HMS Audacious and the USS Georgia were both berthed at the British Overseas Territory at the same time.

David Parody captured the meeting as shown below in the embedded tweet. I recommend you follow him by clicking here.

HMS Audacious is an Astute-class nuclear-powered submarine. HMS Audacious, the fourth submarine in the class, was launched in April 2017. The submarine can be employed in a variety of important roles. These include covert intelligence gathering and strategic strike using the fearsome Tomahawk Land Attack Missile.

The USS Georgia is an Ohio class ballistic missile submarine, one of four U.S. Navy submarines converted to carry cruise missiles rather than Trident missiles. You can read more about her role here.

It is unusual for two submarines to be in Gibraltar at the same time, the last time this happened was in 2019 with the USS Olympia and HMS Talent. The arrival of the two submarines has, as is routine, provoked protest from the Spanish government. It is understood that Spain protested to the US over its decision to not send the USS Georgia to Rota where the US has a permanent base.

George has a degree in Cyber Security from Glasgow Caledonian University and has a keen interest in naval and cyber security matters and has appeared on national radio and television to discuss current events. He also works for the NHS. George is on Twitter at @geoallison
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AV
AV
1 month ago

Is that what I think it is? On the back of the Georgia 🤔🤫

John Tait
John Tait
1 month ago
Reply to  AV

Special Forces Exit and ReEntry pod..?

Steve M
Steve M
1 month ago
Reply to  AV

SEAL SDV

expat
expat
1 month ago
Reply to  Steve M

Hopefully to take out the bridge between Russia and Crimea to disrupt supplies. Ukraine will claim they hit it with a missile 🙂

TypewriterMonkey
TypewriterMonkey
1 month ago
Reply to  expat

The new Neptune 2.0, land attack cruise missile!

Dave Wolfy
Dave Wolfy
1 month ago
Reply to  expat

It won’t get that far from the Med

Darren hall
Darren hall
1 month ago
Reply to  AV

Dry Deck Shelter for the delivery of special forces.

andy reeves
andy reeves
27 days ago
Reply to  Darren hall

ice cream,burgers an d a few bar b q’s.

Levi Goldsteinberg
Levi Goldsteinberg
1 month ago

Two submarines loading up on TLAMs simultaneously, with one carry an SDV. Not that we’ll ever know, but these must be heading towards the entrance to the Black Sea, surely?

DanielMorgan
DanielMorgan
1 month ago

I seriously doubt that the USS Georgia was stocking up on Tomahawks at a British base. It would have left its home port at Kings Bay already stocked.

John Mayall
John Mayall
1 month ago

None will be loading TLAMs in Gib mate.

David Persich
David Persich
1 month ago
Reply to  John Mayall

Audacious was, actually. Probably a show of force for Mr. Putin.

John Mayall
John Mayall
1 month ago

‘None’ as in US subs lol!

Richard Cooper
Richard Cooper
1 month ago

It’s like loading a revolver in a bar. There are few more public places than the docks in Gibraltar, and the obvious implication is that they are bound for the Mediterranean, even if they are not. It all puts pressure on the Russians.

andy reeves
andy reeves
27 days ago
Reply to  Richard Cooper

this reenforce that other than ib, ships and submarines will rely on bases like toulonand in italy to’fill upturkey will always be an option

David Lloyd
David Lloyd
1 month ago

The Spanish – a NATO member – have not been reported in mainstream media as supporting the Ukraine since the Russian aggression Since 2012 about 70 Russian warships have stopped at the Spanish naval base opposite Gib at Ceuta, to resupply and give their crews R&R The vessels have included submarines, frigates, destroyers, amphibious assault ships and auxiliary vessels. The frequency with which Russian navy ships call into the port – at least 10 times a year – have turned the Spanish exclave into the main base of the Russian fleet in the western Mediterranean. The Spanish should shut the… Read more »

Darren hall
Darren hall
1 month ago
Reply to  David Lloyd

Too true, sadly some NATO allies are open for business with a potential enemy

David Barry
David Barry
1 month ago
Reply to  David Lloyd

Well, I’ll wager that Ceuta is an int haven at the moment.

Should Russian crews be allowed a pivo or dva, then lots of humint material; don’t knock it, feeds a bigger picture.

