British aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth is currently preparing to sail to the United States where the first F-35 jets will touch down on her deck in a couple of months.
So after stretching our sea legs we have hit dry land with our legs running, preparing for #westlant18 & #firstdecklanding
It’s going to be hard work, but all worth it to see those #f35 wheels touch down safely on our flight deck for the first time! pic.twitter.com/eG50XIuYYU
— HMS Queen Elizabeth (@HMSQnlz) June 25, 2018
Members of Flying Control and flight deck handlers from HMS Queen Elizabeth recently crossed the Atlantic to see live F-35B jets in action.
Their carrier is due to conduct flying trials with the state-of-the-art aircraft in the late summer/early autumn off the eastern seaboard of the USA. Preparations for that moment – nearly a decade after a Royal Navy warship last hosted a fast jet – have been taking place for months, even years, on both sides of the ocean say the Royal Navy.
About 20 members of the HMS Queen Elizabeth team witnessed F-35B test aircraft BF-02 and BF-04 taxi, perform two vertical landings apiece, and conduct a couple short takeoffs. The ground reverberated as each aircraft approached the tarmac for its vertical landings led by the F-35 Pax River Integrated Test Force team, hovering for several seconds prior to descending.
The carrier’s Wings – Commander Air Cdr James Blackmore – said the few days at Pax proved invaluable for many of his team.
“It’s the first time they’ve ever seen the jet or been up and close to it as it’s performing its flight manoeuvres, so they got to feel the environment of what it’s like, the sort of noise, the heat, the sound and the pressure of the aircraft, so that when it comes to deck for the first time, it’s not a surprise.”
He flew the last Harrier to take off from HMS Ark Royal at the end of 2010 before both the jump jet and carrier passed into history. Blackmore called the F-35B “a step change for the UK in how we’re going to conduct business” adding:
“The fact that’s it’s F-35 is pivotal, because you’re in the fifth-generation game now with aircraft, which brings stealth, sensor fusion, advanced weapons and the ability to project aviation and power ashore at your choosing,” he said.
We recently reported that the first jets that will perform F-35 trials on-board HMS Queen Elizabeth will be mostly American owned aircraft but flown by British pilots.
The aircraft that will be landing on the supercarrier will belong to the Joint Operational Test team. The team’s mission is to build confidence in the aircraft towards helping clear the F-35 to make the legally mandated advance from Low Rate Initial Production to Full Rate Production. The RAF’s No 17 (Reserve) Test and Evaluation Squadron comprises ten percent of the test program in the JOTT we understand.
The reason that most if not all of the aircraft to touch down will be American isn’t some scandalous outrage (just watch how some papers report this, though) but rather most of the F-35Bs in Joint Operational Test team are American.
After speaking to one of the pilots in the test programme, we understand that the UK only has three (BK1, 2 & 4) test jets that are “orange wired” to take data for post-flight analysis, the rest being operational aircraft. Therefore, it is highly likely that the jets to go on HMS Queen Elizabeth later this year will be “mostly, if not entirely, American but flown by UK pilots”.
We were told by one of the UK pilots currently flying the jet that the reason for this is that the JOT team dictate the availability of test jets out of a pool. Our contact said:
“It would be nothing more than symbolic to make UK jets available for the trials and that comes at a significant effort since all of them are based at Edwards AFB in California, not on the East Coast where the ship trial is due to take place.
Therefore, the most obvious and cheaper choice is to use the F-35B test jets based at Pax River, which are US ones. British test pilots like Andy Edgell, Nath Gray, will obviously fly them but there’ll be US pilots too because that’s how Joint Test works.”
A Ministry of Defence (MoD) spokesman confirmed:
“As the US’s biggest partner in the F-35 programme, we jointly own test jets which are on track to fly off the deck of our new aircraft carrier later this year.
We will continue to work with our American allies on these trials, and plan for the first momentous landing on HMS Queen Elizabeth to be a British pilot.”
Just wait for this perfectly reasonable bit of trivia to become the subject of the next overblown and sensationalised headlines regarding the new aircraft carriers.
Imagine Churchill putting up with this palava just land the bloody thing.
Aircraft carriers in Churchills time had to go though sea and flying trials too, like every aircraft carier ever. Besides even Churchill would want things done properly and safely since its not like a crashed Seafire would leave a hole in the defence budget compared to the one an F 35 would leave.
