HMS Audacious and the USS Georgia were both berthed at the British Overseas Territory at the same time.
David Parody captured the meeting as shown below in the embedded tweet. I recommend you follow him by clicking here.
@RoyalNavy HMS Audacious and @USNavy USS Georgia, head to head at HM Naval Base #Gibraltar. Not a sight you see every day! @WarshipsIFR @NavyLookout @akefford @CovertShores pic.twitter.com/Zf9yY6Wj4F
— David Parody 🇬🇮 (@dparody) April 19, 2022
HMS Audacious is an Astute-class nuclear-powered submarine. HMS Audacious, the fourth submarine in the class, was launched in April 2017. The submarine can be employed in a variety of important roles. These include covert intelligence gathering and strategic strike using the fearsome Tomahawk Land Attack Missile.
The USS Georgia is an Ohio class ballistic missile submarine, one of four U.S. Navy submarines converted to carry cruise missiles rather than Trident missiles. You can read more about her role here.
It is unusual for two submarines to be in Gibraltar at the same time, the last time this happened was in 2019 with the USS Olympia and HMS Talent. The arrival of the two submarines has, as is routine, provoked protest from the Spanish government. It is understood that Spain protested to the US over its decision to not send the USS Georgia to Rota where the US has a permanent base.
Is that what I think it is? On the back of the Georgia 🤔🤫
Special Forces Exit and ReEntry pod..?
SEAL SDV
Hopefully to take out the bridge between Russia and Crimea to disrupt supplies. Ukraine will claim they hit it with a missile 🙂
The new Neptune 2.0, land attack cruise missile!
It won’t get that far from the Med
Dry Deck Shelter for the delivery of special forces.
ice cream,burgers an d a few bar b q’s.
Two submarines loading up on TLAMs simultaneously, with one carry an SDV. Not that we’ll ever know, but these must be heading towards the entrance to the Black Sea, surely?
I seriously doubt that the USS Georgia was stocking up on Tomahawks at a British base. It would have left its home port at Kings Bay already stocked.
None will be loading TLAMs in Gib mate.
Audacious was, actually. Probably a show of force for Mr. Putin.
‘None’ as in US subs lol!
It’s like loading a revolver in a bar. There are few more public places than the docks in Gibraltar, and the obvious implication is that they are bound for the Mediterranean, even if they are not. It all puts pressure on the Russians.
this reenforce that other than ib, ships and submarines will rely on bases like toulonand in italy to’fill upturkey will always be an option
The Spanish – a NATO member – have not been reported in mainstream media as supporting the Ukraine since the Russian aggression
Since 2012 about 70 Russian warships have stopped at the Spanish naval base opposite Gib at Ceuta, to resupply and give their crews R&R
The vessels have included submarines, frigates, destroyers, amphibious assault ships and auxiliary vessels.
The frequency with which Russian navy ships call into the port – at least 10 times a year – have turned the Spanish exclave into the main base of the Russian fleet in the western Mediterranean. The Spanish should shut the fcuk up
Too true, sadly some NATO allies are open for business with a potential enemy
Well, I’ll wager that Ceuta is an int haven at the moment.
Should Russian crews be allowed a pivo or dva, then lots of humint material; don’t knock it, feeds a bigger picture.
Spain
Good to see. Need to keep the supplies coming.
I have wondered before about the use of bases by potential enemy’s etc. Is it purely the base operators don’t care and need the cash? Or is there more to it like it’s great opportunity to gather intel on the ships while in port?
The big test will be do the Russians get to use the base now and in the future.
Do they use the commercial part of the port or is it actual Spanish navy port?
Plenty of other ports that could be used so why this one
You would hope so.
That way NATO might have a better idea as to the state of the ships than Putin.
You would, in principle, get a good look from the port CCTV and can sit there and monitor EM with an aerial practically on board so if anything is Switched on you will know about what is on board instantly.
You can also see what is connected disconnected and what is maintained with a pair of binoculars from any nearby building by monitoring maintenance and inspection routines.
No idea if that is what is going on, mind, but it would be an easy way of hovering up a lot of information that is otherwise quite hard to get hold of.
This way nobody is really at risk gathering the intel.
indeed keep gib a british stronghold and ignore spain.
Good to see RN subs getting armed. It will be interesting to see if the RAN goes with the/an Astute design and if any of the boats will be potentially be built in the UK and if there will be any additional boats for the RN fleet with any UK defence budget uplift and prior to any newer designs?
I’d say no to all is likely. And there is no room for more SSN at this time at Barrow.
I see the RN is down to five attack submarines now.. Hopefully by the end of 2026 will be back up to seven Astute sub’s.
Good to see the US and UK sub’s in Gibraltar..
..and to think we had 28 attack subs (SSN/SSK) in 1982!
🙁
Because the Soviets had 200.
My point exactly.
