’6″.

andy reeves

the sight and picture of both carriers in pompey harbour is a real ‘fillip to us who genuinely look to see real evidence in the upturn of the navy’s fortunes

andy reeves

have you seen the modern scratcher they’re like you get in a travelodge i slept(almost) in a hammock once, took ages to get into and i couldn’t turn over to get comfortable!

Jonathan

OMG your right he makes everyone else look like umpa-lumpas.

Herodotus

If POW want to go CATOBAR, he could launch the planes on his own!

andy reeves

magnificent, now all we need is a few aircraft for it

andy reeves

like 36 OF THEM AND ENOUGH CHOPPERS

andy reeves

thai batch 2 river, derivative, hmts KRABIhttps://www.google.com/search?q=hmts+krabi&oq=hmts+krabi&aqs=chrome..69i57j0j69i59j0.13014j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 with 76mm oto melara main gun, two extra 30mm cannon aft of the bridge wing negotiations under way for martlet to fit the extra 30mm’s this ship is designated as a corvette, should all 5 of our batch 2 rivers be upgraded like this? designated as corvettes. most nations operating corvettes include them in their front line ship inventories, if we did it with our 5 batch 2 river,corvette(?) the front line ships would increase to 24, 13 type 23’s 6 type 45’s, plus, type 26 and t31 waiting in the wings the… Read more »

john

The last Prince of Wales did not do to well,I would rather she had a better name.Illusterous for one maybe.

OldSchool

Just a very late comment. Regarding the US Lend Lease I feel some comments re US are misguided. The reason the US insisted on (often) prompt payment – with often negative financial implications for the UK was I believe because the UK never repaid its US loans from WW1. Indeed I think(?) They are still unpaid. The reason for non-payment was that France, Italy and Russia never paid their debts to the UK. Nor to the US either. Given the EU’s hypocrtical insistance (with France unsurprisingly leading the chorus) of the UK paying its EU debt on Brexit ( highly… Read more »

Herodotus

More a case of Roosevelt keeping UK PLC in business legally….being up against the America 1st movement that included such delightful characters as Henry Ford an Charles Lindberg. How times change….errr

andy reeves

what is the smudge in the background? has the isle of wight shrunk? or is it a whale or russian submarine?

Herodotus

I think it might be the island in the Firth of Forth…often mistaken for a battleship. On the other hand that could be a load of Ballocks!

andy reeves

now that ‘big lizzie ‘ has her sea legs isn’t it time we had a photo of what a full u.k battlegroup would look like with a R.FA a t45 and maybe a couple of 23’s and an astute(if one can be found that could do it.

Frank62

Great to have two big carrriers. Now we need to give them better anti-air & anti ship missile defence weaponry & an escort fleet that matches the commitments we have.

Herodotus

As you probably all know by now, Andy suffers from a bent Caps Lock key! Anyone up for doing a UKDJ crowd funding with the aim of getting him a replacement keyboard/laptop?

Julian

There’s a really interesting article posted on SavetheRoyalNavy about what to expect over the next 18 months and beyond with some good detail on numbers. It’s for the carriers as a whole, not specifically QE or PoW. The two highlights I took away, but by no means the only interesting stuff in the article were… 1 – First operational deployment in May 2020 will be an all-UK escort group. Sub, 2 x T23, 2 x T45, 1 x Tide and Fort Victoria. (Technically it doesn’t say the sub is British but I think that’s n extremely safe assumption.) Jet wing… Read more »