HMS Forth, a Batch 2 River class patrol vessel, set sail on Friday morning for the Falkland Islands to relieve HMS Clyde, a Batch 1 River class patrol vessel.

The Royal Navy say that it will be a number of years before the vessel herself returns, while her crews will rotate between the UK and South Atlantic.

The Batch 2 ships are fundamentally different in appearance and capabilities from the preceding Batch 1. Notable differences include the longer 90.5 metres long hull, a higher top speed of 24 knots, a Merlin-capable flight deck, a greater displacement of around 2,000 tonnes and greatly expanded capacity for accommodating personnel.

The Batch 2 ships therefore arguably represent a distinctly separate class to the preceding Batch 1 in everything but name.

Forth was commissioned into the Royal Navy in April 2018, following a ceremony at Portsmouth. However in June 2018 it was announced Forth would be entering dry dock for major rectification work likely to take more than three months. The Royal Navy reactivated HMS Tyne to cover planned patrols by Forth, with BAE Systems covering the additional costs.

Anderson Smith, BAE Commercial Director – Naval Ships, said at the time:

“There were a lot of minor defects and we hold our hands up to that the OPV programme was about the regeneration of shipbuilding capability on the Clyde In due course we can look back at it the positives, although it doesn’t feel like it at the minute if I’m looking at it from either a customer or a sales perspective, it found we had some shortfalls in some of our processes. We have now fixed them.”

The vessel is now fully capable of undertaking this deployment.

HMS Forth also recently monitored the Russian warship ‘Vasily Bykov’ through the English Channel and Dover Strait.

We also reported last year that Brazil is to take over HMS Clyde when the Offshore Patrol Vessel leaves Royal Navy service.

Local media have since reported that Rear Admiral Amaury Calheiros Boite confirmed that the Brazilian Navy has been in talks with the Royal Navy and BAE Systems to take over the lease of HMS Clyde when it expires at the end of 2019.

HMS Clyde is part of the Royal Navy’s Fishery Protection Squadron. The Offshore Patrol Vessel was designed and built by BAE Systems and is leased and operated by the Royal Navy, while the company provides maintenance and logistical support to the vessel.

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Airborne

“Thank you for the support of everyone who made this happen, supabond, gorilla glue and bostick, many thanks” ………….sorry couldn’t resist!

Cam
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Cam

Lol, HMS Forth will forever be known for glued bolts and as a botched job ship Sadly

Herodotus
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HMS Glue-stick? Re Bostick…I have been trying to find Black Bostick in a tube…one of the best under-water sealants. Anybody seen it on sale?

john
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john

B&Q emergency roof repair.

Airborne
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Airborne

At least the BDR teams have a head start!

Andy P
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Andy P

If Harry black maskers can’t fix it you need to get yourself down to stores for a new ‘whateveritis’.

Herodotus
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Great stuff Duct Tape….but it doesn’t work at 10 atmospheres…mind you, neither do I!

Paul T
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Paul T

Is there no chance of HMS Clyde being kept in service,or do the B2’s cover any need for an extra Ship ?.

geoff
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geoff

Although it is true that the Batch 2’s h thet ave a number of upgrades it must be remembered the Clyde was a one off from the Batch 1’s already incorporating some of the upgrades in the Batch 2’s i.e. extended deck to accommodate Helicopters, larger ship than her sisters(2000 tons) and a 30mm Oerlikon as opposed to the 20mm fitted to the first three Batch 1’s

geoff
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geoff

Excuse spellos-what happened to the Edit button?

Herodotus
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Time to mount a remain campaign for the ‘Edit’ button!

Cam
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Cam

Here here

Airborne
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Airborne

But the Lib Dems may want to remove the edit button option altogether! 👍

Herodotus
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Errr…no! They would like to ‘Edit’ big time!

Daniele Mandelli
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Daniele Mandelli

Wouldn’t it have been better to keep Clyde in its role and use the B2s elsewhere? Is Clyde that knackered?

A precious asset has been tied down when it could be used elsewhere.

Paul T
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Paul T

From what I have read its at the end (or beginning) of its maintenance cycle – plus being leased it basically means the costs of a planned overhaul and its future fate lies with the leasers.The RN id guess is in an ideal situation as its a take it or leave it scenario,if it wants to extend the lease id guess it can,if not it walks away and Clyde is moved on to Brasil or whoever.

Daniele Mandelli
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Daniele Mandelli

Thanks Paul.

I was hoping / hope / that the B2’s are used more widely, freeing up other ships.

Lusty
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Lusty

It’s likely that she is in a fairly well maintained state, given that she is built for and operated in an extreme environment. Like the other Rivers, she achieves a fantastic amount of ‘at sea’ time when compared to other assets. I think it more boils down to a couple of factors. Clyde is a unique ship – she’s not a batch 1 or a batch 2. We should seek to move away from individual, novel vessels. Secondly, she is built for specifically that environment/role and while she could be operated in UK waters, some might argue it as being… Read more »

Daniele Mandelli
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Daniele Mandelli

Thanks as always Lusty.

Agree. I would like the B2’s used far and wide and even forward based.

Cam
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Cam

I bet HMS Clyde will sail with the Brazilian Navy for decades more. I don’t get why the RN sells off ships that have lots of life left, Ok but I do know RN ships are worked harder than most nations ships but still couldn’t we keep more Royal Navy and especially RFA ships active that otherwise are being sold off!??

Paul T
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Paul T

Cam – In this case the RN cannot sell something that it doesn’t actually own.

Daniele Mandelli
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Daniele Mandelli

I believe the RN and wider armed forces have higher standards than many Cam. What is worn out for us is an asset for others. Like the 22’s with Romania and 23’s with Chile, though they are newer. And with our many ultra expensive systems to pay for they want to avoid high maintenance costs keeping worn out assets. Just my opinion and I may be wide of the mark. But that is for wider numbers of assets, I was only considering the case of Clyde and “wasting” a new ship for that role that I would like to see… Read more »

Steve Taylor
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Steve Taylor

Ut tua seras manere agglutinata!

Cam
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Cam

Erm?

Steve Taylor
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Steve Taylor

It’s Latin. May you bolts stay glued.

Herodotus
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Are you sure that isn’t ‘may you nuts turn to stone’?

Gunbuster
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Gunbuster

I have it on good authority that HMS Clyde is not going to Brazil.
Watch this space…

Steve Taylor
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Steve Taylor

I have ‘heard’ that too.

Steve Salt
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Steve Salt

If Clyde is dispensed with will the SNP see it as betrayal 😀