Simon
Simon
1 month ago
Reply to  David Lloyd

Spain

  • 1,370 Instalaza C-90 anti-tank grenade launchers, an unspecified number of light machine guns and 700,000 bullets on 2 March 2022.
  • Unspecified shipment of arms and ammunition
  • 1 RG-31 Nyala mine-resistant vehicle configured as an ambulance
Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker
1 month ago
Reply to  Simon

Good to see. Need to keep the supplies coming.
I have wondered before about the use of bases by potential enemy’s etc. Is it purely the base operators don’t care and need the cash? Or is there more to it like it’s great opportunity to gather intel on the ships while in port?
The big test will be do the Russians get to use the base now and in the future.
Do they use the commercial part of the port or is it actual Spanish navy port?
Plenty of other ports that could be used so why this one

Supportive Bloke
Supportive Bloke
1 month ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

You would hope so. That way NATO might have a better idea as to the state of the ships than Putin. You would, in principle, get a good look from the port CCTV and can sit there and monitor EM with an aerial practically on board so if anything is Switched on you will know about what is on board instantly. You can also see what is connected disconnected and what is maintained with a pair of binoculars from any nearby building by monitoring maintenance and inspection routines. No idea if that is what is going on, mind, but it… Read more »

David_s
David_s
1 month ago
Reply to  David Lloyd

They stopped routinely giving them permission to call at Ceuta in late 2016 – I am not sure how many have been allowed to dock since then; but you can read into the fact it was not completely ruled out because the Russkies acted surprised when two of their hunks of junk were denied access late last year. There seems to be some ‘strategic partnership’ Spain entered into with Russia – which I am not sure how compatible that is with being in NATO. (To be honest there are a few other allies and NATO members whose ties to Moscow… Read more »

andy reeves
andy reeves
27 days ago
Reply to  David Lloyd

indeed keep gib a british stronghold and ignore spain.

Quentin D63
Quentin D63
1 month ago

Good to see RN subs getting armed. It will be interesting to see if the RAN goes with the/an Astute design and if any of the boats will be potentially be built in the UK and if there will be any additional boats for the RN fleet with any UK defence budget uplift and prior to any newer designs?

Daniele Mandelli
Daniele Mandelli
1 month ago
Reply to  Quentin D63

I’d say no to all is likely. And there is no room for more SSN at this time at Barrow.

John Stevens
John Stevens
1 month ago

I see the RN is down to five attack submarines now.. Hopefully by the end of 2026 will be back up to seven Astute sub’s.

John Stevens
John Stevens
1 month ago
Reply to  John Stevens

Good to see the US and UK sub’s in Gibraltar..

Graham Moore
Graham Moore
1 month ago
Reply to  John Stevens

..and to think we had 28 attack subs (SSN/SSK) in 1982!

ExcalibursTemplar
ExcalibursTemplar
1 month ago
Reply to  Graham Moore

🙁

Martin
Martin
1 month ago
Reply to  Graham Moore

Because the Soviets had 200.

Jonno
Jonno
1 month ago
Reply to  Graham Moore

My point exactly.

Deep32
Deep32
1 month ago
Reply to  John Stevens

No, unfortunately at the moment it’s only 4 as Trumph is still in refit. But yes, planned to be at 7 by 2026.

John Stevens
John Stevens
1 month ago
Reply to  Deep32

Ta.. For the info:

Jonno
Jonno
1 month ago
Reply to  John Stevens

We should get Cammel Laird into building SSK’s fast.

Jonno
Jonno
1 month ago
Reply to  Jonno

Or Plymouth. Armstrongs had such a hold and monopoly on warship production in 1900, the Admiralty started building battleships themselves and they built Dreadnought in 12 months in Portsmouth.

Paul T
Paul T
1 month ago

+1 to all questions being a No sadly.

Jonno
Jonno
1 month ago

This is typical under investing in production facilities by BAE. Help us if we should ever get involved in a WAR and we needed to ramp up production! BAE would be building things in wooden sheds. They shut Portsmouth shipyard. I have such doubts about BAE’s commitment.