No, unfortunately at the moment it’s only 4 as Trumph is still in refit. But yes, planned to be at 7 by 2026.
Ta.. For the info:
We should get Cammel Laird into building SSK’s fast.
Or Plymouth. Armstrongs had such a hold and monopoly on warship production in 1900, the Admiralty started building battleships themselves and they built Dreadnought in 12 months in Portsmouth.
+1 to all questions being a No sadly.
This is typical under investing in production facilities by BAE. Help us if we should ever get involved in a WAR and we needed to ramp up production! BAE would be building things in wooden sheds. They shut Portsmouth shipyard. I have such doubts about BAE’s commitment.
I was reading the other day that the Aussies re looking at a Nuclear version of the Collins…
The Astute may be too big for them.. Will try and re-find the article and link it…
Check the date, think it might have been an April Fool
It was! clarified later in the day on navalnews.com that it was an April Fool
Russians are known to have an extra undersea boat in the black sea fully armed with 16 misille s must be in response to the extra threat I suspect.
Is she along as a distraction a la last time when we were dancing with multiple Russian naval platforms? Could become quite heated.
Spanish protested to US ambassador that a USN submarine was in Gibraltar and not Spanish base.
Linky?
I think it was posted on here in the last week or so.
I had thought the Spanish protests were going to be about the nuclear issue, turns out it’s not, it’s the fact it’s Gibraltar!
What’s the point. U.K. isn’t giving Gibraltar to Spain. Just a waste of time and money. There’s probably a whole team employed just to complain about Gibraltar.
Funny Spain hadn’t led by example of giving back its oversea territories.
I’ve found a good way to piss of any Spanish tools I come across. Just call Spain North Gibraltar. They love it. 😉
It was nuclear safety they also complained about, but didn’t explain how that wouldn’t be an issue if USS Georgia docked at their base of course
They need to be aware of the newly converted Russian submarine the “Moskva” in the Black sea, who has “heroically converted itself into the newest Russkie Navy Submarine, bravely taking this heroic struggle for the motherland to rid the seabed of evil Azov and other Ukraninian Nazis”……..
To be fair, the front fell off… 😂😂
(in before the internet comes to say nO iT dIdNt!)
Nothing Russia has is Awesome, just useless.
You’re wrong. The Moskva is truly an awesome submarine. Plus, it’s the only part of the Russian military that has successfully completed its mission. It was told to fuck itself.. and it did. Awesome machine.
This photo is of a Unit of Zulu Game guards in the old Natal Parks Board. Brave and efficient men organised on quasi military lines under whose protection virtually no Rhino were poached
Are you suggesting the could give the Russians lessons?
Absolutely David. Whatever one feels about the British Empire, we were superb administrators and organisers. Units such as the Kings African Rifles, the BSAP and indeed the Natal Parks Board defined the meaning of excellence and could sure give those Ruskies a run for their money!!
I had the privilege to work with men such as these on a game reserve project and as a Parks Board Honorary Officer and you could find no better on the planet.
Sabre rattling! At just the right moment, too.
I see the US military have just picked Sig for their new rifle & machinegun in the new brass/steel 6.8×51 80000psi cartridge.
in these times of global unrest, i think, if finland and sweden join the alliance, then,i believe the alliance would be well advised to look at expanding NATO with a iew to a wider geographic makup. bringing countries such as cyprus and malta would provide a more balanced coverage on a wider scope. gibraltar too, due to its strategic location should not be ignored, as it has been. i think the permanent basing of a couple of t23’s and hopefully a type 45 or arleigh burke would be a good starting point. also a squadron of f 35’s and a proper garrison i’ve recently been to gib, and the difference made to the rock by continued few visits from western navys has hit the economy hard. hospitality in particar has been decimated. which is why, if you’re an old sailor like me. most of the old regular watering holes are now long gone including everything in irishtown, and on main street. its also become quite ambivelous to british tourism. ITS A REASSURING THING TO KNOW THAT IF PUSH CAME TO SHOVE nato CAN IELD FULL CARRIER BATTLE GROUPS FROM THE U.S(UP TO 10), TWO FROM BRITAIN, ONE FROM FRANCE AND TWO SMALLER GROUPS WITH LIGHT CARRIERS FROM SPAIN AND ITALY.A STRONG PRESENCE ON GIBRALTAR AND CYPRUS AND MALTA,would give full mediterranean dominance. turkey and greece can lend weight as well, egypt is a consideration strategically, the need to sew up the suez canal zone, egypt has two mistral’s which, if re configured to carry a few f 35’swould provide a another very light group, all inall the big russian ‘military which will not recover from its bloody nose the ukrainians have given it,it is no longer the prospect that it was. as it stands NATO would eat the russian forces so,gun up gib. move back to malta, big up cyprus get the arab navys on board and russia will be toast.