Also, the number of systems and complexity of today’s carriers is light years away from those of Churchill’s time requiring much longer trial times especially for first of class. Plus, were we in a time of war, I am pretty sure we would cut a few corners to get the carriers into service more quickly but we are not at war, or maybe only in a cold one again, so cutting corners in today’s environment seems like a pretty bad idea to me.
What’s the difference between landing a helicopter on a flight deck and a V/stol aircraft apart from one costing ten times as much as the other.
Quite a bit, I would say…..
i wish they’d clarify how many f35b’s we actually have, including the ones at fort worth, kept there for test flying and training.
Just guessing but size and shape of safety clearance zones? Real life demonstration that nothing in the heat and heat wash zones at each designated landing spot will be damaged by the much more intense heat of a landing? Taxiing and parking procedures? Maybe even short rolling landings or are they skipping that for now? And of course what comes down is going to go back up so there’s the takeoff and that’s a whole different ballgame.
Sorry. Bloody comments system. This was supposed to be in reply to Marc’s comment above.
(Chris H) I understand we have 15 F-35s delivered with 3 staying as test and development aircraft in the USA. The rest will, or have, come to RAF Marham in blocks of 4
although the F-35 has been getting a lot of bad press, it is still an amazing piece of kit.
So it bleeding well should be bearing in mind the cost of it.
Monumental PR cock up by MoD if it is a US aircraft to land first.
What a signal to send to the public.
They do not care about technicalities. They want to see a Brit plane land on this.
If we have a UK “orange wired” aircraft why not use one? After, once the photos are taken and the public move on to something else use Donald bloody Duck for all I care.
Its all very well saying its only symbolic and the papers will have a field day. But if you let them then yes they will.
Is it really that hard to fly 1 UK plane over from Edwards to land first?
Or just put UK roundals on!
It does seem rather tone deaf of them.
Their argument of cost for not moving even just one plane from the west coast is ridiculous. It’s a plane it flies and it would only have to be their a day or two just long enough to land and for some pictures to be taken and the media to go home. Just call it a aircraft ferrying exercise or some other drivel to rationalize it to treasurey.
That end part of this article is just a rehash of an article this site ran a month or so back. It doesn’t say (unless I missed it) that the first aircraft to land will not be British. Admittedly it doesn’t say that it will be either, it just says that the aircraft used over the entire period of these trials will be “mostly American owned aircraft but flown by British pilots”. I would be quite surprised if they didn’t make sure that one of the UK-owned orange-wired aircraft was prepared in advance and then kept aside at readiness to ensure that it could be used for the very first touchdown. After that, do we really care?
If people were to insist on it being an all-UK operation then they would have to accept the consequences which I suspect would be needing longer to complete this stage of the trials and hence delaying the QE in-service date because the 3 UK orange-wired aircraft on their own probably wouldn’t be able to be turned around fast enough to maintain the tempo that is planned for this stage of the trials.
Agree Julian. First aircraft simply for the PR for the masses. After that indeed it is not important.
(Chris H) I am reminded of this quote by Terry Goodkind regarding Public Affairs:
“Reality is irrelevant; Perception is everything.”
If it is too costly to fly an RAF / FAA F-35 from California to the East Coast then why did we fly 4 across the Atlantic and not wait to bring all of the aircraft back in QE? Answer – Images for public perception
therefore the same reasoning applies to the flight trials. And if it really is all about cost I am sure we could lease a USMC aircraft for a week and stick some roundels on it given our pilots fly them all the time anyway. But we just know the MoD will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
#FacePalm
i don’t see why this has to take place over the Atlantic surely our air and sea is good enough for any operational training.
Our test F-35’s are part of the testing “pool” in which pilots from US and UK (maybe others?) use all jets, not just their badged ones. I don’t claim to be an expert here but I would imagine more than 4 air-frames will be required to do the actual testing with QE and so it’s just easier for her to go over there (and do work ups on the way for other systems, provide a nice shore leave for her crew) than fly aircraft over here and back again (12 refuels or something I believe it was per aircraft for our first 4 one way?).
Who the hell cares.
Good if the first pilot’s a Brit….but not essential.
Please get over the whining, and let Big Lizzie do her job.
Well said sir. I’d be more concerned if the pilot wasn’t british tbh. Its the same plane anyway!
When the first RAF/RN F35 lands they should invite all those blabbing about ‘no aircraft’ to see it.
More pressing IMO…
https://news.usni.org/2018/06/25/failure-provide-u-k-royal-navy-escorts-new-carriers-potentially-dangerous-warn-lawmakers
Cheers
Very good article cheers Helions.