HMS Dragon, a Type 45 Destroyer, is taking part in a two-week exercise with the French Navy.

Exercise POLARIS 21 is a huge workout for the French Navy in every aspect of combat at sea: carrier operations, anti-submarine warfare, mine clearance, amphibious landings, as well as cyber threats and the latest drone tech. According to a Royal Navy news release:

“The Marine Nationale is keen to test its ability to ‘plug and fight’ with its allies. So while France provides the bulk of participants in two tasks, headed by her flagship aircraft carrier FS Charles de Gaulle, Spain, Italy, Greece, the USA have all thrown their hats in the ring with the Royal Navy to get the most out of the exercise.

In all, more than 6,000 personnel, two dozen ships, one nuclear submarine, Navy Rafale jets, French land and air forces are involved in Polaris, which is split between the Atlantic and Mediterranean.”

It is understood that the international force will spend the first week ‘warming up’: getting to know each other and their methods of operating, before Polaris shifts gear into a more demanding test of all participants, focused on the Charles de Gaulle battle group.

You can read more about this from the Royal Navy here.

 

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Delabatte
Delabatte
8 days ago

The battle plan sounds impressive.. red forces are to be taken seriously

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PRJ
PRJ
5 days ago
Reply to  Delabatte

Dragon’s incapable of sinking anything, and once it’s 48 missiles are used up (assuming it has a full magazine) it’s there to be sunk. Good to see CAMM being augmented into Darings in next 7 years, but the RN’s neglect of ASuW capabilities is short sighted and any foe can easily work around.

rob
rob
8 days ago

Who will take the surrender for the British side? Sorry…cheap shot but couldn’t resist…🤣

Mr Bell
Mr Bell
8 days ago

I can see rhe headline now. Entire French Navy turns tail and surrenders. To german sailors on a rowing boat.
Only joking.
Impressive exercise. I like the fact the blue forces composed around carrier CDG are attacking red forces (the bad guys) composed around LPHD guarded by HMS Dragon. I hope Dragon obliterates the blue side and shows what a type 45 can do.

Delabatte
Delabatte
8 days ago
Reply to  Mr Bell

I guess we will never have any result, but I’m pretty sure rafale pilote will have hard time to bypass dragon and horizon shield.. such exercise are very valuable in the current international context..

Mr Bell
Mr Bell
8 days ago

Would love a red on blue exercise of RN QE CSG vs French Navy CSG. We will bring 2 astutes, 2 type 45s, 3 type 23s. Vs similar French force. Who would win? My money would be on RN and superior attacking ability of F35Bs + Astutes running riot.

Sceptical Richard
Sceptical Richard
8 days ago
Reply to  Mr Bell

Fortunately it’ll never come to pass. Instead we are concentrating on honing our mutual skills to take on the real baddies over in Ivanland. Let’s hope that is never necessary either but as General Carter said, we should be ready for it.

Jay R
Jay R
8 days ago

War with russia is futile. The UKs military would be wiped out within 48hrs of russian airstrikes. Nato would have a seriously hars time locating anything. They practice dispersal. The uk does not.

Spyinthesky
Spyinthesky
8 days ago
Reply to  Jay R

Nice to hear a bit of optimism.

Graham Moore
Graham Moore
8 days ago
Reply to  Jay R

Please explain Jay. The UK would of course only fight Russia with the whole of NATO. How would Russian airstrikes wipe out all of our armed forces in 48hrs? Do we not have capable air defence? Are our forces not widely dispersed – as a single-service example – the British army has dozens of bases/garrisons/equipment sites scattered far and wide – from Suffield (Canada) to Cyprus to Inverness to Aldershot, Colchester, Warminster, Estonia etc.

Mr Bell
Mr Bell
7 days ago
Reply to  Jay R

Maybe. I wouldnt over estimate Russias abilities or under estimate ours. Lets just hope we never have to fight a war against each other.

eclipse
eclipse
6 days ago
Reply to  Jay R

Quite a nonsensical argument; rather, I would say Russia would fail to defeat the UK in a war or even reach it. We have capable air defence in the form of our Type 45 destroyers, all our frigates being fitted with Sea Ceptor, and CAMM being integrated into the army. Russian hypersonic missiles are not reliable and low in number, for the moment. These would deteriorate the long range cruise missile/non-nuclear ballistic missile threat sufficiently to allow us to operate without heavy casualties, certainly far beyond the wiping out that you speak of. The Russian navy is, save for the… Read more »

PRJ
PRJ
5 days ago
Reply to  eclipse

If RU wanted to it could defeat the UK within a day. 3 strikes on the officers mess at Brize, Con and Lossie would remove our refuelling and AD capability.
The UK has no IADS, and so Faslane and it’s minehunters (and every other base) would be vulnerable to air. Remove them and RU can mine the Clyde. Game over. I’d give the UK no more than 1 week at best, 1 day at worst.

PRJ
PRJ
5 days ago
Reply to  Mr Bell

With limited surface fleet anti ship capability my money would sadly be on French Navy at the moment. Dragon is incapable of sinking anything

Andrew D
Andrew D
8 days ago

Any Rafales get past HMS Dragon’s missiles ,Chuck fish at them 😀🐟

James
James
8 days ago

The French horizon destroyer and the Italian destroyer look very similar to the type 45s as they come from same design background. France is not an ally though and I can’t imagine France going to war over Britannia having a war with Russia or China

Mr Bell
Mr Bell
7 days ago
Reply to  James

Well that is the elephant in the room. Would France and Germany militarily support Poland, Ukraine or the Baltic states if they were attacked? I think if whole of NATO was committed too they would reluctantly do so. If however there is any split in coherence between the NATO states you can bet France and Germany will sit on the side lines. Dont trust them to do the right thing.

pierre varjabedian
pierre varjabedian
2 days ago
Reply to  James

Funny that you obviously are influenced in your judgment by events that occurred between UK and France. However France and UK are the closest ally in Europe in term of defense. France think that Russia is not the threat that UK believe it is. And in fact theirs a lot of paranoia in the Russian side and in the western side as well. That’s why France thinks it is better to talk with Russia but if you follow military actuality you will see that France is sending ships, planes to spy on Russia. And in Mali France is trying to… Read more »