Darren hall
Darren hall
1 month ago
Reply to  Quentin D63

I was reading the other day that the Aussies re looking at a Nuclear version of the Collins…
The Astute may be too big for them.. Will try and re-find the article and link it…

Steven B
Steven B
1 month ago
Reply to  Darren hall

Check the date, think it might have been an April Fool

DMJ
DMJ
1 month ago
Reply to  Steven B

It was! clarified later in the day on navalnews.com that it was an April Fool

John Roberts
John Roberts
1 month ago

Russians are known to have an extra undersea boat in the black sea fully armed with 16 misille s must be in response to the extra threat I suspect.

David Barry
David Barry
1 month ago

Is she along as a distraction a la last time when we were dancing with multiple Russian naval platforms? Could become quite heated.

Martin
Martin
1 month ago

Spanish protested to US ambassador that a USN submarine was in Gibraltar and not Spanish base.

David Barry
David Barry
1 month ago
Reply to  Martin

Linky?

ExcalibursTemplar
ExcalibursTemplar
1 month ago
Reply to  David Barry

I think it was posted on here in the last week or so.

Monkey spanker
Monkey spanker
1 month ago
Reply to  Martin

I had thought the Spanish protests were going to be about the nuclear issue, turns out it’s not, it’s the fact it’s Gibraltar!
What’s the point. U.K. isn’t giving Gibraltar to Spain. Just a waste of time and money. There’s probably a whole team employed just to complain about Gibraltar.
Funny Spain hadn’t led by example of giving back its oversea territories.

David Steeper
David Steeper
1 month ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

I’ve found a good way to piss of any Spanish tools I come across. Just call Spain North Gibraltar. They love it. 😉

craig
craig
27 days ago
Reply to  Monkey spanker

It was nuclear safety they also complained about, but didn’t explain how that wouldn’t be an issue if USS Georgia docked at their base of course

Airborne
Airborne
1 month ago

They need to be aware of the newly converted Russian submarine the “Moskva” in the Black sea, who has “heroically converted itself into the newest Russkie Navy Submarine, bravely taking this heroic struggle for the motherland to rid the seabed of evil Azov and other Ukraninian Nazis”……..

Lusty
Lusty
1 month ago
Reply to  Airborne

To be fair, the front fell off… 😂😂

(in before the internet comes to say nO iT dIdNt!)

David_s
David_s
1 month ago

Both of these boats are quite good – maybe middling to average; but I think we have to admit that they are nothing compared to the newest Russian submarine – the 12,000 ton Moskva, what an awesome vessel that is.

Northco
Northco
1 month ago
Reply to  David_s

Nothing Russia has is Awesome, just useless.

Lusty
Lusty
1 month ago
Reply to  Northco

You’re wrong. The Moskva is truly an awesome submarine. Plus, it’s the only part of the Russian military that has successfully completed its mission. It was told to fuck itself.. and it did. Awesome machine.

geoff
geoff
1 month ago

This photo is of a Unit of Zulu Game guards in the old Natal Parks Board. Brave and efficient men organised on quasi military lines under whose protection virtually no Rhino were poached

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Last edited 1 month ago by geoff
David Barry
David Barry
1 month ago
Reply to  geoff

Are you suggesting the could give the Russians lessons?

geoff
geoff
1 month ago
Reply to  David Barry

Absolutely David. Whatever one feels about the British Empire, we were superb administrators and organisers. Units such as the Kings African Rifles, the BSAP and indeed the Natal Parks Board defined the meaning of excellence and could sure give those Ruskies a run for their money!!
I had the privilege to work with men such as these on a game reserve project and as a Parks Board Honorary Officer and you could find no better on the planet.

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Richard Cooper
Richard Cooper
1 month ago

Sabre rattling! At just the right moment, too.

John Hartley
John Hartley
1 month ago

I see the US military have just picked Sig for their new rifle & machinegun in the new brass/steel 6.8×51 80000psi cartridge.

andy reeves
andy reeves
27 days ago

in these times of global unrest, i think, if finland and sweden join the alliance, then,i believe the alliance would be well advised to look at expanding NATO with a iew to a wider geographic makup. bringing countries such as cyprus and malta would provide a more balanced coverage on a wider scope. gibraltar too, due to its strategic location should not be ignored, as it has been. i think the permanent basing of a couple of t23’s and hopefully a type 45 or arleigh burke would be a good starting point. also a squadron of f 35’s and a… Read more »